Doesnt change anything I said tho, he IS an artist not some model builder/technician as you two claim.
I was quoting film critic Barry Norman, and said as much, I hardly think it was an insult to Cameron to call him a master craftsmen. I think you're taking the term artist too literally, I'm not saying Cameron doesn't have art and design ability.
And I said, I just gave examples of his creative lightning techniques, didnt list them all. And what he took from Scott is the backlight and blue night. The wetting of the streets comes from Cameron for example.
I read of that technique in the making of Blade Runner, and I'd be surprised if it hadn't been used years before that by the likes of Carol Reed.
Same with building grated floors specifically to light from under them to create interesting light, theres ton of it
A technique I don't think could be attributed to Cameron, lighting through gratings and latticework can be traced back through the history of cinema - whether it's floors, ceiling or walls.