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Author Topic: Does it bother you the Alien leaves corpses everyw...  (Read 6014 times)

Valaquen
Sep 02, 2014, 11:20:53 AM
Reply #30 on: Sep 02, 2014, 11:20:53 AM
Most parasites are wasteful

The Alien isn't really a parasite, though. It's more akin to a parasitoid or protolean being ("those that begin the growing phase of their lives as parasites, and in particular, typically as internal parasites. As a rule they end that phase of their lives parasitoidally by killing or consuming the host, and then they emerge as free-living adults.")


Xenoscream
Sep 03, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
Reply #31 on: Sep 03, 2014, 10:50:52 AM
I was also gonna say, what if the egg is actually the final stage of the cycle, not the adult Alien? The adult could just be a means to leave behind some eggs.

I like this idea, perhaps the eggs in the derelict were harvested from a world / city which had already been wiped out.


SM
Sep 03, 2014, 11:57:58 PM
Reply #32 on: Sep 03, 2014, 11:57:58 PM
Wouldn't the very nature of a 'cycle' preclude a 'final stage'?


predxeno
Sep 07, 2014, 07:32:04 AM
Reply #33 on: Sep 07, 2014, 07:32:04 AM
Speaking of queens vs. eggmorphing , I wonder if there's going to be an explanation why this specific alien (along with Kane's Son) never turned into Queens themselves.  My personal explanation is that both are male breeds of the Alien and therefore have to rely on eggmorphing to produce females to turn into queens or queen eggs to just skip the whole female hormone storm process.


PsyKore
Sep 07, 2014, 09:57:14 AM
Reply #34 on: Sep 07, 2014, 09:57:14 AM
Doesn't it come from the EU where they turn into Queens? I know the AvP games (2010 in particular) show this. But going by Alien 3, a Queen has to be laid by a facehugger and gestated the same way a regular chestburster does. So it fits that a regular Alien could create eggs in order to spawn a Queen.


Space7Horror
Sep 07, 2014, 01:05:56 PM
Reply #35 on: Sep 07, 2014, 01:05:56 PM
Cameron said that one of the first Aliens to emerge in Hadley's Hope grew to become a queen.  I say that since there was more than one Alien present at the moment that the oldest one was able to morph into a queen.  The theory I'm thinking of is that if there is a single Alien it can't become a queen without another Alien present as it would be left too vulnerable during its transformation, so the Alien will resort to eggmorphing in order to produce an egg that will most likely carry a queen facehugger or a regular one depending on the Alien who eggmorphed the person. So in order for a queen to come about there needs to be more than one Alien present at a time.


The Eighth Passenger
Sep 07, 2014, 02:01:08 PM
Reply #36 on: Sep 07, 2014, 02:01:08 PM
The new forthcoming canon bible from Fox, the "Weyland Yutani Report" (aka the SMXLTM) seems to confirm the possibility that a drone or worker could transform into an egg producer. Whether "egg producer" literally means a Queen or simply that they could gain the ability to "egg morph" I do not know.



Nazrel
Sep 20, 2014, 11:09:45 PM
Reply #37 on: Sep 20, 2014, 11:09:45 PM
I hope i can find hires scans of that book..

Anyways. I never cared fro the idea of them being weapons, i like the idea that they are natural creatures. never cared for the egg-morphing idea much either.


genozide
Sep 21, 2014, 12:12:08 PM
Reply #38 on: Sep 21, 2014, 12:12:08 PM
I think bodies here and there would bother the species of the corpses and that's the point by the alien. Does it have one or not? Who can tell?
It might be striving to survive either on the station or through a possible escape. Maybe it's reacting tactically towards what the humans are thinking? Maybe it seeks out alternatives with what it does to implement the most chaos? "Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality."
I don't personally care much about the eggmorphing idea either. The onetime queen facehugger egg by drone idea seems legit but it would also need the best opportunity for the alien and it's like ripley, i suppose, figuring out what to do at the time of events.
The mystery of not knowing how they do certain things is one of the things that makes them special as an alien being. Persistent damage and bodies is what i love seeing in games. The idea of corpses fading away or environment healing itself has always bothered me in many games. If they're on your path showing pain, despair and fear or getting snatched last minute or in some other way surprising you it adds to the atmosphere of the game story.
I wonder if some of the characters you get to know more and relate to will die in the most horrible way?

« Last Edit: Sep 21, 2014, 12:21:38 PM by genozide »

Predatorium
Sep 21, 2014, 02:04:30 PM
Reply #39 on: Sep 21, 2014, 02:04:30 PM
Comon cut the alien some slack, he's working overtime to kill all the people on the station. There must be hundreds or thousands.


SizzyBubbles
Oct 02, 2014, 08:51:59 PM
Reply #40 on: Oct 02, 2014, 08:51:59 PM
He leaves them there as a warning to all the other humans X)


rabidninja64
Oct 05, 2014, 09:49:06 AM
Reply #41 on: Oct 05, 2014, 09:49:06 AM
Before i go off topic, ill chip in my 2 cents.

In essence, the xeno wouldnt particularly drag people off to god-knows where for no random reason. Naturally, if the directors cut had been canon, then it'd make more sense because of them being the catalyst for the egg transformation process. since it was cut, my only explanation is that it's acting in a way a lone, vunerable but also deadly creature would. violently. Regardless, they probably posed a threat to the xeno, culminating in a on-the-spot impalement or dance in the dark.  ;D

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

And here's my off topic piece:
Has anyone else noticed the purina logo on all the doors?
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121221171111/logopedia/images/a/a9/Purina.png
even in the films! SPACE ALIEN CHOW!!!
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ky4eysgePS1qb78wao1_500.png


SM
Oct 05, 2014, 10:20:24 AM
Reply #42 on: Oct 05, 2014, 10:20:24 AM
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In essence, the xeno wouldnt particularly drag people off to god-knows where for no random reason.

Except Brett, Dallas, Clemens, or Andrews.


HuDaFuK
Oct 05, 2014, 12:23:08 PM
Reply #43 on: Oct 05, 2014, 12:23:08 PM
In essence, the xeno wouldnt particularly drag people off to god-knows where for no random reason. Naturally, if the directors cut had been canon, then it'd make more sense because of them being the catalyst for the egg transformation process.

Even without the DC, the Aliens could well still be cocooning people off-screen. Like SM says, plenty of victims get taken and never reappear.


The Eighth Passenger
Oct 05, 2014, 12:25:06 PM
Reply #44 on: Oct 05, 2014, 12:25:06 PM
And here's my off topic piece:
Has anyone else noticed the purina logo on all the doors?
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121221171111/logopedia/images/a/a9/Purina.png
even in the films! SPACE ALIEN CHOW!!!
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ky4eysgePS1qb78wao1_500.png

It's similar but not the same. The "hazard warning sign" from Alien has four little red squares with rounded corners on the outside and one large square in the middle. The Purina logo is just a red & white checkered background.


Here's the rest of the Nostromo's signage.


 

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