Came across this article from Indiewire sourcing The Daily Beast. Wow! That's all I'll say.
Knowing how Scott cut out Spacey for his last film, if third Alien prequel film ever gets done, we might not be seeing Fassy at all. Or they just scrap Covenant and follow Rapace's storyline.
http://www.indiewire.com/2018/02/michael-fassbender-abuse-allegations-sunawin-leasi-andrews-1201927946/
Just did a search... yeah this doesn't look good:
- Claims of violent abuse from Michael Fassbender's ex-girlfriend resurface: "I could not walk." (https://www.someecards.com/entertainment/celebrities/michael-fassbender-domestic-violence/)
- Allegations that Michael Fassbender broke an ex-girlfriend's nose and later dragged her alongside a car have resurfaced due to a 2010 court filing (http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-fassbender-domestic-abuse-allegation-resurfaces-report-2018-2)
- Shock abuse allegations against Michael Fassbender resurface (http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/celebrities-gone-bad/shock-abuse-allegations-against-michael-fassbender-resurface/news-story/1a0c56a05e14e967c72c5f7b5fee5baa)
- Michael Fassbender's ex claims actor abused her twice, broke her nose, burst an ovarian cyst (https://www.irishcentral.com/news/michael-fassbender-s-ex-claims-actor-attacked-her-twice-broke-her-nose-burst-an-ovarian-cyst)
- Michael Fassbender: Decade-old domestic abuse allegations resurface (https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/02/12/michael-fassbender-decade-old-domestic-abuse-allegations-resurface/)
Well, Scott has washed his hands of this kind of person before, hopefully he does so again, with
Alien.
What an utter scumbag.
I agree. It's disgusting.
Seeing how Scott is ramping up to shoot Merlin for Disney with the speculation that this bridge film is for him to shoot his third Alien film, Disney wanting a hefty return, and lack of controversy, they'll tell Scott cut Fassbender loose and regroup on what to do next.
Wow, that's terrible. The reckoning continues for Hollywood stars' bad behavior.
Sports/entertainment folk and politicians are dropping like flies in wholesale quantity over this latest wave.
The Purge.
If it turns out that these allegations are true (and it seems like they are) then he should face the consequences. It's weird, this whole thing. I don't know how this wave started, but I'm glad it did. We have known that famous people often abuse their power for a long time now. I still can't believe that they're finally getting called out for it, especially the toxic behavior of men. I just hope that no false allegations are thrown out there for the publicity or as a way to ruin someones reputation.
Whatever the case may be, people have to understand that doing bad things will ruin their career and that they can't hide their misdeeds forever. Don't hide it, don't ignore it, just don't do it.
Suddenly everyone is a bad guy, everyone is a victim. Not buying it. I will still hold this man in high regard until solid proof and conviction.
"Suddenly"?
Decades of men abusing their power and you whinge about them being finally called out?
I thought this was fake because there wasn't any proof or something. But if it's real... f*ck. I hope it's not.
Quote from: Jango1201 on Feb 15, 2018, 03:00:20 AM
I will still hold this man in high regard until solid proof and conviction.
How about solid proof without conviction?
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2018, 03:15:03 AM
"Suddenly"?
Decades of men abusing their power and you whinge about them being finally called out?
Finally? Many people of power have been called out before everyone decided to jump on this band wagon. I still believe in innocent until proven guilty.
This looks like bullshit to me, but if Fassbender is guilty then he is guilty. Then again, we don't know all the details about this, I wouldn't be so quick to jump on the bandwagon.
Bottom line about all this is that women (not just women, though) have to stop being victims, AND .... men (not just men though) have to quit their bad behaviour.
I still hope he returns as David because it's a great performance.
QuoteBottom line about all this is that women (not just women, though) have to stop being victims,
Right? It's like, geez, just don't get the shit beat out of you by an abusive partner! How do women not get this?
It's not as simple as that, SiL. I don't know what kind of politics you follow but maybe you should pull your head out of it for a bit and look at the real world.
This is bad. Makes watching the X-Men and Prometheus movies in a new light.
"However the Irish Mail on Sunday can reveal that the woman who is threatening the 32-year-old Irishman's reputation and, indeed, his very livelihood, is herself a woman with a troubled and somewhat seedy past. The model has had a string of lovers including an internet porn baron and a married man; she has children by different fathers, her first as an 18-year-old; and her early years were spent posing for 'erotic' lesbian pictures,"
Victim shaming, the publication went on to state, "Nor was it the only instance of domestic violence in Miss Andrews's chequered past. Indeed, much of her history seems to suggest that, either she suffers from a persecution complex—or else she genuinely brings out the worst in men."
Andrews told the Daily Beast that she has never been involved in X-rated work or modeling, only posing for swimsuit and lingerie campaigns.
She also confirmed that in 2005 she obtained a restraining order against her boyfriend Seth Warshavsky, an Internet porn magnate, after he choked and attacked her in front of her then 6-year-old child.
https://www.irishcentral.com/news/michael-fassbender-s-ex-claims-actor-attacked-her-twice-broke-her-nose-burst-an-ovarian-cyst
If the above is accurate, girl doesn't sound legit to me.
That's called a 'victim-shaming smear'.
Quote
Bottom line about all this is that women (not just women, though) have to stop being victims
And that is possibly the most utterly f**king moronic thing you've ever posted.
Quote from: Jango1201 on Feb 15, 2018, 07:45:07 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2018, 03:15:03 AM
"Suddenly"?
Decades of men abusing their power and you whinge about them being finally called out?
Finally? Many people of power have been called out before everyone decided to jump on this band wagon. I still believe in innocent until proven guilty.
Fortunately Scorpio's post make your drivel seem a little less dense.
Quote from: Scorpio on Feb 15, 2018, 08:30:44 AM
Bottom line about all this is that women (not just women, though) have to stop being victims
Wow. I think we should all stop and take a moment to marvel at the sheer idiocy of that statement. I've had the misfortune to read a lot of dumb shit on the internet, but that is gold medal standard.
I don't understand what's so wrong about that, I am trying to say that women have to act as well to stop themselves being victims, not blaming them at all. Since they are adults capable of making rational decisions.
But this is a sensitive topic and people do tend to blow things out of proportion.
'She should've made a rational decision to get out the way of my fist'.
What you're saying is dumber than dogshit, and you really should stop while your behind.
Quote from: Scorpio on Feb 15, 2018, 09:49:54 AM
I don't understand what's so wrong about that, I am trying to say that women have to act as well to stop themselves being victims, not blaming them at all. Since they are adults capable of making rational decisions.
But this is a sensitive topic and people do tend to blow things out of proportion.
If you don't understand what's so wrong about your comments, I'd respectfully suggest that this subject isn't for you.
Tell us where you stand then, instead of acting triggered at the slightest comment that might offend political correctness. Even though it isn't.
Quote from: Scorpio on Feb 15, 2018, 08:49:36 AM
It's not as simple as that, SiL.
But that's what
you said.
You said women need to stop being victims. I was agreeing with you -- it's absolutely their fault for not getting out of the way of their abuse partner's rages, and it's frankly astounding they haven't realised this yet. They should do more.
It's really about how someone views women, SiL. I don't have any particular view on women, there are all kinds.
It seems to me like you view them a certain way, perhaps this is more harmful than you would like to admit?
I really don't understand. I'm agreeing with everything you're saying, and you're trying to turn it against me? Are you bipolar? Are you just being contrarian for the sake of it? ???
I could've sworn you were being sarcastic. My mistake.
No, for real, I'm totally with you on the victim blaming, dude.
And how do you determine who is and who isn't a victim?
Well when one person chokes and beats another, the person who was choked and beaten is the victim of the attack. And it's their fault for being a victim. They should have not been a victim instead, then the whole situation would solve itself.
We don't even know all the facts around this case. There's been no trial or confession.
Why are you so quick to believe media hyperbole?
What are you talking about? I'm speaking in general terms. If someone is strangled and choked then they're a victim, and they should be doing more to not be a victim. The quickest and most sensible solution to domestic violence is for the victims of domestic violence to just stop being victims.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 15, 2018, 10:55:28 AM
If someone is strangled and choked then they're a victim,
Not necessarily.
And why are you acting facetious?
I'm not ???
You said that people need to not be victims and I'm agreeing with you. Why are you reacting so poorly to your own logic ???
And I'm agreeing with you, SiL. All men are inherently evil and therefore guilty, and women are innocent angels who can do no wrong.
Is that not your angle? Am I missing something?
You haven't agreed with me about anything. All you've done is attack me for agreeing with you when you said victims need to not be victims.
If they cut him out of Covenant they lose two characters at one blow. :D
Sad thing is this is old news, just that no one gave a damn when it first came out.
Alright Scorpio. I think between that disgusting display and my lack of remaining patience with your persistent attitude, it's time you took a timeout.
This seems worse what Spacey did imo, tough Spacey had multiple victims. Both are disgusting needless to say.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 15, 2018, 07:28:05 PM
Alright Scorpio. I think between that disgusting display and my lack of remaining patience with your persistent attitude, it's time you took a timeout.
ahaahahahahaha
That's why I only read this site a 1-2 times over a several months and don't write at all. (plus the rabid fanboys)
Scorpio hasn't done anything that warrants a timeout and you're actually way out of line. The past few years, having in mind I visit the site/forum extremely rarely, it's astonishing that I stumble on you "timing out" someone out of nowhere over an a mere arguing or let's say misunderstanding, while doing so apparently defending the "old" members.
Better watch that trigger happy attitude cause it's pretty childlike/laughable...
Quote from: Agent on Feb 15, 2018, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 15, 2018, 07:28:05 PM
Alright Scorpio. I think between that disgusting display and my lack of remaining patience with your persistent attitude, it's time you took a timeout.
ahaahahahahaha
That's why I only read this site a 1-2 times over a several months and don't write at all. (plus the rabid fanboys)
Scorpio hasn't done anything that warrants a timeout and you're actually way out of line. The past few years, having in mind I visit the site/forum extremely rarely, it's astonishing that I stumble on you "timing out" someone out of nowhere over an a mere arguing or let's say misunderstanding, while doing so apparently defending the "old" members.
Better watch that trigger happy attitude cause it's pretty childlike/laughable...
The only thing laughable and childlike is your post.
I certainly got a chuckle from the lack of self awareness.
If his timeout is less than "a 1-2 times over a several months" he won't even notice it though.
If anyone is extremely reasonable, it's Corporal...
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Feb 15, 2018, 11:59:21 PM
If anyone is extremely reasonable, it's Corporal...
I don't see how reasonable was his decision over that timeout, if Scorpio was "deserved" - he should timeout SiL also, which would be nonsense too.
But hey - look at the other predictable + passive aggressive comments. Something additional to "chuckle" at. ;)
It was a variety of thing. Straw, meet camel's back. He'd been warned repeatedly.
But hey, feel free to drop in out of nowhere, profess your ignorance, then condescend people.
Take it easy with the ignorance/condescend stuff and give that "smartass" attitude a break. The same goes for the previous guys hilarious posts.
About the 2nd part:
Could have been a variety of (past) things, I don't care about that. (cause it dosn't matter)
It dosnt matter when the "straw" Hicks is imagining that breaks the line is non-existant. The conversation you had in this particular thread warrants nothing.
Thats great, we finally get a break from Scorpio's incessant baiting and in comes Agent to fill the void.
Don't worry, dude. I said what I wanted and finished it with the last post.
Might be best start your own forum you can moderate instead of telling people that they're not running their own properly.
Or take it up with Hicks via PM.
Quote from: Agent on Feb 16, 2018, 02:10:21 AM
Don't worry, dude. I said what I wanted and finished it with the last post.
Hell of a first impression. Bravo.
Nerd fight!
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Quote from: Agent on Feb 16, 2018, 01:42:12 AM
Take it easy with the ignorance/condescend stuff and give that "smartass" attitude a break
You claimed your ignorance by making a huge point of how little you're here and you were condescending. If you don't like people pointing out your own actions, change your attitude to something you find less offensive :D
Fassbender off the hook.
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It's over already?
Quote from: Agent on Feb 15, 2018, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 15, 2018, 07:28:05 PM
Alright Scorpio. I think between that disgusting display and my lack of remaining patience with your persistent attitude, it's time you took a timeout.
ahaahahahahaha
That's why I only read this site a 1-2 times over a several months and don't write at all. (plus the rabid fanboys)
Scorpio hasn't done anything that warrants a timeout and you're actually way out of line. The past few years, having in mind I visit the site/forum extremely rarely, it's astonishing that I stumble on you "timing out" someone out of nowhere over an a mere arguing or let's say misunderstanding, while doing so apparently defending the "old" members.
Better watch that trigger happy attitude cause it's pretty childlike/laughable...
First off, thank you for commenting about how little you're here and how little you're actually aware of the situation and an on-going issue. Also, evidently you never read our forum rules so I would suggest you first go there - https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=3.0 - particularly these ones -
Quote- We also reserve the right to ban anyone who violates the forum rules. A banned user may also be banned from the rest of the site if deemed necessary.
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- Trolling will not be tolerated here. Trolls will be banned.
- There is absolutely nothing wrong with differing opinions or disagreements. What we expect to see are people discussing their reasonings in a mature fashion. Insulting others, trolling, immature behavior in the course of these discussions aren't tolerated. They aren't interesting to read or to take part in. These are adult movies, let's ensure we act like adults.
If you're unable to abide by or disagree with these, I'd suggest you cut down that 1 or 2 times over month to no times at all.
I can't believe I'm saying this but take it to pm already man. It's becoming dog eat dog. :'(
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 16, 2018, 02:45:26 AM
Fassbender off the hook.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6IwJOtCFQsG4w/giphy.gif
How? Have the allegations been discredited and proven false, as in no medical records? Or that the injuries in the medical records don't align with the actions being accused of Fassbender?
Wow how is this the first time I've heard about this?? None of the media I follow wrote articles and they wrote about the Franco, Jeffrey Tambor and even Aziz scandals. Fassbender wasn't even on my radar until today.
Disturbing...
Wow... broke her nose... that's disgusting. Very disappointing to hear this about the guy.
Maybe Fassbender could start a club, have a surprise party for Kevin Spacey, Hannibal Lecter can do the catering, and then they'll have a christening for Harvey Weinstein's baby! Hold a Bat Mitzvah for Al Franken! All Michael has to do is snap his fingers and they'll be there. They're lining up to get there, and do you know why? Should I tell you why? Hmm? Because there, in that club, the bad guys can win! . . . . ;)
Quote from: Biomechanoid on Feb 16, 2018, 09:34:42 PM
Maybe Fassbender could start a club, have a surprise party for Kevin Spacey, Hannibal Lecter can do the catering, and then they'll have a christening for Harvey Weinstein's baby! Hold a Bat Mitzvah for Al Franken! All Michael has to do is snap his fingers and they'll be there. They're lining up to get there, and do you know why? Should I tell you why? Hmm? Because there, in that club, the bad guys can win! . . . . ;)
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quote from: Hollywood on Feb 16, 2018, 07:33:21 PM
Wow how is this the first time I've heard about this?? None of the media I follow wrote articles and they wrote about the Franco, Jeffrey Tambor and even Aziz scandals. Fassbender wasn't even on my radar until today.
Disturbing...
True, i don't know why this hasn't made much noise sooner...
Quote from: 0321recon on Feb 13, 2018, 05:35:20 PM
I agree. It's disgusting.
Seeing how Scott is ramping up to shoot Merlin for Disney with the speculation that this bridge film is for him to shoot his third Alien film, Disney wanting a hefty return, and lack of controversy, they'll tell Scott cut Fassbender loose and regroup on what to do next.
What's truly disgusting is how ready modern feminists are ready to condemn a man when allegations are raised against him on social media.
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2018, 03:15:03 AM
"Suddenly"?
Decades of men abusing their power and you whinge about them being finally called out?
That's not the issue and you know it, but you're trying to skirt around it because you have a political agenda. Nobody thinks men in power abusing their power shouldn't be called out and/or punished, but when you use the campaign to justify social media hetzes and de facto convictions based on allegations that may not even be true, that's being a feminazi vulture.
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2018, 09:37:23 AM
That's called a 'victim-shaming smear'.
Quote
Bottom line about all this is that women (not just women, though) have to stop being victims
And that is possibly the most utterly f**king moronic thing you've ever posted.
Quote from: Jango1201 on Feb 15, 2018, 07:45:07 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2018, 03:15:03 AM
"Suddenly"?
Decades of men abusing their power and you whinge about them being finally called out?
Finally? Many people of power have been called out before everyone decided to jump on this band wagon. I still believe in innocent until proven guilty.
Fortunately Scorpio's post make your drivel seem a little less dense.
No, it's called perspective, but of course for people who get off on ruining people on social media the easiest thing is just to accuse people of victim shaming. Now that's smearing.
Quote from: SM on Feb 15, 2018, 09:55:00 AM
'She should've made a rational decision to get out the way of my fist'.
What you're saying is dumber than dogshit, and you really should stop while your behind.
Is it though? There have been story's about e.g. a Jewish student painting a swastika on her dorm door so she could say she had been the victim of a hate crime. I don't think anybody with a clear mind doubts that there are many people in the current leftist climate who have a victim complex, which just detracts from the actual socio-cultural issues that campaigns such as metoo are supposed (do) to expose.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 15, 2018, 07:28:05 PM
Alright Scorpio. I think between that disgusting display and my lack of remaining patience with your persistent attitude, it's time you took a timeout.
I'm pretty sure I posted a post here on the first page. Did you delete that one? Also, isn't it interesting how only Covenant defenders seem to get banned? Definitely seems a bit biased in here. Scorpio did nothing out of order (aside from maybe being a bit blunt) unless you willfully interpret his statement in a certain way.
Quote from: Agent on Feb 16, 2018, 12:52:42 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Feb 15, 2018, 11:59:21 PM
If anyone is extremely reasonable, it's Corporal...
I don't see how reasonable was his decision over that timeout, if Scorpio was "deserved" - he should timeout SiL also, which would be nonsense too.
But hey - look at the other predictable + passive aggressive comments. Something additional to "chuckle" at. ;)
I agree, the environment here is pretty toxic. Look at how eager all these veteran posters were to gang up on Scorpio, despite him keeping a civil tone all the way.
Anyway, I'll probably be banned for this or have my post deleted, so I don't even know why I spent the time writing out this post. All I know is that I'm waiting for further evidence before condemning Michael Fassbender. It doesn't make sense that there's only one woman who makes these accusations while every other girlfriend of his say he's the sweetest man ever. If other exes start coming out, then I'll reconsider, like a rational human being.
I think perhaps you should've taken the hint when your first post got deleted.
Quote from: tleilaxu on Feb 16, 2018, 09:56:35 PM
Scorpio did nothing out of order (aside from maybe being a bit blunt) unless you willfully interpret his statement in a certain way.
Scorpio was trolling. It's against the rules, the Corporal made the right call. End of story.
Quote from: tleilaxu on Feb 16, 2018, 09:56:35 PM
Also, isn't it interesting how only Covenant haters seem to get banned?
Scorpio likes Covenant. It's assholes and idiots (like yourself) that get banned.
If you mean I'm the kind of person who doesn't dismiss a woman's claim that she got beaten up out of hand and blaming farcical feminazi conspiracies, then I hope it does show the kind of person I am.
I have no power to ban anyone. Or recommend banning anyone. The mods are quite capable of making their own decisions.
I can report posts the same as anyone else. I did not report yours.
I'm sorry you think I'd love to get you banned, but I don't recall any of our interactions off hand - at least recently. I have found your tone to be often angry and not really fun or informative to engage with.
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Quote from: SM on Feb 16, 2018, 10:17:28 PM
If you mean I'm the kind of person who doesn't dismiss a woman's claim that she got beaten up out of hand and blaming farcical feminazi conspiracies, then I hope it does show the kind of person I am.
I have no power to ban anyone. Or recommend banning anyone. The mods are quite capable of making their own decisions.
I can report posts the same as anyone else. I did not report yours.
The thing is, when it's only one person making the allegations it's word against word. Her story sounds horrible but when she's the only one speaking out and it seems she has a background with these sort of thing, the allegations are just not believable enough. It's not like Kevin Spacey or Harvey where multiple victims came out. You'd think a man with a penchant for violence would have a hard time reining in his nature so why is she the only one over all these years? Something doesn't sit right.
Quote from: SM on Feb 16, 2018, 10:17:28 PM
I did not report yours.
I interpreted your post in the other thread as your admission of this. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
The reason none of this made headway was because it was settled out of court for an undisclosed amount of money.
Well this thread was enjoyable with my morning coffee, hardly took a sip! Scorp on the sidelines!
QuoteI'm pretty sure I posted a post here on the first page. Did you delete that one? Also, isn't it interesting how only Covenant defenders seem to get banned? Definitely seems a bit biased in here. Scorpio did nothing out of order (aside from maybe being a bit blunt) unless you willfully interpret his statement in a certain way.
I'm pretty sure if your previous post got deleted it's because you're taking a topic about domestic abuse and trying to turn it into Covenant fans being victimized on this site.
QuoteScorpio was trolling.
I doubt Scorpio is actually trolling that often, at least not always on purpose. He has a special way of expressing his opinion though which on top does not always seem to be 100% "on the level".
On the other side i think he
gets trolled a lot because of the latter and thats just shabby.
This is old news. A decade old.
Yes it's shit, if he hasn't changed.
His ex only came after him once he became famous, why not beforehand? I am glad she got some recompense, she deserves something for the trauma he put her through.
Fassy is married now and I hope Alicia won't take shit from him.
He doesn't have to be a repeat abuser to be an abuser in a relationship. I hope there isn't a repeated pattern of behaviour he has managed to hush up.
Ridley has worked with violent and abusive actors before, for example Russell Crowe.
I do not condone domestic violence. And I always believe it's never too late to change or try to reverse said behaviours.
The girlfriend didn't come out in public just now to make the allegation of the conflict years ago. She filed for a restraining order back in 2010 right after the attack. The story of this incident is actually what just resurfaced, regarding the conflict that happened years ago. Apparently the judge thought there was enough evidence to grant her the restraining order.
Heavy use of alcohol on Fassbender's part is what provoked the conflict according to her. All she wanted was reimbursement for her medical bills, which were only around 20k, so clearly she wasn't gold digging. What they settled out of court on, if any, I don't know.
Quote from: Agent on Feb 16, 2018, 12:52:42 AM
I don't see how reasonable was his decision over that timeout, if Scorpio was "deserved" - he should timeout SiL also, which would be nonsense too.
That's an inaccurate comparison. What may appear to you as Sil sticking his nose in and browbeating another member, is in fact.......... as he likes to polish it, "confronting behavior." A thread scouring forum hero..... ;)
Poking one of the "Good Ol' Boys" aside, moderation inconsistency comes with the territory of human moderated forums. No group of people can keep up flawless consistency.
IMDB's old forum used a Perl or script engine to do the moderation. A computer program, a not so intelligent A.I. doing people's work. Members found ways to circumvent it and abuse it easy enough. So Human moderation to A.I. moderation........that's just exchanging one set of problems for another set of problems.
You have to look at the mod squad's overall monitoring, not the pluses and minuses, and AVPG'S mod squad have done a pretty good job. It's a thankless job that can stress you out, I know that firsthand years ago.
Today....if I was given the ultimatum to moderate a forum or have my pecker stapled to a burning wall, I would serious consider the latter. :laugh:
QuoteHis ex only came after him once he became famous, why not beforehand?
The incidents happened in 2009 and she sought a protection order in early 2010.
1st Forum Rule is pretty simple: Be Nice & Respectful
I don't see anything there about liking or disliking Alien: Covenant.
Yes these are highly-sensitive cultural and political topics but if you're going to disagree then do it without the insults.
Quote from: Biomechanoid on Feb 17, 2018, 01:48:14 AM
That's an inaccurate comparison. What may appear to you as Sil sticking his nose in and browbeating another member, is in fact.......... as he likes to polish it, "confronting behavior." A thread scouring forum hero..... ;
All I did was agree with the guy ???
Quote from: SiL on Feb 17, 2018, 06:42:29 AM
All I did was agree with the guy ???
Well, if it's any consolation, my browbeating is no different than yours.
.............But, I finally embraced my hypocrisy. :P
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 16, 2018, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: tleilaxu on Feb 16, 2018, 09:56:35 PM
Also, isn't it interesting how only Covenant haters seem to get banned?
Scorpio likes Covenant. It's assholes and idiots (like yourself) that get banned.
At the end of the day this is what it amounts to. You're one of those ones I'm watching because of your attitude and I'm teetering on the edge of giving you a timeout too. Not that they ever matter. I'm sure Scorpio or yourself will just come back with the same behaviour and I'll just have to issue a complete ban.
I also find it an absolute riot how people who love Covenant complain that only people who love Covenant are getting told off or banned. Or how people who hate Covenant complain it's only people who hate Covenant are getting banned. Get over yourselves.
If you're unable to act like an adult or think that because this is an internet forum gives you the right to behave like an ass then this board isn't the place for you. Comeon guys, it's people like you that take the fun out of running this place.
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 17, 2018, 01:11:43 AM
QuoteScorpio was trolling.
I doubt Scorpio is actually trolling that often, at least not always on purpose. He has a special way of expressing his opinion though which on top does not always seem to be 100% "on the level".
On the other side i think he gets trolled a lot because of the latter and thats just shabby.
As far as I'm concerned he's a troll. And displays trolling behaviour on a near enough daily basis. He's lucky I've let him go on for so long. I think I'm too lenient when it comes to some of the behaviour on here.
Quote from: Biomechanoid on Feb 17, 2018, 01:48:14 AM
You have to look at the mod squad's overall monitoring, not the pluses and minuses, and AVPG'S mod squad have done a pretty good job. It's a thankless job that can stress you out, I know that firsthand years ago.
Too right.
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 17, 2018, 01:11:43 AM
QuoteScorpio was trolling.
I doubt Scorpio is actually trolling that often, at least not always on purpose. He has a special way of expressing his opinion though which on top does not always seem to be 100% "on the level".
On the other side i think he gets trolled a lot because of the latter and thats just shabby.
He's a bit like former member Hubbs. A low-key troll.
And statements like the one quoted below are most certainly intended to provoke an emotional response, and he knows it.
Quote from: Scorpio on Feb 15, 2018, 08:30:44 AM
Bottom line about all this is that women (not just women, though) have to stop being victims
QuoteAnd statements like the one quoted below are most certainly intended to provoke an emotional response, and he knows it.
There's a neutral, simply factual (existential) interpretation to the statement though (they need to stop
being victims, and its
everyones task to bring society closer to this pressing goal). He didnt write "stop acting like victims" or "stop behaving like victims", which would render it one dimensional retarded no doubt.
But of course everyone ascribes the pure negative version to him as his obvious (cause what, its Scorpio?) intention and he gets trolled galore in a typical imdb/4chan/reddit fashion. And thats just disgusting behavior in its own right.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 17, 2018, 05:00:45 PM
He's a bit like former member Hubbs. A low-key troll. And statements like the one quoted below are most certainly intended to provoke an emotional response, and he knows it.
There are very few members here who don't have some degree of troll in them, not excluding myself. But if you want to play, whether you think what is fair or not, you simply can't ignore the warnings. In 10 years here I have never been warned, but it would be foolish to keep getting warnings and respond back with the very thing they got warned about. Scorpio pushed that too far.
But I offer the suggestion that one way the mod squad can nurture a more adult like forum atmosphere is lead by example. Currently any member who has an issue with a mod action, it's handled by private message discreetly, or at least they are instructed to. No other members are able to see the exchange. Good policy.
Expand that practice of good policy by handling reprimands discreetly. Publicly warning members, or announcing they banned a member, or a moderator name calling a member as a troll, is not a great example of discretion. There is absolutely no reason I can think of for the rest of us to even know a member was placed in the penalty box.
Public admonishment is something you see for unruly kids in a class room. If you reprimand a member publicly like a child, good chance it will promote an antagonistic response. If you want an adult like forum environment, adult like discretion can only help to achieve that. I hope they receive this as a respectful suggestion.
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 17, 2018, 08:07:22 PM
QuoteAnd statements like the one quoted below are most certainly intended to provoke an emotional response, and he knows it.
There's a neutral, simply factual (existential) interpretation to the statement though (they need to stop being victims, and its everyones task to bring society closer to this pressing goal). He didnt write "stop acting like victims" or "stop behaving like victims", which would render it one dimensional retarded no doubt.
You're kidding right?
Yeah, it's mindboggling - especially in this current environment - that some people can still think it's simply a matter of 'stop being a victim'.
I guess in the "current environment" im definitely gonna be accused of ascribing co-responsibility to the children if i write:
Especially children need to stop being victims of violence in warlike situations.
I better report myself for this shameful view.
edit: Nonsense! Co-responsibility... Full responsibility of course! Its their own fault playing soccer on a mined field!
Quote from: SM on Feb 17, 2018, 01:57:52 AM
QuoteHis ex only came after him once he became famous, why not beforehand?
The incidents happened in 2009 and she sought a protection order in early 2010.
I was lead to believe she only seeked money from him *after* he became famous and started earning money. Looks like I need to do more research, I only found one article about it years ago.
Thanks for the info.
Quote from: muthur9000 on Feb 17, 2018, 09:40:09 PM
I was lead to believe she only seeked money from him *after* he became famous and started earning money.
She only wanted her medical bills reimbursed which was around only 20k. So clearly she was not gold digging.
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 17, 2018, 09:39:24 PM
I guess in the "current environment" im definitely gonna be accused of ascribing co-responsibility to the children if i write:
Especially children need to stop being victims of violence in warlike situations.
I better report myself for this shameful view.
edit: Nah! Co-responsibility... Full responsibility of course! Its their own fault playing soccer on a mined field!
Well, if you think it's that simple - good for you.
Yep, i wrote about transforming society. No problem at all!
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Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 17, 2018, 08:07:22 PM
QuoteAnd statements like the one quoted below are most certainly intended to provoke an emotional response, and he knows it.
There's a neutral, simply factual (existential) interpretation to the statement though (they need to stop being victims, and its everyones task to bring society closer to this pressing goal). He didnt write "stop acting like victims" or "stop behaving like victims", which would render it one dimensional retarded no doubt.
But of course everyone ascribes the pure negative version to him as his obvious (cause what, its Scorpio?) intention and he gets trolled galore in a typical imdb/4chan/reddit fashion. And thats just disgusting behavior in its own right.
He got trolled so hard he got banned lol.
Quote from: muthur9000 on Feb 17, 2018, 09:40:09 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 17, 2018, 01:57:52 AM
QuoteHis ex only came after him once he became famous, why not beforehand?
The incidents happened in 2009 and she sought a protection order in early 2010.
I was lead to believe she only seeked money from him *after* he became famous and started earning money. Looks like I need to do more research, I only found one article about it years ago.
Thanks for the info.
And in the wake of this resurfacing so far: no further news. Seems neither Fassbender nor Leasi or anybody else wants to comment. Were the allegations truthful? Does Leasi still like Fassbender enough such that she still doesn't want to hurt his career? Were the allegations untruthful and perhaps part of an ugly break-up? We don't know. It seems prudent to reserve judgement until such information arrives.
Quote from: tleilaxu on Feb 17, 2018, 10:20:16 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Feb 17, 2018, 08:07:22 PM
QuoteAnd statements like the one quoted below are most certainly intended to provoke an emotional response, and he knows it.
There's a neutral, simply factual (existential) interpretation to the statement though (they need to stop being victims, and its everyones task to bring society closer to this pressing goal). He didnt write "stop acting like victims" or "stop behaving like victims", which would render it one dimensional retarded no doubt.
But of course everyone ascribes the pure negative version to him as his obvious (cause what, its Scorpio?) intention and he gets trolled galore in a typical imdb/4chan/reddit fashion. And thats just disgusting behavior in its own right.
He got trolled so hard he got banned lol.
Quote from: muthur9000 on Feb 17, 2018, 09:40:09 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 17, 2018, 01:57:52 AM
QuoteHis ex only came after him once he became famous, why not beforehand?
The incidents happened in 2009 and she sought a protection order in early 2010.
I was lead to believe she only seeked money from him *after* he became famous and started earning money. Looks like I need to do more research, I only found one article about it years ago.
Thanks for the info.
And in the wake of this resurfacing so far: no further news. Seems neither Fassbender nor Leasi or anybody else wants to comment. Were the allegations truthful? Does Leasi still like Fassbender enough such that she still doesn't want to hurt his career? Were the allegations untruthful and perhaps part of an ugly break-up? We don't know. It seems prudent to reserve judgement until such information arrives.
At the same time it's really none of our business, but I want to be informed... I don't want to spread misinformation.
This is weirdly not blowing up... A few outlets posted an article last week and then it died.
I guess the Twitter lynch mob doesn't care?
He said - she said cases often die off. It's the he said - she said, she said, she said... cases that continue.
If photos emerged of the woman's injuries, it'd blow up again. As it stands, either she's not interested in pursuing it, or she got paid off to keep quiet.
Dosen't she have the right to settle this issue out of the public light? Not judging right or wrong but it is our job to put our noses into what is their private life.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
Dosen't she have the right to settle this issue out of the public light? Not judging right or wrong but it is our job to put our noses into what is their private life.
Absolutely. I'm just surprised. I expected this to be the next big blacklisting story all over the news.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
Dosen't she have the right to settle this issue out of the public light?
Yep.
Quote from: necrotard on Feb 20, 2018, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
Dosen't she have the right to settle this issue out of the public light? Not judging right or wrong but it is our job to put our noses into what is their private life.
Absolutely. I'm just surprised. I expected this to be the next big blacklisting story all over the news.
Same here.
Quote from: necrotard on Feb 20, 2018, 10:47:17 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Feb 20, 2018, 10:43:31 PM
Dosen't she have the right to settle this issue out of the public light? Not judging right or wrong but it is our job to put our noses into what is their private life.
Absolutely. I'm just surprised. I expected this to be the next big blacklisting story all over the news.
This one is from 4 days ago... (http://hollywoodlife.com/2018/02/16/michael-fassbender-abuse-leasi-andrews-court-documents/)
And the day before yesterday (http://atlantablackstar.com/2018/02/18/abuse-allegations-michael-fassbender-resurface-black-ex-girlfriend-accuses-breaking-nose/).