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Title: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant's Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 15, 2017, 02:31:14 PM

There is just no stopping Adam Savage and his team over at Tested when it comes to Alien: Covenant! To help promote today’s American Blu-ray and DVD release of Alien: Covenant, Tested has released a new featurette focused around the practical Alien used during the filming of Alien: Covenant.

“On the set of Alien: Covenant, Adam gets up close with the animatronic Xenomorph head that’s worn by the film’s creature puppeteer. Seeing this head animate and lunge, we learn how the animatronic operators work with the performer to breathe life into this 9-foot tall creature.”

This latest behind-the-scene featurette shows us some pretty cool footage of Andrew Crawford in the Alien puppeteering rig constructed by the good folk from Creature Inc Ltd and Odd Studio.

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Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant's Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Rafael on Aug 15, 2017, 03:37:31 PM
If they put all those "Tested" videos together, it would make a great behind-the-scenes for the Blu-ray release.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: John Doe on Aug 15, 2017, 03:46:49 PM
I like she said this creature It is more organic, less mechanical. Maybe if there is another one we will see the original.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Jonesy1974 on Aug 15, 2017, 03:59:53 PM
I really think that's the plan. The Alien in Covenant is just Davids first attempt.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant's Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Morgoth on Aug 15, 2017, 05:07:37 PM
Why do people think this looks better than the CGI is beyond me
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Evanus on Aug 15, 2017, 05:10:28 PM
Yeah, this looks pretty rough to be honest. But animatronics can look much, much better than this.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant's Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Burn the Floor on Aug 15, 2017, 05:46:41 PM
Rad animatronic. Would've been cool to see in the movie.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Xenomorphine on Aug 15, 2017, 07:17:03 PM
This was the pupeteering rig Conor O'Sullivan mentioned in our exclusive video they didn't have the time to finish. This was clearly the test footage. You can tell because it has the thinner limbs. :)
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant's Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: CrespiChickenStrips on Aug 15, 2017, 10:25:53 PM
Get a bit of a Pumpkinhead vibe from those bug eyes vs. the human skull in the big chap.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: OmegaZilla on Aug 16, 2017, 12:36:59 PM
Quote from: CrespiChickenStrips on Aug 15, 2017, 10:25:53 PM
Get a bit of a Pumpkinhead vibe from those bug eyes vs. the human skull in the big chap.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhorrornews.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2F11%2Fpumpkinhead_movie_image6.jpg&hash=5b4944525c5855d41d6723e645267be77ab41cbb)

bug eyes?
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Elmazalman on Aug 16, 2017, 01:20:56 PM
Seeing the COVENANT video only makes me want to revisit the original behind-the-scenes footage.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FunJAJVw.jpg&hash=6dfbe510dbe4415f5b5abcd0c81c04a4b5b6191a)
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Johnny Handsome on Aug 17, 2017, 10:39:09 AM
I had no problem with the CGI in the movie, it was good, but seeing all those great animatronics and suits really makes my heart bleed they didnt include them, i can't recall a single practical Alien in the movie, and that's a shame.

And to be honest, i think the "we made the suits just for reference" statement from Ridley is pure bullshit, you don't spend a huge chunk of money for those really good and complex suits and animatronics with the intention to erase it all over with CGI, i think Ridley pulled a "thing" here, where they wanted to go practical and decided during post production to make everything CG instead.

Unlike most people on here i actually like CGI in movies, i really do, but it would have been ten times more creepy if there was a guy slowly walking around on the dust filled spaceship instead of the hyperactive AvP-version we got instead.

The design is awesome, this is the closest to the original big-chap design by far.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Scorpio on Aug 17, 2017, 11:58:05 AM
You can't achieve the same kind of shots with practical, as you have to hide the fact it's just a man in a suit.  May have worked back in the 80s but in 2017 it's cheesy.  Particularly for a big budget movie.  Like the shot with the Neomorph slowly approaching David - would not have worked with just a guy in a suit.  Besides, if you listen to the commentary, Ridley Scott says they kept the practical shots that worked better than the CG shots.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Anim...
Post by: Highland on Aug 17, 2017, 02:08:28 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 17, 2017, 11:58:05 AM
You can't achieve the same kind of shots with practical, as you have to hide the fact it's just a man in a suit.  May have worked back in the 80s but in 2017 it's cheesy.  Particularly for a big budget movie.  Like the shot with the Neomorph slowly approaching David - would not have worked with just a guy in a suit.  Besides, if you listen to the commentary, Ridley Scott says they kept the practical shots that worked better than the CG shots.

I agree with your point about it not working with the same kind of shots, but I disagree with the point that it would be cheesy. Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 have shots that are more powerful than the current CGI beastie. Shots that not only look better , but are still scary to this day.

Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Anim...
Post by: Jonesy1974 on Aug 17, 2017, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 17, 2017, 02:08:28 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 17, 2017, 11:58:05 AM
You can't achieve the same kind of shots with practical, as you have to hide the fact it's just a man in a suit.  May have worked back in the 80s but in 2017 it's cheesy.  Particularly for a big budget movie.  Like the shot with the Neomorph slowly approaching David - would not have worked with just a guy in a suit.  Besides, if you listen to the commentary, Ridley Scott says they kept the practical shots that worked better than the CG shots.

I agree with your point about it not working with the same kind of shots, but I disagree with the point that it would be cheesy. Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 have shots that are more powerful than the current CGI beastie. Shots that not only look better , but are still scary to this day.

I dunno, that one shot of the Alien entering the loading bay was up with best I reckon.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Elmazalman on Aug 17, 2017, 08:25:00 PM
The shot of the Alien (closing it's jaws) after killing the guy in the shower and it entering the terraforming bay are exceptional. They're the only shots of the creature which I think are as good as anything seen in the original film.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant's Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Zaxxon64 on Aug 18, 2017, 02:59:17 PM
A totally disappointing movie to be sure. >:(
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant's Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Deaconschristpose on Aug 19, 2017, 03:03:10 AM
There's an artificial gloss on CGI that takes you out of the scene immediately.  The fast shots, you need it, but the close-ups? Inexcuasble. It's something Prometheus got right that Covenant got wrong. That being said, the movie is still great imo.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant's Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Hyperdyne120-a2 on Aug 19, 2017, 08:12:45 PM
What the hell!!! There are so many iconic shots of the alien here that weren't included in the film!! Why didn't Ridley utilize this more??
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Elmazalman on Aug 19, 2017, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: Hyperdyne120-a2 on Aug 19, 2017, 08:12:45 PM
What the hell!!! There are so many iconic shots of the alien here that weren't included in the film!! Why didn't Ridley utilize this more??
He cut a lot of adult Alien footage from the original too. Some nice shots of the adult can be seen in the outtakes. Very frustrating, such a wonderful monster, you just want to see more of it but you also want to leave it to the imagination.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Anim...
Post by: Highland on Aug 19, 2017, 11:48:23 PM
Quote from: Jonesy1974 on Aug 17, 2017, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: Highland on Aug 17, 2017, 02:08:28 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 17, 2017, 11:58:05 AM
You can't achieve the same kind of shots with practical, as you have to hide the fact it's just a man in a suit.  May have worked back in the 80s but in 2017 it's cheesy.  Particularly for a big budget movie.  Like the shot with the Neomorph slowly approaching David - would not have worked with just a guy in a suit.  Besides, if you listen to the commentary, Ridley Scott says they kept the practical shots that worked better than the CG shots.

I agree with your point about it not working with the same kind of shots, but I disagree with the point that it would be cheesy. Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 have shots that are more powerful than the current CGI beastie. Shots that not only look better , but are still scary to this day.

I dunno, that one shot of the Alien entering the loading bay was up with best I reckon.

It was a good shot because it was dark,  far away and naturally moving ( not doing gymnastics). It was also creepy.

The problem with CGI these days I feel is that a lot of the time it's used to show off - " wow look at this". It's lit wrong, there's no darkness, it's blurry or quick, the shadows are all off or it feels like it's not heavy or got any weight. They want you to see it in all it's glory.

The CGI shots don't bother me in Covenant, but I like puppets better if I had to choose for close ups.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Alionic on Aug 20, 2017, 12:56:49 AM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Aug 17, 2017, 08:25:00 PM
The shot of the Alien (closing it's jaws) after killing the guy in the shower and it entering the terraforming bay are exceptional. They're the only shots of the creature which I think are as good as anything seen in the original film.

The shot of the Alien killing that guy in David's lab looked great, too.
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: Elmazalman on Aug 20, 2017, 10:23:39 AM
Quote from: Alionic on Aug 20, 2017, 12:56:49 AM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Aug 17, 2017, 08:25:00 PM
The shot of the Alien (closing it's jaws) after killing the guy in the shower and it entering the terraforming bay are exceptional. They're the only shots of the creature which I think are as good as anything seen in the original film.

The shot of the Alien killing that guy in David's lab looked great, too.
The shot where it drops down onto Cole?
Title: Re: Adam Savage Meets Alien: Covenant’s Xenomorph Animatronic
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 20, 2017, 12:31:32 PM
Yesh i really like that shot when it drops down on cole as well.