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Author Topic: The E3 2014 Thread - Trailer, Screenshots & Demo F...  (Read 69646 times)

Sadogoat
Jun 13, 2014, 11:33:15 AM
Reply #150 on: Jun 13, 2014, 11:33:15 AM
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do you think this is the ORIGINAL Alien from the movie? The premise says that the blackbox from Nostromo got to Sevastopol, so I'm thinking it might have drifted along with the Alien who was shown to withstand the vacuum, right?

I'm half expecting that myself.

As unlikely as that sounds, I'd have to assume CA are applying artistic liberties with the creature since it has obvious design differences from Giger's original xenomorph (eg. hands and feet).


Salt The Fries
Jun 13, 2014, 11:42:05 AM
Reply #151 on: Jun 13, 2014, 11:42:05 AM
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do you think this is the ORIGINAL Alien from the movie? The premise says that the blackbox from Nostromo got to Sevastopol, so I'm thinking it might have drifted along with the Alien who was shown to withstand the vacuum, right?


I'm half expecting that myself.

As unlikely as that sounds, I'd have to assume CA are applying artistic liberties with the creature since it has obvious design differences from Giger's original xenomorph (eg. hands and feet).

There's been some evidence that their design used to be a facsimile and only changed a bit just recently.

But like I said any liberties they're taking don't concern me, we all know this is as close to release date as it gets, there won't be any U-Turn just like with Colonial Marines, and any fanboy-ish speculation about changing this or that pixel doesn't really interest me.

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WinterActual
Jun 13, 2014, 11:46:53 AM
Reply #152 on: Jun 13, 2014, 11:46:53 AM
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Ok then, I will accept that the xenos are immortal creatures that cannot be harmed unless you have a pulse rifle or smartgun or fire a shotgun in their mouth.... Basically thats your logic.

and has a really small clip size, like 3 or 6 bullets (well, technically it's a revolver by the name, so it should hold 6).

Which means it have big rounds. There are .22 revolvers with drum capable of holding 9 or 12 bullets but if the revolver is using .45 it will probably have just 6 holes. So having 3 or 6 bullets tops, means that revolver packs a punch.

But its not a big deal. I just don't believe that the xenos can not be killed. If its not breaking certain parts of the game making it impossible to beat, somebody will make a mod that enables the killing of the xeno  :laugh:


Salt The Fries
Jun 13, 2014, 11:55:14 AM
Reply #153 on: Jun 13, 2014, 11:55:14 AM
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Ok then, I will accept that the xenos are immortal creatures that cannot be harmed unless you have a pulse rifle or smartgun or fire a shotgun in their mouth.... Basically thats your logic.

and has a really small clip size, like 3 or 6 bullets (well, technically it's a revolver by the name, so it should hold 6).

Which means it have big rounds. There are .22 revolvers with drum capable of holding 9 or 12 bullets but if the revolver is using .45 it will probably have just 6 holes. So having 3 or 6 bullets tops, means that revolver packs a punch.

But its not a big deal. I just don't believe that the xenos can not be killed. If its not breaking certain parts of the game making it impossible to beat, somebody will make a mod that enables the killing of the xeno  :laugh:
The revolver isn't even capable of killing an android, plus do you think a clunky chunky revolver aimed by a person who is not a soldier would stand a chance against relentless and ever agile Xeno?

But its not a big deal. I just don't believe that the xenos can not be killed. If its not breaking certain parts of the game making it impossible to beat, somebody will make a mod that enables the killing of the xeno  :laugh:
Lol, it'd be as easy as:


« Last Edit: Jun 13, 2014, 11:56:47 AM by Salt The Fries »

OpenMaw
Jun 13, 2014, 11:58:21 AM
Reply #154 on: Jun 13, 2014, 11:58:21 AM
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Yes, that was the intention, but why is this convo still going? It's clear from the materials hitherto shown that neither this rudimentary revolver nor flamethrower (which by the way lasts like 3 blasts till it's completely empty) could EVER kill the creature.

I have no issue with them not harming the Alien, or at the very least only discouraging it for awhile. I had the same idea of a flamethrower that just stunned the alien in A:ITV. My issue is more with those who keep saying, as if it were a fact, that the alien had God mode in Ridley's film. O'Bannon wouldn't have festered over finding a means to keep it alive if he intended for it to be unstoppable.


do you think this is the ORIGINAL Alien from the movie? The premise says that the blackbox from Nostromo got to Sevastopol, so I'm thinking it might have drifted along with the Alien who was shown to withstand the vacuum, right?

I actually asked if we had heard anything on this very point. I'm assuming we'll figure that point out by some means within the game itself. It would be a bit silly not to tell us.

It will certainly be interesting to learn just where the beast came from.  :)


Sadogoat
Jun 13, 2014, 12:07:40 PM
Reply #155 on: Jun 13, 2014, 12:07:40 PM
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It will certainly be interesting to learn just where the beast came from.  :)

As long as it's not some ridiculously contrived plot point like Hicks' bizarre survival in A:CM.

My first thoughts when I heard of Alien: Isolation's storyline was "Why the hell do they have tie it to the films by adding Ripley's daughter?". If they'd left Amanda out of the picture and created an entirely new protagonist, they could pretty much come up with any explanation as to why another Alien has come into contact with humankind. Maybe picked it up on a derelict freighter while on a deep-space salvage, for example.


Corporal Hicks
Jun 13, 2014, 12:16:04 PM
Reply #156 on: Jun 13, 2014, 12:16:04 PM
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That seems to be the big mystery though - where the Alien is from. I still think it'll be the original one - even with the design changes. It's not like design changes were ever addressed (other than A3). Don't get me wrong, there's reasons as to why the design is different in some films but aside from A3, it was never addressed on film. Bit of retcon FTW.

As for it having God-mode, I really don't think they're saying it couldn't be killed at all. Just what the Nostromo crew (and you here) have available isn't enough. We never saw the flamethrower used against one of them so we don't really know how it'd effect them and the only time we see pistols do damage is close range (or explosive rounds from the looks of it in AR).



Predatorium
Jun 13, 2014, 01:03:02 PM
Reply #157 on: Jun 13, 2014, 01:03:02 PM
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I'm surprised by how many of you that think this is the same alien that's in the first movie? That's just silly and totally unbelievable. The odds of the alien drifting around in space for 15 years and managing to drift right into the path of humans in space where there is like an infinite amount of directions to go...Comooon.


The Eighth Passenger
Jun 13, 2014, 01:30:11 PM
Reply #158 on: Jun 13, 2014, 01:30:11 PM
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I agree with Predatorium. Even if it could survive in a vacuum for that long it's statistically improbable to ever encounter anything for millenia. It will eventually fall into a star perhaps after a few centuries.

It would be outright silly for CA to try and shoe-horn-in the original alien when they still have a whole shipload full of eggs to get a new Xeno from.

If they found the Nostromo's flight recorder then they will most likely have the co-ordinates where it last set down. I'm sure Seegson would be curious to see what a converted WY M-class starcruiser was doing out in the sticks.


Predatorium
Jun 13, 2014, 01:32:05 PM
Reply #159 on: Jun 13, 2014, 01:32:05 PM
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I agree with Predatorium. Even if it could survive in a vacuum for that long it's statistically improbable to ever encounter anything for millenia. It will eventually fall into a star perhaps after a few centuries.

It would be outright silly for CA to try and shoe-horn-in the original alien when they still have a whole shipload full of eggs to get a new Xeno from.

If they found the Nostromo's flight recorder then they will most likely have the co-ordinates where it last set down. I'm sure Seegson would be curious to see what a converted WY M-class starcruiser was doing out in the sticks.

Exactly!


Xenoscream
Jun 13, 2014, 02:37:59 PM
Reply #160 on: Jun 13, 2014, 02:37:59 PM
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That seems to be the big mystery though - where the Alien is from. I still think it'll be the original one - even with the design changes. It's not like design changes were ever addressed (other than A3). Don't get me wrong, there's reasons as to why the design is different in some films but aside from A3, it was never addressed on film. Bit of retcon FTW.

Whats you reason for thinking it's Kane's son? Just curious.

I think I read somewhere the flight recorder was an electronic transmission and not physical... don't remember where though..


Corporal Hicks
Jun 13, 2014, 03:04:01 PM
Reply #161 on: Jun 13, 2014, 03:04:01 PM
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It's just how eager they are to tie it into Alien that makes me think that. With them finding the black box, I can see them reasoning that the Alien would be nearby and they find it. Just my own thoughts.


The Eighth Passenger
Jun 13, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
Reply #162 on: Jun 13, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
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The alien would have been ejected into a completely different trajectory and velocity though. Bringing back Kane's Son would be as fanwanky as bringing Hicks (not you Corporal) back.


Corporal Hicks
Jun 13, 2014, 03:20:49 PM
Reply #163 on: Jun 13, 2014, 03:20:49 PM
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Don't think it's quite as big a kick in the teeth but I just expect it.


PRI. HUDSON
Jun 13, 2014, 03:21:46 PM
Reply #164 on: Jun 13, 2014, 03:21:46 PM
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do you think this is the ORIGINAL Alien from the movie? The premise says that the blackbox from Nostromo got to Sevastopol, so I'm thinking it might have drifted along with the Alien who was shown to withstand the vacuum, right?

I'm half expecting that myself.

Omg...this may be a spoiler. Because how ELSE did an alien get there? Genius thinking.

Ok then, I will accept that the xenos are immortal creatures that cannot be harmed unless you have a pulse rifle or smartgun or fire a shotgun in their mouth.... Basically thats your logic.

and has a really small clip size, like 3 or 6 bullets (well, technically it's a revolver by the name, so it should hold 6).

Which means it have big rounds. There are .22 revolvers with drum capable of holding 9 or 12 bullets but if the revolver is using .45 it will probably have just 6 holes. So having 3 or 6 bullets tops, means that revolver packs a punch.

But its not a big deal. I just don't believe that the xenos can not be killed. If its not breaking certain parts of the game making it impossible to beat, somebody will make a mod that enables the killing of the xeno  :laugh:

Revolvers don't fire .45, They fire .22, .357, .38, .44 (and I think .50). There are also revolvers now that can fire 8 rounds at .44 if I am correct.

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