I've been looking through the pictures we have of Fugitive real close... Has anyone talked about how his hair is completely different on some of them? Take a close look at these ones:
(https://i.imgur.com/0LWxX8v.jpg)
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYTgxMzEyM2UtNDVlMS00MmE1LWE1MTUtMTVmMzk2OWI2ODczXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjQ4ODE4MzQ@._V1_.jpg)
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMGJmOTcwMjgtZTdlMC00NjJiLWFiYjMtNzRlZTEwNjhkNmRlXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDUyMTU0NDg@._V1_.jpg)
And now at these:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Predator_pressi7.jpg)
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjQ2OTIyNDc2MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTQ0ODQwNjM@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,1502,1000_AL_.jpg)
It's a lot longer on these last two.
I'm not sure what you're referring to, as the length and texture seems the same to me.
Quote from: Danversity on Aug 18, 2018, 04:06:27 AM
I've been looking through the pictures we have of Fugitive real close... Has anyone talked about how his hair is completely different on some of them? Take a close look at these ones:
Yep I see it, that's why I think there's a 3rd Predator that replaced the friendlies
(https://i.imgur.com/0LWxX8v.jpg)
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYTgxMzEyM2UtNDVlMS00MmE1LWE1MTUtMTVmMzk2OWI2ODczXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjQ4ODE4MzQ@._V1_.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMGJmOTcwMjgtZTdlMC00NjJiLWFiYjMtNzRlZTEwNjhkNmRlXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDUyMTU0NDg@._V1_.jpg
And now at these:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Predator_pressi7.jpg)
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjQ2OTIyNDc2MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTQ0ODQwNjM@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,1502,1000_AL_.jpg
It's a lot longer on these last two.
In all the images where the hair is "shorter" he's got his head tilted in some manner.
I believe it's just the angle, although I may be mistaken.
Quote from: Danversity on Aug 18, 2018, 04:06:27 AM
I've been looking through the pictures we have of Fugitive real close... Has anyone talked about how his hair is completely different on some of them? Take a close look at these ones:
(https://i.imgur.com/0LWxX8v.jpg)
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYTgxMzEyM2UtNDVlMS00MmE1LWE1MTUtMTVmMzk2OWI2ODczXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjQ4ODE4MzQ@._V1_.jpg
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMGJmOTcwMjgtZTdlMC00NjJiLWFiYjMtNzRlZTEwNjhkNmRlXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDUyMTU0NDg@._V1_.jpg
And now at these:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/userpics/10003/Predator_pressi7.jpg)
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjQ2OTIyNDc2MF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTQ0ODQwNjM@._V1_SY1000_CR0,0,1502,1000_AL_.jpg
It's a lot longer on these last two.
The only other thing I can think is that his front dreds are shorter and in the bottom pictures with longer dreds are from his back pulled forward, cause some look shorter near the front
Back dreds look longer maybe(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180818/4d70db8ae468c4eae4945ba22871359d.jpg)
Quote from: The Wolverine Predator on Aug 18, 2018, 04:29:09 AM
Back dreds look longer maybehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180818/4d70db8ae468c4eae4945ba22871359d.jpg
That's what I've been thinking
But anyway after I saw that I went to look into IMDb, and do we know who were the two guys that played the friendly Preds?
Supposedly one of them was Kyle Strauts, right? I follow him on instagram and I've been thinking it's odd him still promoting the film even though he's been cut from it a long time ago. If he's one of the friendlies, that is. On IMDb he's credited as "Emmissary", and I always thought that was the name for the friendlies 'cause I remembered there were two guys credited as Emmissary there, but I checked again and the other guy is actually Brian A. Prince, who we know is Fugitive. Could be a simple mistake, but data on IMDb usually's pretty accurate when we're this close to the release - hell, I've been spoiled by it several times. So this had me puzzled.
Won't be surprised if there are in fact 2 of them actually. Besides the dreads, the targeting laser is noticeably different on both the battle-damaged and regular "fugitive" masks by Prime 1 studio
Just jumping in to say I too have noticed the seeming changes in Fugitive's dread length. In particular, the shot from the trailer with the planes overhead, his dreads look so much longer that for a second I almost thought it was another predator entirely! Could be just an illusion, but to my eyes at least it seemed like quite a difference, more than could be explained by varying angles and lighting. Looks like a solid 4 inch difference some of the time. Probably no big deal, but yeah, I've been seeing it too.
Quote from: von on Aug 18, 2018, 05:32:30 AM
Won't be surprised if there are in fact 2 of them actually. Besides the dreads, the targeting laser is noticeably different on both the battle-damaged and regular "fugitive" masks by Prime 1 studio
It's within the realm of possibility that they've added another Predator into the mix, maybe in place of the emissaries - don't see any credible evidence for it, but it's a sneaking suspicion I have (or maybe just super wishful thinking.) In any event, the difference in hair length I do notice.
Quote from: Danversity on Aug 18, 2018, 04:32:09 AM
On IMDb he's credited as "Emmissary", and I always thought that was the name for the friendlies 'cause I remembered there were two guys credited as Emmissary there, but I checked again and the other guy is actually Brian A. Prince, who we know is Fugitive.
I think that "Emmissary" refers to
Spoiler
Dominguez from the script. He is the Mexican US emissary...the guy who is tasked by McKenna to post the package (Predator mask and gauntlet) to the US.
Quote from: Wysps on Aug 18, 2018, 06:06:25 AM
It's within the realm of possibility that they've added another Predator into the mix, maybe in place of the emissaries - don't see any credible evidence for it, but it's a sneaking suspicion I have (or maybe just super wishful thinking.)
I don't think they added a 3rd Predator. No mentions were about it from the test screenings.
What I was thinking about is that how can Fugitive's mask damaged in such an orderly way...it looks like a scratch clue. Maybe one of the Predator dogs did it on the Ark even before he enters the escape pod? If so, that would mean an other difference from the script.
One of the leaked set pictures of the friendlies shows the face of one of the actors, and though is difficult to see who is it, it doesn't look like Kyle Strauts to me. On IMDb we have one Paul Lazenby credited as "Biker" and one Jay Hector with no named character. They're considerably shorter than our regular Predators, but still quite taller than the average guy. Could maybe these two have been the friendlies?
To further spice up the discussion, Fugitives mask has scretches at the begining on the left side.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/thepredator/teaser-trailer/the-predator-teaser-trailer-38.jpg)
It's gone in shoots above.
(https://i.imgur.com/0LWxX8v.jpg)
Fugitive crash lands after fighting Assassin that's the damaged armor found and sent to the kid. Fugitive is brought to the lab and after escaping he armors up with the armor from the display case in the trailer (with the P1 helm) Assassin tracks him down to finish the fight and during the fight more Predators arrive setting up the sequel.
Quote from: The Ancient One on Aug 20, 2018, 01:23:11 PM
Fugitive crash lands after fighting Assassin that's the damaged armor found and sent to the kid. Fugitive is brought to the lab and after escaping he armors up with the armor from the display case in the trailer (with the P1 helm) Assassin tracks him down to finish the fight and during the fight more Predators arrive setting up the sequel.
Speculation i hope ?
Quote from: The Ancient One on Aug 20, 2018, 01:23:11 PM
Fugitive crash lands after fighting Assassin that's the damaged armor found and sent to the kid. Fugitive is brought to the lab and after escaping he armors up with the armor from the display case in the trailer (with the P1 helm) Assassin tracks him down to finish the fight and during the fight more Predators arrive setting up the sequel.
More or less correct.
Fugitive does not fight with Assassin before crash landing on Earth, at least in the early script. He just escapes and steals the Ark. Given that the hybrids are cut out we really don't know what's on the Ark actually after the reshoots.
And of course more Predators won't arrive. :)
The rest is correct. :P
Quote from: Master on Aug 20, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
To further spice up the discussion, Fugitives mask has scretches at the begining on the left side.
The real question is what could cause such a damage?
Quote from: Xerxész on Aug 20, 2018, 04:50:35 PM
Quote from: The Ancient One on Aug 20, 2018, 01:23:11 PM
Fugitive crash lands after fighting Assassin that's the damaged armor found and sent to the kid. Fugitive is brought to the lab and after escaping he armors up with the armor from the display case in the trailer (with the P1 helm) Assassin tracks him down to finish the fight and during the fight more Predators arrive setting up the sequel.
More or less correct.
Fugitive does not fight with Assassin before crash landing on Earth, at least in the early script. He just escapes and steals the Ark. Given that the hybrids are cut out we really don't know what's on the Ark actually after the reshoots.
And of course more Predators won't arrive. :)
The rest is correct. :P
Quote from: Master on Aug 20, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
To further spice up the discussion, Fugitives mask has scretches at the begining on the left side.
The real question is what could cause such a damage?
Spoiler
According to the first script, which I highly doubt this part made the cuts, at the end more Predator ships do show up. I don't know if they were part of the Assassins crew or Fugitives crew though :-\
Quote from: Wysps on Aug 20, 2018, 06:20:47 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on Aug 20, 2018, 04:50:35 PM
Quote from: The Ancient One on Aug 20, 2018, 01:23:11 PM
Fugitive crash lands after fighting Assassin that's the damaged armor found and sent to the kid. Fugitive is brought to the lab and after escaping he armors up with the armor from the display case in the trailer (with the P1 helm) Assassin tracks him down to finish the fight and during the fight more Predators arrive setting up the sequel.
More or less correct.
Fugitive does not fight with Assassin before crash landing on Earth, at least in the early script. He just escapes and steals the Ark. Given that the hybrids are cut out we really don't know what's on the Ark actually after the reshoots.
And of course more Predators won't arrive. :)
The rest is correct. :P
Quote from: Master on Aug 20, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
To further spice up the discussion, Fugitives mask has scretches at the begining on the left side.
The real question is what could cause such a damage?
Spoiler
According to the first script, which I highly doubt this part made the cuts, at the end more Predator ships do show up. I don't know if they were part of the Assassins crew or Fugitives crew though :-\
Interesting... That's not in the script i have though
It's been a while since I've read it, but I thought I remembered
Spoiler
Arnie (when his character was still in the movie) mentioning at the end of the film that "the war has already started" with Boyd, the kid, and the woman's characters around him, and a pan out to show more ships?
Quote from: Wysps on Aug 20, 2018, 06:20:47 PM
Spoiler
According to the first script, which I highly doubt this part made the cuts, at the end more Predator ships do show up. I don't know if they were part of the Assassins crew or Fugitives crew though :-\
Do you have that script?
I would read that version as well.
Quote from: Xerxész on Aug 20, 2018, 08:19:43 PMI would read that version as well.
Spoiler
TIME CUT: MINUTES LATER - ON CASEY AND McKENNA
Approaching the helicopter.
CASEY
It's weird. The file was all about
how honorable these things are...
(re: upgrade)
But this one -- he wasn't about
hunting. No sporting chance,
nothing. Just slaughter.
MCKENNA
You said it yourself, it had
human DNA...
(smiles sadly)
They're becoming more like us.
CASEY
(unsettled)
McKenna, did we... did we
just start a war?
Now, a VOICE from the chopper:
VOICE (O.S.)
Negatory. The war's
already started.
They both look up as, framed in the hatchway, REVEAL:
"DUTCH" SCHAEFER
The Predator's first adversary. Face haunted; etched by pain.
SCHAEFER
Dutch Schaefer, U.S. Special
Forces. Come with me.
RORY
Uh... me, too?
Schaefer nods, smiles grimly... says:
SCHAEFER
Especially you.
CUT TO BLACK.
CREDITS.
No ships.
Maybe another version script... I don't think so.
Quote from: Xerxész on Aug 20, 2018, 04:50:35 PM
Quote from: Master on Aug 20, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
To further spice up the discussion, Fugitives mask has scretches at the begining on the left side.
The real question is what could cause such a damage?
With avp becoming canon, I have a few ideas.
Quote from: Tetsujin on Aug 20, 2018, 09:21:08 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on Aug 20, 2018, 08:19:43 PMI would read that version as well.
Spoiler
TIME CUT: MINUTES LATER - ON CASEY AND McKENNA
Approaching the helicopter.
CASEY
It's weird. The file was all about
how honorable these things are...
(re: upgrade)
But this one -- he wasn't about
hunting. No sporting chance,
nothing. Just slaughter.
MCKENNA
You said it yourself, it had
human DNA...
(smiles sadly)
They're becoming more like us.
CASEY
(unsettled)
McKenna, did we... did we
just start a war?
Now, a VOICE from the chopper:
VOICE (O.S.)
Negatory. The war's
already started.
They both look up as, framed in the hatchway, REVEAL:
"DUTCH" SCHAEFER
The Predator's first adversary. Face haunted; etched by pain.
SCHAEFER
Dutch Schaefer, U.S. Special
Forces. Come with me.
RORY
Uh... me, too?
Schaefer nods, smiles grimly... says:
SCHAEFER
Especially you.
CUT TO BLACK.
CREDITS.
No ships.
Maybe another version script... I don't think so.
That's the version that I have :) Looks like I was mistaken!
Quote from: Wysps on Aug 20, 2018, 06:20:47 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on Aug 20, 2018, 04:50:35 PM
Quote from: The Ancient One on Aug 20, 2018, 01:23:11 PM
Fugitive crash lands after fighting Assassin that's the damaged armor found and sent to the kid. Fugitive is brought to the lab and after escaping he armors up with the armor from the display case in the trailer (with the P1 helm) Assassin tracks him down to finish the fight and during the fight more Predators arrive setting up the sequel.
More or less correct.
Fugitive does not fight with Assassin before crash landing on Earth, at least in the early script. He just escapes and steals the Ark. Given that the hybrids are cut out we really don't know what's on the Ark actually after the reshoots.
And of course more Predators won't arrive. :)
The rest is correct. :P
Quote from: Master on Aug 20, 2018, 12:15:50 PM
To further spice up the discussion, Fugitives mask has scretches at the begining on the left side.
The real question is what could cause such a damage?
Spoiler
According to the first script, which I highly doubt this part made the cuts, at the end more Predator ships do show up. I don't know if they were part of the Assassins crew or Fugitives crew though :-\
What script have you read, because that didn't happen in the one I read too
Quote from: Wysps on Aug 20, 2018, 10:12:58 PM
Quote from: Tetsujin on Aug 20, 2018, 09:21:08 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on Aug 20, 2018, 08:19:43 PMI would read that version as well.
Spoiler
TIME CUT: MINUTES LATER - ON CASEY AND McKENNA
Approaching the helicopter.
CASEY
It's weird. The file was all about
how honorable these things are...
(re: upgrade)
But this one -- he wasn't about
hunting. No sporting chance,
nothing. Just slaughter.
MCKENNA
You said it yourself, it had
human DNA...
(smiles sadly)
They're becoming more like us.
CASEY
(unsettled)
McKenna, did we... did we
just start a war?
Now, a VOICE from the chopper:
VOICE (O.S.)
Negatory. The war's
already started.
They both look up as, framed in the hatchway, REVEAL:
"DUTCH" SCHAEFER
The Predator's first adversary. Face haunted; etched by pain.
SCHAEFER
Dutch Schaefer, U.S. Special
Forces. Come with me.
RORY
Uh... me, too?
Schaefer nods, smiles grimly... says:
SCHAEFER
Especially you.
CUT TO BLACK.
CREDITS.
No ships.
Maybe another version script... I don't think so.
That's the version that I have :) Looks like I was mistaken!
ahh ok