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Title: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 10, 2007, 12:46:33 PM
So the first line of A/P/AvP novels were all mostly novelizations of the comics. If DH Press were to start novelizing comics again, which Alien and Predator comics would you want to see novelized?

Personally, I wanna see Destroying Angels and Hell and Hot Water novelized.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Mar 10, 2007, 02:40:20 PM
Hell and Hot Water for sure. Nemesis as well.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Snore on Mar 10, 2007, 11:06:21 PM
I'd like to see the epic 10-Issue (cut down from an originally planned 12 because they kept changing writers) "Colonial Marines" comic get a shot at being a novel.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 10, 2007, 11:38:37 PM
What actually happens in that novel?
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: BrokenTusk on Mar 11, 2007, 01:37:07 AM
I wouldn't mind the 12 issue Deadliest of Species being novelized.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Snore on Mar 11, 2007, 06:12:26 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 10, 2007, 11:38:37 PM
What actually happens in that novel?

You mean the Comics?

A group of Marines on Punishment duty find themselves in a fight against a cult (where the members have modified their DNA with Royal Jelly) who are trying to spread their influence over their region of space.

4 Different writers covered this one. And you can tell where (apart from the credits) they change just simply on the abrupt spots where there's a change in narrative and emphasis on characters.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Mar 12, 2007, 02:45:18 PM
Quote from: BrokenTusk on Mar 11, 2007, 01:37:07 AM
I wouldn't mind the 12 issue Deadliest of Species being novelized.

I hated Deadliest of the Species.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: BrokenTusk on Mar 12, 2007, 04:48:37 PM
^ I only gave the first issue a 10 second glance, it look like a complicated alien and predator acid trip. exactly what's the story about ?
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: SM on Mar 13, 2007, 12:00:50 AM
Colonial Marines and Deadliest Of The Species.  Just to shed some light onto what the fark was going on.  Some of the stuff in Deadliest... struck me as unbelievably dumb - but I'd like to know if that was just me and I wasn't understanding it properly.  Same with Colonial Marines.  They never adaquately addressed the whole Father/ Kleist thing.

But then I hoped Labyrinth would tell us more clearly what Church was trying to do - and it didn't.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: BrokenTusk on Mar 13, 2007, 02:58:46 AM
can you tell me a bit more on DoS plz ?
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: SM on Mar 13, 2007, 03:13:29 AM
Been a long time since I read it, but it's set after the Alien sometime invasion of Earth and revolves around a trophy wife called Caryn Delacroix, who is haunted by dreams of a Predator and Ailens and someone or something called Ash Parnall.

She ends up joining up with the Predator (a female) and there's all sorts of stuff about buried identities and memories, and then they join up with a couple of soldiers and subsequently end up looking like rejects from a Boris Vallejo painting.  I'd have to read it again to see if it makes anymore sense - but it didn't make much sense the previous times I've read it.

As the above would indicate.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: BrokenTusk on Mar 13, 2007, 03:14:39 AM
thanks


SPOILER








doesn't she in the last issue turn into a alien hybrid ?
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: SM on Mar 13, 2007, 03:20:49 AM
SPOILERS









She doesn't no, but there is a Alien/ Predator/ human hybrid in it.  I think she's the host if memory serves - yet somehow survives.  As I said I'd have to read it again.  Must dig it out.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: BrokenTusk on Mar 13, 2007, 03:37:56 AM
seems like a real odd DH story.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: SM on Mar 13, 2007, 03:55:09 AM
Oh yes.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Snore on Mar 13, 2007, 05:47:18 AM
Quote from: SM on Mar 13, 2007, 12:00:50 AM
Same with Colonial Marines.  They never adaquately addressed the whole Father/ Kleist thing.

Another example of the shifting writer syndrome. I don't have anything against the constantly changing flow of the story, really, because each change was more like the space between an episode in a series that was just one arc (I wish I can shorten that.) Sure, a few characters vanish and suddenly Lt. Henry looks like Charlie Sheen. But I still enjoyed it.

DoS had one guy running the whole story there, so it's obvious that a little padding went a little too far there.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: SM on Mar 13, 2007, 06:03:04 AM
The incoherence of Colonial Marines wrecked the early potential.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: BrokenTusk on Mar 13, 2007, 08:25:46 PM
Kindred wouldn't be a bad story to transfer into a novel.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Snore on Mar 14, 2007, 01:21:08 AM
Quote from: BrokenTusk on Mar 13, 2007, 08:25:46 PM
Kindred wouldn't be a bad story to transfer into a novel.

I remember that one! I remember it was the only one where the Predator killed a kid. It's during the Predator attack on the Sherrif's Office when the lynch mob arrive, one of the bodies that came through the roof.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Yautja on Mar 15, 2007, 12:24:55 AM

Id like to see a novelisation of Cold War.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Xenoegg on Mar 15, 2007, 07:32:25 AM
Quote from: Yautja on Mar 15, 2007, 12:24:55 AM
Id like to see a novelisation of Cold War.

From Cold War,gives a Novel written by Nathan Archer .
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Yautja on Mar 15, 2007, 10:03:39 AM
Quote from: Xenoegg on Mar 15, 2007, 07:32:25 AM
From Cold War,gives a Novel written by Nathan Archer .

Thanks for letting me know. I never realised there was a novelisasation of Cold War.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 15, 2007, 10:13:02 AM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/literature.php?section=novelspredator
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: BrokenTusk on Mar 16, 2007, 02:15:36 AM
I like the summary of Predator: Homeworld though the art isn't too great, but the plot had an ancient Predator hunting 3 wreckless teens, who disobey their laws of the hunt. Brings a original idea to the formula.



*SPOILER*



I remember it was the only one where the Predator killed a kid. It's during the Predator attack on the Sherrif's Office when the lynch mob arrive, one of the bodies that came through the roof.

did he ? The only kid I could think of was the main character who eventually grows into a adult and has his own family, I don't recall the Predator killing any children. I know the hunter has his eye on the serial killer, but that's all.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Snore on Mar 16, 2007, 10:00:12 PM
Quote from: BrokenTusk on Mar 16, 2007, 02:15:36 AM
did he ? The only kid I could think of was the main character who eventually grows into a adult and has his own family, I don't recall the Predator killing any children. I know the hunter has his eye on the serial killer, but that's all.

Well, looking at it now. I'm not sure, the way he's drawn makes him look like Buddy-Age 9. (This is the frame with "George, no, don't!" as George is bending over the bodies that just came through the roof. The alleged child is the one on the bottom.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: BrokenTusk on Mar 17, 2007, 02:13:52 AM

*Spoiler*






I have to read it again I suppose, the hunter freeing the serial killer was an intresting twist.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Pax on Mar 23, 2007, 11:34:11 PM
Deadliest of the Species was awesome, though it does wander a bit toward the end.  Everytime I read it, I understand a little bit more of what's going on.  I don't think it make a good novel though, due to it's length.  Then again, with its length, they wouldn't have to add anything else in...

The same goes for the Labyrinth novel/series, though neither really ends up telling you exactly what's going on.

After Xenogenesis, I kinda fell off the Aliens/Predators bandwagon for a while, but Destroying Angels would be badass in book form, I've no doubt.

-Pax
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Mar 24, 2007, 11:54:59 PM
Quote from: Pax on Mar 23, 2007, 11:34:11 PM
After Xenogenesis, I kinda fell off the Aliens/Predators bandwagon for a while, but Destroying Angels would be badass in book form, I've no doubt.

Damn right. Let me have a DA novel please.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Mar 25, 2007, 05:16:59 PM
Quote from: Pax on Mar 23, 2007, 11:34:11 PM
Deadliest of the Species was awesome, though it does wander a bit toward the end.  Everytime I read it, I understand a little bit more of what's going on.  I don't think it make a good novel though, due to it's length.  Then again, with its length, they wouldn't have to add anything else in...

The same goes for the Labyrinth novel/series, though neither really ends up telling you exactly what's going on.

After Xenogenesis, I kinda fell off the Aliens/Predators bandwagon for a while, but Destroying Angels would be badass in book form, I've no doubt.

-Pax

DOTS sucked majorly. Xenogensis rocked.  ;D
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: SM on Mar 26, 2007, 12:53:03 AM
I just re-read DOTS for the umpteenth time.  It made a bit more sense.  Though not much.  And some bits (Caryn hooting around in the classic car/ silly in-jokes like calling the Predator ship 'Ellen Ripley') are still just mindboggingly stupid.

Also re-read Colonial Marines.  Still mostly incoherent.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Extroheal on Apr 01, 2007, 05:57:56 AM
The problem with Destroying Angels is that it's set between Alien and Aliens and it mentions that Weyland-Yutani went to the Derelict and got some eggs, although the movie Aliens implies that they forgot all about the Derelict and only found out about it from Ripley.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: SM on Apr 01, 2007, 11:51:40 PM
I don't think the Derelict in that comic was the same as the LV-426 one...?
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 01, 2007, 11:52:49 PM
The one at the start? It's one they found floating in space if I remember rightly.
Title: Re: Novelizing the Comics?
Post by: Extroheal on Apr 02, 2007, 11:27:58 AM
Yes I know it's a different Derelict but in the first issue it's briefly mentioned that WY went back to the LV-426 Derelict. It's this knowledge that leads that rogue scientist to find the second Derelict. In the course of the story it's discovered that WY smuggled some alien eggs on the main characters' ship in an attempt to sabotage their expedition.