A L I E N : The Bad Reviews...

Started by ThisBethesdaSea, May 31, 2012, 01:05:09 PM

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ThisBethesdaSea

This should put some things in perspective

http://alienseries.blogspot.com/2012/04/bad-alien-reviews.html

"An overblown B-movie... technically impressive but awfully portentous and as difficult to sit through as a Black Mass sung in Latin ... Alien, like Dawn of the Dead, only scares you away from the movies." 
Michael Sragow, L.A. Herald Examiner. 

"It would be very convincing to say that there's no hope for movies - that audiences have been so corrupted by television and have become so jaded that all they want are noisy thrills and dumb jokes and images that move along in an undemanding way, so they can sit and react at the simplest motor level. And there's plenty of evidence, such as the success of Alien. This was a haunted-house-with-gorilla picture set in outer space. It reached out, grabbed you, and squeezed your stomach; it was more gripping than entertaining, but a lot of people didn't mind. They thought it was terrific, because at least they'd felt something: they'd been brutalized. It was like an entertainment contrived in Aldous Huxley's Brave New World by the Professor of Feelies in the College of Emotional Engineering."
Pauline Kael. 

"Occasionally one sees a film that uses the emotional resources of movies with such utter cynicism that one feels sickened by the medium itself. Alien ... is so 'effective' it has practically turned me off movies altogether ... The movie is terrifying, but not in a way that is remotely enjoyable."
David Denby, New York. 


"There is very little involvement with the characters themselves ... A generally good cast in cardboard roles." 
Variety. 

"An empty-headed horror movie with nothing to recommend it beyond the disco-inspired art direction and some handsome, if gimmicky, cinematography."
Dave Kehr, Chicago Reader. 

"Has the usual number of inconsistencies, improbabilities and outright absurdities characteristic of the sci-fi and horror genres. What is interesting, though, is its hostile critical reception, despite the excellent visual values, direction that is no more hokey than usual in such films, dialogue that (when it is decipherable) is par for the course, and acting that is generally superior. What earmarks Alien as a probable audience hit and certifiable critical flop is merely that the horror is more horrible than usual."
John Simon. 

"Just another bloodthirsty shocker, albeit with a classier production than most, and with an army of interesting special effects."
Cinefantastique 

"A horrid film, skillful and studied in its nastiness, and there is little the cast can do to mitigate its manipulative horror ... those with the stomach for indulgent nastiness may go and gibber."
Film Illustrated. 

"[An] empty bag of tricks whose production values and expensive trickery can not disguise imaginative poverty."
Time Out [This negative review does not appear in the Time Out film guides and has been replaced with a kinder one.] 

"A sort of inverse relationship to The Thing invites unfavourable comparisons."
Sight and Sound. 

"Some people's idea of a good time."
Maltin.

And here, for you perusal, are two full-length reviews, one from TIME and one from Vincent Canby at The New York Times.

And here, for you perusal, are two full-length reviews, one from TIME and one from Vincent Canby at The New York Times.
"Alien may prove to be Hollywood's most efficient moneymaking machine of the summer. Technically slick and commercially singleminded, this film attempts to crossbreed the scare tactics of Jaws with the sci-fi hardware of Star Wars. The result is a cinematic bastard, and a pretty mean bastard at that. Alien contains a couple of genuine jolts, a barrage of convincing special effects and enough gore to gross out children of all ages. What is missing is wit, imagination and the vaguest hint of human feeling. Luckily for Alien's creators, such ingredients are not really essential at the nation's box offices, especially during the sunstroke season. 

Still, it is depressing to watch an expensive, crafty movie that never soars beyond its cold desire to score the big bucks. Unlike Jaws, Alien does not use stylistic cunning to excite the audience; it just shovels on the mayhem. Unlike Star Wars, Alien has no affection for past movies of its genre; it just rips them off. Stripped of its futuristic setting and pretensions, this film is an oldtime B monster picture. Alien might just as well be about a huge scorpion loose in a haunted house, circa 1953. While the murder sequences are executed with all the realism money can currently buy, the innocence that ignited vintage horror  films is missing. Alien's steely, literal-minded approach to violence more often recalls last summer's joyless Jaws 2. 
The premise is slender. Because of farfetched plot developments, a crew of seven earthlings lets an alien invade its spaceship as it returns home from a routine interstellar mission. The toothy alien is no fun: his ever changing appearance summons up everyone's worst fantasies about shellfish, and his sole aim is to devour each of the crew members. Once this narrative pattern is established, the only suspense involves the question of who will be eaten next. Since the movie's generally good actors [among them Ian Holm, Yaphet Kotto, John Hurt, Harry Dean Stanton, Sigourney Weaver] all play equally bland technicians, it is hard to make an emotional investment in the alien's pecking order. Indeed, the film's characters are so lifeless that one begins to wonder whether they might not be parodies of space-age bureaucrats. If so, the satire is far too flat to be its own reward. 

The bloodletting scenes aside, Director Ridley Scott [The Duellists] settles for mere competence or even less. He signposts plot developments; the meanderings of the ship's pet cat too often precede the alien's attacks. Scott's allusions to other hit movies do not reflect well on his own. Alien features an all-knowing computer called Mother that is no match in humor or malevolence for Hal in 2001. Though the spaceship's interior recalls both 2001 and Star Wars, the audience never learns enough about its array of gadgetry or the overall layout of its various chambers. Alien, like Invasion of the Body Snatchers, also features some nasty extraterrestrial pods, but there is no social commentary beyond the usual warning against the evils of heartless technology. 
The movie is more a symptom of that technology than an antidote. Scott knows how to push the buttons that make the audience squirm, but he achieves nothing that could not be accomplished equally well by sending electric shocks through a theater's seats. This same manipulative technique was apparent in another recent hit, Alan Parker's blood-lusting Midnight Express, and it is no surprise that the directors of both films got their training in TV commercials. Scott and Parker know too well that if you sell consumers a shiny package, few will question the value of the product inside."

More from The New York Times:

"A GIGANTIC construction moves serenely through space where, though the night never ends, there's always enough light to see strange objects. This one looks like the main set of D.W. Griffith's Intolerance. It's as if Babylon had been cut loose from earth to sail back through space to its own time. In actual fact, it's the cargo-ship Nostromo on its return to earth at the end of an extended voyage to the far end of the galaxy. When we go inside, the ship appears to have been as suddenly deserted as the Marie Celeste. We wander down empty corridors into abandoned living quarters, into engine rooms and, finally, into the command room where the computers are the only signs of life. The interior of the ship is vast. It contains the kind of waste space one seldom sees anymore except in some rare old Manhattan pile like the Dakota. Something decidedly eerie is going on. Thus —familiarly but with immense promise— begins Alien, Ridley Scott's new, elaborately produced science-fiction film that opens today at the Criterion and other theaters. However, as this voyage continues, familiarity consumes the promise and leaves as residue the memory of some shrieks from shocks of a most mundane kind. The crew of the Nostromo have not vanished. They are merely sleeping the time away and, shortly after the opening credits, they come forth from their sleep-pods to prepare for their re-entry into the earth's orbit. It's then that they encounter peculiar signals from the wreck of another space ship, one from another galaxy and one which has crashed onto an uncharted planetoid. The Nostromo stops to investigate, locates the craft and, when it takes off again for earth, it carries aboard a specimen of alien life, a small, octopus-like blob that won't stop growing and —possibly worse— is "unclouded by conscience or delusions of morality." That's about all one should or can say about the story originally conceived by Dan O'Bannon and turned into a screenplay by him and Ronald Shusett. 

Alien is an extremely small, rather decent movie of its modest kind, set inside a large, extremely fancy physical production. Don't race to it expecting the wit of Star Wars or the metaphysical pretentions of 2001 and Close Encounters of the Third Kind. At its best it recalls The Thing, though the Howard Hawks film was both more imaginatively and more economically dramatized. It's an old-fashioned scare movie about something that is not only implacably evil but prone to jumping out at you when (the movie hopes) you least expect it. There was once a time when this sort of thing was set in an old dark house, on a moor, in a thunderstorm. Being trendy, Mr. Scott and his associates have sent it up in space. As he demonstrated with The Duellists, his first feature, Mr. Scott is a very stylish director. Though Alien is not the seminal science-fiction film one wants from him, it's executed with a good deal of no-nonsense verve. The members of the small cast are uniformly good though, with two exceptions, the roles might have been written by a computer. Sigourney Weaver is impressive and funny as the Nostromo's executive officer, the second in command, a young woman who manages to act tough, efficient and sexy all at the same time. Ian Holm is also excellent as the ship's science officer, a man with a secret that will set him apart from everyone else forever. Other members of the crew are played by Tom Skerritt, Harry Dean Stanton, Yaphet Kotto and Veronica Cartwright, the actress who was so good in Invasion of the Body Snatchers. She plays a somewhat similar role here, one that requires her to weep a lot and leaves her so red-eyed and red-nosed that she may be in danger of becoming the Isable Jewell of the living-color space-age. 
Alien's sets and special effects are well done, but these things no longer surprise or tantalize us as they once did. In a very short time, science-fiction films have developed their own jargon that's now become a part of the grammar of film. You know the sort of stuff I mean — the shots of blinking instrument panels, of wildly bleeping computers, of cryptic messages clattering in square type-faces across television screens. There's also the obligatory shot of that huge space vehicle early on in every film. It appears from over our right shoulder, passes over our head and then proceeds slowly and majestically toward the far distance at screen-left. When I first saw it in 2001, it was awesome. Now it makes me feel like a turtle on a busy though unnaturally quiet highway." 

NGR01

NGR01

#1
So what?
It just prove one thing.
Critics are not to be trusted.
Good or bad ones.
Yet you chose to dwell on the good PROMETHEUS critics... Because they serve your speech...

Just go see the damn movie and be over with already :)

ThisBethesdaSea

This is just for the sake of reference. Please be kind NGR01.

Mastes1

Mastes1

#3
ALIEN also had some fantastic reviews at the time as well, its a bit of a myth that the film was universaly panned.
Also i think peoples opinions change with time, we see what absolute shite has come since ALIEN and can recognise now just how good a film it was but many critics at that time expected to see a B-movie and thats what they got and sci-fi was still frowned on at that time even with the success of Star Wars.

Ruzena

Ruzena

#4
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 31, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
This is just for the sake of reference. Please be kind NGR01.

I don't thik he is offensive, and I treat his review of the movie like from someone like me who stalks this forums. So I take what he says very seriously.

I will go to see the movie and I will make up my own opinion, but I doubt NGR01 wants to put the movie down. I think most of us will be dissapointed to some level regardless what critics say.

ChrisPachi

ChrisPachi

#5
Not a legitmate defense for Prometheus, but good to read in the current context.

ThisBethesdaSea

ThisBethesdaSea

#6
It's not meant to be a defense at all...just a compare and contrast. I could really dislike Prometheus, it's very possible. At least I know that ALIEN had some of the very same accusations leveled at it by critics.

ChrisPachi

ChrisPachi

#7
As I said, it's good to read this stuff, so thanks for posting it.

Le Celticant

AVATAR got very solid and high reviews just like prometheus saying it's a good movie but not a great one.

Alien or the thing got very bad reviews when received.
Just like AVP & AVP-R.
But does that mean that AVP & AVP-R are masterpieces? No.

::)

SpeedyMaxx

SpeedyMaxx

#9
Alien was in fact savaged by Pauline Kael, etc, IIRC.  It was quite a shock to go back and look at.  "Style over substance," etc etc.  I think Prometheus may end up with a similar treatment, though it seems to be far more of a mood movie in some ways.

I have no expectation of what Prometheus should be for me as a fan, or what I would have done (except for - plot spoiler -
Spoiler
not killing Vickers in the crash - I'd hoped for more of a anti-Thelma & Louise in shadow negative double act, more antics for her and sweet-hearted Shaw, culminating perhaps in her abandoning Shaw and David on their jaunt into space while Vickers returns home as heiress ascendant
[close]
), or how many monsters, how much gore, how many 'answers.'  I don't care.  I just want to see something new and exciting and scary and interesting.  Even some of the worst reviews call it an ambitious failure, 'doing too much,' 'muddled magic,' etc.  That really gets me excited.  For me, the films people call 'ambitious failures' are often the most exciting - like Blade Runner in its day - the ones that throw everything into the mix.

Aceburster

Aceburster

#10

Needs moar disco-inspired art direction.

escroto

escroto

#11
Quote from: NGR01 on May 31, 2012, 01:12:34 PMSo what?
It just prove one thing.
Critics are not to be trusted.
that's just what the OP was implying by posting that...

zakzak

zakzak

#12
@Mastes1
My opinion of ALIEN didn't change from when I first saw it on crummy Betamax (yes!). MY brother and I would literally run out of the living room when the face hugger jumps on Kane, LOL! It is so terrifically terrifying that I have encountered no contender in horror movies until the Japanese unleashed THE RING & THE GRUDGE on unsuspecting Americans. ALIEN along with THE EXORCIST are masterworks of horror cinema.

Gash

Gash

#13
And Blade Runner reviews are even more damning.

It just helps to keep things in perspective. The complaints I've seen aimed at Prometheus seem to be those that have been leveled at Ridley's other sci-fi films, and I had to listen to those reviews whilst feeling aggrieved that the obvious quality beyond the visuals was being missed.

At the moment I don't know where I stand on Prometheus, I'll see it within 24 hours. Maybe I'll feel non-plussed, or elated, or disappointed. I have no preconceptions of where this story should go, as long as it engages and entertains, and actually, if I am non-plussed at the end of it, that might be a good thing.

By the way, those  A  L  I  E  N  critiques are ludicrous, particularly in hindsight, but then a lot of film critics really looked down on the burgeoning genre of low-budget 'body horror' of the 1970's and  A  L  I  E  N  was the first big budget Hollywood film to legitimise it. You can see that it was a trend they just didn't want but the over reaction in evidence is laughable and has clearly left them blind to so much of what makes the film work. There's also a spoof Mad-style comic strip which is a piss take and it just goes to show that weary cynicism (or sour grapes) has always been part of a certain sector of film criticism. Whether you agree or not depends on where you personally stand on the target, eg, I'd be amused to see someone ripping into the teen vampire trend and anything that hastened it's demise would be fine AFIAC. The hypocrisy of loving film!

NGR01

NGR01

#14
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on May 31, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
This is just for the sake of reference. Please be kind NGR01.

We re cool mate don't worry ;)

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