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Author Topic: AvPGalaxy Alien Isolation Podcast Released  (Read 11973 times)

Seegson
Oct 25, 2014, 11:55:13 PM
Reply #30 on: Oct 25, 2014, 11:55:13 PM
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Therefore - not bullet proof.

The Alien in AI is not bullet proof. You can see the wounds every time you fire at him...but, he doesnt care much about it. Try to fire an elephant with a hand gun from 10 meters (you are gonna have a bad day) and he isnt bullet proof.
Call it, resistance, regeneration, whatever


cyt0sk3l3t0n
Oct 27, 2014, 03:08:05 AM
Reply #31 on: Oct 27, 2014, 03:08:05 AM
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No, none of it is.  It was never supposed to be.
I said they should have been, not that they were supposed to be.
As shown in James Cameron's portrayal, a big problem with having multiple Aliens is that you have to dumb them down, and that does injustice to the creature's amazing design. If they all had the same hunting skills as the first Alien (which is basically to use stealth and get right in your prey's face so when they see you they have no time to react) and exhibited good team work, there'd be no survivors.
In conclusion, it's not the lack of them being bulletproof that bothers me, but their behavior.
But the rhetorical question still remains: If I can shoot the Alien for infinity with a shotgun in A:I and it not die, why would that suddenly not be the case in the sequel?


SM
Oct 27, 2014, 03:57:10 AM
Reply #32 on: Oct 27, 2014, 03:57:10 AM
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If they all had the same hunting skills as the first Alien (which is basically to use stealth and get right in your prey's face so when they see you they have no time to react) and exhibited good team work, there'd be no survivors.

You mean how they got right up in the marines faces in the hive and then again by attacking through the roof and floor from multiple directions in Ops?

Any anyway Ripley survived the first film so why shouldn't a few survive the second?


Jango1201
Oct 27, 2014, 05:53:42 AM
Reply #33 on: Oct 27, 2014, 05:53:42 AM
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In A:I, you weren't supposed to have time to let off more then a few rounds into the creature. After every death, you start before the last encounter. Who's to say after your killed, the alien doesn't eventually die from the wounds?


Valaquen
Oct 27, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
Reply #34 on: Oct 27, 2014, 12:28:26 PM
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If they all had the same hunting skills as the first Alien (which is basically to use stealth and get right in your prey's face so when they see you they have no time to react) and exhibited good team work, there'd be no survivors.

You mean how they got right up in the marines faces in the hive and then again by attacking through the roof and floor from multiple directions in Ops?

And if it weren't for Ripley driving into the hive with the APC then the Marines would have been massacred in there.


cyt0sk3l3t0n
Oct 28, 2014, 11:32:27 PM
Reply #35 on: Oct 28, 2014, 11:32:27 PM
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If they all had the same hunting skills as the first Alien (which is basically to use stealth and get right in your prey's face so when they see you they have no time to react) and exhibited good team work, there'd be no survivors.

You mean how they got right up in the marines faces in the hive and then again by attacking through the roof and floor from multiple directions in Ops?

Any anyway Ripley survived the first film so why shouldn't a few survive the second?
Standing 10+ feet away =/= getting right in someone's face (referring to the scene in Ops). The Aliens drop from the ceiling at a pretty fair distance. They're far enough for no acid blood to get on the Marines, unlike in the scene where Hicks and Ripley get in the elevator (which is as close as the first Alien got to its victims). Multiple directions? Eh, not really. Pretty much the direction the Marines were facing. The only exception to that is the floor attack which should have happened much sooner if the Aliens showed any truly threatening strategy. A few Aliens were already killed from the first encounter. They should have learned from that and communicated with each other to devise more successful strategy against their opponent. That's how a human would do it, so the Alien should too.

Because that was just one Alien... Aliens was hundreds. So they had to dumb it down to properly express the script's story.

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SM
Oct 29, 2014, 01:10:20 AM
Reply #36 on: Oct 29, 2014, 01:10:20 AM
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The Aliens drop from the ceiling at a pretty fair distance.

Because Hicks rumbled them.

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Multiple directions? Eh, not really.

Yeah really.

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So they had to dumb it down to properly express the script's story.

How many humans ultimately survived?


cyt0sk3l3t0n
Oct 29, 2014, 07:07:17 AM
Reply #37 on: Oct 29, 2014, 07:07:17 AM
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"Because Hicks rumbled them."
Nope. Because plot.

"Yeah really."
Ok. In front of them and that one in the floor. Please tell me when some came in through the ceiling, literally falling on top of and pinning the Marines down. Or when they were waiting right on the other side of the Ops exit door. Because I don't quite recall them attacking from either of those angles.

Face it - Cameron turned the Alien into a disposable insect. I hold no grudge against the man, I simply wish he hadn't gone that route with the Alien creature.


Huol
Oct 29, 2014, 07:11:36 AM
Reply #38 on: Oct 29, 2014, 07:11:36 AM
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Everyone always forgets the sneaky bugger that got onboard the dropship.


cyt0sk3l3t0n
Oct 29, 2014, 04:32:29 PM
Reply #39 on: Oct 29, 2014, 04:32:29 PM
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Everyone always forgets the sneaky bugger that got onboard the dropship.
The one where those two pilots are killed? No, I didn't forget about it. That's one of the few scenes I liked the Alien in. You never saw it until it was too late - I liked that.


SM
Oct 29, 2014, 11:40:43 PM
Reply #40 on: Oct 29, 2014, 11:40:43 PM
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"Because Hicks rumbled them."
Nope. Because plot.

Profound.

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"Yeah really."
Ok. In front of them and that one in the floor. Please tell me when some came in through the ceiling, literally falling on top of and pinning the Marines down. Or when they were waiting right on the other side of the Ops exit door. Because I don't quite recall them attacking from either of those angles.

Convenient.


ClockworkHorror
Nov 08, 2014, 04:24:53 AM
Reply #41 on: Nov 08, 2014, 04:24:53 AM
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Great podcast guys! It's one of those conversations I wish I was in on. I kept thinking 'Ooh Ooh! What about this other cool thing, too!'

I got the platinum trophy tonight (first game I've wsnted to 100% since Dead Space), and when watching the credits I saw Mac MacDonald did voice work in it.:) Another Aliens Alumni!


Corporal Hicks
Nov 08, 2014, 11:50:25 AM
Reply #42 on: Nov 08, 2014, 11:50:25 AM
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Would never have even recognized the name! Nice find.  :)

Thanks for the kind words. :)


 

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