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Poll
Question: Which new alien are you more looking forward to and excited about. . The classic xeno. .or the new neo. .
Option 1: The Neomorph votes: 21
Option 2: Classic Xenomorph votes: 29
Title: xeno vs neo
Post by: juxtapose on Jan 07, 2017, 12:27:33 PM
I love the fact that alien covenant will have not one but at least 2 different types of alien. .the neomorph i think is closely related. .the neomorph an almost neanderthal version of the xeno. . So i am even more wary of these new neo's. . We have not encountered them before , we dont know what to expect till we see them in action. .
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 07, 2017, 12:52:55 PM
well one might argue that in prometheus, the infected crewmembers that were transforming essentially were 'new' species too - we haven't seen them before. offcourse dr holloway was burnt before he could advance enough, but he felt he was going down a very bad route. the other crewmember - fifield - was quite more advanced, and his ability to put his arms and legs in a very awkward position was.....interesting. his face was also transforming, being blind in one eye and the other still having sight. he had quite the strenght, yet still posessed a certain human element, in using environment materials to his advantages, as grabbing an axe and slamming it in a crewmembers' spine. he had superior strenght and smashed a face to pulp. jumped crazy far, withstand fire for a good amount of time untill getting driven over a few times before he was crushed to death.

he was rather a good size bigger too. i always wondered exactly what he was transforming into : 'there was no tail growing - yet. was he becoming a deacon? a neomorph? i think the latter could be possible, after all, the neomorph was originally intended to be in prometheus but never got used.

sure, the neomorph presumably is birthed from the spine of an infected crewmember, so it's growth process is vastly different.
i would have enjoyed seeing a fully transformed event. i dont think that's in covenant, unfortunately.

in any case, i'd say i'm curious about the neomorph, though i'm a bit 'scared' too.
scared that it's going to be a lame badly executed hideous disgusting awkward thing, ala newborn from alien resurecction.
i hated that one to the bone.

the leaked images seen so far are interesting though.

as for the classic xeno; it seems its different too, and not the alien we know yet, more a pre-version as it seems more biological, but let's wait it out.
haven't seen enough of it yet. it's also suggested the neomorph could eventually transform into the xeno we know; in the leaked images we see a half-destroyed mouth/lips, so perhaps the grey/white skin wears off and eventually it turns blackish.

then again, a crewmember gets facehugged so i'm rather confident itll grow a chestburster and thus a classic alien probably.

we'll see.

i think i must say i'm most curious about the neomorph. as for excitement? the classic xeno : just please paint it as an intelligent alien lifeform, not a brainless, hive-controlled animal like aliens started out with, and the remainder made worse.

i do believe the neomorph will be super scary though.
perhaps we'll learn how the aliens in aliens were able to get between the walls/ceilings; if they perhaps are able to morph somehow.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Infected on Jan 07, 2017, 01:04:13 PM
Im curious if the neomorph has the same extended mouth as the Deacon, or will it have the nasty extended teeth of the xenomorph as we know it.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 07, 2017, 02:04:25 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alienhive.pl%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F10%2Fneomorph-neomorf.jpg&hash=9902b133f4c77e120cc7f4fae31cc6e08ebf6bd9)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjunkhost.com%2Ffile%2F2016%2F10%2FWkM75_oEjI1l.jpg&hash=c5057894b8ed9d1721f8034abee607d5a31e75df)

looks not like it's gonna have deacon-features.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: rabidranger on Jan 07, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
Isn't there a spoiler that indicates that David can communicate/control the neomorphs or was that debunked?
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 07, 2017, 04:12:23 PM
Quote from: Infected on Jan 07, 2017, 01:04:13 PM
Im curious if the neomorph has the same extended mouth as the Deacon, or will it have the nasty extended teeth of the xenomorph as we know it.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/10Sa8k39ZFtufu/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Vermillion on Jan 07, 2017, 04:22:37 PM
Just don't be like Batman and Robin.
Introducing too many characters. And thinning out the franchise for the sake of zero reason at all.

Alien is the perfect organism. Why have an imperfect neo?

Or are they going to use "bullet-time" when the NEO attacks.
A la Matrix. 

Oy vey
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 05:01:58 PM
I voted Classic Xenomorph because while I am very interested in seeing the Neomorph, the Xenos last outing was terrible and they need to be redeemed, so I would like to that the most.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: SuicideDoors on Jan 07, 2017, 05:18:59 PM
The classic all the way. Hopefully it's spoon fed like Big Chap from the original, the fleeting glimpses were mesmerising. I don't care if it's not new or original. The most exciting part of Jurassic World was seeing the T Rex unleashed. Happy memories and thrills blended into one.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?

I did and it's not classic Xenomorph as we know it. It's proto-Xenomorph (Primal Xenomorph if you prefer). It's Xenomorph without mechanical parts. Pure bio.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?

I did and it's not classic Xenomorph as we know it. It's proto-Xenomorph (Primal Xenomorph if you prefer). It's Xenomorph without mechanical parts. Pure bio.

Do you have a source for that?
Because I saw eggs (admittedly they were different), facehuggers and a drone which we only see the head and tail of so we can't tell if it has no biomechanical parts or not.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?

I did and it's not classic Xenomorph as we know it. It's proto-Xenomorph (Primal Xenomorph if you prefer). It's Xenomorph without mechanical parts. Pure bio.

Do you have a source for that?
Because I saw eggs (admittedly they were different), facehuggers and a drone which we only see the head and tail of so we can't tell if it has no biomechanical parts or not.

Source? I've read about it on this website: www.avpgalaxy.net ;)
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?

I did and it's not classic Xenomorph as we know it. It's proto-Xenomorph (Primal Xenomorph if you prefer). It's Xenomorph without mechanical parts. Pure bio.

Do you have a source for that?
Because I saw eggs (admittedly they were different), facehuggers and a drone which we only see the head and tail of so we can't tell if it has no biomechanical parts or not.

Source? I've read about it on this website: www.avpgalaxy.net ;)

So just speculation and opinion then... :laugh:
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 07:01:09 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?

I did and it's not classic Xenomorph as we know it. It's proto-Xenomorph (Primal Xenomorph if you prefer). It's Xenomorph without mechanical parts. Pure bio.

Do you have a source for that?
Because I saw eggs (admittedly they were different), facehuggers and a drone which we only see the head and tail of so we can't tell if it has no biomechanical parts or not.

Source? I've read about it on this website: www.avpgalaxy.net ;)

So just speculation and opinion then... :laugh:

If I'm not mistaken Corporal mentioned about it few times.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 07:07:01 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 07:01:09 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?

I did and it's not classic Xenomorph as we know it. It's proto-Xenomorph (Primal Xenomorph if you prefer). It's Xenomorph without mechanical parts. Pure bio.

Do you have a source for that?
Because I saw eggs (admittedly they were different), facehuggers and a drone which we only see the head and tail of so we can't tell if it has no biomechanical parts or not.

Source? I've read about it on this website: www.avpgalaxy.net ;)

So just speculation and opinion then... :laugh:

If I'm not mistaken Corporal mentioned about it few times.

Hicks is still just a member of this site, not someone working for fox or ridley so he is not in a position to know facts of the film (as far as I know anyway), though he has interviewed some of those who worked on previous films so kudos to him for that but what he says would just be his opinion and speculation like anyone else here. Its a good theory though, I myself wondered if the eggs are first gen aliens due to their weird look.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 07:12:43 PM
@The Cruentus

We'll find out in May :)
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 07:14:01 PM
Indeed we will but I am not holding my breath for this film, too many disappointments from this franchise lately.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 07:17:26 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 07:14:01 PM
Indeed we will but I am not holding my breath for this film, too many disappointments from this franchise lately.

Have faith! :) I personally cannot wait for it.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Parker on Jan 07, 2017, 07:19:19 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jan 07, 2017, 05:18:59 PM
The classic all the way. Hopefully it's spoon fed like Big Chap from the original, the fleeting glimpses were mesmerising. I don't care if it's not new or original. The most exciting part of Jurassic World was seeing the T Rex unleashed. Happy memories and thrills blended into one.

Love this!  I voted for the Big Chap.  Don't get me wrong, I'm excited to see the neomorphs, but having the original StarBeast on screen again is what I'm really looking forward to!
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 07:30:50 PM
So far, a tie  :laugh:

Oh I do faith, I'm just being a realist, disappointment is less painful when you prepare for it and on a plus if you expect the worst, you're much more pleasantly surprised when things turn out good or better.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 07:48:31 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 07:30:50 PM
Oh I do faith, I'm just being a realist, disappointment is less painful when you prepare for it and on a plus if you expect the worst, you're much more pleasantly surprised when things turn out good or better.

That's a good approach. Very pragmatic and safe.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Kimo on Jan 07, 2017, 10:16:32 PM
Classic Alien... mostly because I want to see how Ridley portrays it in 2017. I hope, it moves around like Bolaji Badejo did in that test footage of his. Also hope it makes that strange mechanical hissing noises like the original alien did, because that unique sound has been missing, from the alien since the first film. The only thing that has me a tiny bit worried about the classic Alien in Covenant, is that it looks like it's missing its mechanical features that Gigers alien had. In other words it looks more organic then the one in the first alien movie. This could either be a decision of Ripley's or a plot in Covenant story. Some members have said it's because we have another movie or two after Covenant before we get to the real Gigers Alien?

Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 07, 2017, 10:28:12 PM
Quote from: rabidranger on Jan 07, 2017, 04:06:55 PM
Isn't there a spoiler that indicates that David can communicate/control the neomorphs or was that debunked?

i seriously hope not, because that is exactly the kind of alien resurecction, avp requiem, and fast-n-furious meets transformers type of sh*t this franchise exactly does NOT need or would survive........
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: juxtapose on Jan 07, 2017, 11:48:15 PM
. .after starting this thread, i realized i had not put enought thought into the title. .it sounds like i am intending for them to fight. . Glad to see it got some attention. .i am curious about the jaw and how it functions and weather the neo's also have acid for blood. .they supposed to be more animal. .weather this makes them more or less cunning hunters remains to be seen. .hurry on may
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 12:05:48 AM
i didn't get that at all, to be honest.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: juxtapose on Jan 08, 2017, 05:07:24 AM
one thing is for certain tho. .the neo's are way more vicious after birth. .while the xeno runs for cover after exiting the chest, the neo goes straight for the jagular. .was it a neo that was birthed in alien, it might have taken out the entire crew at the breakfast table. .
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Master on Jan 08, 2017, 11:10:16 AM
Voted for Neo, cause it`s new. I affraid Scott will try too hard to make something unexpected with Alien and destroys part of what was established earlier just for wow factor, as he did that with SJ in Prometheus. I don`t trust old Riddlers.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 11:19:37 AM
Quote from: juxtapose on Jan 08, 2017, 05:07:24 AM
one thing is for certain tho. .the neo's are way more vicious after birth. .while the xeno runs for cover after exiting the chest, the neo goes straight for the jagular. .was it a neo that was birthed in alien, it might have taken out the entire crew at the breakfast table. .

where did you get that? it was locked in a room with somebody probably trying to kill it, any lifeform will defend itself from death, so i dont see how being locked in a room with a life-threatening human would have it just surrender and do nothing. it then somehow tries to escape and another human blocks its way and starts firing at it, and she destroys the ship while doing so and kills herself. whatever happens to that creature at that moment is beyond me, perhaps it escaped, no idea.

the xeno chestbursters possibly were just a tiny bit smaller but not sure about that either untill we've seen the movie. we haven't seen the xeno grow, only as a tiny 'baby' flee the scene and then it got big really fast. as in insanely fast.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 11:22:24 AM
Looking forward to the classic of course. These are my favorite movies and seeing big chap done well on screen again will be great, but...

Classic also means its what we've seen before and I'm really more interested in seeing something new brought to the table. I'm really thinking that how the Neomorphs are birthed is not gonna be just a straight "back burst". I think its gonna be more of a straight up transformation of the infected person. I think their whole spinal column is gonna rip out of their body as part of the actual creature and there's not gonna be much left of the crew member afterwards. Just check out the pic of the aftermath posted by fox themselves. Will be kind of reminiscent of what I think was an early Alien3 script where people were literally transforming into Xeno's.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 02:50:44 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?

I did and it's not classic Xenomorph as we know it. It's proto-Xenomorph (Primal Xenomorph if you prefer). It's Xenomorph without mechanical parts. Pure bio.

Do you have a source for that?
Because I saw eggs (admittedly they were different), facehuggers and a drone which we only see the head and tail of so we can't tell if it has no biomechanical parts or not.

Source? I've read about it on this website: www.avpgalaxy.net ;)

We've never reported that the "traditional" Alien was a proto-Alien.  :) As far as I'm aware, nothing in the narrative of Covenant would indicate it is. However, there are some noticeable differences in design. Whether they're just artistic license or actually serve to differentiate Covenant's "Big Chap" I don't know.

While I liked Spaihts' Alien: Engineers, one of the issues I always had with it was that the traditional Alien always seemed like an after-thought and were killed too easily. I would have been happy to see an entire film that was just the proto-Aliens. I just hope the "traditional" Aliens don't get the same treatment in Covenant.


Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 07:07:01 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 07:01:09 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?

I did and it's not classic Xenomorph as we know it. It's proto-Xenomorph (Primal Xenomorph if you prefer). It's Xenomorph without mechanical parts. Pure bio.

Do you have a source for that?
Because I saw eggs (admittedly they were different), facehuggers and a drone which we only see the head and tail of so we can't tell if it has no biomechanical parts or not.

Source? I've read about it on this website: www.avpgalaxy.net ;)

So just speculation and opinion then... :laugh:

If I'm not mistaken Corporal mentioned about it few times.

Hicks is still just a member of this site, not someone working for fox or ridley so he is not in a position to know facts of the film (as far as I know anyway), though he has interviewed some of those who worked on previous films so kudos to him for that but what he says would just be his opinion and speculation like anyone else here. Its a good theory though, I myself wondered if the eggs are first gen aliens due to their weird look.

While I've never said the "traditional" Alien is a proto-Alien (not that I remember anyway), I think I make it pretty clear what is merely my opinion and what information I may have gleaned elsewhere. Our article on the Neomorphs was proved true by the trailer and Franco all but confirmed his appearance in recent interviews. Only the Weyland information is still unconfirmed at this minute.

Starting to find all this suspicion hurtful.  :P
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Can't really do the poll  before having seen movie..
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Can't really do the poll  before having seen movie..

Why? He's asking what your most looking forward to seeing in the movie.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 02:50:44 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?

I did and it's not classic Xenomorph as we know it. It's proto-Xenomorph (Primal Xenomorph if you prefer). It's Xenomorph without mechanical parts. Pure bio.

Do you have a source for that?
Because I saw eggs (admittedly they were different), facehuggers and a drone which we only see the head and tail of so we can't tell if it has no biomechanical parts or not.

Source? I've read about it on this website: www.avpgalaxy.net ;)

We've never reported that the "traditional" Alien was a proto-Alien.  :) As far as I'm aware, nothing in the narrative of Covenant would indicate it is. However, there are some noticeable differences in design. Whether they're just artistic license or actually serve to differentiate Covenant's "Big Chap" I don't know.

While I liked Spaihts' Alien: Engineers, one of the issues I always had with it was that the traditional Alien always seemed like an after-thought and were killed too easily. I would have been happy to see an entire film that was just the proto-Aliens. I just hope the "traditional" Aliens don't get the same treatment in Covenant.


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Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 07:01:09 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:57:58 PM
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Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 07, 2017, 06:41:37 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 07, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
Looking forward to see Neomorphs. I don't think we gonna see classic Xeno in A:C.

You did see the trailer right?

I did and it's not classic Xenomorph as we know it. It's proto-Xenomorph (Primal Xenomorph if you prefer). It's Xenomorph without mechanical parts. Pure bio.

Do you have a source for that?
Because I saw eggs (admittedly they were different), facehuggers and a drone which we only see the head and tail of so we can't tell if it has no biomechanical parts or not.

Source? I've read about it on this website: www.avpgalaxy.net ;)

So just speculation and opinion then... :laugh:

If I'm not mistaken Corporal mentioned about it few times.

Hicks is still just a member of this site, not someone working for fox or ridley so he is not in a position to know facts of the film (as far as I know anyway), though he has interviewed some of those who worked on previous films so kudos to him for that but what he says would just be his opinion and speculation like anyone else here. Its a good theory though, I myself wondered if the eggs are first gen aliens due to their weird look.

While I've never said the "traditional" Alien is a proto-Alien (not that I remember anyway), I think I make it pretty clear what is merely my opinion and what information I may have gleaned elsewhere. Our article on the Neomorphs was proved true by the trailer and Franco all but confirmed his appearance in recent interviews. Only the Weyland information is still unconfirmed at this minute.

Starting to find all this suspicion hurtful.  :P

Ha! now now, no insults were thrown  :laugh:
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 02:50:44 PM

While I've never said the "traditional" Alien is a proto-Alien (not that I remember anyway), I think I make it pretty clear what is merely my opinion and what information I may have gleaned elsewhere. Our article on the Neomorphs was proved true by the trailer and Franco all but confirmed his appearance in recent interviews. Only the Weyland information is still unconfirmed at this minute.

Starting to find all this suspicion hurtful.  :P

i think it's pretty clear weyland is there, in the piano scene, the dark figure walking forwards whilst david looking at him.
it wouldnt make sense if that wasn't weyland, now would it? so i think its pretty clear it's him, he's also credited in the imdb page.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 04:19:33 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 02:50:44 PM

While I've never said the "traditional" Alien is a proto-Alien (not that I remember anyway), I think I make it pretty clear what is merely my opinion and what information I may have gleaned elsewhere. Our article on the Neomorphs was proved true by the trailer and Franco all but confirmed his appearance in recent interviews. Only the Weyland information is still unconfirmed at this minute.

Starting to find all this suspicion hurtful.  :P

i think it's pretty clear weyland is there, in the piano scene, the dark figure walking forwards whilst david looking at him.
it wouldnt make sense if that wasn't weyland, now would it? so i think its pretty clear it's him, he's also credited in the imdb page.

I know that's Weyland but we don't see his face unfortunately.

Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 04:13:49 PM
Ha! now now, no insults were thrown  :laugh:

Never said there was.  :P
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Can't really do the poll  before having seen movie..

Why? He's asking what your most looking forward to seeing in the movie.

This isn't like jurassic world where we knew beforehand what most looked like. F xmpl Mosasaur.

I need to make a comparrison n can't when we haven't seen the neo properly...
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 04:25:03 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Can't really do the poll  before having seen movie..

Why? He's asking what your most looking forward to seeing in the movie.

This isn't like jurassic world where we knew beforehand what most looked like. F xmpl Mosasaur.

did you actually read the op?
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 04:19:33 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 02:50:44 PM

While I've never said the "traditional" Alien is a proto-Alien (not that I remember anyway), I think I make it pretty clear what is merely my opinion and what information I may have gleaned elsewhere. Our article on the Neomorphs was proved true by the trailer and Franco all but confirmed his appearance in recent interviews. Only the Weyland information is still unconfirmed at this minute.

Starting to find all this suspicion hurtful.  :P

i think it's pretty clear weyland is there, in the piano scene, the dark figure walking forwards whilst david looking at him.
it wouldnt make sense if that wasn't weyland, now would it? so i think its pretty clear it's him, he's also credited in the imdb page.

I know that's Weyland but we don't see his face unfortunately.

Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 04:13:49 PM
Ha! now now, no insults were thrown  :laugh:

Never said there was.  :P
I know but I had to comment on.. ahem.. your "hurtfulness"  ;) lol
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 04:29:13 PM
kiss on it to make the hurt go away?

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alien-covenant.com%2Faliencovenant_uploads%2FNeomorph.png&hash=a8c6d93f1b817ab14e8c3306c411ddca0ce1fbd9)
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Can't really do the poll  before having seen movie..

Why? He's asking what your most looking forward to seeing in the movie.

This isn't like jurassic world where we knew beforehand what most looked like. F xmpl Mosasaur.

He's not asking which you like the look of better or who would win in a fight. He's simply asking which one your most interested in seeing in the movie.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 04:37:39 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Can't really do the poll  before having seen movie..

Why? He's asking what your most looking forward to seeing in the movie.

This isn't like jurassic world where we knew beforehand what most looked like. F xmpl Mosasaur.

He's not asking which you like the look of better or who would win in a fight. He's simply asking which one your most interested in seeing in the movie.

We saw a gif of it, blurry n have some rumours of its capabilities, n in the trailer it prefers the back. That's it. Not much to get excited about..
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 04:38:10 PM
Reminds me of the beluga morph, that was white and more organic looking as well.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 04:45:52 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 04:37:39 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 04:30:11 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 04:22:48 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 03:23:42 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Can't really do the poll  before having seen movie..

Why? He's asking what your most looking forward to seeing in the movie.

This isn't like jurassic world where we knew beforehand what most looked like. F xmpl Mosasaur.

He's not asking which you like the look of better or who would win in a fight. He's simply asking which one your most interested in seeing in the movie.

We saw a gif of it, blurry n have some rumours of its capabilities, n in the trailer it prefers the back. That's it. Not much to get excited about..

again, you dont need the look of it, the description of how it probably will be like and how it will operate and the fact that its something a tad different then the classic xeno is about the question. i dont get why you keep being so hostile about it
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 08, 2017, 05:02:14 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 04:26:47 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 04:19:33 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 04:14:28 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 02:50:44 PM

While I've never said the "traditional" Alien is a proto-Alien (not that I remember anyway), I think I make it pretty clear what is merely my opinion and what information I may have gleaned elsewhere. Our article on the Neomorphs was proved true by the trailer and Franco all but confirmed his appearance in recent interviews. Only the Weyland information is still unconfirmed at this minute.

Starting to find all this suspicion hurtful.  :P

i think it's pretty clear weyland is there, in the piano scene, the dark figure walking forwards whilst david looking at him.
it wouldnt make sense if that wasn't weyland, now would it? so i think its pretty clear it's him, he's also credited in the imdb page.

I know that's Weyland but we don't see his face unfortunately.

Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 04:13:49 PM
Ha! now now, no insults were thrown  :laugh:

Never said there was.  :P
I know but I had to comment on.. ahem.. your "hurtfulness"  ;) lol

One thing to know... Hicks would never steer us wrong!! 8)
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
You want me to get excited over rumors that could turn out to be false..
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 05:16:18 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
You want me to get excited over rumors that could turn out to be false..

so why even visit and keep going on in this thread?
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 05:46:05 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
You want me to get excited over rumors that could turn out to be false..

No ones asking you to get excited. He's asking you which of the 2 you are more interested in seeing in this new movie. What is so hard to understand about that? Are you more interested in seeing the original Alien again or more interested in finding out what this new Neomorph is gonna be like?

You saying you don't know until the movie comes out makes no sense and just shows you don't understand the question. Or you're just being purposefully ignorant of the OP's question just to be awkward or different for some reason. Everyone else in the thread apart from you can answer the question no problem.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 05:47:31 PM
I edited above an earlier post, in jurassic world trailer with the Mosasaur I was sold at once. Making a thread about which beast seems most exciting makes sense.

But this thread? I can say I want to see what unknown creatures there are but I can't say a particular one since I have zero credible info to go by. At least I knew what a Mosasaur was before the trailer n they had an exciting website slowly revealing  the beasts. But alien hype seems to be member berries n not show anything..right now I'm just hoping it won't be a disaster..


Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 05:46:05 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
You want me to get excited over rumors that could turn out to be false..

No ones asking you to get excited. He's asking you which of the 2 you are more interested in seeing in this new movie. What is so hard to understand about that? Are you more interested in seeing the original Alien again or more interested in finding out what this new Neomorph is gonna be like?

You saying you don't know until the movie comes out makes no sense and just shows you don't understand the question. Or you're just being purposefully ignorant of the OP's question just to be awkward or different for some reason. Everyone else in the thread apart from you can answer the question no problem.

Sigh...if rumors r true that it's a f**king xeno-hobbit as an adult i'll facepalm..at least a raptor looks formidable to humans even though much smaller than the big boys. I don't want a bunch of freaking xeno-gremlins (neo)..
An Ultramorph would make more sense in this thread, though we don't know if they will be in.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 05:47:31 PM
I edited above an earlier post, in jurassic world trailer with the Mosasaur I was sold at once. Making a thread about which beast seems most exciting makes sense.

But this thread? I can say I want to see what unknown creatures there are but I can't say a particular one since I have zero credible info to go by. At least I knew what a Mosasaur was before the trailer n they had an exciting website slowly revealing  the beasts. But alien hype seems to be member berries n not show anything..right now I'm just hoping it won't be a disaster..


Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 05:46:05 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
You want me to get excited over rumors that could turn out to be false..

No ones asking you to get excited. He's asking you which of the 2 you are more interested in seeing in this new movie. What is so hard to understand about that? Are you more interested in seeing the original Alien again or more interested in finding out what this new Neomorph is gonna be like?

You saying you don't know until the movie comes out makes no sense and just shows you don't understand the question. Or you're just being purposefully ignorant of the OP's question just to be awkward or different for some reason. Everyone else in the thread apart from you can answer the question no problem.

Sigh...if rumors r true that it's a f**king xeno-hobbit as an adult i'll facepalm..at least a raptor looks formidable to humans even though much smaller than the big boys. I don't want a bunch of freaking xeno-gremlins (neo)..
An Ultramorph would make more sense in this thread, though we don't know if they will be in.

you still dont seem to understand the neomorph is growing and will be big. as the member above mentioned, i think you're willfully ignorant and it's borderline trolling to be honest.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:16:08 PM
Growing? Do you know what the word rumor means?
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 06:18:28 PM
ok, now i'm actually sure you're willfully ignorant and trolling. good to know.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 06:21:06 PM
Why are you talking about dinosaurs lol

Okay just read some other answers to get a feel of what the OP was asking. Its not that hard. Based on our current info including leaks and a f**king trailer which is obviously not fake, what are you MORE INTERESTED IN SEEING?

You over complicating the question at this stage either just because you don't wanna be wrong or because you simply still don't get it. Reading some of your previous posts it seems like english might not be your first language so I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and say you just don't get it and I'll try to break it down even further.

(A)Classic Xenomorph - As seen in the 1979 original maybe with some minor changes.

(B)Neomorph - I comes from spore infected crew. Emerges from backs a throats. Is pale with spikes.

Now. Even with this basic info (there is more out there and weather it's true or false is besides the point). WHAT ONE ARE YOU MORE INTERESTED IS SEEING ON THE SCREEN AT THE CINEMA?!

Possible answers - "A" or "B" or "I'm not interested in seeing any therefore wtf am I even doing in this thread?"
Any other answer is just spam towards a very straightforward question and I'll just treat it like the spam/trolling it is and ignore.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:24:36 PM
I think u decided that a neo is an ultramorph based on a rumor, no proof n you insult people who don't buy what ur selling.

Cute.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:24:36 PM
I think u decided that a neo is an ultramorph based on a rumor, no proof n you insult people who don't buy what ur selling.

Cute.

ok, reported for trolling, this is just rediculous.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 06:34:52 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:24:36 PM
I think u decided that a neo is an ultramorph based on a rumor, no proof n you insult people who don't buy what ur selling.

Cute.

Are you talking to me? Cuz I never mentioned an Ultramorph once. Even if we are discussing rumors it makes no difference to the question. If there was a rumor that there was a f**king predator in the movie he could still ask what people though about it whether it was bullshit or not. If you dont wanna be part of the discussion then don't post your nonsense in the thread cuz your just rambling at this stage. Either stop spamming the thread or find something interesting or intelligent to add to the discussion.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2017, 06:39:11 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:16:08 PM
Growing? Do you know what the word rumor means?

It's not a rumour. They will grow on screen. Check media reports regarding Alien:Covenant footage.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 06:21:06 PM
Why are you talking about dinosaurs lol

Okay just read some other answers to get a feel of what the OP was asking. Its not that hard. Based on our current info including leaks and a f**king trailer which is obviously not fake, what are you MORE INTERESTED IN SEEING?

You over complicating the question at this stage either just because you don't wanna be wrong or because you simply still don't get it. Reading some of your previous posts it seems like english might not be your first language so I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and say you just don't get it and I'll try to break it down even further.

(A)Classic Xenomorph - As seen in the 1979 original maybe with some minor changes.

(B)Neomorph - I comes from spore infected crew. Emerges from backs a throats. Is pale with spikes.

Now. Even with this basic info (there is more out there and weather it's true or false is besides the point). WHAT ONE ARE YOU MORE INTERESTED IS SEEING ON THE SCREEN AT THE CINEMA?!

Possible answers - "A" or "B" or "I'm not interested in seeing any therefore wtf am I even doing in this thread?"
Any other answer is just spam towards a very straightforward question and I'll just treat it like the spam/trolling it is and ignore.

A Mosasaur isn't a dinosaur, I specifically didn't use that word.

Regardless the point was it was presented which sold the movie.

A neo hasn't sold the movie, u call it pale we don't know even that, trailer was so vague n even the gif somebody did on this forum showed it blurry. We don't know if it gets any bigger. People who want to see the movie will expect a large dude like in shower scene. Nobody comes to see some xeno-gremlin...


Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2017, 06:39:11 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:16:08 PM
Growing? Do you know what the word rumor means?

It's not a rumour. They will grow on screen. Check media reports regarding Alien:Covenant footage.

I heard from a guy who heard from a guy...too many rumor mongers.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 06:50:38 PM
please stop spamming this thread with dinosaur cr*p please and leave your trolling to ign or something.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2017, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2017, 06:39:11 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:16:08 PM
Growing? Do you know what the word rumor means?

It's not a rumour. They will grow on screen. Check media reports regarding Alien:Covenant footage.

I heard from a guy who heard from a guy...too many rumor mongers.

It's in the reports. Not a rumour :) I'm serious.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 06:54:08 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 06:21:06 PM
Why are you talking about dinosaurs lol

Okay just read some other answers to get a feel of what the OP was asking. Its not that hard. Based on our current info including leaks and a f**king trailer which is obviously not fake, what are you MORE INTERESTED IN SEEING?

You over complicating the question at this stage either just because you don't wanna be wrong or because you simply still don't get it. Reading some of your previous posts it seems like english might not be your first language so I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and say you just don't get it and I'll try to break it down even further.

(A)Classic Xenomorph - As seen in the 1979 original maybe with some minor changes.

(B)Neomorph - I comes from spore infected crew. Emerges from backs a throats. Is pale with spikes.

Now. Even with this basic info (there is more out there and weather it's true or false is besides the point). WHAT ONE ARE YOU MORE INTERESTED IS SEEING ON THE SCREEN AT THE CINEMA?!

Possible answers - "A" or "B" or "I'm not interested in seeing any therefore wtf am I even doing in this thread?"
Any other answer is just spam towards a very straightforward question and I'll just treat it like the spam/trolling it is and ignore.

A Mosasaur isn't a dinosaur, I specifically didn't use that word.

Regardless the point was it was presented which sold the movie.

A neo hasn't sold the movie, u call it pale we don't know even that, trailer was so vague n even the gif somebody did on this forum showed it blurry. We don't know if it gets any bigger. People who want to see the movie will expect a large dude like in shower scene. Nobody comes to see some xeno-gremlin...

What the f**k are you talking about lol because whatever it is, its got nothing to do with OP's question. No ones saying anything about whats selling the movie or how big any of these creatures are. He is simply asking are you more interested in a Xenomorph or a spore transmitted, back bursting Neomorph.

It wouldn't even matter if neither of these were in the movie! Cuz he's not asking what you think is gonna be in the movie! He's asking, between 2 VERY SIMPLE OPTIONS...

WHAT WOULD YOU WANNA SEE MORE!?

Holy shit this is hilarious. Please stop writing idiotic things as I don't wanna call someone I don't even know a straight up idiot. It might hurt your feelings lol
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: SuicideDoors on Jan 08, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
Do we have to get so hostile? We're all Alien fans aren't we?
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 07:01:26 PM
obviously, one here is just blatantly trolling. so i really wonder.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jan 08, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
Do we have to get so hostile? We're all Alien fans aren't we?

I see they refer to old stuff in december which provided no sources, couldn't show it wasn't rumors n now I'm being insulted for demanding proof from these butthurt people.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jan 08, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
Do we have to get so hostile? We're all Alien fans aren't we?

You would think so but its ridiculous when people feel the need to undermine a perfectly valid question with stupid off topic points that have no place in this particular thread. Either they should add to the discussion or go start their own thread tbh lol
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 07:17:58 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jan 08, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
Do we have to get so hostile? We're all Alien fans aren't we?

You would think so but its ridiculous when people feel the need to undermine a perfectly valid question with stupid off topic points that have no place in this particular thread. Either they should add to the discussion or go start their own thread tbh lol

Demanding definition of one of the options undermines ur rumor, oh what a shame.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 07:19:15 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jan 08, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
Do we have to get so hostile? We're all Alien fans aren't we?

I really wish that that would enough but sadly this is what all fandoms are like....rather than co-exist and debate civilly about a subject they love, a lot will resort to bullying, insulting, name calling and condescending behavior. Speaking in general of course.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 07:20:36 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 07:17:58 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jan 08, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
Do we have to get so hostile? We're all Alien fans aren't we?

You would think so but its ridiculous when people feel the need to undermine a perfectly valid question with stupid off topic points that have no place in this particular thread. Either they should add to the discussion or go start their own thread tbh lol

Demanding definition of one of the options undermines ur rumor, oh what a shame.

can you please just stop.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 07:22:30 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 07:15:22 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jan 08, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
Do we have to get so hostile? We're all Alien fans aren't we?

I see they refer to old stuff in december which provided no sources, couldn't show it wasn't rumors n now I'm being insulted for demanding proof from these butthurt people.

lol once again... sources being real or not, it has nothing to do with op's question. We are allowed to talk and speculate and ask each other questions based on rumors and such. Its an internet forum. Its what happens here. If your feeling insulted because people are saying it how it is then that's your issue. Grow up. Unless you're like 10 years old which I'm not ruling out at this stage.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
QuoteEjogo then turns to the man and tries to hug him to comfort him. At that moment, a creature — a neomorph — bursts out of its back, killing the man. Seimetz runs away, but Ejogo is still trapped inside.

The neomorph has seen Ejogo and starts charging toward her. It's small, but it's agile and fast and vicious.

http://www.slashfilm.com/alien-covenant-footage-recap/


(https://i0.wp.com/bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/neomorph-3.jpg?resize=700%2C439)
When it burst it was small. On this picture looks like it's the size of a dog.

More here: http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3419305/did-you-spot-the-neomorph-hiding-in-the-alien-covenant-trailer/
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 06:54:08 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 06:21:06 PM
Why are you talking about dinosaurs lol

Okay just read some other answers to get a feel of what the OP was asking. Its not that hard. Based on our current info including leaks and a f**king trailer which is obviously not fake, what are you MORE INTERESTED IN SEEING?

You over complicating the question at this stage either just because you don't wanna be wrong or because you simply still don't get it. Reading some of your previous posts it seems like english might not be your first language so I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and say you just don't get it and I'll try to break it down even further.

(A)Classic Xenomorph - As seen in the 1979 original maybe with some minor changes.

(B)Neomorph - I comes from spore infected crew. Emerges from backs a throats. Is pale with spikes.

Now. Even with this basic info (there is more out there and weather it's true or false is besides the point). WHAT ONE ARE YOU MORE INTERESTED IS SEEING ON THE SCREEN AT THE CINEMA?!

Possible answers - "A" or "B" or "I'm not interested in seeing any therefore wtf am I even doing in this thread?"
Any other answer is just spam towards a very straightforward question and I'll just treat it like the spam/trolling it is and ignore.

A Mosasaur isn't a dinosaur, I specifically didn't use that word.

Regardless the point was it was presented which sold the movie.

A neo hasn't sold the movie, u call it pale we don't know even that, trailer was so vague n even the gif somebody did on this forum showed it blurry. We don't know if it gets any bigger. People who want to see the movie will expect a large dude like in shower scene. Nobody comes to see some xeno-gremlin...

What the f**k are you talking about lol because whatever it is, its got nothing to do with OP's question. No ones saying anything about whats selling the movie or how big any of these creatures are. He is simply asking are you more interested in a Xenomorph or a spore transmitted, back bursting Neomorph.

It wouldn't even matter if neither of these were in the movie! Cuz he's not asking what you think is gonna be in the movie! He's asking, between 2 VERY SIMPLE OPTIONS...

WHAT WOULD YOU WANNA SEE MORE!?

Holy shit this is hilarious. Please stop writing idiotic things as I don't wanna call someone I don't even know a straight up idiot. It might hurt your feelings lol

You really are this dense? You want to compare two creatures, one of whom we have no clear image of, just a name, comes out of back EVERYTHING ELSE IS RUMOR WITH ZERO PROOF.

f**k, I should sell u an old car, wrap it up n claim it's a ferrari!
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 07:17:58 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jan 08, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
Do we have to get so hostile? We're all Alien fans aren't we?

You would think so but its ridiculous when people feel the need to undermine a perfectly valid question with stupid off topic points that have no place in this particular thread. Either they should add to the discussion or go start their own thread tbh lol

Demanding definition of one of the options undermines ur rumor, oh what a shame.

Demanding? lol and who the f**k are you to "demand"? lol jesus you are like some spoilt rich kid. if you don't wanna answer the question then don't answer it. but don't start acting like its not a valid question just because you haven't got everything about the possible creatures spoon fed to you before the movie comes out.

We know that what we've heard about the Neomorph might not be true, but that's just another reason to be interested in what its actually gonna be like. Do you really not get that? We know there is a creature that for now is being referred to as the Neomorph and that is all the info you actually need to op to be able to ask his question.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 07:31:18 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2017, 07:27:45 PM
QuoteEjogo then turns to the man and tries to hug him to comfort him. At that moment, a creature — a neomorph — bursts out of its back, killing the man. Seimetz runs away, but Ejogo is still trapped inside.

The neomorph has seen Ejogo and starts charging toward her. It's small, but it's agile and fast and vicious.

http://www.slashfilm.com/alien-covenant-footage-recap/


(https://i0.wp.com/bloody-disgusting.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/neomorph-3.jpg?resize=700%2C439)
When it burst it was small. On this picture looks like it's the size of a dog.

More here: http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3419305/did-you-spot-the-neomorph-hiding-in-the-alien-covenant-trailer/

I refered to it several times the gif, it's still blurry. But thx for linking.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
How about everyone and that means both of you calm down and quit with the uncivil behavior? it takes two to tango so neither of you are better than the other if you answer an insult with another insult, just ignore each other and get on with sticking to the topic, things don't need to get personal at all, this is fiction, being right or wrong matters not. Carry on and I will bring the admins here.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 07:35:45 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 07:28:32 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 06:54:08 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 06:43:53 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 06:21:06 PM
Why are you talking about dinosaurs lol

Okay just read some other answers to get a feel of what the OP was asking. Its not that hard. Based on our current info including leaks and a f**king trailer which is obviously not fake, what are you MORE INTERESTED IN SEEING?

You over complicating the question at this stage either just because you don't wanna be wrong or because you simply still don't get it. Reading some of your previous posts it seems like english might not be your first language so I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and say you just don't get it and I'll try to break it down even further.

(A)Classic Xenomorph - As seen in the 1979 original maybe with some minor changes.

(B)Neomorph - I comes from spore infected crew. Emerges from backs a throats. Is pale with spikes.

Now. Even with this basic info (there is more out there and weather it's true or false is besides the point). WHAT ONE ARE YOU MORE INTERESTED IS SEEING ON THE SCREEN AT THE CINEMA?!

Possible answers - "A" or "B" or "I'm not interested in seeing any therefore wtf am I even doing in this thread?"
Any other answer is just spam towards a very straightforward question and I'll just treat it like the spam/trolling it is and ignore.

A Mosasaur isn't a dinosaur, I specifically didn't use that word.

Regardless the point was it was presented which sold the movie.

A neo hasn't sold the movie, u call it pale we don't know even that, trailer was so vague n even the gif somebody did on this forum showed it blurry. We don't know if it gets any bigger. People who want to see the movie will expect a large dude like in shower scene. Nobody comes to see some xeno-gremlin...

What the f**k are you talking about lol because whatever it is, its got nothing to do with OP's question. No ones saying anything about whats selling the movie or how big any of these creatures are. He is simply asking are you more interested in a Xenomorph or a spore transmitted, back bursting Neomorph.

It wouldn't even matter if neither of these were in the movie! Cuz he's not asking what you think is gonna be in the movie! He's asking, between 2 VERY SIMPLE OPTIONS...

WHAT WOULD YOU WANNA SEE MORE!?

Holy shit this is hilarious. Please stop writing idiotic things as I don't wanna call someone I don't even know a straight up idiot. It might hurt your feelings lol

You really are this dense? You want to compare two creatures, one of whom we have no clear image of, just a name, comes out of back EVERYTHING ELSE IS RUMOR WITH ZERO PROOF.

f**k, I should sell u an old car, wrap it up n claim it's a ferrari!

no ones asking you to compare the two! lol and you call me dense lol
he's asking which one your more interested in seeing for the 100th f**king time.
you could have literally no info on the neomorph except the name and still be interested in seeing it. actually maybe more so because so little is known. jesus christ its like trying to explain rocket science to a chimp.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2017, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
How about everyone and that means both of you calm down and quit with the uncivil behavior? it takes two to tango so neither of you are better than the other if you answer an insult with another insult, just ignore each other and get on with sticking to the topic, things don't need to get personal at all, this is fiction, being right or wrong matters not. Carry on and I will bring the admins here.

No admin. It's Hicks! :D
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 07:38:31 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2017, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
How about everyone and that means both of you calm down and quit with the uncivil behavior? it takes two to tango so neither of you are better than the other if you answer an insult with another insult, just ignore each other and get on with sticking to the topic, things don't need to get personal at all, this is fiction, being right or wrong matters not. Carry on and I will bring the admins here.

No admin. It's Hicks! :D

What?
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Infected on Jan 08, 2017, 07:39:25 PM
What if the neomorph has a lizard tongue? Able to wrap it around your throat and attack your guts while you are trying to grasp for air and trying to break free.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 07:41:51 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
How about everyone and that means both of you calm down and quit with the uncivil behavior? it takes two to tango so neither of you are better than the other if you answer an insult with another insult, just ignore each other and get on with sticking to the topic, things don't need to get personal at all, this is fiction, being right or wrong matters not. Carry on and I will bring the admins here.

I'll gladly ignore him from now on but I'll just say that spamming/trolling should have no place either.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2017, 07:44:10 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 07:38:31 PM
Quote from: Ingwar on Jan 08, 2017, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 07:31:31 PM
How about everyone and that means both of you calm down and quit with the uncivil behavior? it takes two to tango so neither of you are better than the other if you answer an insult with another insult, just ignore each other and get on with sticking to the topic, things don't need to get personal at all, this is fiction, being right or wrong matters not. Carry on and I will bring the admins here.

No admin. It's Hicks! :D

What?

It was a joke :) It's not just admin. It's Corporal. Just ignore me :)
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 07:47:17 PM
Yes but think about it like this and in a hypothetical situation....what do you not do to a troll? (Not saying anyone here is a troll fyi)
Do not feed them, Ignore them, ignore people you think is causing trouble, simple as.

Now can we all just try and be civil now?
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 07:47:24 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 07:30:37 PM
Quote from: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 07:17:58 PM
Quote from: FreeFacehugz on Jan 08, 2017, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: SuicideDoors on Jan 08, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
Do we have to get so hostile? We're all Alien fans aren't we?

You would think so but its ridiculous when people feel the need to undermine a perfectly valid question with stupid off topic points that have no place in this particular thread. Either they should add to the discussion or go start their own thread tbh lol

Demanding definition of one of the options undermines ur rumor, oh what a shame.

Demanding? lol and who the f**k are you to "demand"? lol jesus you are like some spoilt rich kid. if you don't wanna answer the question then don't answer it. but don't start acting like its not a valid question just because you haven't got everything about the possible creatures spoon fed to you before the movie comes out.

We know that what we've heard about the Neomorph might not be true, but that's just another reason to be interested in what its actually gonna be like. Do you really not get that? We know there is a creature that for now is being referred to as the Neomorph and that is all the info you actually need to op to be able to ask his question.

Lol backtracking now? First peoplr r mad i don't believe rumors n now admitting it was rumors all along...

Let me know when we get a real source that neo will grow to near bio-mech classic xeno size, until then the neo is not in the same league which makes this tread premature imo.

The neo is nothing but a zergling until proven different.

We need a picture of classic xeno full grown next to the only confirmed size of tiny neo to illustrate just how wrong this poll is. I didn't want to be so blunt about ur xeno-gremlin, but u just HAD TO attack my scepticism.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 07:47:55 PM
Alright gents, let's take it down a notch please. There's zero need to insult each other. If you can't disagree without digging at each other, just don't post. Next person to snipe gets their ability to post removed.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 08:07:03 PM
thanks hicks. let's get this party back to the neomorph and xenomorph please
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 08:09:26 PM
Yes kudos.

Since I believe the Xenomorphs needs to redeem themselves on the silver screen, I want to see them the most, what they will do and how they will be designed because there is a slight noticeable difference in design, especially the eggs.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 08:14:53 PM
if any, i would like to see them being super-intelligent. i think we're not going to see that unfortunately, as the aliens events turned it into rather an 'animal' following orders thing, but perhaps there's room to play with.

Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 08:25:06 PM
They were always just animals...doesn't take away from them, hell we are all animals.  :laugh:

Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: 426Buddy on Jan 08, 2017, 08:36:54 PM
I dont know about seeing them be super smart but that debunked rumor about the alien interacting with the ships circuitry and wiring actually had me kinda interested.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 08:41:44 PM
The one in the mural could have been sentient n the Engineers tried to duplicate the process for their own benefit but lack a crucial piece of the puzzle, so the only xenomorphs we have seen are animal-like only.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 08:44:27 PM
but that's exactly the thing i would like to see more, less animal, more intelligence. the thing is, when it's portrayed too much like an animal - in alien:resurection they were more like lions, it takes away from it's scarefactor imho. i would rather see it with human intelligence. instinctively, i don't care. just so intelligent that it's able to have awareness. like them finding out how to open doors through numeral codes or something like that, i don't know. and not by trial and error, but by high intelligence.

no tools, no cavemen brains. pure intelligence.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 08, 2017, 08:49:47 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 08:44:27 PM
but that's exactly the thing i would like to see more, less animal, more intelligence. the thing is, when it's portrayed too much like an animal - in alien:resurection they were more like lions, it takes away from it's scarefactor imho. i would rather see it with human intelligence. instinctively, i don't care. just so intelligent that it's able to have awareness. like them finding out how to open doors through numeral codes or something like that, i don't know. and not by trial and error, but by high intelligence.

no tools, no cavemen brains. pure intelligence.

Alien: Resurrection showed them operating switches and in Aliens, they cut the power and the Queen took advantage of a lift.

Too much intelligence by not be good either, Aliens are best as an unreasonable and instinctive force.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: ReluctantNerd on Jan 08, 2017, 09:04:39 PM
Original big chap xeno please... All those non-Giger designs look idiotic to me and remind me of the kind of not-exactly alien enemies you fight or hide from in countless abandoned spacestation games. The original is and was mysterious, obviously bio-mechanical (I seem to remember something about it being that way so it would be able to blend in with mechanical surroundings), had a cool and brutal penetrating double jaw and seemed evil and possessed with a malicious intelligence, sadistic even. I always imagined it knew its way around human environments because it inherited information from its host, hence it would be able to know and open doors, cut power, use tactics etcetera.
If the deacon and those neomorph models in the producion pics are anything to go by, I'm not expecting to be wowed by any new designs. And that
Spoiler
shooting spikes from its back
[close]
rumour concerning the neomorph is so incredibly videogame lame that I refuse to believe it for now (pet peeve). What is it going to do
Spoiler
after it's shot them, collect them and put them back?
[close]
So yeah classic xeno all the way...
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 09:13:20 PM
Just to clear up that argument from earlier about the Neomorphs growing -

"Back in the medbay, Ejogo is trying to help the infected man. Spikes suddenly pop out of his back and cut her. She reels back and then his spine seems to BURST OPEN and fall to the floor, some type of creature attached to it. Like a newborn, it kind of wiggles around a bit as it "wakes up". We get a closer look at the creature and it's basically a dog-sized white-colored xenomorph with spikes on its back. It seems to grow slightly bigger with each passing second. It charges at Ejogo and she kicks it away. It turns to come back, attacking her, scratching and clawing. She defends herself as they struggle in a huge puddle of blood."

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/alien-covenant-trailer-interview-wkatherine-waterston-preview-scenes-103

And also from our own reveal of the Neomorph last year:

"When they mature, they grow significantly larger and walk on their back legs. They were more animal-like in behaviour with fang-like teeth. Unlike the earlier Prometheus concepts, the Neomorphs also have tails. In addition, the adult Neomorphs also developed a slightly translucent appearance (harkening back to unused concepts from Alien and Prometheus) as previously rumored."


http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/10/24/neomorphs-alien-covenants-new-aliens/
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: 426Buddy on Jan 08, 2017, 09:23:29 PM
I cant wait to see them that's for sure, they sound creepy looking.

I can't decide since Im interested in the Neomorphs but I can't wait to see scotts take on the original xeno with modern effects.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 09:33:22 PM
Quote from: ReluctantNerd on Jan 08, 2017, 09:04:39 PM
Original big chap xeno please... All those non-Giger designs look idiotic to me and remind me of the kind of not-exactly alien enemies you fight or hide from in countless abandoned spacestation games. The original is and was mysterious, obviously bio-mechanical (I seem to remember something about it being that way so it would be able to blend in with mechanical surroundings), had a cool and brutal penetrating double jaw and seemed evil and possessed with a malicious intelligence, sadistic even. I always imagined it knew its way around human environments because it inherited information from its host, hence it would be able to know and open doors, cut power, use tactics etcetera.
If the deacon and those neomorph models in the producion pics are anything to go by, I'm not expecting to be wowed by any new designs. And that
Spoiler
shooting spikes from its back
[close]
rumour concerning the neomorph is so incredibly videogame lame that I refuse to believe it for now (pet peeve). What is it going to do
Spoiler
after it's shot them, collect them and put them back?
[close]
So yeah classic xeno all the way...

regarding the giger-theme....

if i remember correctly, giger's designs were very disturbing in the sense that they were above all a mix of sex,death, and mechanical.
i dont remember well whether giger designed it specifically for alien, i always remembered it as that giger made those designs before or around the same time and that ridley somehow was advised on taking a look which lead to them adapting gigers designs into the alien, which originally, looked really reaaaaaaly stoooopid and would have made it the biggest fail ever if persued through.

so again, it was a mixture of death, sex and mechanical, morbid displays of lust. essentially, it could be translated into beings [exhuman] that turn into solid immovable objects that are connected to the walls, floors, etc. and at the same time physically connected to a sexual partner, where one is being penetrated in the mouth through a 'phallic' mechanical-like object whilst essentiall having intercourse with the other, bodies fused together and performing morbid sexual intercourse...forever? artistic, but disturbed mind this giger dude had.

ridley used these designs to turn it into the alien monster we see in the franchise.

well thats how i remember it anyway.

Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 08, 2017, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 08, 2017, 08:44:27 PM
but that's exactly the thing i would like to see more, less animal, more intelligence. the thing is, when it's portrayed too much like an animal - in alien:resurection they were more like lions, it takes away from it's scarefactor imho. i would rather see it with human intelligence. instinctively, i don't care. just so intelligent that it's able to have awareness. like them finding out how to open doors through numeral codes or something like that, i don't know. and not by trial and error, but by high intelligence.

no tools, no cavemen brains. pure intelligence.

I'm thinking the black goo is corrupted, unable to create a sentient creature. Maybe wasn't black to begin with.

The Xenomorphs on the surface should be oblivious to humans since stress in animals is due to percieved threat n availability of resources.

Creatures who are less stressed out are less likely to attack. I know that's not Hollywood creatures, they always roar n attack...

"Hey, plz don't run, human, can't you see I'm starving with this large creature in my mouth!"
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi68.tinypic.com%2Frsttdu.jpg&hash=e80b365413420c36982c6bb858e545707c2d369e)

Just watch any nature show, packs of lions who just ate aren't going to chase down every freaking gazelle n zebra in the vicinity n ignore them also if drinking.
The xenomorph is in perma attack-mode...

Even though we "confirmed" on this forum (can't find thread) that it gets it's energy mostly from it's immediate environment and not from humans that can't possibly supply enough energy to run such a jacked up creature like a xenomorph...That it's bio-mechanical n like the Engineer ship don't run out of energy.

The fellow in the mural may have had its dna corrupted with engineer dna, so they could figure out how to upgrade themselves but they lack a missing piece so they get only animal-like angry buggers..
While I dislike Alien Resurrection, I keep thinking about clone-Ripley having the memories of original-Ripley, from a bio-mech perspective she would kept that 'data' so that makes me wonder, does every Xenomorph have the memories hardwired that the fellow on the mural was corrupted n who did it and why? If so, the aggression could be maybe because of revenge, but mostly about freedom, to cut the strings...



We are Dr.Frankenstein n the monster wants to be free but can't change what it is. The Xenomorph also, it's a hybrid of the fellow on the mural n engineer dna and by extension the Xenomorphs hate humans as well. The Xenomorph is a slave-race n by knowing they can never get free from being monsters, they will lash out.

To create a pure un-corrupted form, one would have to remove the 'corruption' under the microscope but that requires also to recognize our kind has been invasive and have to put ego aside. This is why Weyland-Yutani would hit a brick wall even if they got the eggs, black goo in their labs, because their agenda just corrupts further.
It's like Frodo throwing the ring into the volcano, dispose of power, and why, for the sake of the fellow in the mural whose attitude n behavior we don't even know? Could be a bigger threat than even the Xenomorphs, the Engineers worshiped the darn thing!

Dunno, just trying to figure out the motivation of the Xenomorphs...but then again it's Hollywood, like the Vastosaurus, will always attack for thrills.


Quote from: ReluctantNerd on Jan 08, 2017, 09:04:39 PM
Original big chap xeno please... All those non-Giger designs look idiotic to me and remind me of the kind of not-exactly alien enemies you fight or hide from in countless abandoned spacestation games. The original is and was mysterious, obviously bio-mechanical (I seem to remember something about it being that way so it would be able to blend in with mechanical surroundings), had a cool and brutal penetrating double jaw and seemed evil and possessed with a malicious intelligence, sadistic even. I always imagined it knew its way around human environments because it inherited information from its host, hence it would be able to know and open doors, cut power, use tactics etcetera.
If the deacon and those neomorph models in the producion pics are anything to go by, I'm not expecting to be wowed by any new designs. And that
Spoiler
shooting spikes from its back
[close]
rumour concerning the neomorph is so incredibly videogame lame that I refuse to believe it for now (pet peeve). What is it going to do
Spoiler
after it's shot them, collect them and put them back?
[close]
So yeah classic xeno all the way...

Lol agree so much...they are fumbling...wish Giger was still alive...


Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 08, 2017, 09:13:20 PM
Just to clear up that argument from earlier about the Neomorphs growing -

"Back in the medbay, Ejogo is trying to help the infected man. Spikes suddenly pop out of his back and cut her. She reels back and then his spine seems to BURST OPEN and fall to the floor, some type of creature attached to it. Like a newborn, it kind of wiggles around a bit as it "wakes up". We get a closer look at the creature and it's basically a dog-sized white-colored xenomorph with spikes on its back. It seems to grow slightly bigger with each passing second. It charges at Ejogo and she kicks it away. It turns to come back, attacking her, scratching and clawing. She defends herself as they struggle in a huge puddle of blood."

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/alien-covenant-trailer-interview-wkatherine-waterston-preview-scenes-103

I have heard many stories on its skin, even with her saying it now, I don't see how it makes it more bad-ass. No offense meant, but I'm more worried about the rumor of the beluga head which makes it look retarded n could affect how well this movie will do if confirmed. If people start posting online "Dude, did you hear? They decided to make a movie about the Alien's retarded cousin! I'm going to go watch that other sci-fi horror movie that comes out then instead, LIFE".

A movie needs something to pull people in, the Ultramorph would sell it, possibly.

QuoteAnd also from our own reveal of the Neomorph last year:

"When they mature, they grow significantly larger and walk on their back legs. They were more animal-like in behaviour with fang-like teeth. Unlike the earlier Prometheus concepts, the Neomorphs also have tails. In addition, the adult Neomorphs also developed a slightly translucent appearance (harkening back to unused concepts from Alien and Prometheus) as previously rumored."


http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/10/24/neomorphs-alien-covenants-new-aliens/

Using info from previous movie, rumors some un-confirmed, some confirmed. I'm sorry it has to be better than this, maybe it's all right, I can't believe anything around these rumor-centrals. I'm not some kid anymore to scoop up stuff at face value..

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F68.media.tumblr.com%2F6048c9141c6026d2dad8df63f27e2540%2Ftumblr_nw7qd69pVZ1sbqrlmo4_1280.jpg&hash=0c1403e6823aae85672b6b5b6193250ff6d78a3c)
If someone wants to make a thread asking what is more exciting, a xenomorph face-hugger, or a drone. Very few would choose the hugger if the only confirmed information they had to go by was pre-Prometheus spider and a Trilobyte wasn't confirmed n it's end-size, I would have a hard time thinking anything's comparable in cool factor to a drone (still wouldn't be, but still).

Meh, don't care either way, I want something new..
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So many artists out there creating cool ass shit...instead someone decided to make a monster out of this guy..

I'll probably face-palm the chair in front of me at the end of the movie if that's the only thing we got...


Quote from: Infected on Jan 08, 2017, 07:39:25 PM
What if the neomorph has a lizard tongue? Able to wrap it around your throat and attack your guts while you are trying to grasp for air and trying to break free.

Speaking of some freaky stuff like that

listen from 3:45

Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: juxtapose on Jan 09, 2017, 01:57:09 AM
well i take it you voted for the xeno then astronoe?. .awesome. . We know what to expect from big chap and he's always gonna be a show stealer. .but i am more curious about the neo caise all we know about it for certain is from the guys that saw the ten minute clips that fox held a while back. . Those are not rumours. .those are legit. .and based on those i am very curious. .they could easily screw up the design. .take the new born as an example, but here's hoping they don't. . They still related to the xeno to some extend so i am hopefull that we get another sleek and unique design roughtly based on gigers art. .so even the neo would not look the way it does without giger's influence. .anyway this thread's been thoroughly entertaining and often halarious. .my only regret is not making any popcorn. . .lol
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 09, 2017, 02:29:02 AM

I want to see this new Neomorph. I think it's going to be really big after it molts into its full form.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 09, 2017, 02:29:16 AM
Quote from: juxtapose on Jan 09, 2017, 01:57:09 AM
well i take it you voted for the xeno then astronoe?. .awesome. . We know what to expect from big chap and he's always gonna be a show stealer. .but i am more curious about the neo caise all we know about it for certain is from the guys that saw the ten minute clips that fox held a while back. . Those are not rumours. .those are legit. .and based on those i am very curious. .they could easily screw up the design. .take the new born as an example, but here's hoping they don't. . They still related to the xeno to some extend so i am hopefull that we get another sleek and unique design roughtly based on gigers art. .so even the neo would not look the way it does without giger's influence. .anyway this thread's been thoroughly entertaining and often halarious. .my only regret is not making any popcorn. . .lol

I wanted to vote for Ultramorph...if it doesn't show but we get Neo-Beluga only i'll be sad  :'(

hoping they are saving some engineers for next movie or the one after that so we get the ultramorph..
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Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2017, 08:23:22 AM
Since it looks like they're steering the prequels back to a more direct Alien path, I wouldn't be too surprised to see the Ultramorph show up somewhere down the line. I'm looking forward to it actually!
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 09, 2017, 08:55:45 AM
well they did mention 'running from giant aliens' and to be honest, when i hear giant aliens i dont think about the xeno, i dont think about the neomorph, and i dont think engineers really too. that holds for me only 2 left; either the real space-jockey (it was frigging massive) or the possible ultramorph.

as for new aliens;

i do dig the new 'alien king' statue. i think it's really cool, and would bring an interesting take if implemented well into a story. but i think its not really there to fit anywhere but a avp-esque universe.

as for the giger-ultramorph; personally i just dont like it's too phallic. its dicks everywhere. i'll be honest here, it reminds me of immature people that like to draw dicks everywhere. i mean its head is essentially a giant c*ck and it's having a gigantic slong that it holds in his hands.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2017, 09:13:07 AM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 09, 2017, 08:55:45 AM
well they did mention 'running from giant aliens' and to be honest, when i hear giant aliens i dont think about the xeno, i dont think about the neomorph, and i dont think engineers really too. that holds for me only 2 left; either the real space-jockey (it was frigging massive) or the possible ultramorph.

"I'm was sort of running towards the trouble in Fantastic Beasts, whereas in Alien I'm running from it. Ridley is a little sadistic. He likes it to feel pretty scary on set. There were days when there were really enormous Aliens chasing me and I was in a cumbersome spacesuit."

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2016/11/15/katherine-waterston-talks-chased-enormous-aliens/

I imagine she's just talking about good ol' Big Chap there.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 09, 2017, 09:44:52 AM
enormous aliens chasing me to me doesn't sound like big chap. to be honest. big chap is big, not enormeous. also, the xeno at the end of the trailer doesnt look enormeous to me. yes, has big fingers, but i didnt get the feeling it was enormeous. enormeous makes me think of queen-sized aliens.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2017, 09:45:32 AM
To the best of my knowledge, there's

Spoiler
no Queen Aliens in Covenant. Just Big Chap and the Neomorphs.
[close]
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: OmegaZilla on Jan 09, 2017, 09:46:24 AM
betting a couple cents that there'll be some sort of fight between the classic big chap and the neomorph

Jurassic World style
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2017, 09:49:03 AM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jan 09, 2017, 09:46:24 AM
betting a couple cents that there'll be some sort of fight between the classic big chap and the neomorph

Jurassic World style

Spoiler
I understand there isn't.
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Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 09, 2017, 10:02:36 AM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jan 09, 2017, 09:46:24 AM
betting a couple cents that there'll be some sort of fight between the classic big chap and the neomorph

Jurassic World style

that wouldnt make much sense to be honest, they'll serve a common goal so i don't see why they would attack eachother - though on the other hand, the newborn didnt give af. not impossible, but imho i wouldnt see why nor how it would be implemented well. i think the series should keep away from trying to just be 'amazeballs' cgi just to please nerdgasms. i mean sure, i liked the jurassic world rex battle but that is an entire different field and quite frankly, a movie intended to be 'amazeballs'. like a movie trying to be a roller coaster ride (not talking about the original jurassic park).

and i'll also take hicks word for it.

i rather would like to see engineers running for their lives from the xenos/neos in a big frenzy.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 09, 2017, 12:27:06 PM
Indeed, they are both bioweapons aimed at humanity and not each other....that said, the fire and stone series makes it clear that the black stuff does affect Xenomorphs too, and an infected individual was killing Xenomorphs.

Mind you I personally consider the black stuff to be the pinnacle of their bio-weapons, not the precursor because the chemical has multiple applications and terraforming capability whereas Xenos only cleanse., so maybe the chemical would be used to wipe out other bioweapons if they had been used before the new one.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: OpenMaw on Jan 09, 2017, 12:28:34 PM
Black goo... Interstellar weed killer.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 09, 2017, 12:31:18 PM
Pretty much yeah....now to give it good advertisement and sell it.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: OmegaZilla on Jan 09, 2017, 03:10:46 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2017, 09:49:03 AM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jan 09, 2017, 09:46:24 AM
betting a couple cents that there'll be some sort of fight between the classic big chap and the neomorph

Jurassic World style

Spoiler
I understand there isn't.
[close]
good, good
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: The Cruentus on Jan 09, 2017, 03:40:33 PM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jan 09, 2017, 03:10:46 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2017, 09:49:03 AM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jan 09, 2017, 09:46:24 AM
betting a couple cents that there'll be some sort of fight between the classic big chap and the neomorph

Jurassic World style

Spoiler
I understand there isn't.
[close]
good, good
I have no idea why but you just reminded me of Palpatine  :laugh:
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Astronoë on Jan 09, 2017, 04:42:12 PM
Quote from: cliffhanger on Jan 09, 2017, 10:02:36 AM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jan 09, 2017, 09:46:24 AM
betting a couple cents that there'll be some sort of fight between the classic big chap and the neomorph

Jurassic World style

that wouldnt make much sense to be honest, they'll serve a common goal so i don't see why they would attack eachother - though on the other hand, the newborn didnt give af. not impossible, but imho i wouldnt see why nor how it would be implemented well. i think the series should keep away from trying to just be 'amazeballs' cgi just to please nerdgasms. i mean sure, i liked the jurassic world rex battle but that is an entire different field and quite frankly, a movie intended to be 'amazeballs'. like a movie trying to be a roller coaster ride (not talking about the original jurassic park).

and i'll also take hicks word for it.

i rather would like to see engineers running for their lives from the xenos/neos in a big frenzy.

Once I had a nightmare about a T-Rex outside my house sniffing around, I hid on second floor, lol...I wish someone would make a proper R-rated horror movie with dinosaurs. While I like Jurassic Park n such family friendly RAWRosaurs n silly jokes..
they were real giant monsters and I don't like that when they bite each other n we don't get to see proper damage. For example that darn baboon king kong had 2 t-rex bite him n he only got scratches when they chomped down...I want to see terror and rivers of blood :)
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: cliffhanger on Jan 09, 2017, 04:57:39 PM
i dont think there's a big enough crowd for that. they weren't actually monsters, that's how hollywood would like to portray them. didn't you say yourself that about how humans wouldnt pose much threat for a rex that just ate?

also, dinosaurs remind a lot of birds. hell, they were labeled dinosaurs decades ago, and were painted in a completely wrong picture, but that picture never seems to be shed. it's funny how raptors are always painted as the super-intelligent human-level-like thinking capabilities, group-organised superkillers, that seem always to be hungry for murder. it only got tamed down a tiny bit by having a human 'alpha leader'.

reality is surely far from it. lions are dangerous, yes. but you can also see that lions even in a pack, humans can more or less join and have a very good bond, and i'm actually talking about wild lions. and sure, there have been instances where it turned against them. they're not constantly sweeping through africa in a pack only interested in causing mayhem. they're not a useless brainless gang or posse that think selling dope, spraypainting, and throwing handsigns actually mean something and trash their environment to shame wherever they go. that's only left for braindamaged human losers. not in the animal kingdom.

to get such a level of horror-uberkill bloodthirsty dino madness you only need to look at the game dino crisis. that was pretty scary when it first came out though, liked it a lot. i agree it would make a good movie but it has to have some sort of zombie-like rabies virus contagion as a cause for them to turn on everything that moves and kill and maim horrendously. but please, no strauss brothers jerkoff competition type movie.

anyway, if any, i hope the aliens are much harder to kill with guns then in aliens. i reason that they had 'explosive bullets' but still popped way too easy.
i prefer seeing aliens still coming after you crawiling or hopping missing several limbs.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: OmegaZilla on Jan 09, 2017, 05:10:52 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Jan 09, 2017, 03:40:33 PM
I have no idea why but you just reminded me of Palpatine  :laugh:
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Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: Pvt. Himmel on Jan 09, 2017, 05:41:44 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 09, 2017, 09:49:03 AM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Jan 09, 2017, 09:46:24 AM
betting a couple cents that there'll be some sort of fight between the classic big chap and the neomorph

Jurassic World style

Spoiler
I understand there isn't.
[close]

Spoiler
Thank God for that!!
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Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: ReluctantNerd on Jan 09, 2017, 08:26:19 PM
In reply to someone mentioning the how and why of the Giger design in Alien, it is true if I remember correctly (someone here will know) that it was a case of 'hey Ridley you should check out this guy Giger's work' and that's how a Giger monster ended up as the villain in the best slasher is in space film. Originally they were going for a rather typical insectoid design I think. So it was just a stroke of luck that made this whole franchise what it is, as the Giger design carried with it all of the perversity, mystery and menace that typified Giger's work (who was also heavily into the occult). This was not just any movie monster, this was a design by a real artist who had been digging very deep in the human psyche, brought to life on the screen. And the other creation, the Space Jockey, was equally outré and also entirely Giger's work. Scott just got lucky with the combination of elements that came together at that time (including his own talent as a director of course). Abandoning Giger's design is probably inevitable now in order to take the story in the direction they want to take it, but for me there's nothing left in the creature design (except for the Engineers, they were well done, even if they indeed looked a bit chubby) that makes me want to know more about the creature. It might have new appendages for busting, ripping, slashing or - aaaargh - shooting, but there's nothing about it that makes me wonder (looking at you Prometheus creatures).

Incidentally, the Crowleyan occultism Giger was into may or may not be consciously referenced in the Covenant patch, which features the winged sun which was one of Crowley's Order symbols (and a design very similar to Egyptian based design too).
Anyway as we obviously didn't venture into psychosexual Lovecraftian darkness with Prometheus, I guess we'll mainly be looking at a lot of attempts by designers at creating something as awesome as the original alien from now on. And now I'm thinking of the Deacon for example... Yeah there's a shark with a detachable jaw or something, lets do something like that, Giger did a lot of weird things too. So what does it do with that retractable jaw thing, punch you in the eye? Nibble at you from some 10 centimetres further than without it? I want to put that thing out of its misery, not run away screaming. O well, as I've been in trainwreck watching mode since being disappointed in Prometheus I'm enjoying watching it all turn to sh*t.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: juxtapose on Jan 09, 2017, 08:33:36 PM
. .you cannot have a hairless werewolf befriending school kids. .(werewolfs are equally scary imo. . ) and fetching the soccer ball from the neighbours roof. . Nay f**k that shit. . I want. . I wooant terror and blood and shit and tears and hair. .it's time!. . .lol


. .not a reply. . Just a random thought. .
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: echobbase79 on Jan 09, 2017, 08:45:05 PM

I really hope they don't have the two fighting. They should be working together like someone else said. I didn't look at any of the spoilers comments but it sounds like they will end up fighting.
Title: Re: xeno vs neo
Post by: juxtapose on Jan 09, 2017, 09:00:07 PM
. .it would be interesting if these creatures crossed path. .difficult to fathom how they would react. . . I am very curious ! !


. .i doubt it will happen in this movie tho. . Plenty of time in the sequals. .