Hey everyone! I was just curious your thoughts, what is the maximum strength of a predator? I have read comics where a predator Ragdolls a 2000 pound buffalo, in the new Prey trailer the Predator lifts up a 1700 pound grizzly and I have seen them rip apart metal doors and concrete walls and lift up a 200 pound man out in front of himself with one arm as well as rip spines from bodies. So what would be the tonnage range there if you were to put a stamp on it?
I usually take for granted what movies showed us, the EU not so much.
Jungle hunter lifted that log while being mortally wounded. That's pretty amazing IMO.
Grizzly bears can be anything from 600 to 1700 pounds. The world record for a human weight lifter is 1100 pounds. So it's believable. This better be the limit though. I don't ever want to see a Predator lift a tank, that's too cartoony and unrealistic.
True, however that bear was definitely on the larger end based on it's size, also the Predator was lifting via overhead press which currently the world record is 468 pounds, making the predator already in unrealistic levels of strength lol.
I don't think we're gonna ever see them flip a tank unless it's something like the assassin. But for comparisons sake I'd say they're probably close to something like Captain America in terms of strength. Strong enough to bash through walls and lift a bear overhead, but probably isn't going to make like the Hulk outside of special cases like the Assassin.
Essentially if they're superhuman level they're on the lower end of things. Which is still pretty dangerous and all the more impressive they're as dexterous as they are.
Well we know they are at least in the 1 ton range seeing as they can lift a bison around. I would probably max them out at a possible 2 tons but not going into levels of like spiderman and stuff in the 5 ton range. Though in a comic a predator ran at a car and flipped it and ripped the top door of a tank off, so I mean take that how you will, they could be near Spiderman Strength.
You're basing everything off of a human level. If humans where twice the size ( A Predator basically) they could lift 4 times what they can now.
Now go look up what a Gorilla can bench press and you'll find that Bear was a Tuesday at the gym for the Feral Predator. 8)
Quote from: Highland on Jul 28, 2022, 11:34:35 PMYou're basing everything off of a human level. If humans where twice the size ( A Predator basically) they could lift 4 times what they can now.
Now go look up what a Gorilla can bench press and you'll find that Bear was a Tuesday at the gym for the Feral Predator. 8)
So what your saying is Predator strength is more akin to mountain Gorillas correct? Which considering it lists Predators as weighing around 500 pounds and a silverback Gorilla about the same, your hypothesis has no argument from me, i think they would be about matched in ability and therefore...the predator is lifting bears at the gym like it's no big deal. 😎
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Jul 30, 2022, 05:02:52 AMQuote from: Highland on Jul 28, 2022, 11:34:35 PMYou're basing everything off of a human level. If humans where twice the size ( A Predator basically) they could lift 4 times what they can now.
Now go look up what a Gorilla can bench press and you'll find that Bear was a Tuesday at the gym for the Feral Predator. 8)
So what your saying is Predator strength is more akin to mountain Gorillas correct? Which considering it lists Predators as weighing around 500 pounds and a silverback Gorilla about the same, your hypothesis has no argument from me, i think they would be about matched in ability and therefore...the predator is lifting bears at the gym like it's no big deal. 😎
I think if we take the strength of a gorilla and add a little "alien blood" tax, there's nothing I've seen in the movies that looks unrealistic.
It would even justify why the predator can move so fast through the trees. Just pure strength.
Quote from: Highland on Jul 30, 2022, 11:33:44 AMQuote from: (Bad Blood) on Jul 30, 2022, 05:02:52 AMQuote from: Highland on Jul 28, 2022, 11:34:35 PMYou're basing everything off of a human level. If humans where twice the size ( A Predator basically) they could lift 4 times what they can now.
Now go look up what a Gorilla can bench press and you'll find that Bear was a Tuesday at the gym for the Feral Predator. 8)
So what your saying is Predator strength is more akin to mountain Gorillas correct? Which considering it lists Predators as weighing around 500 pounds and a silverback Gorilla about the same, your hypothesis has no argument from me, i think they would be about matched in ability and therefore...the predator is lifting bears at the gym like it's no big deal. 😎
I think if we take the strength of a gorilla and add a little "alien blood" tax, there's nothing I've seen in the movies that looks unrealistic.
It would even justify why the predator can move so fast through the trees. Just pure strength.
I think you're right, it makes perfect sense.
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LOL after seeing Prey I certainly had my answer. Truly awesome strength.
Absolutely loved that visual.
Wonky CGI blood aside
Looks fine to me.
I thought it looked pretty good myself. I have certainly seen worse cgi blood. Looking at you Unrated AvP 2004!
if you can stand on top of a building and have a lightning bolt pass through through and it does nothing to you i would assume that you are able to store massive amounts of energy and able to control its flow. if you have blood that glows in the dark it probably has huge energy carrying ability. id say the predator can access energy reserves that is far more just muscle strength. i am guessing that the tech they possess allows them huge physically strength if they need it.
so i am guessing that the arm device allows them ways of accessing far more advances energy storing and retrieval that interfaces with their biology.
i mean if you can drop say 5 or 10 stories from a building and land on your feet uninjured then you have a body that is strong enough to wield such power.
if you are asking just their normal bodies themselves i am guessing that they are at least 5 times stronger than human at a purely physical level. i am guessing that come from a world where the gravity is at least 5 times more than ours.
so a predator and a man of same physical dimensions would be a complete mismatch. i am assuming that pred's physical density is accordingly much higher , at least twice. so a man of same dimension as a predator would probably weigh halve of what a predator does.
so a predator of feral's size i would guess with their tech could lift some thing like 2 - 3000 pounds easily. but i also believe their tech can bend gravity and also allow to grip to the ground they are more easily able to be stable when picking stuff up.
Quote from: oduodu on Aug 14, 2022, 03:29:09 AMif you can stand on top of a building and have a lightning bolt pass through through and it does nothing to you i would assume that you are able to store massive amounts of energy and able to control its flow. if you have blood that glows in the dark it probably has huge energy carrying ability. id say the predator can access energy reserves that is far more just muscle strength. i am guessing that the tech they possess allows them huge physically strength if they need it.
so i am guessing that the arm device allows them ways of accessing far more advances energy storing and retrieval that interfaces with their biology.
i mean if you can drop say 5 or 10 stories from a building and land on your feet uninjured then you have a body that is strong enough to wield such power.
if you are asking just their normal bodies themselves i am guessing that they are at least 5 times stronger than human at a purely physical level. i am guessing that come from a world where the gravity is at least 5 times more than ours.
so a predator and a man of same physical dimensions would be a complete mismatch. i am assuming that pred's physical density is accordingly much higher , at least twice. so a man of same dimension as a predator would probably weigh halve of what a predator does.
so a predator of feral's size i would guess with their tech could lift some thing like 2 - 3000 pounds easily. but i also believe their tech can bend gravity and also allow to grip to the ground they are more easily able to be stable when picking stuff up.
I like this answer and I agree.
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Aug 13, 2022, 11:02:49 PMI thought it looked pretty good myself. I have certainly seen worse cgi blood. Looking at you Unrated AvP 2004!
Seriously Dude, AvP is nearly 20 years old. Comparing cgi isn't exactly fair.
Personally I'm not someone to pick apart CGI. When CGI is used to make living moving creatures it's almost always noticeably CGI, I've learned to accept it.
Quote from: Master on Aug 15, 2022, 02:37:42 PMQuote from: (Bad Blood) on Aug 13, 2022, 11:02:49 PMI thought it looked pretty good myself. I have certainly seen worse cgi blood. Looking at you Unrated AvP 2004!
Seriously Dude, AvP is nearly 20 years old. Comparing cgi isn't exactly fair.
Yep, and the cgi we see now will be laughable in a few years time, hell the cgi in godzilla vs king kong is already bad. Several cgi scenes in prey was so fake too.
The moment where he is just standing covered in blood watching Naru flee is the worst one IMO
Quote from: Master on Aug 15, 2022, 02:37:42 PMQuote from: (Bad Blood) on Aug 13, 2022, 11:02:49 PMI thought it looked pretty good myself. I have certainly seen worse cgi blood. Looking at you Unrated AvP 2004!
Seriously Dude, AvP is nearly 20 years old. Comparing cgi isn't exactly fair.
I was just making a joke, I know it was because of the time it was made. I guess it wasn't very funny...
Nah the fake blood in AvP Unrated was awful even in 2004.
Still comparing it to 2022 effects is not fair in slightest.
Quote from: Master on Aug 15, 2022, 10:15:50 PMStill comparing it to 2022 effects is not fair in slightest.
True, but some of the cgi blood in prey did make me think of AvP.