And the thing is with fanatics is that they have lost their sense of logic.First disagreement, I don't see them as fanatics. They have strict standards, not necessarily rules (yeah, laws too im), but somekind of self respect and self proving. That's not fanatism. This is the purpose of their life as I see. Again, not fanatism.
Well, this is a big game hunter who commit sueside if he can bring back the trophy from his selected target.
So in other words, hunting is a big deal for them, it's a matter of life or death on more than one level.
Collecting that trophy is a way for them to continue their life, one failed hunt and they end it.
I must say that they do have a fanatic approach towards big game hunting.
But on the other hand, when ppl's stocks started falling not so long ago then some of them committed sueside, I wouldn't call these ppl fanatics but I would dare to say that they identified themselves with it,
and when they lost value of their stocks, it was like they lost their reason to live.
How can I explain this in a proper way
According to my upper opinion it's not needed. I see your point, but I still don't agree. What makes them fanatics in those movies.?
The motives behind activating their wristbombs...
If they hunted for just for sport, then they wouldn't commit sueside if they felt like that they had a bad hunt, that things didn't go their way or that they were losing.
They seem to have rules, a twisted code of honor, the elder giving Harrigan a gift after he killed Pussyface,
that gift was Harrigans trophy...a gift from the elder that let him see the next day...it's was a gift of "life".
Until the next time they go to earth, then he's game, a highly valued prey for them to hunt down.
Well, you have to take in the situation the predator was in, the gear didn't matter cause picking up the gear could have given Harrigan the chance to get away. And if Harrigan got away then the Predator would be in a situation, were he as prey, have been followed, attacked, shot unconscious, examined and attacked again in a maneuver who would let the hunter( Harrigan) retreat and restart his attempt in tracking, locating and kill the prey(Pussyace).
It would left the Predator in the role of the prey, and it's bad, very bad.
No, Pussyface must be in the role of the hunter when stalking and killing his prey.
And many things went wrong in the slaughter house so he was in a rush, he didn't think.
He went after the only thing that would make things right, he went after Harrigan. Killing Harrigan would give him the status of a hunter back, cause at that moment he was struggling to regain it.
At that moment he was the rageing humiliated fanatic trying to kill the chief for tricking him into eating pig...
Not fanatism again. Purpose of life and clouded sense of reason are two different things (here I must add, I don't doubt there are fanatics in their rows, it's a characteristic whic they may have). You see the whole hunter-hunted as some concrete, carved in stone thing, which doesn't change in every minute!
That's the thing about fanatism, it is a carved in stone thing, it's not suppose to change...
That's why I think of them as fanatics cause they are ready to die and take you with em, if they lose the role of the hunter to the prey.
Harrigen gave up his role as a hunter when he tried to escape. The pursuing pred was the hunter again (and this whole changed in the movie in many, many cases). And he knew it. The escape of Harrigen wouldn't mean anything, he could've found him just like he did before. Again, he was the hunter then, and he thought Harrigan won't change it. He was wrong. And I pointed that out just because you mentioned it as something really important. Since the pred though he'll win, I don't think it was important for him.
Harrigan did the same thing the Predator is known to do, the Hunter uses "Hit and Run" tactics.
And Harrigan attacked Pussyface on the roof top and before that he sought the Predator out, the Predator didn't know how he found him, only that he was being hunted and found...
The Predator could only change this by killing Harrigan before he escaped, that fight have to end with Harrigan dying in order for the Predator to assume the Hunter role, not Harrigan escaping.
Falling from the roof would not kill himVery important thing, and I disagree. I think he would've died if he'd fallen from there. He was in a desperate situation. I agree, wrist bomb is activated when they realise they have been defeated, and there's no way to change the situation.
Well, I think that if anytime would have wanted to he could jump down from that roof top to the ground to kill a target standing there. Or he could have bounced from the wall.
If he landed on his head that might have killed him, but I don't see that happening. they seem to be pretty good jumpers...
And why active the wristbomb just because he's hanging from a roof top?
Why not put your clawed feet into the wall for support and pull yourself up?
Kill Harrigan and call it the day...it's easy.
He must have know that you can pull yourself up when hanging from a ledge, fall and die ain't the only option.
Sure, they think that they can become the prey...that's why they have their wristbomb.As I said, in my opinion the wrist bomb is for situations where hunter-hunted roles cannot be changed. Again, those two things change. Constantly.
It doesn't make sense, "Anytime" was dying, so that's picture perfect. There was no going back.
"Pussyface" was hanging from a roof top, all he had to do was to pull him self up.
But he activated his wristbomb instead...
Why activate the wristbomb if the roles change, constantly, and it's ok?
And the creatures they look for ain't ones who are able to change the hunter-hunted condition, only one is known for being able to do that, it's the Xenomorph, the Alien.
Wrong. Endings of the original movies. Again, please.
Also I think hunting for those who can change that position is the one thing that makes them different from big game hunters, simple killers. This way you contradict with your first statement in my opinion (with which (
aren't ordinary big game hunters) I agree). If you think they are just in for an easy kill when they are not for xenos, that statement is false.
And xenos are definitely not the ultimate prey. Avp lines say that, but I think for a species that dedicates its life for hunting and looking for challenge, there's nothing like 'ultimate prey'.
is prey who can hurt or kill the hunter, a duck ain't big game, but a lion or a bear is.
The hunter puts himself in danger while hunting big game.
Predators are big game hunters, for one to qualify as big game you have to be able to hurt it or kill it.
Xenos are the ultimate prey because they are extremely difficult and dangerous to hunt, as hunters they are equal if not better, but the Predators would never give the title "Hunter" to any other species but theirs, that's why they are viewed as the ultimate prey, it's the highest level of respect given to another species.
And to clarify things...
The Alien skull in Predator 2 didn't make path for the AvP comics, they were released before the movie.
The guy playing Pussyface was explaining that Pussyface was a douche, he even refereed him as a "Bad blood", you'll have to read the comics to understand what a bad blood, unblooded, young blood and blooded Predator is, cause they don't talk about it in the movies.
Like some movies have zombies in them but we won't hear the characters call them zombies...
...but they're still zombies.
A bad blood is a Predator who breaks the code...
All predators live by the code.
A bad blood is viewed as game for other Predators.
Breaking the code is always punishable by death.
Killing while cloaked is against the code and punishable by death if the Predator gets caught doing it.
Okay, so this is a huge wall of script, sorry for that. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with your idea, it fascinates me I just wanted to explain what I thought. That's all.
No, problems. I don't mind it.
I actually like it...only wish that my English was better, so that I could explain stuff better.