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Title: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: RidgeTop on Jul 19, 2023, 05:54:04 PM
(https://cdn.marvel.com/content/1x/alienann2023001_cvr.jpg)

https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/alien-annual-1-xenomorph-war-declan-shalvey-danny-earls

"Alien vs. Alien: Pity the Xeno! A Xenomorph queen and her hive descend on a dark world. As always, they're eager to eliminate any species they encounter and stand poised to overrun this planet like they have so many others. Until the native life fights back..."
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized One-Shot Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Engineer on Jul 19, 2023, 06:38:36 PM
Interesting... I thought this would be "annual #2"
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized One-Shot Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Hdhfh on Jul 19, 2023, 06:38:57 PM
Honestly Tawn is Bad, human's face is cartoonish even if the aliens are really great (color kill them, black and white is so much better) and story isn't interesting at all.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized One-Shot Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 19, 2023, 07:45:40 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Jul 19, 2023, 06:38:36 PMInteresting... I thought this would be "annual #2"

I think annuals are always branded as #1s. Wonky system, for sure, but it seems to be the one in place.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized One-Shot Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Engineer on Jul 19, 2023, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 19, 2023, 07:45:40 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Jul 19, 2023, 06:38:36 PMInteresting... I thought this would be "annual #2"

I think annuals are always branded as #1s. Wonky system, for sure, but it seems to be the one in place.
I have an old spider man annual numbered as #27...
But maybe they've changed things up in the last decade or two...
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: jacobo1122 on Jul 20, 2023, 07:30:39 PM
I don't know, I never was big on Xenon vs. Xenos fights. It just doesn't match for me that perfect organisms that are supposed to be masters in preventing species' survival would be killing each other. Plus rivalization within species is something normal in nature and for me more alien and creepy is concept that XX121s are all connected somehow by maybe Queen Mother or other super hive Mind and will always cooperate with each other. I have no problem with XX121s fighting with pathogen Creatures or bio-enginered Xenomorphs, but I really don't like those hive wars and Xenos Fighting with Xenos that came from different hosts. That said, I'm enjoying Shalvey's ongoing run so far, and even with me not liking a concept, Genocide was fun read, so I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 21, 2023, 07:51:52 AM
This seems to say that the Aliens from Thaw are something different which hasn't been the vibe I've been getting reading the series. I still need to dig into #4 though, so maybe there's something in there.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Sabres21768 on Jul 25, 2023, 11:57:33 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 21, 2023, 07:51:52 AMThis seems to say that the Aliens from Thaw are something different which hasn't been the vibe I've been getting reading the series. I still need to dig into #4 though, so maybe there's something in there.
Well, the 2 Xenos that were born in the issue were definitely different for some reason, although I haven't seen a reason for that yet.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Engineer on Jul 26, 2023, 05:06:16 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Jul 25, 2023, 11:57:33 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 21, 2023, 07:51:52 AMThis seems to say that the Aliens from Thaw are something different which hasn't been the vibe I've been getting reading the series. I still need to dig into #4 though, so maybe there's something in there.
Well, the 2 Xenos that were born in the issue were definitely different for some reason, although I haven't seen a reason for that yet.

They look more adapted for aquatic environments (I.e., a fin instead of a blade for the tip of the tail).
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 13, 2023, 07:54:38 AM
https://twitter.com/declanshalvey/status/1701644600861978811
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 29, 2023, 01:32:20 PM
https://twitter.com/dannyearls16/status/1707479055170179445
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on Sep 29, 2023, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 29, 2023, 01:32:20 PMhttps://twitter.com/dannyearls16/status/1707479055170179445

Loving the look of this one! 😃
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 06, 2023, 07:21:49 AM
Despite how much I loved the looks of some of the previews, this one didn't work for me. Wasn't a fan of the art in this. The native creatures looked far too large for what the story was trying to accomplish which seemed to imply to me
Spoiler
that they were actually infected by some Huggers being eaten???
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I like the concept of the conflict between the 2 different breeds, so to speak. Not quite Genocide in the way that depicted as 2 different whole strains, but there's precedence for violence between different Aliens from different hosts in AvPR.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: chromhart on Oct 06, 2023, 07:47:12 AM
I did not like this comic. It looked amaturish.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: SiL on Oct 06, 2023, 08:03:58 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 06, 2023, 07:21:49 AMthere's precedence for violence between different Aliens from different hosts in AvPR.
The PredAlien whacks an Alien aside to impregnate the homeless woman, but otherwise the human Aliens spend the film protecting the PredAlien because it's a juvenile Queen/fertile from Predators/whatever the hell someone thought of when asked.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on Oct 06, 2023, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 06, 2023, 07:21:49 AMDespite how much I loved the looks of some of the previews, this one didn't work for me. Wasn't a fan of the art in this. The native creatures looked far too large for what the story was trying to accomplish which seemed to imply to me
Spoiler
that they were actually infected by some Huggers being eaten???
[close]

I like the concept of the conflict between the 2 different breeds, so to speak. Not quite Genocide in the way that depicted as 2 different whole strains, but there's precedence for violence between different Aliens from different hosts in AvPR.

Yeah, they definitely showed very selective panels in the preview - panels which I think they knew is what most of us wanted to see in a comic... except this wasn't representative of what the comic was like at all. 😢


EDIT: as a side note, even without the benefit of being an artist, having writing experience, or film making experience,  I can't help but feel that many of us in the community here could churn out better quality Alien media that what we get from official releases - they just don't seem to *get* it 😅 Remind me, what are the legal rules on fan projects @Corporal Hicks ? (as in what fans are allowed to create before invoking the wrath of the mouse? I seem to recall several projects getting cease and desists in the past).
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 07, 2023, 02:09:24 PM
https://twitter.com/dannyearls16/status/1710612682850652528
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: jacobo1122 on Oct 08, 2023, 12:08:26 PM
I haven't "read" it yet, just glanced over some panels on internet, and I'll admit I'm not so big on that one. I never liked idea that Aliens that came from different host attack other Xenos. They still came from the same hive after all. But art looks nice. Also creature getting infected by swallowing facehuggers? It's weird, but interesting, it something that was always bothering me, how are Aliens supposed to infect bigger Creatures, or ones with weird jaws? Recepty Dark Descent came with its own explanation, and here their made their own, and I'm okay with that. Also Facehuggers injecting genetic material instead of embyro makes thar more plausible.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Acid_Reign161 on Oct 08, 2023, 05:23:33 PM
Quote from: jacobo1122 on Oct 08, 2023, 12:08:26 PMI haven't "read" it yet, just glanced over some panels on internet, and I'll admit I'm not so big on that one. I never liked idea that Aliens that came from different host attack other Xenos. They still came from the same hive after all. But art looks nice. Also creature getting infected by swallowing facehuggers? It's weird, but interesting, it something that was always bothering me, how are Aliens supposed to infect bigger Creatures, or ones with weird jaws? Recepty Dark Descent came with its own explanation, and here their made their own, and I'm okay with that. Also Facehuggers injecting genetic material instead of embyro makes thar more plausible.

Yup, it's makes zero sense that xenos of different hosts fight, considering Alien 3 clearly demonstrated a xeno from a dog/ox host protecting the queen of a human host.

My personal take on how facehuggers attach to larger species is that they adapt to the prey. In alien 3, we see a regular hugger on the Sulaco, but in the assembly cut, the prisoner picks up the carcass of a superfacehugger (larger, darker coloured, webbed legs, armoured). I theorise that like a chestburster sheds its skin to grow into an adult, a facehugger may be able to do the same to attach to larger prey (eg; an ox). The webbed legs could also be explained as an environmental adaptation, since the EEV was partially submerged in the sea, it may have had to swim.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Still Collating... on Oct 08, 2023, 11:04:15 PM
Read it. Like that Marvel is trying experimental stuff. They should feel free to do it like Dark Horse did. This was a brave choice and I support that. The story was ok. The impregnation method was weird but I liked it. The art wasn't bad, but the art was better in the full series. And with little story and no dialog, the art has to do all the heavy lifting. The action could've been plotted better. Why would hives fight is always a question, but if they were separated by distance or something, that would be okay. But here things go so fast, you don't have a clear timeline of the action and the time for the hives to grow.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 09, 2023, 09:26:06 AM
Quote from: Still Collating... on Oct 08, 2023, 11:04:15 PMBut here things go so fast, you don't have a clear timeline of the action and the time for the hives to grow.

I had the same thought as well. We could do with some setting suns or shifting snow patterns or melts or something, just to denote some further time.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: jacobo1122 on Oct 09, 2023, 12:25:59 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 09, 2023, 09:26:06 AM
Quote from: Still Collating... on Oct 08, 2023, 11:04:15 PMBut here things go so fast, you don't have a clear timeline of the action and the time for the hives to grow.

I had the same thought as well. We could do with some setting suns or shifting snow patterns or melts or something, just to denote some further time.

Yeah, from what I saw, I think the intention was to much time passing between some panels, but artist just didn't make it very clear. Then again, in the main series "shrimp aliens" had faster growth rate, or it was just a little bending to fit a story.
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 18, 2023, 05:52:46 AM
https://twitter.com/dannyearls16/status/1714337235225493555
Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Xiggz456 on Oct 22, 2023, 03:52:27 PM
Finally got around to reading this one and definitely got a "Genocide" vibe from it with the warring Xeno variants. I enjoyed that the comic had absolutely no dialogue as we rarely have stories solely told through the art. Also liked that similar to the last Annual it was a prequel to the mainline series and gave us a backstory to why there were a whole slew of xenos frozen in ice. 

Spoiler
I can see some readers being confused with the large fauna eating facehuggers which still lead to impregnation, however, if we go by P. Praepotens lore then as soon as any of that sweet black goo touches organic tissue the Burster process begins. So I imagined by chewing a facehugger one would get an acid & accelerant one two punch! Ouch!
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Title: Re: New Marvel Double-Sized Comic Coming in October, Alien Annual #1
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 26, 2023, 11:17:28 AM
https://twitter.com/dannyearls16/status/1717490868804895158