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Author Topic: ALIEN: Out of the Shadows (Novel 1)  (Read 100661 times)

Kimarhi
Feb 07, 2014, 07:30:53 PM
Reply #300 on: Feb 07, 2014, 07:30:53 PM
I'm no chemist but I don't see how that works.

In regards to the Xenomorph being affected by acids? In what retrospect, to what I said or what with Xenomrph is countering with?

Mrph is saying.  I would think that whatever acid the Aliens have would be amongst the same ph scale as what the hydrofluoric acid would be and that the aliens method of containing its own blood would work similarly to stop another similar ph scale acid from eating its skin.

But like I said, I'm no chemist.

I didn't mind Ash so much.  He could've done everything he did without Ripley's involvement as simply being software attaching itself to any receiving hardware.  There he could've manipulated said crew into doing anything he needed to do to try and obtain the Alien.

Ripley's involvement however makes it TOO convenient though. 

« Last Edit: Feb 07, 2014, 07:35:36 PM by Kimarhi »

Darwinsgirl
Feb 07, 2014, 09:39:15 PM
Reply #301 on: Feb 07, 2014, 09:39:15 PM

I didn't mind Ash so much.  He could've done everything he did without Ripley's involvement as simply being software attaching itself to any receiving hardware.  There he could've manipulated said crew into doing anything he needed to do to try and obtain the Alien.

Wouldn't the only way Ash's AI or "software" get to the minor's computers from being sent from the Narcissus?  :)

If he didn't need Ripley why didn't he launch the shuttle without her sending the software to any receiving hardware or better yet launch it when the ALIEN was on board before Ripley boarded. Then he'd have his specimen.

Ripley or a pilot must have been needed. :)


Kimarhi
Feb 07, 2014, 09:45:56 PM
Reply #302 on: Feb 07, 2014, 09:45:56 PM
Spoiler (click to show/hide)


Darwinsgirl
Feb 07, 2014, 10:04:51 PM
Reply #303 on: Feb 07, 2014, 10:04:51 PM

I take your point.  :)

Though I don't see it as a plot excuse. I see it as a way to tie it into the ALIEN storyline. THE first ALIEN not the Cameron Alien.

Its just my opinion...no better or worse then yours.  :)  And it fun exploring these ideas / theories! ;D


Kimarhi
Feb 07, 2014, 10:08:27 PM
Reply #304 on: Feb 07, 2014, 10:08:27 PM
If you liked it that's cool.  It just doesn't sit well with me.

To each their own, I don't begrudge people their opinions. 


Xenomrph
Feb 08, 2014, 01:52:07 AM
Reply #305 on: Feb 08, 2014, 01:52:07 AM
I'm no chemist but I don't see how that works.

In regards to the Xenomorph being affected by acids? In what retrospect, to what I said or what with Xenomrph is countering with?

Mrph is saying.  I would think that whatever acid the Aliens have would be amongst the same ph scale as what the hydrofluoric acid would be and that the aliens method of containing its own blood would work similarly to stop another similar ph scale acid from eating its skin.
pH scale only deals with how acidic/basic an acid is - different acids can still have different chemical compositions, and something that's resistant to one type of acid might be ineffectual against another. Teflon will stop hydrofluoric acid, for instance, but won't do as much to stop other types of acid.


Kimarhi
Feb 08, 2014, 02:31:17 AM
Reply #306 on: Feb 08, 2014, 02:31:17 AM
I'll have to take your word for it.  Still sounds all types of shenanigans to me.


Xenomrph
Feb 08, 2014, 02:48:01 AM
Reply #307 on: Feb 08, 2014, 02:48:01 AM
I'll do some digging and see if I can find more (or at least, better explained) info for you. To be honest, I'm no chemist either. :P
I went poking around on Wikipedia for an explanation, and while I kinda-sorta understood what was going on, most of their "acids" articles are written under the assumption that the reader is a chemist. :P



Kelgaard
Feb 09, 2014, 09:52:53 PM
Reply #309 on: Feb 09, 2014, 09:52:53 PM
Was Wolf's blue liquid an acid?  Because it definitely worked on aliens.


Xenomrph
Feb 10, 2014, 10:43:51 AM
Reply #310 on: Feb 10, 2014, 10:43:51 AM
We don't know what it was.


The1PerfectOrganism
Feb 10, 2014, 10:48:24 AM
Reply #311 on: Feb 10, 2014, 10:48:24 AM
We know it was f*cking dumb.


Perfect-Organism
Feb 11, 2014, 03:58:17 PM
Reply #312 on: Feb 11, 2014, 03:58:17 PM
I just finished reading the book.  If you ignore the unlikely scenarios posed (mostly to do with Ripley's all too convenient participation in all of this) you will find that is a very fun book.  It is one of the best "original" Alien stories that hasve come out in years.  It would be great if they made this into a comic.

The glaring thing that struck me most was the following.  Does anyone recall the convo that Ash, Parker, Lambert, and Ripley had about drawing straws because the Narcissus (kind of a Titanic flaw!) only has room for three?  Well now it seems the Narcissus only has room for 1.  One has to presume that when Ash, Parker, Lambert, and Ripley were talking about escaping in the Narcissus, they were talking about hibernation capsules for 3 and not just physical space for 3.  If they were talking about physical space, it seems obvious that they could fit about 8 - 10 people in there.  So just 1 hybernation capsule can't be right.  Do I get a no-prize?


Kimarhi
Feb 11, 2014, 08:00:28 PM
Reply #313 on: Feb 11, 2014, 08:00:28 PM
SM WILL KNOW.


Darwinsgirl
Feb 11, 2014, 08:56:45 PM
Reply #314 on: Feb 11, 2014, 08:56:45 PM
I just finished reading the book.  If you ignore the unlikely scenarios posed (mostly to do with Ripley's all too convenient participation in all of this) you will find that is a very fun book.  It is one of the best "original" Alien stories that hasve come out in years.  It would be great if they made this into a comic.

The glaring thing that struck me most was the following.  Does anyone recall the convo that Ash, Parker, Lambert, and Ripley had about drawing straws because the Narcissus (kind of a Titanic flaw!) only has room for three?  Well now it seems the Narcissus only has room for 1.  One has to presume that when Ash, Parker, Lambert, and Ripley were talking about escaping in the Narcissus, they were talking about hibernation capsules for 3 and not just physical space for 3.  If they were talking about physical space, it seems obvious that they could fit about 8 - 10 people in there.  So just 1 hybernation capsule can't be right.  Do I get a no-prize?

I wondered about that too when I first read it and then forgot it... ::) are there any pics of the other capsules...anyone?


 

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