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Author Topic: Prometheus vehicles exposed  (Read 43221 times)

Valaquen
Sep 02, 2011, 02:10:11 PM
Reply #165 on: Sep 02, 2011, 02:10:11 PM
Duellists,
Oh, come off it. Who the hell ever actually mentions that movie? How many people even know about it in the first place outside of fans of his work?
I think The Duellists was a fantastic film, really fantastic, but you're right - had I never investigated Scott's work, then I'd have never, ever, have come across it.

I can understand significance on certain levels - 'Alien' introduced the "female protagonist" idea
In a sci-fi context, yes. In movies? Hell naw! There was Laurie Strode the year before, and countless other female survivor characters. Blaxploitation films had female Dirty Harry-esque characters, long before Alien. But Ripley is very popular, yes. It's funny that according to David Giler, a lot of the initial feedback came saying that audiences wouldn've preferred that Ripley was a man!  :laugh:


St_Eddie
Sep 02, 2011, 02:22:44 PM
Reply #166 on: Sep 02, 2011, 02:22:44 PM
Duellists,
Oh, come off it. Who the hell ever actually mentions that movie? How many people even know about it in the first place outside of fans of his work?

Hmph, I happen to adore The Duellists and I regularly talk about it with people whenever Ridley Scott comes up in conversation.  Having said that, I'm aware that it's hardly a well known film.  It is a critically respected film though.  Anyway, I just wanted to say that; I have zero interest in joining this Scott Vs Cameron debate, as it's ridiculous and ultimately a fruitless conversation to pursue.

That is all.


icedog97
Sep 02, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
Reply #167 on: Sep 02, 2011, 03:05:38 PM
So...anyway...

The vehicles look interesting and the car/rover thing will probably appear much more subdued in the film. Stage lighting makes a world of difference...just think of the original ALIEN...most people think the creature is black/green and silver.

Quick note on the director tangent...Scott has done some decent work (more recently) and has been influential for sure. In terms of this movie, I can't imagine a better director to try and bring back the same atmosphere that the original film created. I'm pretty confident this film will turn out well. I think his approach is good and his legacy, to some extent, is at stake. All those things should lead to something better than average (one would think).

« Last Edit: Sep 02, 2011, 05:55:36 PM by icedog97 »

BoneyHead95
Sep 02, 2011, 04:18:54 PM
Reply #168 on: Sep 02, 2011, 04:18:54 PM
Looks like that it wil cost them some money! :D


Gash
Sep 02, 2011, 05:15:36 PM
Reply #169 on: Sep 02, 2011, 05:15:36 PM
It isn't a low-blow when we're talking about something the director is working on now, so we use his contemporary history as a filmmaker as a benchmark for whether or not he might mess up. It at least makes more logical sense than "Well he made these great moves decades ago that are still hallmark films of the genre, so there's no possible way he could mess up today".

Whoosh!!

Who are you quoting there btw?


Gash
Sep 02, 2011, 05:48:06 PM
Reply #170 on: Sep 02, 2011, 05:48:06 PM
Duellists,
Oh, come off it. Who the hell ever actually mentions that movie? How many people even know about it in the first place outside of fans of his work?

Dunno, I'm talking about good films, not measuring them by box office receipt. I saw The Duellists around the same time I saw A L I E N. Perhaps I'm only discussing this with Sci Fi fans?


How about Legend, GI Jane, or 1492? They were all trashed.

Indeed, but of all fantasy/sword and sorcery fare made up to that point I'd take Legend over other efforts. Not seen GI Jane, doesn't interest me, 1492 was certainly the best of the Columbus films, but then I wasn't asked to list every Scott film, just those that proved his credentials as worthy of tackling Prometheus.

quote] There are others worthy of note
Not really, no. [/quote]

The above mentioned Legend is worthy of note no matter what you think of Cruise. It is admittedly a visual feast rather than a great film but it's still noteworthy. Someone to Watch Over Me and Black Rain are decent thrillers that I would not find a chore to watch.

Quote
And yes, blow me, I do think Ridley Scott is probably one of the most significant directors of our era.
How is he significant? How are any of them? Dude makes some entertaining films. That's it.

It a question of reference point I suppose. I work in the illustration and graphic design industry with involvement with TV and film in the UK, and I have done for some years, Ridley Scott's influence is more prevalent than any other visualist IMHO. It's sometimes a question of deliberately trying to find a design route that doesn't look like it is pilferred off of Scott (or trying to convince a director/producer not to attempt to copy some aspect of his output - in a poorer way).

« Last Edit: Sep 02, 2011, 07:03:55 PM by Gash »

ThisBethesdaSea
Sep 02, 2011, 06:52:25 PM
Reply #171 on: Sep 02, 2011, 06:52:25 PM
Duncan Jones 'Moon' is the best I've seen in terms of low sic-fi tech used to dynamic and believable effect, and the movie was brilliant too. ;)


JaaayDee
Sep 02, 2011, 06:57:20 PM
Reply #172 on: Sep 02, 2011, 06:57:20 PM
Low scifi tech?  That's because Moon was only set in 2026.  Prometheus is 2085.


Gash
Sep 02, 2011, 07:02:41 PM
Reply #173 on: Sep 02, 2011, 07:02:41 PM
Low scifi tech?  That's because Moon was only set in 2026.  Prometheus is 2085.

I suspect talking about the films production techniques, rather than it's setting. Lot's of aspects of Moon were deliberate old school, using models and real sets, including forced perspective sets etc, only augmented by cgi. And all the more convincing for it.

« Last Edit: Sep 02, 2011, 11:09:59 PM by Gash »



Xenomrph
Sep 03, 2011, 01:19:04 AM
Reply #176 on: Sep 03, 2011, 01:19:04 AM
Cool, thanks for the info. :)


chrisr232007
Sep 03, 2011, 01:23:21 AM
Reply #177 on: Sep 03, 2011, 01:23:21 AM
I think he wants to rip the AVP movies so bad but holds back for some reason :D


St_Eddie
Sep 03, 2011, 04:40:35 PM
Reply #178 on: Sep 03, 2011, 04:40:35 PM
I think he wants to rip the AVP movies so bad but holds back for some reason :D

That reason being that he is affiliated to 20th Century Fox via Prometheus; It's simply politics.  Sir Scott has made enough vague comments regarding the AVP movies as to be able to read between the lines and see what he really thinks about them (i.e. they're shit).

Anyway, as for the vehicle; I'm not overly keen on the aesthetics of it but I also don't hate it, so I guess I'm indifferent.  As others have said, those gold wheels probably won't look quite so lurid on film.


GhidraX
Sep 06, 2011, 08:35:07 PM
Reply #179 on: Sep 06, 2011, 08:35:07 PM
I can't believe fanbois are bending over backwards to argue that Scott isn't a big name.  Self hatered maybe?  Blade Runner I think is one of the most revered films among people working in the industry now.  It's basiscally Christopher Nolan's Bible.  I don't know why people act like you have to have 20 movies of equal influence or something to be significant.


 

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