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Title: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 18, 2023, 07:51:10 PM

Alien fan and animator Xing Republic (aka Henry Price) recently uploaded a brand new animated fan production to his YouTube channel, the brilliant David Attenborough visits LV-426! While Xing Republic might be best known to the Alien fandom for his upcoming animated project Alien: Vault of Heaven, he’s started to upload shorter animations in the meantime to keep Alien fans entertained!

Embark on an extraordinary journey into the depths of LV-426 with renowned naturalist David Attenborough as he leads a daring exploration team to uncover the enigmatic secrets of this alien world. Witness the wonders of advanced technology, encounter otherworldly landscapes, and delve into the mysteries that lie hidden in the farthest reaches of the cosmos.

After you’ve watched David Attenborough visits LV-426, be sure to also head on over to Xing Republic‘s YouTube channel and check out his other animated productions! Thanks to SpecialOrder935 for the heads-up!

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Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Darkness on Jun 19, 2023, 04:54:07 AM
Did they really get Attenborough to do voiceover or is it using voice stuff from previous footage?

He's a legend isn't he. I've still got Frozen Planet to watch.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 19, 2023, 05:24:13 AM
It's AI generated.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: El Diablo on Jun 19, 2023, 07:08:52 AM
That was awesome. Very well done.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Darkness on Jun 19, 2023, 09:04:47 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 19, 2023, 05:24:13 AMIt's AI generated.

Cripes. It's amazing what you can do with AI nowadays.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: oduodu on Jun 19, 2023, 10:59:36 AM
11 out  of 10.

excellent

anybody knows his work process?
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 19, 2023, 12:57:45 PM
If you've anything specific to ask, we're chatting to him tonight as the first part of what I hope to be a series highlighting fans working on fan productions.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jun 19, 2023, 01:17:31 PM
Wow :o  some really cool stuff

(https://i.ibb.co/ZTPW44Q/Screenshot-20230619-091434-You-Tube.jpg)
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: The Shuriken on Jun 20, 2023, 10:38:18 PM
An interesting idea. But is it ethical to use his voice if he's not (I assume) being compensated?
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: SiL on Jun 21, 2023, 11:20:13 AM
If it's ai trained on his voice without his permission, absolutely - and against TOC of most of those programs.

If it's an impersonator or carefully edited, fair game.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Eal on Jun 21, 2023, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: SiL on Jun 21, 2023, 11:20:13 AMIf it's ai trained on his voice without his permission, absolutely - and against TOC of most of those programs.

If it's an impersonator or carefully edited, fair game.

This could definitely be a copyright issue. It's not edited, it even sounds like Elevenlabs, actually. If you've used Elevenlabs or any subscription-based AI voice services, you can edit voices, though you're liable to be sued afaik if you ever try to use them. I dunno if anything will actually be done. Maybe it'll be allowed as long as there's an agreement reached and so long as D.A. gets a cut, or his estate gets the money. It's still technically his specific, individual voice-patterns that the AI is copying, so that'd make sense.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: SiL on Jun 21, 2023, 10:53:44 PM
I use Elevenlabs for my work sometimes. They explicitly say not to do what they've done.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Jun 22, 2023, 02:50:34 AM
That's hilarious, that is!  My word!
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: oduodu on Jun 22, 2023, 11:04:50 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 19, 2023, 12:57:45 PMIf you've anything specific to ask, we're chatting to him tonight as the first part of what I hope to be a series highlighting fans working on fan productions.

sorry corporal

didnt read that properly.

just curious as to how the ai actually makes the video. online service or a downloadable app etc etc.  thanks for asking. is it going to be a podcast?

again ty
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: SiL on Jun 22, 2023, 11:07:30 AM
AI doesn't make the video, just the voice.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: oduodu on Jun 22, 2023, 11:32:45 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jun 22, 2023, 11:07:30 AMAI doesn't make the video, just the voice.

ty

do you know what software he used for the video?  blender ? i mean the animation work?  that s damn well done.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 22, 2023, 11:44:59 AM
We've already recorded the episode and the software came up there. Without relistening, I think it was the Source engine? Source Movie Maker?
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: oduodu on Jun 22, 2023, 11:56:10 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 22, 2023, 11:44:59 AMWe've already recorded the episode and the software came up there. Without relistening, I think it was the Source engine? Source Movie Maker?
ty

it makes me wonder if something like that could be used to make a movie like an alternate version of prometheus etc.

even if its not graphically to the same standard as prometheus . the possibilities  are actually very enticing. that would make it possible to create your own take on a movie. or edit a movie the way you want it to be even if the added section s are obviously animation s added.

would be nice to see . so thst peope can actually show you what they would have wanted in the movie.

exciting prospects if the cost and time investment is cut to such an extent that most normal pc setups could with a decent graphic s card could be able to produce said content.

or are we still a ways off?

guess the ip owner s might have something about it if it becomes profitable.

hoping for a crowd funded re write of prometheus where the sj s and engineers are two different things.

Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 22, 2023, 02:09:11 PM
The thing with fan films and productions is they're not supposed to be for profit. So if you stick to that very basic tenant of fan film copyright, you're generally golden. Generally.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Bran96 on Jun 22, 2023, 06:22:40 PM
This is awesome
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 04, 2023, 04:30:07 PM
Our podcast with Henry is up! https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2023/07/04/animating-the-aliens-talking-to-fan-creator-henry-price-avp-galaxy-podcast-165/
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: GreybackElder on Jul 05, 2023, 10:07:42 PM
That was super interesting, thanks for the podcast! I do wonder how much of what he used is actually legal but it sounds like Mr. Price has a bright future in filmmaking.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: xShadowFoxX on Jul 06, 2023, 05:57:45 AM
As cool as it was, I was a little shocked at the usage of AI, with all the stigma against it. I'm not personally against it but shocking nonetheless.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: oduodu on Jul 06, 2023, 07:28:58 AM
blender unreal 5.2 source movie maker.

ok


vwey well done. hope he continues doing this. somwone needs to write him a script.

nice guy. very unasuming
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Jurassicvania on Jul 06, 2023, 12:14:19 PM
Can't have something so: take it? Is that what my favorite show gives voice to?

Not interested in thieves
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Still Collating... on Jul 06, 2023, 10:12:39 PM
It's a fan production. Non profit, just a funny video? No exploration, and I'm sure sir Attenborough is doing just fine financially... This ain't different than a lot of fan productions, it's just for fun. 
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Jurassicvania on Jul 08, 2023, 01:06:47 AM
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jul 06, 2023, 10:12:39 PMIt's a fan production. Non profit, just a funny video? No exploration, and I'm sure sir Attenborough is doing just fine financially... This ain't different than a lot of fan productions, it's just for fun. 

With respect,
- You can see in the code for his channel it is set up to be monetized, {"key":"is_monetization_enabled","value":"true"}, this isn't a default. Profit is not a factor.

- The title & description list David Attenborough, and has voice with very high quality likeness - and there has been no effort to mention in the in title, description, video, that it is generated.

- No credit is given to assets used (with or without permission) in: description or tags

-creators tags in the video #'s don't even list anything relating to generative, ai, parody, sources, but does list #ink and #drawing?

There was a decent amount of effort gone into the video and creator had to have expected there would be more than just a couple views, creator should add some due responsibility.


**edit: I don't mean to come across acidic
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: SiL on Jul 08, 2023, 09:32:17 AM
I agree @Jurassicvania . The lack of transparency is really disappointing.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: oduodu on Jul 08, 2023, 10:47:02 AM
i am sorry to hear that. i just wanted to say that i adore the video work done here.  the vibe of the whole thing was excellent . hellish damned ish if you will.

just hope that others may follow using this kind of work flow. 

hope it doesn t demean the work done here.

comparatively speaking where can i find video  s that is qualitatively visually speaking on the same level?

why is the audio such an issue but not the use of the alien and facehugger? isnt that also the ip of disney / fox?

just love the possibilities that it represents.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: SiL on Jul 08, 2023, 11:16:10 AM
Using an IP, and using AI to replicate a person's voice - with no mention of it - is not the same thing.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: oduodu on Jul 08, 2023, 11:24:08 AM
ty


not mentioning using ai to replicate the voice is the issue

gotcha
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: SiL on Jul 08, 2023, 12:01:07 PM
Doing it and not mentioning it.
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: oduodu on Jul 08, 2023, 12:37:01 PM
👍
Title: Re: David Attenborough visits LV-426 - Alien Fan Production
Post by: Xing_Republic on Jul 17, 2023, 06:50:59 PM
Thank you all for watching and for providing feedback! I have updated the description text with a disclaimer for recreating the voice of Sir David Attenborough for entertainment purposes.

This was an oversight as I'm still navigating Youtube as a platform.