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Title: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Sep 29, 2022, 10:24:45 PM
https://twitter.com/20thcentury/status/1575532321012211712
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: kwisatz on Sep 29, 2022, 10:31:34 PM
(https://y.yarn.co/c54e393f-235e-43c1-9d5b-ac72fae2038f_text.gif)
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Sep 30, 2022, 03:52:08 AM
They're doing a time skip just like I wanted.  8)
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Jan 12, 2023, 10:59:14 PM
https://twitter.com/totalfilm/status/1613506442241212416
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 13, 2023, 03:24:45 PM
Need to re-watch Mystery Men

(https://s9.gifyu.com/images/gif-4.gif)
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Feb 07, 2023, 01:37:57 AM
https://twitter.com/THR/status/1622698162686402560
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Feb 14, 2023, 12:26:02 AM
Filming has wrapped.

Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 14, 2023, 01:09:07 AM
Forbidden Zone? Neat. I should revisit the recent three movies soon, before Kingdom is out for sure, since I've only seen them once each I think. I revisited the original five films a year or so ago.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 14, 2023, 01:25:41 AM
I hope that code name means we're getting nuclear war in this.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 14, 2023, 01:56:26 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 14, 2023, 01:25:41 AMI hope that code name means we're getting nuclear war in this.

Depending on how far in the future this is set, we could even be well in the aftermath of the war. If the apes have a "Kingdom" and a Forbidden Zone is already established....
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 16, 2023, 12:35:26 AM
https://twitter.com/steveasbell/status/1625970978357661696
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 01, 2023, 04:17:22 PM
https://twitter.com/ApesMovies/status/1719746128965743069
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Nov 01, 2023, 05:16:48 PM
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 02, 2023, 03:05:51 PM

https://twitter.com/20thcentury/status/1720093780303650824

This looks great. Transplanting so much of the iconography of the original films into the current ongoing Apes continuity, and to seemingly great effect. Hyped for the Forbidden Zone, hyped for the Immortan Joe ape big bad.

Would love for this to get as weird as some of the original movie's followups do.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Nov 02, 2023, 09:30:00 PM
Loved seeing that orangutan wearing the clothing style from the original series.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Wweyland on Nov 02, 2023, 09:38:07 PM
Getting close to the 1968 movie, nice.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 02, 2023, 09:58:34 PM
Wes Ball...
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Nov 02, 2023, 10:49:33 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Nov 02, 2023, 09:58:34 PMWes Ball ]:

Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver are writing it, so they might offset Ball directing.

Edit: Oh and Prey's Patrick Aison had a hand in the script as well.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 02, 2023, 11:22:26 PM
I can't speak to anything else Ball has made, haven't seen any of it, but I'm honestly quite liking what I'm seeing here.

I know this isn't actually the same timeline/continuity as the original film, but I do wonder how close to that timeframe we are here. There's definitely a pretty significant time jump since Reeves' films, the Forbidden Zone seems to either be established or in the process of being established, etc. Not to mention some pretty direct iconography from the original being lifted, with a literal recreation of the beach shot.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Nov 02, 2023, 11:28:13 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 02, 2023, 11:22:26 PMI can't speak to anything else Ball has made, haven't seen any of it, but I'm honestly quite liking what I'm seeing here.

I know this isn't actually the same timeline/continuity as the original film, but I do wonder how close to that timeframe we are here. There's definitely a pretty significant time jump since Reeves' films, the Forbidden Zone seems to either be established or in the process of being established, etc. Not to mention some pretty direct iconography from the original being lifted, with a literal recreation of the beach shot.

Ape culture has definitely evolved since War, for sure.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 02, 2023, 11:44:34 PM
I need to revisit the recent trilogy. I think I saw Rise twice, and the Reeves ones once each. I know I really dug them, but my memory of the specifcis of how they play out is a bit hazy.

I grew up watching the original five movies over and over, and revisited them a bit over a year ago, so they're embedded much more in my brain than the recent ones, and so far Kingdom seems to be really stringing together what I know from the originals and what I remember from the new trilogy in a cool way.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: BenditlikeBeckum on Nov 02, 2023, 11:52:56 PM
They really need to get a better writer for these. I was disappointed not only in their ability to take over a franchise forcibly but their ability to deconstruct it to the point where its just another low brow thriller of monkeys throwing bananas at people and the people have guns. then it inverses itself. Like it probably took 10 years for Planet of the Apes originally to be conceived. These only take two week writers workshop to write out in full (insert zombie apocalypse, romantic interest with human characters and then you're done). Movie deal signed.

Wasn't it written by a guy named Pierre Boulle? Nobody remembers that name anymore.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 21, 2023, 03:07:04 AM
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1726661904012378394
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Thatguy2068 on Nov 30, 2023, 10:13:35 PM
I can only say one thing about this
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Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Dec 15, 2023, 05:07:22 PM
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1735706971859222733
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Dec 16, 2023, 05:02:49 AM
(https://s8d8.turboimg.net/sp/467d0fab137f64300f7d2cb4619ea354/kpa27.jpg)
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 19, 2023, 01:24:58 AM
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1736809436692590784
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 19, 2023, 02:30:25 AM
Apocalypto with Apes? Sooooold!
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: nanison on Dec 19, 2023, 11:02:38 PM
Yep sold, now they have my attention. I also desperately need to see the first trilogy again.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Stitch on Dec 20, 2023, 12:48:52 AM
It's such a terrible title.

A kingdom is the domain of a king. A planet is a planet. Kingdom of the planet makes no sense.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Dec 20, 2023, 01:57:55 AM
Welcome to PotA titles.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jan 12, 2024, 06:12:17 PM
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1745861178361004423
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: GoTenDu on Jan 12, 2024, 06:36:40 PM
Fingers crossed, I hope this will be GOOD!!
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Feb 11, 2024, 11:51:31 PM
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 11, 2024, 11:58:07 PM
Yeah this looks sick. I'm all in.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: PortugueseXeno on Feb 12, 2024, 12:00:45 AM
This looks incredible.

This movie, alongisde Alien and Dune Part 2 is my most anticipated of the year.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: SM on Feb 12, 2024, 12:05:32 AM
Apes need no king.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 01:45:50 AM
Human lead looks to be an astronaut, based on what she's wearing when Noa is pulling her out of the water.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: SM on Feb 12, 2024, 02:01:04 AM
Is this series meant to be a reboot?  I always got the impression it was prequel to the original film.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 02:03:43 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 12, 2024, 02:01:04 AMIs this series meant to be a reboot?  I always got the impression it was prequel to the original film.

I think at the time Rise was made, it was done in a way that it could be a prequel to the original if it wasn't a success, or it could grow into a franchise of its own if it was a hit. It took the latter path and seems to totally be its own thing separate from the originals at this stage.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2024, 02:06:03 AM
It would be kind of hard for these to be prequels, since we're clearly shown in the original that Taylor and his crew left Earth in the 70s.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 02:07:46 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2024, 02:06:03 AMIt would be kind of hard for these to be prequels, since we're clearly shown in the original that Taylor and his crew left Earth in the 70s.

Who knows, maybe "Taylor" might be Mae's last name in this new movie.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: SM on Feb 12, 2024, 02:18:06 AM
I remember some background detail in the first flick about a space mission being launched or lost which was to imply Chuck Heston was on board?
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2024, 02:18:39 AM
They mention a space mission but it can't really be the one from the original.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 03:52:34 AM
Oh I stand corrected on the human character's name – turns out the old report saying Mae was wrong. It's actually Nova, which is a fun inversion from the original film.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2024, 04:17:15 AM
Odd, considering there was a Nova in War.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: SM on Feb 12, 2024, 04:31:13 AM
As mankind gets dumber the pool of baby names they can remember decreases.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 04:46:46 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2024, 04:17:15 AMOdd, considering there was a Nova in War.

Huh, totally forgot about that.

I've only seen the recent three films once (maybe twice with Rise...) and don't remember them nearly as vividly as I do the original five, though I do remember quite liking them. Will definitely have to revisit them before Kingdom is out.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Feb 12, 2024, 05:40:17 AM
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2024, 05:40:27 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 04:46:46 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2024, 04:17:15 AMOdd, considering there was a Nova in War.

Huh, totally forgot about that.

I've only seen the recent three films once (maybe twice with Rise...) and don't remember them nearly as vividly as I do the original five, though I do remember quite liking them. Will definitely have to revisit them before Kingdom is out.

Your brain keeps looping back around, just like the original movies. ;)

Also I see you apparently have no memory at all of the Burton film.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 11:22:38 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2024, 05:40:27 AMAlso I see you apparently have no memory at all of the Burton film.  :laugh:

Watched it once as a kid, right around the time it came out, which was just after I got into the original series. Didn't like it, never saw it again.

I'll give it a revisit when I watch all of the other movies before Kingdom, even though I probably shouldn't haha.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Wweyland on Feb 12, 2024, 01:56:06 PM
I also saw the Burton movie in my late teens, I remember it being fun with a nonsensical ending.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 12, 2024, 03:10:21 PM
Outside of the makeup effects, there really isn't much there.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 12, 2024, 04:14:33 PM
https://twitter.com/wesball/status/1756922836193845519

Glad to hear. Hope they are as good about not spoiling the whole thing when the Alien: Romulus marketing kicks off, too!
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Feb 13, 2024, 03:06:29 AM
https://twitter.com/totalfilm/status/1757238181102023073
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Feb 25, 2024, 05:41:48 AM
So I revisited the movies (barring the Burton one because two viewings were more than enough) and made a ranking:

(https://i.imgur.com/dwFxrfJ.png)
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Feb 29, 2024, 08:38:22 PM
The Morlocks look more handsome than normal🤔
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Kradan on Mar 01, 2024, 11:26:43 AM
All I know about the franchise:

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/26tjZSQwenrMs2mIg/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952jfbd3yuruhznbbihim5v4hpol9r8wrofkzaq83er&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: SiL on Mar 01, 2024, 11:28:25 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 01, 2024, 11:26:43 AMAll I know about the franchise:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/26tjZSQwenrMs2mIg/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952jfbd3yuruhznbbihim5v4hpol9r8wrofkzaq83er&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g
Can I play the piano any more?
Of course you can.
Well I couldn't before!
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 01, 2024, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 01, 2024, 11:26:43 AMAll I know about the franchise:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/26tjZSQwenrMs2mIg/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952jfbd3yuruhznbbihim5v4hpol9r8wrofkzaq83er&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

Glad you're back comrade :)
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Kradan on Mar 01, 2024, 01:18:47 PM
Quote from: SiL on Mar 01, 2024, 11:28:25 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 01, 2024, 11:26:43 AMAll I know about the franchise:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/26tjZSQwenrMs2mIg/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952jfbd3yuruhznbbihim5v4hpol9r8wrofkzaq83er&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g
Can I play the piano any more?
Of course you can.
Well I couldn't before!

I hate every ape I see.
From chimpan-a to chimpan-z,



Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Mar 01, 2024, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Mar 01, 2024, 11:26:43 AMAll I know about the franchise:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/26tjZSQwenrMs2mIg/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952jfbd3yuruhznbbihim5v4hpol9r8wrofkzaq83er&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

Glad you're back comrade :)

Not for long I'm afraid
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Mar 02, 2024, 10:40:50 PM
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Mar 21, 2024, 04:00:40 PM
https://twitter.com/ApesMovies/status/1770842817373335678
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Mar 31, 2024, 11:43:21 PM
INTL poster

(https://s8d7.turboimg.net/sp/eebd0d82bc100b961f7f58f51dcde4a7/kpap5.jpg)
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Apr 01, 2024, 01:51:43 PM
https://twitter.com/Cakes_Comics/status/1774793863921565872




https://twitter.com/Dolby/status/1774783481798918369

https://twitter.com/screenxusa/status/1774798204204351706
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Apr 01, 2024, 11:59:37 PM
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Apr 08, 2024, 01:15:54 PM
https://twitter.com/Fandango/status/1777320685632622821
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Apr 08, 2024, 03:48:40 PM

https://twitter.com/Fandango/status/1777350987239260353
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Apr 22, 2024, 10:48:05 PM
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Apr 24, 2024, 10:42:22 PM
They've started viral marketing last 2 weeks.

https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1783251775031587082
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on Apr 26, 2024, 05:10:28 PM
https://twitter.com/Cakes_Comics/status/1783905300052922681
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 28, 2024, 09:50:53 PM
https://twitter.com/movie_gall/status/1783952475831046611

Source in comments.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on Apr 29, 2024, 01:45:37 AM
I'm still waiting for the cut of Ghost Rider 2 with just Cage and no CG.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 30, 2024, 06:12:57 PM
https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1785343345574674647
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on May 07, 2024, 06:34:31 PM
https://twitter.com/mattsinger/status/1787891724011831513
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on May 07, 2024, 10:18:41 PM
It's kind of terrible.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on May 07, 2024, 10:19:35 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 07, 2024, 10:18:41 PMIt's kind of terrible.

I'm still hung up on all the LotR names that are inexplicably used.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on May 08, 2024, 12:43:59 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on May 07, 2024, 10:19:35 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 07, 2024, 10:18:41 PMIt's kind of terrible.

I'm still hung up on all the LotR names that are inexplicably used.

Oh that is ridiculous, on top of the genetic time travel... thing.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on May 10, 2024, 09:52:56 AM
Really, really liked this. Inexplicable how consistently good (and relevant) this franchise continues to be, nearly sixty years out from its original release.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: T Dog on May 10, 2024, 11:40:29 AM
I think Dawn is one of the best big budget mainstream movies ever made, how does it compare to that?
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on May 10, 2024, 12:04:38 PM
Quote from: T Dog on May 10, 2024, 11:40:29 AMI think Dawn is one of the best big budget mainstream movies ever made, how does it compare to that?

(Note: I say this from the POV of being a person that likes War a bit more than Dawn, I think. But Dawn rocks!)

I guess if I were to rank the new series, I'd say this is probably a bit above Rise, a bit below the Reeves ones. But that's all pretty malleable/subject to change, and what I really love here the way Kingdom marries the sensibilities of the recent trilogy with the more expanded post-human world of the original movies (I've always adored the original five film run), and charts a pretty clear path from one body of films to the other in terms of the Apes' societies (emphasis on the plural form of the word there) and their relationship with what humans used to be which we know, eventually, will evolve into them forgetting what humans ever were (yes, I know the original films and the current ones are not in the same continuity, but it still feels like these movies are building towards roughly that same endgame result that was the Ape culture in the 1968 film). And on the topic of varying degrees of remembering and forgetting what once was, I really like the way that Caesar's legacy runs through this outing as a series of competing myths about who he was, what lessons he imparted, and what his actions ~300 years ago mean for Apes (and humans) at large now, so far removed from direct, in-the-moment impact his actions. His presence looms pretty heavily here, though the new characters are all pretty standout as well, some totally outside of Caesar's shadow, and others very directly taking cover within it.
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: ace3g on May 10, 2024, 09:53:48 PM
https://twitter.com/20thcentury/status/1789037702551400560
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on May 11, 2024, 05:03:19 PM
https://twitter.com/TheSpaceshipper/status/1789280130793197655

If they manage to keep the quality up, I can see this playing very well. The Caesar trilogy is more or less a loose remake of the latter movies from the original series, Kingdom opens the door for a very interesting bridge story a few hundred years later in which the shadow of the old world, humanity and their abandoned, grown over cities, and Caesar's legacy still looms large, and a third trilogy would be, I guess, more or less a riff on the era of the first two movies in the original series, set a couple thousand years in the future with no trace of sentient human history existing except within the Forbidden Zone, until some visitors from space come crashing down...
Title: Re: Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
Post by: KiramidHead on May 11, 2024, 08:46:11 PM
Very much enjoyed this. It's not quite as good as Dawn and War, but above Rise for me. And I'm very curious as to where this will go.

My overall franchise ranking for context:

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/hikmN97.png)
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Kingdom has potential to move up on future viewings.