Obviously a lot has been changed from the leaked script, but figured I put spoiler for those who haven't read it.
Spoiler
But in the script when the Predator escapes the lab and killing every guard in site, he ends up taking a gun from one of the guards as seen in the latest picture. How do you feel about a Predator using human weapons? I don't particularly see why they couldn't use them and I certainly got nothing against it, as Predators do have "gun"-like shooting weapons like the spear gun. There's no reason why they couldn't operate one. I always imagine a Predator maybe having like an old Western rifle but I wouldn't make a human gun, especially a machine gun, be part of their main weaponry of the hunt.
Quote from: germanator2 on Jul 11, 2018, 12:57:57 AM
Obviously a lot has been changed from the leaked script, but figured I put spoiler for those who haven't read it. Spoiler
But in the script when the Predator escapes the lab and killing every guard in site, he ends up taking a gun from one of the guards as seen in the latest picture. How do you feel about a Predator using human weapons? I don't particularly see why they couldn't use them and I certainly got nothing against it, as Predators do have "gun"-like shooting weapons like the spear gun. There's no reason why they couldn't operate one. I always imagine a Predator maybe having like an old Western rifle but I wouldn't make a human gun, especially a machine gun, be part of their main weaponry of the hunt.
Honestly I have no problem with it, as long as it doesn't play out like some Rambo movie. They obviously know weapons, so if they "somehow" manage to oblige themselves....then so be it.
I don't necessarily love it, my brain goes straight to the image of a predator blowing people away in spray-n-pray rapid fire which I'm not into, but it makes complete sense he would use whatever weapon was readily available to him.
City Hunter didn't seem too fond of our toys.
So I don't much care for the image of a Predator wielding human gear. Another reason i'm glad they cut the allied Predators.
I'd rather not see predators shooting human weapons. Our armaments should seem like primitive toys to them. I'd assume they'd give them a quick look and just toss them away or break them.
At least they weren't going to be wearing exosuits.
Yea but a full auto rifle still makes for one hell of a blunt force instrument. A predator beating someone to death with a gun would be neat.
Not a fan, personally; but it makes sense in one respect. From a "logical" perspective at least.
He's 'naked' and gone to the base with the intention of getting his shit back. He can hadly ask for parlay while he gets his gear on.
Hoping he just launches the soldier and the gun is an afterthought.
More interested to see how he interacts with Munn in the base; as the way that was handled in the early script was the worst part of it sll, IMO.
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Jul 11, 2018, 06:38:14 AM
More interested to see how he interacts with Munn in the base; as the way that was handled in the early script was the worst part of it sll, IMO.
Most likely it will remain the same as in the script.
He will let her 'untouched' in the decon chamber.
I love it. Predators are intelligent beings. I think they can cope with our weapons. It's something I really loved in Big Game (and the novelization actually made a point of the Predator using an M-16 to taught those hunting it. Letting it know that it could use our technology.
Hope he just smashes the thing like ghost did in Predator 2. Space tech advanced warrior stooping to our tools is just bullshit unarmed or not.
It really isn't. A weapon is a weapon. While I imagine there's some advancements gone into the metallurgy or construction, they're still using really simple designs and concepts with the wrist-blades or knifes. I imagine they're pretty damn strong, but they'd rather have any weapon, than just fight with their fists.
The Predator is a professionally trained hunter. So anything can be used as a weapon, especially it's opponents weapons. Sure most of the time a plasma caster is better but a gun is just a step down in most situations.
Still like Black said, the moment a Predator picks up a cigarette, half the fandom will lose their minds.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 11, 2018, 07:09:40 AM
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Jul 11, 2018, 06:38:14 AM
More interested to see how he interacts with Munn in the base; as the way that was handled in the early script was the worst part of it sll, IMO.
Most likely it will remain the same as in the script.
He will let her 'untouched' in the decon chamber.
Alright, Wysps or someone needs to send me the actual transcript of this scene. ;D
As for the predator using human weapons, I love it. Chewbacca uses small blasters with his big furry mits and nobody bats an eye.
They'll probably have Captured toss it away as soon as he gets ahold of his cannon.
I love my ridiculous OP Scarface sneaking around with no weapons, no cloak- ripping people in half.
But I'm open to this, it's all in the execution.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 11, 2018, 09:49:09 AM
Alright, Wysps or someone needs to send me the actual transcript of this scene. ;D
Not a big deal.
When Fugitive gets free he starts to rampage. Casey backs into the decon chamber where she has to get off her clothes (naked...there is a scene in the trailer, that's exactly this part). The Predator kills almost everyone, beheads Colwell (a scientist) and cuts off his hand. Then he uses the head and hand at the access scanners. He manages to get into the decon chamber when he faces Casey...naked (IIRC). Casey tries to shoot with her tranq gun but it jams and then the Predator kinda laughs and goes by, leaving Casey alive.
That's all.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 11, 2018, 09:49:09 AM
They'll probably have Captured toss it away as soon as he gets ahold of his cannon.
Exactly that's the case.
He only needs human weapons until he finds his own equipment.
I did like that scene using a scalpel to get the head and hand. Still, in my opinion, a predator using our inferior weapons is just not the predator I know and love. Will it ruin the movie for me no because I have no expectations for this flick since reading the script. There were so many directions to take this and yet we end up with this non sense. Autism spider hybrids fatigue fitted predators using translators and heavy artillery just doesn't belong in Predator. I really hope I have to eat my words of negativity but from the trailers and the terrible script changing day to night and character deaths is highly unlikely to make this a better movie. If it isn't broke don't fix it
Obviously it depends greatly on execution, but i'm not fond of the idea. I don't think it's a problem of the predator being able or willing to use our weapons or not, but more of a visual problem : it can humanize them too much. This image could stay in your brain for long, thinking of them behaving way too much like a human soldier.
That's not something we even control fully, but our minds are set to think of a predator in some ways, and mine is not ready to see a pred fire a human gun, even though i think he totally could.
I don't see why not. Human weapon is still a weapon. Once he's a fugitive rules change, it's not about hunting anymore when you are the one on the run. And It's not like he'd have much choice. It's either getting captured again and/or being killed or picking a human and getting a slight advantage. The predator would have to be the most stubborn one and stupid to ignore any kind of weapon in a desperate situation like this. If it shoots it can kill lol.
No thank you, no human guns should be used by a predator. He could take it a crush it just like P2 but to use the weapon would make the predator look poor. Leave the crap for the comics imo.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 11, 2018, 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 11, 2018, 09:49:09 AM
Alright, Wysps or someone needs to send me the actual transcript of this scene. ;D
Not a big deal.
When Fugitive gets free he starts to rampage. Casey backs into the decon chamber where she has to get off her clothes (naked...there is a scene in the trailer, that's exactly this part). The Predator kills almost everyone, beheads Colwell (a scientist) and cuts off his hand. Then he uses the head and hand at the access scanners. He manages to get into the decon chamber when he faces Casey...naked (IIRC). Casey tries to shoot with her tranq gun but it jams and then the Predator kinda laughs and goes by, leaving Casey alive.
That's all.
Fantastic. :laugh:
Honestly as long as Captured is shooting it with one hand I think it will look fine.
Quote from: Lionhart on Jul 11, 2018, 01:13:41 PM
No thank you, no human guns should be used by a predator. He could take it a crush it just like P2 but to use the weapon would make the predator look poor. Leave the crap for the comics imo.
I don't understand what is it that dictates that a Predator wouldn't use a human weapon? Since it was captured it'd have pretty good reason to use it instead of going barehanded against all those soldiers. Elder from P2 had a revolver (yeah we don't know whether it used it or not) but it wasn't against using that gun as a souvenir. So, if Elder thought human gun is not a pathetic toy nor should Captured.
Quote from: georgeromero on Jul 11, 2018, 01:54:18 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on Jul 11, 2018, 01:13:41 PM
No thank you, no human guns should be used by a predator. He could take it a crush it just like P2 but to use the weapon would make the predator look poor. Leave the crap for the comics imo.
I don't understand what is it that dictates that a Predator wouldn't use a human weapon? Since it was captured it'd have pretty good reason to use it instead of going barehanded against all those soldiers. Elder from P2 had a revolver (yeah we don't know whether it used it or not) but it wasn't against using that gun as a souvenir. So, if Elder thought human gun is not a pathetic toy nor should Captured.
I totally understand what you mean, but that would make the predator look less scary if it used a gun. That's my opinion. It's like saying Jason should use an AK and spray everyone at crystal lake. Pred should use pred tech.
Well Jason's kind of... immortal.
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 11, 2018, 01:32:34 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 11, 2018, 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 11, 2018, 09:49:09 AM
Alright, Wysps or someone needs to send me the actual transcript of this scene. ;D
Not a big deal.
When Fugitive gets free he starts to rampage. Casey backs into the decon chamber where she has to get off her clothes (naked...there is a scene in the trailer, that's exactly this part). The Predator kills almost everyone, beheads Colwell (a scientist) and cuts off his hand. Then he uses the head and hand at the access scanners. He manages to get into the decon chamber when he faces Casey...naked (IIRC). Casey tries to shoot with her tranq gun but it jams and then the Predator kinda laughs and goes by, leaving Casey alive.
That's all.
Fantastic. :laugh:
Honestly as long as Captured is shooting it with one hand I think it will look fine.
I thought you'd be pleased :laugh: I'm hoping for some comic relief here, to break up that long, intense action sequence. And of course...to get some more personality in there Oh yeah 8)
I know the Predators handling human weapons is a hot topic, but I don't mind seeing it. Why wouldn't they use any tools at their disposal, especially if it's to work towards a goal.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 11, 2018, 12:02:50 PM
Obviously it depends greatly on execution, but i'm not fond of the idea. I don't think it's a problem of the predator being able or willing to use our weapons or not, but more of a visual problem : it can humanize them too much. This image could stay in your brain for long, thinking of them behaving way too much like a human soldier.
That's not something we even control fully, but our minds are set to think of a predator in some ways, and mine is not ready to see a pred fire a human gun, even though i think he totally could.
I kinda see it in vain of the Jedis attitude (particularly Obi-Wan) towards blasters as they're uncivilized.
Quote from: georgeromero on Jul 11, 2018, 01:07:59 PM
I don't see why not. Human weapon is still a weapon. Once he's a fugitive rules change, it's not about hunting anymore when you are the one on the run. And It's not like he'd have much choice. It's either getting captured again and/or being killed or picking a human and getting a slight advantage. The predator would have to be the most stubborn one and stupid to ignore any kind of weapon in a desperate situation like this. If it shoots it can kill lol.
I'd agree with this, I can't see why he'd avoid a human weapon if it was his only option. As long as he's not toting it around the whole time and just uses it briefly to eliminate obstacles and get his proper gear, I'm alright with it.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 11, 2018, 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 11, 2018, 09:49:09 AM
Alright, Wysps or someone needs to send me the actual transcript of this scene. ;D
Not a big deal.
When Fugitive gets free he starts to rampage. Casey backs into the decon chamber where she has to get off her clothes (naked...there is a scene in the trailer, that's exactly this part). The Predator kills almost everyone, beheads Colwell (a scientist) and cuts off his hand. Then he uses the head and hand at the access scanners. He manages to get into the decon chamber when he faces Casey...naked (IIRC). Casey tries to shoot with her tranq gun but it jams and then the Predator kinda laughs and goes by, leaving Casey alive.
That's all.
I... dig this. ;) I hope it remains as is in the movie!
(https://pre00.deviantart.net/c23b/th/pre/f/2014/327/5/3/predator_fan_art_by_altocontrastestudio-d87fnrw.jpg)
Love this piece of fan art of the Predator. It's a good example I think of the Predator using a human weapon, per se. A bow and arrow is obviously a more primitive weapon than a gun, but it can definitely be seen primarily as a human weapon. No, I don't want to see a Predator going around with a light machine gun spraying and praying, but I can definitely see it using a rifle maybe.
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 11, 2018, 03:08:44 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 11, 2018, 01:32:34 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 11, 2018, 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 11, 2018, 09:49:09 AM
Alright, Wysps or someone needs to send me the actual transcript of this scene. ;D
Not a big deal.
When Fugitive gets free he starts to rampage. Casey backs into the decon chamber where she has to get off her clothes (naked...there is a scene in the trailer, that's exactly this part). The Predator kills almost everyone, beheads Colwell (a scientist) and cuts off his hand. Then he uses the head and hand at the access scanners. He manages to get into the decon chamber when he faces Casey...naked (IIRC). Casey tries to shoot with her tranq gun but it jams and then the Predator kinda laughs and goes by, leaving Casey alive.
That's all.
Fantastic. :laugh:
Honestly as long as Captured is shooting it with one hand I think it will look fine.
I thought you'd be pleased :laugh: I'm hoping for some comic relief here, to break up that long, intense action sequence. And of course...to get some more personality in there Oh yeah 8)
I am very pleased and I just had to spoil it for myself lol. I hope they stick with this or something very similar for the actual movie. It's just the right type of humor to bring to a Predator flick, especially when we are looking to establish personality for the creature. :)
I feel like this movie has taken a lot of concepts from Predator 2 and is just expanding further on them. Which reminds me, for anyone who is either against or on the fence about Predators using human weapons, why do you think Greyback in P2 carried that flintlock pistol on his waist? Cause he liked it. It was a sweet trophy that he probably put to use from time to time.
Quote from: germanator2 on Jul 12, 2018, 03:57:10 AM
(https://pre00.deviantart.net/c23b/th/pre/f/2014/327/5/3/predator_fan_art_by_altocontrastestudio-d87fnrw.jpg)
Love this piece of fan art of the Predator. It's a good example I think of the Predator using a human weapon, per se. A bow and arrow is obviously a more primitive weapon than a gun, but it can definitely be seen primarily as a human weapon. No, I don't want to see a Predator going around with a light machine gun spraying and praying, but I can definitely see it using a rifle maybe.
That's a Predator version of something we know. Just like their swords in Predator 2, or the spears, or the crossbow seen in AVP 2010, or the use of a "gun" in AVP R, or the plasma launchers they used in the original AVP comic operating similar to a grenade launcher.
Wholesale of difference between that and a Predator literally hefting an m60.
I again, I bring up City Hunter's pretty clear reaction to the shotgun in Predator. He picks it up, turns it over, and smashes it like it's nothing. Literally, the entire receiver and grip shatter like they were made of sugar glass.
Quote from: yautjapet on Jul 11, 2018, 11:58:34 PM
I... dig this. ;) I hope it remains as is in the movie!
I would say...part of.
For example, Colwell is replaced with Sean Keyes in the movie,
Spoiler
and Keyes does not die (according to test screening viewers).
So that's already a difference.
But I think the meeting in the decon chamber remains in the final film.
*Added spoiler tags. Hicks.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 12, 2018, 05:33:02 AM
I again, I bring up City Hunter's pretty clear reaction to the shotgun in Predator. He picks it up, turns it over, and smashes it like it's nothing. Literally, the entire receiver and grip shatter like they were made of sugar glass.
I think of that as more of an anger issue over something that has just filled the Predator with lead, not as reaction of disdain against the technology.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 11, 2018, 10:50:38 AM
Quote from: PredBabe on Jul 11, 2018, 09:49:09 AM
Alright, Wysps or someone needs to send me the actual transcript of this scene. ;D
Not a big deal.
When Fugitive gets free he starts to rampage. Casey backs into the decon chamber where she has to get off her clothes (naked...there is a scene in the trailer, that's exactly this part). The Predator kills almost everyone, beheads Colwell (a scientist) and cuts off his hand. Then he uses the head and hand at the access scanners. He manages to get into the decon chamber when he faces Casey...naked (IIRC). Casey tries to shoot with her tranq gun but it jams and then the Predator kinda laughs and goes by, leaving Casey alive.
That's all.
It was more than that, IIRC.
Spoiler
This part, I take issue with in particular:
The Predator cocks its head at her. Is it... smiling?
"Is it... smiling?"
Why do that? I think it's ridiculous, personally.
We already know they need their gear to establish if weapons/people are a threat/worth killing (P2 - "Want some candy?" and pregnant Leona). Here, though, the Pred is 'naked' and it smiles at someone brandishing a 'gun' and doesn't for a second think:
"Hmm that firearm (likely akin to the one used to capture me) is being pointed at my face... best kill her" ?
Instead he thinks:
"Hmm that firearm (likely akin to the one used to capture me) is being pointed at my face.....I know, I'll smile at the nakey lady and be on my merry way!"
Presumably we're supposed to think that because it took Treager's team to capture it that it knows what the tranq guns are/do. But even that opens up more plot hole hell.
But never mind the daft plot holes, WHY ON EARTH WOULD IT 'SMILE' AT HER? I just find it bizarre.
If it was going to do anything even remotely 'Predator-ish', it should've grabbed her by the throat and looked her dead in the eyes like it did Dutch/Harrigan.
/rant
(sorry! - but this part annoyed me BIG TIME!)
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Jul 12, 2018, 10:37:50 AM
The Predator cocks its head at her. Is it... smiling?
Yes, that's why I wrote 'kinda'... I don't know how can they manage to remote control the Predator's mandibles and mouth to mimic a so-called 'smiling'. What the mandibles can do are opening and closing. And the pussy mouth...nothing.
I think if the Predator laughs instead of smiling, it's better solution. We'll see in the theater. :)
Anyway, I think he is smiling because of the gun jam.
Or a more sexual context...he is smiling because Casey is naked. ;)
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 12, 2018, 06:41:00 AM
Quote from: yautjapet on Jul 11, 2018, 11:58:34 PM
I... dig this. ;) I hope it remains as is in the movie!
I would say...part of.
For example, Colwell is replaced with Sean Keyes in the movie,Spoiler
and Keyes does not die (according to test screening viewers).
But I think the meeting in the decon chamber remains in the final film.
Man stop spoiling everytime ! Some folks haven't read the test screening content ! Including me ! Spoiler tags please !
*Added spoiler tags. Hicks.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 12, 2018, 12:29:49 PM
Man stop spoiling everytime ! Some folks haven't read the test screening content ! Including me ! Spoiler tags please !
I'm spoiling without spoiler tag, because this is a spoiler topic...it is in its name.
If you don't want to spoil yourself, do not visit these topics. ;) It is up to you.
In non-spoiler topics I use the spoiler tag, do not worry. :)
Actually it does just say (Spoilers from Script) in the topic title. So spoilers related to the test screenings we could be tagging, please.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 12, 2018, 12:45:12 PM
So spoilers related to the test screenings we could be tagging, please.
Fair enough.
Will act accordingly.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 12, 2018, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Jul 12, 2018, 10:37:50 AM
Spoiler
The Predator cocks its head at her. Is it... smiling?
Spoiler
Yes, that's why I wrote 'kinda'... I don't know how can they manage to remote control the Predator's mandibles and mouth to mimic a so-called 'smiling'. What the mandibles can do are opening and closing. And the pussy mouth...nothing.
I think if the Predator laughs instead of smiling, it's better solution. We'll see in the theater. :)
Anyway, I think he is smiling because of the gun jam.
Or a more sexual context...he is smiling because Casey is naked. ;)
Spoiler
Well the Predator cocks it's head...it doesn't actually smile per se. And judging from the Collider article and the script, I think the way this plays out is more of the Predator symbolically laughing at Munn's character (because of how ridiculous she looks in the situation.) Like, really? Your puny, naked ass is going to try and shoot me?
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 12, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 12, 2018, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Jul 12, 2018, 10:37:50 AM
Spoiler
The Predator cocks its head at her. Is it... smiling?
Spoiler
Yes, that's why I wrote 'kinda'... I don't know how can they manage to remote control the Predator's mandibles and mouth to mimic a so-called 'smiling'. What the mandibles can do are opening and closing. And the pussy mouth...nothing.
I think if the Predator laughs instead of smiling, it's better solution. We'll see in the theater. :)
Anyway, I think he is smiling because of the gun jam.
Or a more sexual context...he is smiling because Casey is naked. ;)
Spoiler
Well the Predator cocks it's head...it doesn't actually smile per se. And judging from the Collider article and the script, I think the way this plays out is more of the Predator symbolically laughing at Munn's character (because of how ridiculous she looks in the situation.) Like, really? Your puny, naked ass is going to try and shoot me?
Not that I don't think she's hot, but it felt like an excuse to get her naked in the film
Quote from: germanator2 on Jul 12, 2018, 02:17:56 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Jul 12, 2018, 01:19:07 PM
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 12, 2018, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Jul 12, 2018, 10:37:50 AM
Spoiler
The Predator cocks its head at her. Is it... smiling?
Spoiler
Yes, that's why I wrote 'kinda'... I don't know how can they manage to remote control the Predator's mandibles and mouth to mimic a so-called 'smiling'. What the mandibles can do are opening and closing. And the pussy mouth...nothing.
I think if the Predator laughs instead of smiling, it's better solution. We'll see in the theater. :)
Anyway, I think he is smiling because of the gun jam.
Or a more sexual context...he is smiling because Casey is naked. ;)
Spoiler
Well the Predator cocks it's head...it doesn't actually smile per se. And judging from the Collider article and the script, I think the way this plays out is more of the Predator symbolically laughing at Munn's character (because of how ridiculous she looks in the situation.) Like, really? Your puny, naked ass is going to try and shoot me?
Not that I don't think she's hot, but it felt like an excuse to get her naked in the film
Yeah...I agree. No harm, no foul I guess ::)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 12, 2018, 07:24:28 AM
I think of that as more of an anger issue over something that has just filled the Predator with lead, not as reaction of disdain against the technology.
Again, it was flimsy and useless as far as he was concerned. That's why he was able to
shatter the entire receiver.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 12, 2018, 07:24:28 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 12, 2018, 05:33:02 AM
I again, I bring up City Hunter's pretty clear reaction to the shotgun in Predator. He picks it up, turns it over, and smashes it like it's nothing. Literally, the entire receiver and grip shatter like they were made of sugar glass.
I think of that as more of an anger issue over something that has just filled the Predator with lead, not as reaction of disdain against the technology.
Yep, that's how I perceive it as well. City Hunter was gonna make sure Harrigan couldn't use that gun again.
Again I bring up the older predator at the end of P2 with the flintlock pistol. They probably admire weapons of all types but if they had to choose, the obvious answer would be their own technology. Clearly that's not what's going on here and we have a Predator stripped of his tech and armor while surrounded by threats, in an unfamiliar place, who have their own armor and weapons. The logical thing for Captured to do is to make use of what he finds.
Quote from: Xerxész on Jul 12, 2018, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: funk_master_chunk on Jul 12, 2018, 10:37:50 AM
The Predator cocks its head at her. Is it... smiling?
Yes, that's why I wrote 'kinda'... I don't know how can they manage to remote control the Predator's mandibles and mouth to mimic a so-called 'smiling'. What the mandibles can do are opening and closing. And the pussy mouth...nothing.
I think if the Predator laughs instead of smiling, it's better solution. We'll see in the theater. :)
Anyway, I think he is smiling because of the gun jam.
Or a more sexual context...he is smiling because Casey is naked. ;)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hsSSAk7Sjc0
I agree with Wysps though. It was just an amusing moment because he probably sees it as ridiculous. Maybe he'll do is purr/click sound :laugh:
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 12, 2018, 03:21:51 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 12, 2018, 07:24:28 AM
I think of that as more of an anger issue over something that has just filled the Predator with lead, not as reaction of disdain against the technology.
Again, it was flimsy and useless as far as he was concerned. That's why he was able to shatter the entire receiver.
That really doesn't jive within the context of that scene. It reads more like anger at the tool that caused him injury.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 12, 2018, 07:07:21 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 12, 2018, 03:21:51 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 12, 2018, 07:24:28 AM
I think of that as more of an anger issue over something that has just filled the Predator with lead, not as reaction of disdain against the technology.
Again, it was flimsy and useless as far as he was concerned. That's why he was able to shatter the entire receiver.
That really doesn't jive within the context of that scene. It reads more like anger at the tool that caused him injury.
While I can't immediately visualize the gun being smashed, if the receiver did indeed "shatter" it was likely due to it being a plastic prop of some sort. No doubt it was a Remington, which should have a steel receiver. So predator strength or not, it should've bent. Not shattered.
Of course, it was also shatter if effected by the liquid nitro. But it wasn't, I don't believe.
(https://i.imgur.com/8lvWqC2.gif)
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 12, 2018, 07:26:26 PM
While I can't immediately visualize the gun being smashed, if the receiver did indeed "shatter" it was likely due to it being a plastic prop of some sort. No doubt it was a Remington, which should have a steel receiver. So predator strength or not, it should've bent. Not shattered.
Well yeah, but that's kinda my point. He regards it, and then smashes it as if to show just how pathetic it is to him.
I mean, yeah, i'm sure he was angry that he got injured, but that's clearly a demonstration of his strength (to the audience).
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 13, 2018, 12:38:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/8lvWqC2.gif)
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 12, 2018, 07:26:26 PM
While I can't immediately visualize the gun being smashed, if the receiver did indeed "shatter" it was likely due to it being a plastic prop of some sort. No doubt it was a Remington, which should have a steel receiver. So predator strength or not, it should've bent. Not shattered.
Well yeah, but that's kinda my point. He regards it, and then smashes it as if to show just how pathetic it is to him.
I mean, yeah, i'm sure he was angry that he got injured, but that's clearly a demonstration of his strength (to the audience).
Apparently, it was a Benelli m1 Super 90.
He liked to keep it handy, for close encounters.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Jul 13, 2018, 01:15:53 AM
He liked to keep it handy, for close encounters.
Well, he got about as close as you can get. Any closer, and he'd have been picking pred boogies.