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Title: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: frasermaxx on May 10, 2018, 06:21:01 PM
I just saw a high res pic of the unmasked predator on Empire online seems like these predators don't have quills, either on their face or body. It's like they've been waxed. It was a unique feature of the predators wonder why they took it out.
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: OpenMaw on May 10, 2018, 06:48:00 PM
Because ADI just doesn't know how to make Predators, it seems.
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 06:59:15 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on May 10, 2018, 06:48:00 PM
Because ADI just doesn't know how to make Predators, it seems.
It's not like they operate without instructions... they even could be added in post.
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 07:23:08 PM
ADI created the worst predator in history
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)


Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: Lionhart on May 10, 2018, 07:23:51 PM
thats one ugly MF
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 07:45:36 PM
really ugly... in a bad way
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 07:23:08 PM
ADI created the worst predator in history
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)

True, but to be fair the magnificent Paul Anderson asked them to do it this way, a more friendly/heroic/less agressive face... You can retrieve articles of Anderson specifically mentioning that...
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: whiterabbit on May 10, 2018, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 10, 2018, 07:23:51 PM
thats one ugly MF
Millennium Falcon?

I don't know, it sort of looks like a non threatening guy pal who would never push a women's personal boundaries.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 07:23:08 PM
ADI created the worst predator in history
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)

True, but to be fair the magnificent Paul Anderson asked them to do it this way, a more friendly/heroic/less agressive face... You can retrieve articles of Anderson specifically mentioning that...
Oh snap, so that was the point.
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 09:14:06 PM
Horrendous indeed. Wolf wasn't too much better to be fair, despite it's sculptor...
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: Original Predator on May 10, 2018, 09:23:16 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 07:23:08 PM
ADI created the worst predator in history
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)

True, but to be fair the magnificent Paul Anderson asked them to do it this way, a more friendly/heroic/less agressive face... You can retrieve articles of Anderson specifically mentioning that...

Yup, the "friendly" pred started there.  Now we are stuck with it/them.
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 09:14:06 PM
Horrendous indeed. Wolf wasn't too much better to be fair, despite it's sculptor...

and didn't Wolf have a blind eye... yet he has perfect vision... mask was pretty nice but I like the more tribal ones.
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 09:41:09 PM
Quote from: Xan21 on May 10, 2018, 09:38:45 PM
Quote from: skull-splitter on May 10, 2018, 09:14:06 PM
Horrendous indeed. Wolf wasn't too much better to be fair, despite it's sculptor...

and didn't Wolf have a blind eye... yet he has perfect vision... mask was pretty nice but I like the more tribal ones.
Agreed. I like more of a blend between tribal and stylised tech, the ADI predators always looked a bit too clean compared to the Winston ones.

Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: The Shuriken on May 10, 2018, 10:57:27 PM
I imagine the quills are something related to gentics. Some Predators have them, others don't. Maybe it's related to age? Or health?
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: PredBabe on May 11, 2018, 01:30:26 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on May 10, 2018, 09:03:20 PM
Quote from: Lionhart on May 10, 2018, 07:23:51 PM
thats one ugly MF
Millennium Falcon?

I don't know, it sort of looks like a non threatening guy pal who would never push a women's personal boundaries.

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 07:23:08 PM
ADI created the worst predator in history
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)

True, but to be fair the magnificent Paul Anderson asked them to do it this way, a more friendly/heroic/less agressive face... You can retrieve articles of Anderson specifically mentioning that...
Oh snap, so that was the point.

I believe "romantic" was the term used to describe those extra long and lucious dreadlocks.  :-* :P

Quote from: Original Predator on May 10, 2018, 09:23:16 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 07:23:08 PM
ADI created the worst predator in history
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)

True, but to be fair the magnificent Paul Anderson asked them to do it this way, a more friendly/heroic/less agressive face... You can retrieve articles of Anderson specifically mentioning that...

Yup, the "friendly" pred started there.  Now we are stuck with it/them.

Oooh come on it's a guilty pleasure, no?  ;D
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: OpenMaw on May 11, 2018, 01:46:58 AM
Paul Anderson used the word "heroic" because Scar was intended as more of an anti-hero.

But the faults with that Predator are not just that he has longer dreds and human eyes. The former wouldn't even be an issue.


It's the structure of the lower jaw, the texture of the skin is absolutely off. Even with the creative changes in place, the skin is just wrong. It looks like dry foam rubber. It lacks all of the moisture and leathery qualities of the first two Predators. The KNB guys made a few mistakes of their own, but that wasn't one of them. Their classic Predator looked a lot closer to proper.

This is what I was afraid of with ADI, unfortunately. They just don't know how to pull off the convincing skin, and knowing ADI I betcha the quills were simply eliminated because they were a pain in the ass (for some reason).
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: PredBabe on May 11, 2018, 04:21:50 AM
I was more referencing Tom Woodruff as he and someone else (forget their name) explained why they made the dreads longer which was to make the leading character more "romantic".  But no, longer dreads are not at all an issue.

I don't think the Empire still of the maskless Predator looked bad, though the missing quills/eyebrows is disappointing. Maybe it's just that particular Predator or that picture.
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: Actual Hybrid on May 11, 2018, 04:33:13 AM
Taken care of by casting "woodhursts aide"  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: dallevalle on May 11, 2018, 06:16:59 AM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 10, 2018, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on May 10, 2018, 07:23:08 PM
ADI created the worst predator in history
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/f/f7/Cute_face_Scar.png/revision/latest?cb=20160217203930)


True, but to be fair the magnificent Paul Anderson asked them to do it this way, a more friendly/heroic/less agressive face... You can retrieve articles of Anderson specifically mentioning that...

yeah paul anderson downplayed the predators because he was more of an alien fan.
Title: Re: Quills missing on the Predator
Post by: Ultramorph on May 11, 2018, 02:29:58 PM
I always associated quills with elder Preds because of the crazy quills on the elder in AVP, so I just assume the captive Pred isn't that old.