Return of the Giger ALIEN?

Started by Jigsaw85, Jun 08, 2009, 07:16:01 AM

Should this movie bring back the original Alien design?

Yes
77 (83.7%)
No
15 (16.3%)

Total Members Voted: 92

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Übermensch

Übermensch

#15
It's because of cgi and modern techniques that today's special effects don't look as good.  Instead of going for minimalistic, and making every shot count; they go for gratitious shots and show way too much.

SiL

SiL

#16
That's not true at all.

Only a poor workman blames his tools. There's nothing wrong with CGI, it just needs to be used right.

Undeadite

Undeadite

#17
The same can be said for models and prosthetics.

dachande89

dachande89

#18
Honestly, if its Giger's design, it would be nice, if not, I wouldn't flip. Half the fun is examining the new designs of the Alien and how they vary through each film.

SiL

SiL

#19
Quote from: Undeadite on Jun 09, 2009, 07:27:50 AM
The same can be said for models and prosthetics.
Exactly. It's only good if it's done well.

Übermensch

Übermensch

#20
Quote from: SiL on Jun 09, 2009, 07:25:34 AM
That's not true at all.

Only a poor workman blames his tools. There's nothing wrong with CGI, it just needs to be used right.

I didn't say anything against CGI.  CGI is awesome if done right.  But because of CGI, audiences demand bigger and better.  They want to see more aliens.  So we see cgi aliens running around, and they don't look anywhere near as good as the originals.

Some of the cgi shots of the alien in A:R and AVP were particularly bad.  Revealed too much of the creature.  Though some shots were good.

SM

SM

#21
Your exact words were "It's because of cgi and modern techniques that today's special effects don't look as good."  Which is fairly damning.  What say we got back to the good old days of the ever changing scale of Alien rod puppet and shonky compositing.  Which showed the most of the creature up to that pount.  There's a handful of full body shots of the Alien in Resurrection where you can get a good look without pausing.  Hardly a big deal.

Highland

Highland

#22
It's all about balance, when you can tell its a CGI shot, then it's probably went too far. If we are going to stick with one Biomech alien, it better be one hell of a script. You can't really get better than alien. 

Unless they start with one and expand the egg morph into the second half of the movie, that might work out. 

You know they might even go way out there and not actually show the full grown alien and just have a tale about the eggs. Although that would be a very "Ballsy" move.

zombie_sidekick

zombie_sidekick

#23
Well, I have such low expectations that I think we can safely assume that the new Alien film won't get even close to the psychological terror of the original. Something like "wave goodbye to sexual undertones from Alien, please welcome torture porn from AVP:R".

ShadowPred

ShadowPred

#24
^^^^ NOOO!!!

Ratchetcomand

Ratchetcomand

#25
I want a Aliem monster this time not some bug that gets killed in a ease like in AVPR.

SM

SM

#26
QuoteIt's all about balance, when you can tell its a CGI shot, then it's probably went too far.

What about when you can tell it's a guy in a suit?

Pvt. Hicks

Pvt. Hicks

#27
Quote from: Kaworu on Jun 09, 2009, 06:02:57 PM
I want a Aliem monster this time not some bug that gets killed in a ease like in AVPR.

Well seeing how there is going to be one Alien, there wouldn't be much of a movie if it got killed easily...

Jigsaw85

Jigsaw85

#28
is that for sure? If so that's disappointing. I thought this was going to be an origin story which would require multiple aliens. A bunch of giger aliens working together is something i always wanted to see. 

Highland

Highland

#29
Quote from: SM on Jun 09, 2009, 11:37:04 PM
QuoteIt's all about balance, when you can tell its a CGI shot, then it's probably went too far.

What about when you can tell it's a guy in a suit?

Well that's all up to the man with the lens! I'm not going to mess with you on the CGI mate, I know it's your baby.  Just stating little tid bits and background usually work better than a full blown clone war... ;)

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