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Title: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: The Shuriken on Nov 07, 2007, 04:39:20 AM
In the movies, Ripley refers to the Aliens as Xenomorphs, that's nothing new.

But what exactly would a Predator call them? In terms of a scientific name.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Accaris on Nov 07, 2007, 04:40:50 AM
The Predators aren't very scientific. The "yuatja" apparently have referred to the Alien as "The Black Death" and "Hard Flesh."
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: The Shuriken on Nov 07, 2007, 04:51:55 AM
Quote from: Accaris on Nov 07, 2007, 04:40:50 AM
The Predators aren't very scientific. The "yuatja" apparently have referred to the Alien as "The Black Death" and "Hard Flesh."

Thanks for the info. ;D
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Russian_Predator on Nov 07, 2007, 05:09:23 AM
IMHO, Predators name them as "Acid Meat".  ???
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Tarog on Nov 07, 2007, 08:30:17 AM
uhh how about xenomorph  :D
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Russian_Predator on Nov 07, 2007, 08:58:25 AM
Quote from: Tarog on Nov 07, 2007, 08:30:17 AM
uhh how about xenomorph  :D

Xenomorph? *Predator tries to say this word of Greek origin:

Zenamurrh, Hshinamuff, Zinamuhr, Kzhinamorr...

What is such people have thought up??? Same simply "Acid Meat"!!!
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: maledoro on Nov 07, 2007, 12:16:13 PM
Quote from: Ultrapredator on Nov 07, 2007, 04:39:20 AM
In the movies, Ripley refers to the Aliens as Xenomorphs, that's nothing new. But what exactly would a Predator call them? In terms of a scientific name.
"Xenomorph" isn't a scientific name, either.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Russian_Predator on Nov 07, 2007, 01:50:31 PM
My nonsense isn't canon. I try to represent their language.  :P
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: War Wager on Nov 07, 2007, 02:53:11 PM
Serpentines or something...
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Russian_Predator on Nov 07, 2007, 02:55:49 PM
Well, Alien is "Acidic Dragon".  ;D
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Ratchetcomand on Nov 07, 2007, 04:48:00 PM
Maybe they called them "Internecivus raptus". In the Alien Quadrilogy DVD identifies the scientific name of the Xenomorph race.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Private Hudson on Nov 07, 2007, 11:29:39 PM
Maybe the "Serpents"?
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 07, 2007, 11:34:40 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Nov 07, 2007, 04:48:00 PM
Maybe they called them "Internecivus raptus". In the Alien Quadrilogy DVD identifies the scientific name of the Xenomorph race.

Any remember the comic book term for them?
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: happypred on Nov 08, 2007, 04:40:52 AM
Kiande Amedha - hard meat

I remember the term Black Warrior referred to their metaphor for death
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Russian_Predator on Nov 08, 2007, 05:47:51 PM
How much the phonetics of Predators differs from phonetics of human languages?
Whether they use sounds for dialogue in the language?
Whether can be dreadlocks electromagnetic body of dialogue and perception?

Language Yautja is doubtful and heretical idea for me. )))
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Alienseseses on Nov 08, 2007, 11:25:09 PM
How about Parasite Storm?
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Private Hudson on Nov 08, 2007, 11:35:50 PM
One could be, "Hunters Prey"... :-\
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: AvPvTerminator on Nov 09, 2007, 01:51:27 AM
who cares? :-\

anyway personally id go with hard meat
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: The Facehugger's facehugger on Nov 10, 2007, 10:04:59 PM
maybe black meat(but preds don't want to have burnt meat)
or maybe they have a specific name for them

Egg
-PuuD
Facehugger
-Leaptus tentaclas
Chestburster
-Serpent
Drone
-Black dagger,black meat again, smooth headed freak
Warrior
-Everything(cept smooth headed freak),ridge headed freak
Predalien
-Lookalike Meat
Runner
-Ferrari Meat
Queen
-Giant black meat
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Vemados on Nov 11, 2007, 06:46:26 AM
Quote from: The Facehugger's facehugger on Nov 10, 2007, 10:04:59 PM
maybe black meat(but preds don't want to have burnt meat)
or maybe they have a specific name for them

Egg
-PuuD
Facehugger
-Leaptus tentaclas
Chestburster
-Serpent
Drone
-Black dagger,black meat again, smooth headed freak
Warrior
-Everything(cept smooth headed freak),ridge headed freak
Predalien
-Lookalike Meat
Runner
-Ferrari Meat
Queen
-Giant black meat

I have a Queen.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: §niperhawk on Nov 11, 2007, 05:17:56 PM
im going to go with...dead ;D
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: CanadianHero67 on Nov 19, 2007, 02:12:06 AM
Quote from: §niperhawk on Nov 11, 2007, 05:17:56 PM
im going to go with...dead ;D
Yeah, nothing but skulless corpses. :)
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Xhan on Nov 19, 2007, 07:16:06 AM
BS Name #1

Kainde Amedha:  Hard Meat

BS Name #2

Linguafoeda Acheronsis: Strange Foreboding tongue of Acheron

Actual Name:

Internacivus Raptus: Murderous (Fratricide) life thief from within.

Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Two-Stripes on Nov 19, 2007, 09:37:17 AM
"BS Name #1

Kainde Amedha:  Hard Meat

BS Name #2

Linguafoeda Acheronsis: Strnage Forebodign tongue of Acheron

Actual Name:

Internacivus Raptus: Murderous (Fratricide) life thief from within."

:-\

....ok.
i'm gonna pretend you didn't post this.

Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: maledoro on Nov 19, 2007, 11:40:44 AM
Quote from: Xhan on Nov 19, 2007, 07:16:06 AM
Internacivus Raptus: Murderous (Fratricide) life thief from within.
Can be considered "BS Name #3". It was created by either the marketing department or the art department of Fox. Since there were no scientists who had studied the aliens and lived. Thus, very little (if any) information would make it back to the scientific community for peer review (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_review). If any scientist or scientists call the alien internecivus raptus, it would still be an unofficial label at best.

If anything, linguafoeda acheronsis would be a more specific description of the aliens, as internecivus raptus could apply to any creature.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Xhan on Nov 19, 2007, 05:43:01 PM
If they do it in movie, unless there's an intervening factor it's the name used. Their OFFICIAL name is Alien obviously.

Name derived for absolute canon > magical made up name for EU. It doesn't have to subject to peer review, as there are names now for custom biological agents and theoretical biological components which for commercial or military apllications won't be getting any kind review any time in the near future, but still retain a linnaen style nomenclature for purposes of indentification.

I don't see you calling them Star Beasts even though that's technically the originating name.

Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: maledoro on Nov 20, 2007, 02:49:38 AM
Quote from: Xhan on Nov 19, 2007, 05:43:01 PM
Their OFFICIAL name is Alien obviously.
They have no official name.

Quote from: Xhan on Nov 19, 2007, 05:43:01 PM
Name derived for absolute canon > magical made up name for EU. It doesn't have to subject to peer review, as there are names now for custom biological agents and theoretical biological components which for commercial or military apllications won't be getting any kind review any time in the near future, but still retain a linnaen style nomenclature for purposes of indentification.
They're all patent names and not things we'd see as taxonomical labels.

Quote from: Xhan on Nov 19, 2007, 05:43:01 PM
I don't see you calling them Star Beasts even though that's technically the originating name.
I don't see the crew of the Snark calling them that, either.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 03:18:34 AM

QuoteThey have no official name.

I'm talking OoU.

Quotepatent names

And? If the Alien universe takes place in line with ours linnaen nomenclature won't even be relevant.

The mini-documentation presented in the Menus proves otherwise.

Quotetaxonomical labels

Really? Which movie was that in? The one with the guys form Twurp's Peerage having a rousing talk about naming the wee beasties?

Internacivus Raptus describes the crowning achievment that made audiences fully understand this movie was going to be a bit different.

Linguafoeda Acheronsis literally means strangely bewildering obscene language from the River of Woeful existance in Epirus.

Nope.







Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: maledoro on Nov 20, 2007, 12:03:05 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 03:18:34 AM
I'm talking OoU.
I know.

Quote from: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 03:18:34 AM
And? If the Alien universe takes place in line with ours linnaen nomenclature won't even be relevant.
Of course it would.

Quote from: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 03:18:34 AM
The mini-documentation presented in the Menus proves otherwise.
You seem to have confused the silly whims of the art department with someone who had a hand on the making of the films.

Quote from: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 03:18:34 AM
Quotetaxonomical labels
Really? Which movie was that in? The one with the guys form Twurp's Peerage having a rousing talk about naming the wee beasties?
Where did I say that it was part of a movie?

Quote from: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 03:18:34 AM
Internacivus Raptus describes the crowning achievment that made audiences fully understand this movie was going to be a bit different.
It also describes any animal that steals and destroys; like the kitty cats in your sig banner.

Quote from: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 03:18:34 AM
Linguafoeda Acheronsis literally means strangely bewildering obscene language from the River of Woeful existance in Epirus.
That is if you only take a figurative translation of the word "linguafoeda" instead of the literal meaning, and if you are under the deluded impression that LV-426 is located in Greece.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 12:13:01 PM
Quotesilly whims

hahaha... you obviously don't have a clue how much money and manpower was leveraged. This is Fox. Everything given to AQ and NOT given to AvPR is deliberate, as with the inclusion of the Nostromo files in legacy.

QuoteOf course it would.

Must have missed the last couple of years then, as LN is on its way out the door, and held onto mostly by old school biologists and archaeologists.

Quotemovie

Which is why it's your opinion at best.

It describes a FRATRICIDAL thief who steals life FROM WITHIN. Rather apt considering GR and LC.

on the otherhand DH's now as of John Shirley and the Reboot defunct Mangulation of latin doesn't even track because the wrong forms are used, A nor is it even spelled correctly, B and completely lacks context, C.



Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: maledoro on Nov 20, 2007, 12:37:19 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 12:13:01 PM
hahaha... you obviously don't have a clue how much money and manpower was leveraged. This is Fox. Everything given to AQ and NOT given to AvPR is deliberate, as with the inclusion of the Nostromo files in legacy.
I am aware of the money and manpower involved. What you don't realize is how gullible you are. If the art department decided to call the aliens "Fuzzy Wuzzy Kitty Cats" would you blindly accept it?

Quote from: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 12:13:01 PM
Must have missed the last couple of years then, as LN is on its way out the door, and held onto mostly by old school biologists and archaeologists.
It hasn't been rejected by anyone but those who are willing to try to win an argument.

Quote from: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 12:13:01 PM
It describes a FRATRICIDAL thief who steals life FROM WITHIN. Rather apt considering GR and LC.
internecine from L. internecinus "very deadly, murderous, destructive," from internecare "kill or destroy," from inter- (q.v.) + necare "kill." Considered in the OED as misinterpreted in Johnson's Dictionary [1755], which defined it as "endeavouring mutual destruction," on association of inter- with "mutual" when the prefix supposedly is used in this case as an intensive.

raptus, pp. of rapere "seize, carry off" (see rapid).

Compare to:
lingua [L] "tongue," also "speech, language"

foedus, foeda, foedum: "ugly, foul, loathsome"

Quote from: Xhan on Nov 20, 2007, 12:13:01 PM
on the otherhand DH's now as of John Shirley and the Reboot defunct Mangulation of latin doesn't even track because the wrong forms are used, A nor is it even spelled correctly, B and completely lacks context, C.
Which pales in comparison to your mangling of Latin, Greek and English.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Kriszilla on Nov 20, 2007, 05:00:59 PM
The predators would call them

Oohf**kithinkijustshatmypantsthatthingisscaryashell raptus
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: brad873 on Nov 20, 2007, 05:54:01 PM
click click clicks
dick heads
hoochy
the jackson 5s
death bloods
hunters hunter
night death
shadows
squeelers
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Chrysalis on May 19, 2009, 08:29:36 PM
I belive they call them "Hard Meat". There is a name for them in predator, but i can't get at it right now, but I will post it soon.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: The PredBen on May 19, 2009, 08:53:57 PM
Jesus this thread is old. Anyway they are just aliens. There is no set name. All of it is a guessing work. And the Predators may simply call them aliens , as we do , Predators may call us aliens , since we are to them and they are to us. Oh and oomans is the worst name I've ever heard , warhammer orcs call people that sometimes.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Chrysalis on May 20, 2009, 06:35:39 AM
I have found the website.

Human in pred is Ooman/Soft Meat.

And Alien in pred is Kainde Amedha/Hard Meat.

If you want to view the site, it is here: http://www.geocities.com/anrkist645/
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Awgustas on May 20, 2009, 08:52:41 AM
They name them 'hard meat'.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Kriszilla on May 20, 2009, 09:20:38 AM
Predators would call Aliens OH SHI-

Seriously, though, I don't think it matters that much. Trying to come up with all this stuff to add on to the mysterious predator race just humanises them and makes them boring.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: predator55 on May 26, 2009, 02:21:08 AM
I think the predator calls humans Ooman meaning like soft  meat and aliens kainde meaning hard meat from memory!  :P
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: The Demon on May 26, 2009, 02:26:10 AM
How about "dead"
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: LSP on Feb 25, 2010, 12:15:07 AM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Nov 07, 2007, 04:48:00 PM
Maybe they called them "Internecivus raptus". In the Alien Quadrilogy DVD identifies the scientific name of the Xenomorph race.

Can anyone give me exactly where this is? I'm working on a master's dissertation and I'd like to use something other than "xenomorph" and "alien". I need the proper references to use a name like this tough so where in the movie or under what special feature does this appear (minute, etc.)?

TIA
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: SM on Feb 25, 2010, 01:28:32 AM
It's on the menu screens from memory.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Bevo2506 on Feb 25, 2010, 03:46:37 AM
*Serpents*   as refered to the new release AVP game by rebellion   when you play as the Predator they call the Aliens  *Serpents* alot  nuthing else
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: keylight-di on Feb 25, 2010, 05:45:02 AM
Kaindhe Amedha, of course!

Joke... ;)

What a dangerous thread...
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Navaha on Feb 25, 2010, 05:54:55 AM
I actually like Kaindhe Amedha, even if the meaning behind it is stupid. :P
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: keylight-di on Feb 25, 2010, 06:08:10 AM
It's not stupid, I like this name too... I like it very much...

But it's so not canonical... ;D
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: #6.0 on Feb 25, 2010, 06:39:03 AM
Serpents, hard meat, the ultimate prey....
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: keylight-di on Feb 25, 2010, 06:49:20 AM
Serpents it's the most absurd name, I ever heard. ;D I know, it is used in movies and games. But, for God's sake ...
Serpents don't have legs? Either something is wrong with me... ;D
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Space Sweeper on Feb 25, 2010, 06:57:15 AM
Sangheili.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Xenomrph on Feb 25, 2010, 11:18:17 AM
Quote from: Bevo2506 on Feb 25, 2010, 03:46:37 AM
*Serpents*   as refered to the new release AVP game by rebellion   when you play as the Predator they call the Aliens  *Serpents* alot  nuthing else
I think the Predator's page in the manual calls them something else, too. I'll have to double-check to be sure.
The "serpents" name makes sense, although it makes you wonder how much of the old languages in 'AvP' were therefore apparently derived from the Predator written language - Sebastian translates the writings on the wall in the temple, but we're assuming that it was actually written by human hands. Being a Predator temple, it might have been Predator writing in some capacity.
Then again, they see naturally in infrared, so written word as we use it (visible in "normal" light) wouldn't work. Carved writing could work, assuming they read it like Braille or whatever.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: keylight-di on Feb 25, 2010, 11:51:47 AM
Not so sure. Curving letters has a bit different temperature than background. There is visible difference between temperatures. So it's possible IMHO to read it in infrared. Question is: how sensitive is their sight. No doubt much more, than human's lame instruments. ;) We shouldn't compare it, I think.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: MadassAlex on Feb 25, 2010, 11:56:19 AM
"Serpent" isn't such a bad term. It's true that serpents do not have limbs, but the term "serpent" is also associated with draconic imagery and the entire concept of an ultimate adversary. For Predators, both approaches to the term "serpent" are really appropriate.

I think the new AvP game has an animation where, as a Predator, you can rip out an Alien's inner jaw and collect it as a trophy. That concept goes back to medieval times and beyond, when legends spoke of knights who would collect the tongues of great monsters to prove that they had slain them, most notably dragons.

If the Aliens are indeed the ultimate prey of the Predators, then giving them serpentine connotations is entirely appropriate.

Perhaps it would also be appropriate to not make the Aliens the whipping boys of the next franchise outing, too.  :-\
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: OmegaZilla on Feb 25, 2010, 12:02:06 PM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Feb 25, 2010, 11:56:19 AM
I think the new AvP game has an animation where, as a Predator, you can rip out an Alien's inner jaw and collect it as a trophy.
Directly referencing Alien: Resurrection. A souvenir!  ;D
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: keylight-di on Feb 25, 2010, 12:09:01 PM
Thank you, Alex, it was very interesting explanations. So I can agree on name "serpents" now. IMHO Xenos are ultimate prey of the Predators. But more like challenge. It's not only prey, it's proof, that they are more perfect than death. In this moment, of course.  ;)  Otherwise everything would be meaningless. :-\

Depth. ;)
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Darkfox426 on Feb 25, 2010, 12:42:28 PM
Well, just so that I add something more to the debate so that it doesn't stand so still ;) a note: the hieroglyphs and inscriptions read by Sebastian were most likely written by humans, and it sounds more like a mythology of the humans - thus using terms and language understandable to humans. Most of all, it is in Egyptian/Aztec/whatnot, so Sebastian can read it. He reads the term as "serpent", it is probably a word for serpent in one of the three languages, but of course, that is just as close as one can guess. And of course, we do not know anything for sure - Sebastian lives in the 21st century, he reads according to what he had learned somewhere in the university. People of "that age" might have as well read the thing completely differently... (And the symbol became used for "serpent" only later on. Also, no idea how many different symbols that alphabet had - they could have had the same symbol for, for example, serpent, dragon, lizard, even eel or something, and alien... simply, things which looked alike to them enough to use the same word for that. Although it is still quite possible that it was simply "serpents". Note: "GREAT serpents", that is. Anyway, figurative meaning. They never saw anything like that before so they likened it to what they knew and used the same word for it.)
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: keylight-di on Feb 25, 2010, 01:36:21 PM
I think, you made good point and I think it's obvious.
Every time, when we talk about different culture, we have to use ony our own view of reality. Only our eyes, looking at it.
This is why we still argue about words "honor" or "sport", which are supposed to describe Preds behaviour. This is, why still can't agree about relation between Preds and Xenos. Translation from ancient language it's almost so difficult as talking with alien species. Nothing is similar, no common experiences. When we talk about simple thing, for example senses using to perception of the world, we always have to use our, human's meaning. We always have to look at it thru our significative prism. And this fact doubtless deforms our perception.
When we talk about alien species, no matter which, we have to use words similar to our world. So we have "crab-like", "reptile-like" etc. descriptions.
If Sebastian was using the word "serpent", my first reaction was "wait a minute, they have limbs!" because this word for me means "snake". Funny, but as foreigner, I have my vocabulary very limited . And this is exactly this same situation. This is great example, how to talk with alien. Patiently. ;)
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Feb 25, 2010, 02:16:33 PM
QuotePeople of "that age" might have as well read the thing completely differently

Totally right point, I agree. But on this matter I think can not be count. As long as the pyramid is destroyed and no one else has a picture of the hieroglyphs Sebastian was reading, it cannot be a matter of any research, so no matter what, for this time being the serpent expression is the only one we can refer to aliens if we want to use the 'language' of those who built the pyramid. It doesn't have to accepted, but as long as there's no picture of those hieroglyphs they can be 'serpents' in that languagae (or some made up name if one thinks the translation of Seb was wrong).

Quotemost likely written by humans, and it sounds more like a mythology of the humans - thus using terms and language understandable to humans.

I think it's very important. Those are human hieroglyphs. Human language, using a human word to those creatures. Why should preds use the same expression?

QuoteI think the new AvP game has an animation where, as a Predator, you can rip out an Alien's inner jaw and collect it as a trophy. That concept goes back to medieval times and beyond, when legends spoke of knights who would collect the tongues of great monsters to prove that they had slain them, most notably dragons.

I don't see the connection, sorry. These legends stands for humans and for medieval ages. Why would it mean anything to predators, or their language according to aliens? Similar rhytes (this time the taking of the inner jaw) and their subjects run by different names in human cultures. And dragons were feared/ respected in many different forms from Irealnd to the far east, and there were so many ways of think about/ worshipping them (Greeks thought about some of monsters and sons of Earth itself, or sons of the gods). But even with this why would preds refer to aliens with that term? I'm not bugging you, please don't think that, but I don't see the connection. Can you make it clear for me?

By the way I think preds have a common word for aliens, but they use it rarely. I think every clan (and every individual) has a different expression (not necessarily a word, it can be a gesture or  click) for the most deadly prey in the universe.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: EatWheat on Feb 25, 2010, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 25, 2010, 06:57:15 AM
Sangheili.
Nice refrence to halo lol
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: MadassAlex on Feb 25, 2010, 02:29:27 PM
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Feb 25, 2010, 02:16:33 PM
I don't see the connection, sorry. These legends stands for humans and for medieval ages. Why would it mean anything to predators, or their language according to aliens? Similar rhytes (this time the taking of the inner jaw) and their subjects run by different names in human cultures. And dragons were feared/ respected in many different forms from Irealnd to the far east, and there were so many ways of think about/ worshipping them (Greeks thought about some of monsters and sons of Earth itself, or sons of the gods). But even with this why would preds refer to aliens with that term? I'm not bugging you, please don't think that, but I don't see the connection. Can you make it clear for me?

Predators are fictional creatures created by a human mind. Attributing the term "serpents" to their most respected adversaries is a break-the-forth-wall-without-anyone-noticing way of giving the Predators a sort of cohesion with legends of great human warriors.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Feb 25, 2010, 02:40:35 PM
I see that. But it doesn't explains me how would this link between ancient heroes and preds would mean preds call the aliens serpents, just because humans did. It could be that the word serpent is based on the pronunciation of the preds' word to the alien, but I don't think so. Erm, sorry for misunderstanding, but I still don't see it :-\
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: keylight-di on Feb 25, 2010, 02:45:06 PM
Yeyinde! I have nothing smart to say, I just wanna tell you - I love your new avatar!! :D
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Feb 25, 2010, 02:48:15 PM
Oh, thanks a lot! :D :D :D
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: keylight-di on Feb 25, 2010, 02:53:41 PM
Anytime....


;D ;D

I can't resist, I love this ugly m**f**er... ;D
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: MadassAlex on Feb 25, 2010, 02:55:45 PM
Officially, Predator speech is probably incomprehensible to us. So their word for it isn't literally "serpent".

But it's translated to us as "serpent" due to the connotations it holds.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Navaha on Feb 25, 2010, 02:59:10 PM
Quote from: 08yeyinde on Feb 25, 2010, 02:40:35 PM
I see that. But it doesn't explains me how would this link between ancient heroes and preds would mean preds call the aliens serpents, just because humans did. It could be that the word serpent is based on the pronunciation of the preds' word to the alien, but I don't think so. Erm, sorry for misunderstanding, but I still don't see it :-\

I don't think anyone was implying Predators called them Serpents. Serpent was probably a human based name for them based on the fact that ancient people probably would have thought they were some sort of dragon.

Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 25, 2010, 06:57:15 AM
Sangheili.

Meddler! This outbreak must be contained!
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Feb 25, 2010, 03:03:53 PM
Well, I must be really a stupid mofo not to get it first. So you mean the word itself isn't important, just the way preds fight with aliens, which can be refered to humans as serpents, because some of their legendary warriors fought just like the same (thus they can be connected to preds) from the past? Did you mean this? I thought you're trying to make a point why preds would use that word. I'm... ashamed. Sorry. :-\

QuoteI don't think anyone was implying Predators called them Serpents. Serpent was probably a human based name for them based on the fact that ancient people probably would have thought they were some sort of dragon.

That's what I didn't see. Stupid, careless mistake. Sorry for the trouble. :(
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: MadassAlex on Feb 25, 2010, 03:52:17 PM
Yep, that's it.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Pretorian on Feb 25, 2010, 05:02:08 PM

I think it's called hard meat because aliens are the ultimate prey for preds.  That or serpents.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Lie on Feb 25, 2010, 07:07:42 PM
Predators call Xenomorphs... Billy
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: LSP on Feb 25, 2010, 11:37:56 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 25, 2010, 01:28:32 AM
It's on the menu screens from memory.

Oh, thanks. Doubt it's on my Definitive edition but I think I can get away with being vague if it's on a menu.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Bevo2506 on Feb 26, 2010, 01:01:55 AM
Also In the film AVP when that chick and guy (cant remember the name of them) was trapped behind the stone wall and the pred on the other side...and while they guy is breaking down his theory of whats going on he calls them serpents as well....but hes a human not a pred tho.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: theyde on Feb 27, 2010, 05:00:23 AM
 :) As far as I remember - there was a term in Yautja language - Kainde Amedha - "hard/tough meat"... in other places I saw the term "the great serpents" to be used too... (and sorry for repeating the statements above XD)
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Lil Theo on Feb 27, 2010, 05:55:27 PM
Kiande Amedha is the Yautja equivalent of Xenomorph.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Crabface on Feb 27, 2010, 11:44:34 PM
In the Steve Perry books the aliens are known as hard meat, although since the AVP movie the new games have been labeling them serpents.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: The Demon on Mar 06, 2010, 08:14:48 PM
Where did all these Yautja mythos and terms ever come from anyways?

I refer to them as Predator because that's what they are called in the movies. I have never heard them call them Yautja in any movie.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Mar 06, 2010, 08:40:40 PM
the novels, specifically, Steve Perry's. i think they are bullshit, but thats me.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: huntin8-t0n on Mar 06, 2010, 08:49:30 PM
It comes from the books. I think they are ok in some terms. In some they are not.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: ShadowStalker on Mar 06, 2010, 09:32:33 PM
Well maybe they dont have a specific name at all, maybe its like "Oh damn its the black as night creature!!! argh!!"
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Quick N Slick on Mar 07, 2010, 12:21:40 AM
What would they call them?

Big game, is my guess. I'm a biased Pred fan, so maybe I would say, "cannon-fodder" ;)
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: ShadowStalker on Mar 07, 2010, 09:13:58 PM
Lol cannon-fodder eh?
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: keylight-di on Mar 07, 2010, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: Quick N Slick on Mar 07, 2010, 12:21:40 AM
What would they call them?

Big game, is my guess. I'm a biased Pred fan, so maybe I would say, "cannon-fodder" ;)

Nope. This name is reserved by the Strauss Brothers.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Xhan on Mar 07, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
Lord and Master.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: ShadowStalker on Mar 07, 2010, 09:44:36 PM
Quote from: keylight-di on Mar 07, 2010, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: Quick N Slick on Mar 07, 2010, 12:21:40 AM
What would they call them?

Big game, is my guess. I'm a biased Pred fan, so maybe I would say, "cannon-fodder" ;)

Nope. This name is reserved by the Strauss Brothers.

Damn Strauss brothers...*Raises trusty boom stick!*
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Quick N Slick on Mar 08, 2010, 04:24:21 AM
Quote from: ShadowStalker on Mar 07, 2010, 09:13:58 PM
Lol cannon-fodder eh?

The very best Preds, yes.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: EarthHive on Mar 08, 2010, 04:42:40 AM
What would a Predator call an Alien?

Slobbery stinky face.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Lie on Mar 08, 2010, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: ShadowStalker on Mar 07, 2010, 09:44:36 PM
Quote from: keylight-di on Mar 07, 2010, 09:25:29 PM
Quote from: Quick N Slick on Mar 07, 2010, 12:21:40 AM
What would they call them?

Big game, is my guess. I'm a biased Pred fan, so maybe I would say, "cannon-fodder" ;)

Nope. This name is reserved by the Strauss Brothers.

Damn Strauss brothers...*Raises trusty boom stick!*

Amen to that, the Strauss Brothers can and will burn in hell.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: locusta on Mar 08, 2010, 08:54:21 PM
Quote from: Xhan on Mar 07, 2010, 09:42:32 PM
Lord and Master.

:D :D :D

I lol my ass off!
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: ShadowStalker on Mar 08, 2010, 09:36:51 PM
Quote from: Quick N Slick on Mar 08, 2010, 04:24:21 AM
Quote from: ShadowStalker on Mar 07, 2010, 09:13:58 PM
Lol cannon-fodder eh?

The very best Preds, yes.

lol
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: The Demon on Mar 08, 2010, 09:56:25 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Mar 06, 2010, 08:40:40 PM
the novels, specifically, Steve Perry's. i think they are bullshit, but thats me.

No, I agree. I stick to the movies.
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: #6.0 on Mar 09, 2010, 01:23:53 AM
Quite honestly serpents is fantastic, but thats just me. of course they say it in their language, but it translates to serpents. 
Title: Re: What would a Predator call an Alien?
Post by: Navaha on Mar 09, 2010, 03:52:06 AM
Quote from: EarthHive on Mar 08, 2010, 04:42:40 AM
What would a Predator call an Alien?

Slobbery stinky face.

Sure they wouldn't call themselves that? :P