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Started by Corporal Hicks, Dec 19, 2007, 07:52:02 PM

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howells

howells

#945
ok just got back from the cinema and here's what i thought of it. i thought the first hour was great,i couldn't understand all the negative reviews! but then around the time the national guard arrived i felt the movie took a turn for the worst. it just all seemed to get rushed,weather thats down to poor directing or the fact the strauses were given a small budget to work with im not sure but i found that very dissapointing because up until then i was really enjoying it! also the fight scenes between the two creatures was too dark! you just couldn't make anything out at times!but for me the predator stole the show! whenever it was in a scene the film picked up.i don't like to be too hard on the strauses because overall i thought they did a good job but i think the movie lost its way the last 30 mins which was a shame. but one question,can anyone tell me who the woman was in the end?!!

The Chibi Kiriyama

The Chibi Kiriyama

#946
It was supposed to be the top dog in the Yutani part of Weyland-Yutani (or what would eventually become the Company).

Mr. Weyland

Mr. Weyland

#947
Weyland's review.

After the very long wait and much anticipation I finally saw the movie, the story was, well 'there's aliens attacking people in our town, lets get out' that's about it.

I think the action was good but the aliens didn't seem like aliens, they just seemed like something that was in the way, it also felt like they merged two films in one, you had the people trying to escape and survive and then you had Wolf's adventure, which was probably the best parts of the film.

There wasn't any surprises for me, except when the Predalien pushes the alien away, but I even knew what was going to happen most of the time, but I guess it was my fault for seeing all those clips online.

There was way to much about the characters that I don't think anybody cared about, they had to much screen time, it was like TV soap featuring aliens and a predator, the acting wasn't as bad as I though it was going to be but the dialog was crap most of the time, probably the weirdest one is when sheriff Morales says to Dallas after they decided to separate 'I hope were both wrong' what does that mean, does he hope that they both die instead of one being right?

There was also to much references from the other movies, I didn't mind the ones like the Predator 2 cop sirens, the Aliens tracker noise on the monitors or when the marines screams 'its an ambush' but the ones like 'get to the chopper' and 'kill me I am here, kill me'

Besides all the bad dialog, week ass aliens, and other stuff, the biggest problem was the whole event itself, besides Yutani getting the Predator cannon, which wasn't as exciting as I thought it was going to be, and the military learning the existence of the aliens, these were the only bridge connecting there was, rendering the whole event pointless in a way.

After I left the theatre, my friend said 'for someone who has been waiting for this film for ages you sure don't look that bothered' but he was right, though I enjoyed the movie, I didn't have that 'blown away' feel like I got from the other movies when I 1st saw them, including the 1st AVP

overall I think the film is OK, but not the type AVP film we have been waiting so long for, if they were to make a 3rd movie, I can only hope its the one we have all been hoping for.

Rafael S.

Rafael S.

#948
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Jan 20, 2008, 03:29:18 AM
Weyland's review.

After the very long wait and much anticipation I finally saw the movie, the story was, well 'there's aliens attacking people in our town, lets get out' that's about it.

I think the action was good but the aliens didn't seem like aliens, they just seemed like something that was in the way, it also felt like they merged two films in one, you had the people trying to escape and survive and then you had Wolf's adventure, which was probably the best parts of the film.

There wasn't any surprises for me, except when the Predalien pushes the alien away, but I even knew what was going to happen most of the time, but I guess it was my fault for seeing all those clips online.

There was way to much about the characters that I don't think anybody cared about, they had to much screen time, it was like TV soap featuring aliens and a predator, the acting wasn't as bad as I though it was going to be but the dialog was crap most of the time, probably the weirdest one is when sheriff Morales says to Dallas after they decided to separate 'I hope were both wrong' what does that mean, does he hope that they both die instead of one being right?

There was also to much references from the other movies, I didn't mind the ones like the Predator 2 cop sirens, the Aliens tracker noise on the monitors or when the marines screams 'its an ambush' but the ones like 'get to the chopper' and 'kill me I am here, kill me'

Besides all the bad dialog, week ass aliens, and other stuff, the biggest problem was the whole event itself, besides Yutani getting the Predator cannon, which wasn't as exciting as I thought it was going to be, and the military learning the existence of the aliens, these were the only bridge connecting there was, rendering the whole event pointless in a way.

After I left the theatre, my friend said 'for someone who has been waiting for this film for ages you sure don't look that bothered' but he was right, though I enjoyed the movie, I didn't have that 'blown away' feel like I got from the other movies when I 1st saw them, including the 1st AVP

overall I think the film is OK, but not the type AVP film we have been waiting so long for, if they were to make a 3rd movie, I can only hope its the one we have all been hoping for.

So out of five stars, how would you rate this movie?

Mr. Weyland

Mr. Weyland

#949
Well, I always get told by my university lectures not to give stars, because you ever like it or you don't, but if I had to, I would give it about 3/5.

Xenomorphine

Xenomorphine

#950
Have seen it...

In terms of entertainment, it was surprisingly fun. More so than I had thought it would end up being. A lot of that might be to do with going in there and seeing it as a 'monster film', as opposed to anything to do with these series.

In that sense, it worked. It's a decent 'monster film', in so much as it's what 'Slither' could have been, had it attempted to take itself more seriously.

The acting serviced well, for what it was. There were times when the reactions should have been different: The Sheriff mentioning they found a guy skinned alive, in what felt like an almost casual way... Kelly's daughter not having seen her for, at the least, many months, but having none of the wide-eyed delight she should have, upon first seeing her... The hunter waking up, seemingly not realising he is missing an arm... The guy on top of the armoured vehicle, coming face to face with an Alien and just sort of looking at it, without awe or or any other type of spine-chilling WTF reaction...

But these are small things and largely just trivial. They could have pushed it into having a lot more realism, but I can only assume that these were director decisions and perhaps done for shooting schedule time. To the average viewer, they don't matter, but it's disappointing they weren't done.

In some cases, they had aspected to the cahracters which were nicely rounded. Dallas' meeting with his younger brother, for instance. It achieved their dynamic, more or less in the one scene. But then there's stuff like Dale... In one shot, he's exchanging verbal barbs with some guy, then, completely out of the blue, throws him across the street and chucks his keys down the drain. Seriously, WTF?! And ricky, dude, if Jesse's so hot and coming onto you, even if you don't want to reciprocate (which, you know, you should have at least shown the private temptation to do, considering your feelings on the matter), you should have at least got your own immediately back on the guy and asked her and her friends to stay there as witnesses, while you call the local police about it. That's assault and damage to private property, right there.

Nevertheless, it's saying something that I can at least put names to faces, in this one. I can only do that for a very limited number of characters for the predecessor or even 'Alien 3', come to that.

In terms of a film with Aliens and Predators in it... I'm finding it difficult to say, one way or the other. As a collective whole, I'd have to say no, but it does have its moments. In that respect, it's like the previous film.

Whyte has yet to fully master the Predator movements. Definitely getting there, but it still lacks the fluid, ballet-like grace of Hall's performance, where one movement smoothly carried into the other, just by sheer inertia.

The Aliens looked better than previous advertising showed them as, but that's mostly to do with shadow. Even so, I congratulate the directors for hiding them as well as they did, if that was the intention. This goes especially well for the facehuggers. That publicity shot must ahve been cut out of the film, because the angles we saw these facehuggers at, made them look like they were clamped tightly to faces. A huge difference, compared to their previous incarnation! They also moved beautifully.

Where, however, were the 'cool' things we were going to see the Aliens doing? I never saw any or, at least, don't remember them. There's one which is dragging a dead body along, only to... Repeatedly strike it in the head with the double-jaws... Why? It looked stupid and illogical. If the Alien finds something it needs in the brains, then have it root around inside the skull, not just flog the proverbial dead horse. It literally made the thing look retarded and that's not something I say lightly, although would explain why it doesn't seem to get so much as a hint of something else being in the same (rather massive) room.

The same level of senses which, remember, Ripley 8 was merely influenced by, yet was still able to detect when the Auriga was starting to move (in a vacuum and with "stealth run" being activated).

Their motivations were a bit off, too. Previously, they've been relentless slaughterhouses, intent on either killing or breeding with the target, no matter what. A collective swirling, vicious storm of death, unable to be turned away. In this version, they can be fightened away with a few hits of a gun. In fact, I seemed to get the distinct impression that they were less interested in killing the Predator, at some points, as opposed to 'counting coup' with it.

This is particularly true of the Predalien... "Oh, you just cut me! Here, let me just stand and pointlessly roar at you, in return!"

This is repeated, later on, when the Predator slowly and methodically removes equipment and (slowest of all) the mask. There were comments, months ago, from people wanting the Predalien to tear the thing away, then the Predator to slowly look at the creature and roar angrily at it. My response was always to the effect of, why would the Predalien let it?

But no, it just stands there... Posing... Growling... Letting the Predator cover its eyes and slowly striptease... Again, WTF?

The Predalien was a bit of a mess, really, as many had feared it would end up being. The dreadlocks don't add to its character. In fact, they damn well obscure it, half the time, considering how much they're twirling around the place and covering the details up and was more often identified, not by jaws any other feature, but by its vast, mucous-filled bulk. Even so, I'm thinking about its mentality... In 'Aliens', the Queen was able to command one of her children away from Ripley and Newt, with a loud, exhaling hiss. the Predalien doesn't bother with this, literally bitch-slapping its brethren away in a decidedly... Dare I say it... Non-Alien fashion.

The reproductive cycle is now more confused than ever, too. Unless teh various pregnant hosts' stomach linings had already been split open, in which case they should have died well before the actual 'hatching', how in the world did it manage to introduce those orange-sized embryos to the womb, when it pushed them down mouth?

The actual confrontations are weird, too. Aliens and Predators coming to blows, to me, should be the epitome of viciousness. Here, they just sort of... Run into one another. No slicing, no dicing and when one or the other of them does seem able to do something about it, it's the Predator doing so in a way meant to make it look iconic, at the expense of wasting considerable time. When we do get to a point where it looks like we'll see them going at it in the way they should, like the department store, it simply cuts away.

There are moments of 'coolness', don't get me wrong. They can even sweep you along, if you forget we're dealing with Aliens and Predators, but there's also the feeling of going from one set piece to the next, just for the sake of it.

An example would be the pool scene. Something is heard oging into the water, the likes of which the characters concerned, have not only never seen, but don't stand much chance of doing, either, because the lights have gone out. One would think this would be an excellent chance for some 'Jaws'-like impending doom and real horror. Instead, the girl starts freaking out and they all try to rush away... Why? How does she know what it is? Why do they believe her? Why not have the bully-type ridicule her or whatever?

Another example is the National Guard. The town's evacuated because of the power going down? What? And the National Guard are called in, armoured vehicles and all? What's that meant to achieve? In all seriousness, is that what happens in the US? Does the National Guard have jurisdiction over power station failures? Do they hold the workers at gun-point and go, "FIX THIS NOW, YOU f**kER!" Because, really, being called in because the Sheriff diplomatically tells the authorities they've got some sort of biolgocial hazard breakout, would be far more logical.

It's moments like that which scream 'plot device', yet do add a certain sense of atmosphere to the proceedings - putting this film on the same level as a typical james Bond outing, if truth be told. I felt a bit like it was 'War Of The Worlds' when they came thundering through, combined with all the evacuating traffic (God knows what was holding it up, of course, because it was jsut a rural place, but there we are) and that was of the atmospheric good.

This is where we come to the other flaw, however. Wasted potential. Because we get these scenes and then hardly anything is actually done with them, before it's time to go somewhere else. They had the National Guard getting abducted and attacked, but with none of the creeping terror felt in the nest scene, in 'Aliens', which it was blatently attempting to copy. We went from them being killed, to hearing their dying cries over the radio, which was an excellent idea, but unlike, say, 'Memphis Belle, where something very similar happens, there's very little emotional pay-off from it.

And yes, the hospital scene is emotionally dark, but... There's something missing from it. Lambert's death, in 'Alien', had many times more horror than this and, considering it was about a giant space monster forcing embryos down the throats of pregnant women, it's perplexing me as to why this is. In fact, part of me wonders if that scene didn't go far enough - if you're going to step into that territory, then go balls-out with it. I don't mean in a pornographic way, either, but there was something a bit... I don't know... A bit too quick about it. The heart monitor screens flat-lining was a great touch, yet I didn't get a feeling of something to rival any of the other films, in that scene. There was nothing 'special' about it. It just felt generic and by-the-numbers, although I thought the Predalien looking through the glass at babies in incubators, thinking about them, was an interesting touch (and, regretfully, about as cerebral as the beast ever tries to be).

As you can see, I thought there were some good ideas, here and there, but the bottom line is, it needed far less high-octane and a lot more ominous dread, with a heavy injection of added realism.

In terms of entertainment, it's got decent value (and I didn't felt cheated out of my money, by any means). It's just not anywhere near the classic everyone was wetting their udnerwear over for ages, in anticipation of.

Unfortunately, I think that, because of that, it's only going to have a very limited rewatchability factor. Once the 'cool' scenes have been watched a couple of times, most viewers aren't going to sit through it all again for a long time.

Initial viewing: Three out of five.
Rewatchability/'cassic factor': Two out of five.

Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Jan 18, 2008, 09:08:24 PM
He injects it into the wrist computer.  It analyses the fluid and selects or creates a vision mode specfically designed to track the facehugger.

I felt it was tracking the fluid the things were immersed in and, thus, covered by. They didn't look like facehugger tracks, more like fluid smeared over the floor.

Xenomorphine

Xenomorphine

#951
I would also like to point out, the colouring factor was not as it should have been. They should have made it like the various 'Underworld' films, which was what I was really hoping for... Somehow dark, yet cold and tinted in such a way that edges of detail are highlighted, not hidden away. Thing are easily concealed in the dark, yet, when required, shown off to their best, like that.

Rafael S.

Rafael S.

#952
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Jan 20, 2008, 04:11:52 AM
Well, I always get told by my university lectures not to give stars, because you ever like it or you don't, but if I had to, I would give it about 3/5.

You never stop impressing me Mr. Weyland!

Corporal Harrison

Corporal Harrison

#953
though i rated the movie 9/10,
there are just sum problems i had, like i said in the non spoiler reviews too dark,
another problem i had was the dead waitress with the guts running from her stomach that was... interesting lol. I loved the gadgets and the whip, (which could have been used a bit more)  i didn't think the baby scene was  absoloutely necessary but i dont really care that much. That was the only problems witht he film but but only little improvement is needed
i loved the film!
9/10

Der_Meister

Der_Meister

#954
I saw it fridaynight  and I surely enjoyed it, but there were some things that botherd me:

-Chet Vs Wolf: too short
-battles: sometimes too dark and fast
-Predalien smacking a drone: what was up with that + not enough screentime
-Aliens didn't mich get any screenmoments
-chestbursting: too soon (cause of the hormones probably)
-story
-whenever a Alien appeared , they get blasted withing the minute

pros:

-Predator never looked so good
-fights: some fights were supperb , altough thee aliens were Wolf's bitch
-Predship looked awesome
-gore was good
-Predator weapons
-homages to previous films
-music

Ill sure write a review later

VenomX

VenomX

#955
OK, even though I haven't been a frequent poster here since the sites re-birth, I've still been lurking about and thought I'd go ahead and post my own review here as well, for what it's worth.

First off, I really have to say (all brown-nosing aside) that I sincerely thought the Strause brothers did a really good job directorially with this movie, a lot of the angles they choose, the effects and all that really does keep the movie fairly interesting, at least for the first half to two-thirds of it. Sure, it just can't compare to Ridley Scott's "Alien" but come on, this is from what I've understood their first attempt at doing a major feature film on their own. That taken into consideration, I'm predicting a brilliant future career for the brothers and they'll likely in 5-10 or so years time be making movies that'll manage to impress even the most hard-core critics of AvP-R, at least given that their projects get the budget they deserve/need.

What I felt they didn't do so good is, especially towards the end, the movie felt very chopped up, rushed, and hard to understand what was going on in any of the action scenes. I feel that the major problem here is not even so much short choppy cuts, but rather the camera doing way too many close-ups all the time. It should have been pulled back a bit at times for scale and to give a bigger picture of what's going on. The rushed feeling might be a lot due to being forced to cut so many minutes out that'll hopefully be made better in the DVD release (even a few extra seconds do a lot for pacing of a scene) but as somebody has stated, the theatrical should still of course "work" on its own as well. I also can't help but to second what most have said about it being way too dark. It was.

The big, big problem with this movie though, IMHO, is the shitty-ass idea of setting it on earth in the first place. This is a point both movies failed on (even though not as horribly in the first one due to it being set in a pyramid under ice) and I feel no matter what influence the brothers may have had on the final script, an Alien vs Predator movie based on the "war on earth" concept has to fail, and they do.

The reason it will fail is the Alien part of the franchises. Ridley started something off with an epic film that's grand, beautiful, eerie and majestic in a truly otherworldly creepy sort of way. The feeling in alien is a real bone-chiller (well, by those days standards) in everything from the brilliant initial build-up with the ancient derelict ship and hinted origins onto the whole crew being taken out one by one until you're left with loneliness, desperation and panic in a cold, empty spaceship with something frightening and truly alien possibly lurking around every corner until the very end.

Taking something like this to earth in a small-town setting will leave you with a parody at best. Gosh darn me, there's an alien in our back yard, isn't there? Oh look, there's an alien in little Timmys lunch box. Oh dear, there's an alien in the trunk of our car, what WILL we do? Let's run, shall we? It just doesn't work, and it never can. I know the Strauses said they really wanted to avoid making it ridiculous like aliens dancing in front of a McDonalds, but a big part of this movie still felt exactly that way for me (rubber suit guy climbing out of manhole anyone?), simply due to the setting - no amount of hiding the aliens in darkness is going to save that. It'll just create a film that's both too dark AND silly looking.

For the predator side of the story, earth is a great setting because they're all about coming to us, as nomadic hunters. With alien, the story is rather that humanitys greed and desire for an ultimate weapon got our fingers stuck in the cookie jar as a big monster suddenly taps on our shoulders. We messed with something we should have left alone, and now we're screwed. A predator blowing a hole in his own ship and spilling out a bunch of facehuggers to randomly start attacking homeless toothless hobos on earth doesn't quite live up to its legacy. It horribly cheapens the film, and when you start mixing in a genetic cross-breed of these two alien species in the middle as well, you've made a conscious choise to head for disaster, which this film does.

I believe that if the brothers had been hired to do a Predator 3 instead, we would have hordes of predator fans cheering (for an end result that would have been truely good) and the poor alien fans would be left unscarred. In this case, unfortunately, we get a film that really screws both franchises over and leaves us with something that for the most part only the younger predator-only fanboys can get overly excited about. The vast majority of those of us who grew up with these movies and saw most of them as they were gradually being released over the years, one by one, eagerly anticipating the next chapter in each franchise, are likely to be very saddened by where they have gone today. I know I am.

This is also coming from a person who has really ultimately hated the concept of an Alien vs Predator movie from the very start. It works in the games, and it works in the comics maybe, but I just don't feel that mixing the two on the big screen was ever, or will ever, be a good idea. Get us a decent AvP3 game and get Ridley started on a final chapter of the Alien saga instead. The Strauses would be a great pick for P3.

I don't blame the Strauses at all for this movie being a disappointment to me though, on the contrary I stand by my initial statement that I feel they did remarkably well for a first feature film, and I'll be keeping an eye open for any future projects of theirs. I just personally feel that both "AvP" and "AvP:R" are films that simply should have never been made. But then again, I feel similarly about for example "Alien: Resurrection" and I have to admit I cringed more in my seat when the newborn popped on screen, than I did at any point throughout AvP:R. But Resurrection had strong characters with strong acting and that "sci-fi feel", due to being set in a spaceship, that'll still keep you fairly interested. Anything "Alien" set on earth is going to suffer from lacking that.

All rambling aside, I feel the brothers ultimately did "sort of" deliver -- the Wolf and the homeworld shots DO make this a must-have in my DVD collection, and I'm also holding on to the hope that the longer edition can still make it more enjoyable -- but I feel the horrible script, the low budget, the poor acting (thinking mostly about homeless people and other B-grade characters here, not the leading girls and boys so much) and the very concept itself of Aliens, Predators and a Predalien together on earth, fails miserably.

I think the Strauses got screwed over by Fox with this deal almost as much as the rest of us fans did. I'm still not mentally ready to grade this movie, but it ends up on the bottom somewhere along with the first AvP and Resurrection. If the homeworld sequence is (from what I've understood) closer to the Strauses own vision of how things should be made, then Fox made a HUGE mistake by not giving them a much, much larger budget.

VenomX, administrator of AvP Freaks, signing off.

Darkness

Darkness

#956
Good review Robert. I was wondering when you were going to post one.

Corporal Harrison

Corporal Harrison

#957
that was a good very long review
nice work

Blood

Blood

#958
That's my overall impression of AVPR on first viewing.

I've been seeing these franchises at the cinema since Alien- yes I'm that old.

This film tried too hard to give character to too many humans. They should've picked a smaller group, personally I'd ditch the teenagers (maybe just my age :-) ) in favour of the sheriff. His failing to cope with the situation would've been more interesting than the 'looking at the clock' filler.

Wolf was pretty handy in the sewer but a let down at the powerplant. Not spotting the alien below, surely a noob mistake? Maybe a homage to Arnie under the treebridge but a homage too far.
I guess a counter arguement would be did he have the scar or helmet mark to show he'd dealt with aliens before? But if he hadn't he wasn't really the Pred' for the job.
On the topic of Wolf, I think he should've removed the helmet earlier and shown some of the expressiveness (a real word?) the animatronic was clearly capable of.

I also think a better ending would've been another Predator coming out of the trees and demanding the plasmacaster back, in a reverse hamage to Pred'2.

The acting overall wasn't as bad as many reviews suggest, most simply weren't given much to do.

The trailler had bulit up my expectations, I suspect I'll enjoy it more on disc.

 

Darkness

Darkness

#959
Well, here's my review of AvP Requiem. Almost seems a bit pointless posting this a month after it came out in America.

Summary
Pros & Cons:


+Predator Homeworld
+National Guard Sequence
+R-Rating (?)
+ADI finally made a decent Predator design.
+Visual Effects.

-Hack-for-hire Shane Salerno
-Terrible script, story, dialog, characters etc.
-Fairly bad acting.
-Homages very tiresome.
-Alien vs Predator Battle Scenes
-Predalien/Predalien Reproduction Method
-Dallas firing that Predator gun.
-Gore a little over the top.
-Pacing/Editing
-Very short movie.
-Small budget.
-Fox Marketing.

AvP Requiem Review
By Darkness

Best. Movie. Ever.

^ That's what I would be saying if I was a clueless thirteen year old fanboy or if I had lost my mind in some bizarre accident. Fortunately, I'm not and I haven't.

Let's be honest lads. Ever since AICN reviewed that script, we all knew it was going to be a bad movie. I thought there might be a slight chance of it being somewhat decent after the R-Rated trailer was released online. Alas not. I cannot *emphasize* enough just how f**king terrible this script is. Written by hack-for-hire Shane Salerno, I am completely in shock as to how A) this script got greenlighted by a studio in the first place and B) what on earth possessed the Strauses to direct this piece of shit knowing full-well how bad it was.

I don't really blame the Strauses for the entire movie. They seem like good guys and are obviously fans of the series. Though that could be part of the problem too. I still stand by my golden rule after AvP. Alien/Predator fans should not make AvP Movies. I understand that the script could have been a lot worse too had it not been for the changes they made. Though wouldn't any director have done the same if not more? Hell, I'm guessing the reason the Strauses landed this job was because no other director would have even touched it.

Let's talk about the certificate. The movie is R-Rated but don't let that fool you. The movie is still aimed at clueless kids who don't know any better. The Strauses overplayed the R-Rating far too many times. In all honestly, I didn't think it was that gory but maybe I've been de-sensitized by watching too many Saw movies. The pregnant woman was obviously the highlight here and it was a little unnerving and maybe a little over-the-top. The gore seems to be overly done all the way through like the Strauses are trying to prove a point or something.

Props to the visual effects. This is the Strause's forté and they delivered when it came to the effects. From the Predator ship crashing to Earth and the shot of the Predator homeworld, it's all nice to see. Seeing the blue thermal vision on the Predator was a much welcome return too.

The music was done by composer Brian Tyler. I'm not very good at judging music in movies but I think he captured both Alien and Predator themes well.

On to the story now. I guess the beginning is a good place to start. Yeah, the beginning is a hugely wasted opportunity. They could have done some great battles with the Predators and the Predalien on the ship. Instead it was over before it began which can be said for every Alien-Predator battle in this picture. I'm still confused as to how this carries on from AvP. What happened to the mother ship? How did Scar's body and the Hybrid get on a scout ship? Why was the scout ship near Earth? Who knows? Do we care?

The story soon starts rolling once the ship crashes onto Earth. Facehuggers escape and the plot is in motion. Then comes a quick sequence involving Wolf leaving the Predator homeworld. This is obviously the best part of the film here. No other film has done it and it has possibly given a glimpse to the future of the franchises. My only complaint is perhaps the Predator planet should have been more jungle-like instead. Anyway, for some odd reason, Wolf is the only Predator that is sent from the homeworld to take care of the problem. Knowing full well, that there was a Predalien on the loose as well as those facehuggers, why only send the one Predator?

After the ship crashes, a father and son are out hunting when they are attacked. I have to say, there's some horrendous acting in this film. I mean, come on, the actor who plays Sam was just awful. The kid just saw his father's arm burnt off and attacked by a Facehugger and he stands there trying to look scared. Then the kid's chestburster sequence was supposed to be this super-shocking sequence. When I saw it, I gave it nothing more than a *shrug*. The acting seems to be bad all the way through. Steven Pasquale in particular was completely emotionless after every line. The Strauses have to take some of the blame for the acting. This is what direction is all about.

The characters' backstories are completely missing too. Why was Dallas in prison? What's Ricky and Jesse's story? What's the deal with Kelly and her husband? A lot of the characters are simply introduced to be killed off only moments later.  There's very little characterisation. You just don't care about them. I certainly couldn't care less who lived and who died. I really wish Dallas had been killed off at some point though. Would have been better if the hybrid had stabbed him straight through the chest instead of wounding Ricky through the shoulder.

I also don't get why Kelly had a daughter? I liked the actress in Invasion but her character seemed really pointless here. Instead it was all some twisted homage to Ripley and Newt from Aliens. Molly hardly had any lines which was probably for the best. Oh, yeah, speaking of dialog, it's downright terrible in places. The last line spoken by Molly at the end: "Mommy, are the monsters gone?". I could spend the whole review complaining about the dialog.

The homages are so tiresome as well. Calling a character Dallas for starters. WTF? Come on. And what's with the skinned body? The Predator wasn't here for skinning bodies. No thought whatsoever has gone into writing this movie. It's they like they made a list of cool stuff from the previous movies and put it in there even if it made no sense at all.

Okay, it's time I talked about the creatures, I think, after all this is why we're all here. ADI, yeah, I gave them a lot of stick after AvP but they brought their game up with this movie. They made a much better Predator this time around. He looks much sleeker than the ones in AvP. The facial design was okay. Still nowhere near the original film but far better than AvP. I really wish they would bring Stan Winston back. Ian Whyte was on form in the movie. I like the guy and I thought he did a good job. I was never keen on the new Predator weapons. Never liked the Whip weapon and the Predator punching his way through the ground just looked ridiculous. The laser mines would have been a good addition if it wasn't for the silly sound effect when the alien went through it.

The Alien designs haven't been great for the last two movies and this one is no different. I don't really mind the alien designs to be honest. They are what they are. You can't really blame ADI for the shit budget. I suppose it's good the directors wanted to have the ridged heads. Sets them apart from the AvP aliens though it doesn't explain how they got these ridged heads. It was well established that in Aliens, the creatures had ridged heads because they had been hibernating. So why do they have them here?

The Predalien... again, it is what it is. The design was never going to live up to fans' expectations but I think this is more because of Fox's wishes. I don't hate the design; it's certainly nowhere near as bad as what the Newborn in Alien Resurrection was. As for the creature in the film, I hated the whole PredQueen concept for several years so I can't really believe they've done this in a feature film. I'm not even going to try and work out theories as to why it was a PredQueen. It's just not worth it. I'm disappointed there was no regular Queen. Would have been interesting to see how it would have acted in that sort of environment.

The much-discussed reproduction method was a complete waste of time too. It just all seemed so unnecessary. It just didn't really seem like there were that many aliens in AvPR anyway so this seemed unwarranted. If they wanted to get more aliens on Earth without a Queen, they should have just added more Facehuggers on the ship or dare I say it, include egg-morphing. I *really* wish they wouldn't f**k around with the basis of the life cycle in this way. The saddest part of all is that this reproduction method is now canon.

I'm actually kinda surprised that no other Alien hybrids were made. I mean, this story would have been the perfect opportunity for introducing other hybrids. The dog in the sewer for example, what happened to that? I don't think the movie really called for other hybrids though even if they'd have had the budget. The Predalien was more than enough.

There are about four Predator vs Alien battle scenes: The sewer, the store, the hospital and on the rooftop. None of them hold a candle to the Celtic/Gill vs Grid from AvP so that should tell you something. All of them are really short and forgettable. What the makers should have done was to have gone for quality over quantity. They should have longer and better choreographed battle sequences.  I don't really mind the whole Predator-bias in the movie. The aliens are really just canon-fodder for the Predator and after AvP, I don't mind that.

The pacing of the movie moves at lightning speed which everybody knows about. I remember Colin saying that 90 minutes was "about right" for this movie. Let me tell you, he lied. It's like they tried to fit a two-hour movie into a 90-minute shitfest. Yeah, I heard that Fox cut 30 minutes out because they wouldn't give them any more money to finish the effects but that's not an excuse. They should have planned stuff like this at the start. They should have cut sequences out and extended other sequences in pre-production. Instead, they tried to do too much. They left it all too late and the editing was done very poorly.

There are many various scenes throughout the movie ranging from a school to a power plant.  I guess one ray of light was the National Guard battle. Even though it only lasted a minute, it was more interesting than anything else I saw. In fact, if they'd have based the movie around the National Guard instead, it would have been a far more interesting movie in my opinion.

It's pointless for me to talk about all the scenes in the movie so I'll skip to the ending. The main characters find themselves on the rooftop of the hospital with the Predator and Predalien facing off. Seeing Dallas firing the Predator gun didn't alter my opinion of it. It's still as bad as it was in the trailers. The final battle sequence with the Predator/Hybrid was terrible and another wasted opportunity. I mean you look at what Anderson did and he managed to create a decent battle sequence with the Queen. This one here just seemed so tacked on. And I found it quite amusing the Predator took his mask and weapons off midway through the battle sequence. WTF for? What was the Predalien doing during this time? The Predalien doesn't care about honour.

The government soon drops a bomb on the whole town killing everything and everyone. It's all rather far-fetched by this point. And the final scene is another tacked on scene. Are we supposed to get that the government uses a Predator gun to create spaceships in the future?

So like I've said all the way through the review, it's a very bad story. I don't know why they're so intent on setting AvP on Earth. It clearly doesn't work. At least Anderson tried to keep continuity by setting it Antarctica, this guy Salerno seemed to throw continuity out the window when he wrote this nightmare. Oh and one last thing. A big f**k you goes out to Fox. Firstly for greenlighting this train wreck, secondly for not showing us anything for several months and then for spoiling the movie in the numerous trailers and video clips that were released. There was really no need to show the first five-minute segment online either. That was completely unnecessary. And lastly for screwing over UK fans again and making us wait ages to see the damn thing.

Conclusion

I really wanted to like this movie but there are just so many problems with it that I just cannot ignore.  I have only one question to ask. Why? Why was this movie made in the first place? It's going to puzzle me for a long time. The script is just so contrived and awful and it's really sad to see my two favourite creatures treated this way yet again. It's a bad movie, no question about that.

The only thing Fox and co. have accomplished here is that I now have to go back and re-evaluate my opinion of the first AvP. That's right. I thought AvPR was far worse than the first one. And I didn't even have high expectations. At least AvP had the whole epic feeling and the story did have a lot of potential. I mean, for me the three biggest problems with AvP were the rating, the piss-poor Predator designs and the ridiculous team-up. Fortunately these three issues were corrected this time around in the sequel. It's the script for me though. If the script is this bad, everything else is pointless. This movie was doomed from the outset. It doesn't seem to have many redeeming features to speak of.

I feel sorry for the Strauses, this being their first movie and all. They really didn't stand a chance at all. They had a shit script, they had a low budget, poor actors, hell, I can't work out why they signed on in the first place. It's not done any wonders for their future projects. Then again, saying that, Anderson somehow manages to still find work. They have potential and I reckon they could make a great Predator 3 movie if they had the right script and a decent budget.

I personally hope we *never* see another AvP film ever again. Please, for the love of God, don't make any more. I'm starting to wonder whether having Aliens and Predators in the same film together just wasn't meant to be. I often thought things couldn't get any worse after AvP. I was wrong. It happened and I dread to think what's in store for AvP3. The Strauses want to do a huge $100M+ sci-fi/horror/action AvP Movie set in space and I just know they'll do something silly and include the Space Jockey's as well. To be honest, I can't imagine Fox will ever give them this much money to do AvP3. Next stop: Direct-To-Video. It really wouldn't surprise me.

I don't hate AvP Requiem. Not as much as I did with AvP anyway. AvP was just a huge jolt to the system which I never expected. I'll still buy the AvPR DVD and hopefully, I can salvage something from that. These new 6-8 minutes on the DVD might help the pacing a little. I still recognize that AvPR is a worse film than AvP. Not a lot I can say other than that.

Over and out.

1/5

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