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Author Topic: ALIEN: The Weyland-Yutani Report (S.D. Perry, 160 ...  (Read 232715 times)

SM
Sep 09, 2014, 07:32:19 AM
Reply #480 on: Sep 09, 2014, 07:32:19 AM
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I never realised how much I didn't know about the APC layout until John was researching it.  Like how there's a gunners seat behind the driver and the two seats to the right of the door as you enter.  Stuff that's all there in the film that I'd seen a millions time but I'd never really paid close attention to.

Ditto the upside In-tray behind the driver.

I think it was Graham who came up with the idea to store the sentry gun units in the hull behind the seats near the door.

And if you look really closely the video monitors are actual screencaps from the film.



Local Trouble
Sep 09, 2014, 09:11:13 AM
Reply #481 on: Sep 09, 2014, 09:11:13 AM
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Is Internecivus raptus still a thing or has that been retconned as the USM's name for the species?  I see no reason why the two designations can't co-exist, but I'm sure we can find a way to turn it into a debate.

As for those cutaways, Ms. Perry just told us that this book was written a few months after the events of AR.  Does that old USCM hardware still exist?  For that matter, does the USCM still exist?  I'd have thought the USM would have absorbed it long ago.

« Last Edit: Sep 09, 2014, 09:30:39 AM by Local Trouble »

The Eighth Passenger
Sep 09, 2014, 11:45:43 AM
Reply #482 on: Sep 09, 2014, 11:45:43 AM
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Drawing that APC interior must have been a helluva pain-in-the-ass considering that in the film the interior is actually much larger than the exterior and a separate set.

It does look like he shortened the passenger section where the marines sit though.


SM
Sep 09, 2014, 11:52:00 AM
Reply #483 on: Sep 09, 2014, 11:52:00 AM
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Is Internecivus raptus still a thing or has that been retconned as the USM's name for the species?  I see no reason why the two designations can't co-exist, but I'm sure we can find a way to turn it into a debate.

As for those cutaways, Ms. Perry just told us that this book was written a few months after the events of AR.  Does that old USCM hardware still exist?  For that matter, does the USCM still exist?  I'd have thought the USM would have absorbed it long ago.

They have data going back to Prometheus and earlier.  Why wouldn't that have data on USCM hardware?

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Is Internecivus raptus still a thing or has that been retconned as the USM's name for the species?  I see no reason why the two designations can't co-exist, but I'm sure we can find a way to turn it into a debate.

I Raptus was raised, but as Danelle pointed out earlier they liked the XX121 thing.


Kimarhi
Sep 09, 2014, 04:14:20 PM
Reply #484 on: Sep 09, 2014, 04:14:20 PM
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In the latest novel it is mentioned that the USM was basically just a corrupt government body that was replaced by the original governments after people grew tired of the shade. 


Local Trouble
Sep 09, 2014, 06:51:59 PM
Reply #485 on: Sep 09, 2014, 06:51:59 PM
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So the USM was basically the UPP by another name?  :laugh:



Local Trouble
Sep 09, 2014, 10:49:04 PM
Reply #487 on: Sep 09, 2014, 10:49:04 PM
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Just because they weren't overt commies like the caricatures in the Gibson script doesn't mean the USM wasn't a socialist/post-corporatist organization.  Eh, Comrade?  ;D

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Ultramorph
Sep 09, 2014, 10:55:00 PM
Reply #488 on: Sep 09, 2014, 10:55:00 PM
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Just because they weren't overt commies like the caricatures in the Gibson script doesn't mean the USM wasn't a socialist/post-corporatist organization.  ;D

I think it was more just a military organization. They stepped in to bring the megacorporations to heel when people got fed up with the likes of W-Y. They then sort of fell into the same abuses once they controlled everything, squandering people's goodwill. I wouldn't call them socialist or anything like that, but Sea of Sorrows is vague enough to see many possibilities.


Local Trouble
Sep 09, 2014, 11:00:36 PM
Reply #489 on: Sep 09, 2014, 11:00:36 PM
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Elgyn's remark to Perez about the operation not having been approved by Congress gave me the impression that the USM was just the military branch of the United Systems government.  If that government was formed after some sort of anti-corporatist revolution, I can easily see it being a neo-socialist regime.

« Last Edit: Sep 09, 2014, 11:12:01 PM by Local Trouble »

SM
Sep 09, 2014, 11:30:27 PM
Reply #490 on: Sep 09, 2014, 11:30:27 PM
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Yeah, it's the military arm of a United Systems government.



SM
Sep 09, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
Reply #492 on: Sep 09, 2014, 11:44:18 PM
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 :D


Local Trouble
Sep 09, 2014, 11:47:01 PM
Reply #493 on: Sep 09, 2014, 11:47:01 PM
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General Perez was obviously a Cuban.


Xenomrph
Sep 10, 2014, 08:05:17 AM
Reply #494 on: Sep 10, 2014, 08:05:17 AM
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Is Internecivus raptus still a thing or has that been retconned as the USM's name for the species?  I see no reason why the two designations can't co-exist, but I'm sure we can find a way to turn it into a debate.

As for those cutaways, Ms. Perry just told us that this book was written a few months after the events of AR.  Does that old USCM hardware still exist?  For that matter, does the USCM still exist?  I'd have thought the USM would have absorbed it long ago.

They have data going back to Prometheus and earlier.  Why wouldn't that have data on USCM hardware?
Sure, but is it relevant 200 years later?
Like yeah they're including data on pulse rifles because it's a book written for Alien series fans and they expect to see the guns from 'Aliens', but if it's written 200 years later wouldn't it make more sense to include the guns from 'Alien Resurrection', or at least mention them? Or are the Pulse Rifles mentioned in a sort of "this is the tech of the time period" slant? Because otherwise it'd be like writing a book about American military history from 1776 to today and saying that Civil War rifled muskets were the most effective guns we came up with.


 

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