Poll
Question:
Choose
Option 1: Aliens "2" (Blomkamp Project)
Option 2: New Storyline
Option 3: Alien 5 (Resurrection Sequel)
So I've been thinking and I've figured this would be a interesting subject to do. to gauge how many people here on AVP-Galaxy would prefer what we know of Alien 5 or a entirely new storyline one that does not follow Ripley to be the new movie. now the main thing for the poll is there can be no preconceived ideas of what the New storyline should be, this poll gauges whether or not the majority wants the Alien Series to return to Ripley or go to a new and mysterious original Story if they had the choice. so think long and hard about the choice you will vote for because you can not revote on it, it's up to you to decide.
So do not vote for what you think some fans or other fans might prefer it's you're choice.
What about an option for the one true alien 5, the sequel to alien resurrection? I mean at least freaking try to keep the story together in some coherent fashion.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Aug 25, 2016, 09:53:53 AM
What about an option for the one true alien 5, the sequel to alien resurrection? I mean at least freaking try to keep the story together in some coherent fashion.
I originally started it with just the New Storyline and Alien 5 as the options because I figured if you start adding several ideas like a return to the aesthetic of Alien than the poll becomes less accurate, as some people may prefer their ideas to the others and blah blah. the poll becomes a bit of a mess.
So New Storyline represented a unknown entry to the series all that is known to anybody is it wouldn't focus on Ripley and would simply be new, but a sequel to Res is indeed a good poll choice.
I would have actually edited that in if somebody hadn't already done that for and hijacked my poll hehe :D
Anyway, I reset the poll you can now vote for the Resquel if you want.
Quote from: g2vd on Aug 25, 2016, 11:19:55 AM
I would have actually edited that in if somebody hadn't already done that for and hijacked my poll hehe :D
Sorry. :P
Oh man ran him over like Ripley running over an alien in the APC. :P
However, thanks man. It is a legitimate option in that a traditional sequel would follow the events of the previous movie. Also I don't think having Ripley return would be as much of a problem in an A|R sequel. Of course that would mean Hick's and Newt are bye-bye. Yet that is the movie I'd rather see made.
I'm all for the sequel to A:R. The currently cannonical novels have portrayed a really cool change in times after the events of that movie.
I think your poll is flawed somewhat in that a true "Alien 5" and a sequel to Alien Resurrection are one in the same. It may be too late but I suggest changing Alien 5 to what you truly mean: Aliens 2.
New storylines, new crews and none have seen an Alien yet. I'm also very happy with a few more movies like Alien Covenent directed by Scott.
Quote from: Kurai on Aug 25, 2016, 01:51:09 PM
I think your poll is flawed somewhat in that a true "Alien 5" and a sequel to Alien Resurrection are one in the same. It may be too late but I suggest changing Alien 5 to what you truly mean: Aliens 2.
You guys are going to make me edit this poll all day aren't you. :D
No prob, The titles have been edited
They can be changed back if anyone objects.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 25, 2016, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: g2vd on Aug 25, 2016, 11:19:55 AM
I would have actually edited that in if somebody hadn't already done that for and hijacked my poll hehe :D
Sorry. :P
No problem. :D
To be honest, I'd rather take a completely new storyline or a sequel to Resurrection than the retcon. Resurrection wasn't a great film but it had some decent concepts in that could be explored far better. I think Ripley 8 has so much potential that the film just didn't tap into.
I picked sequel to Resurrection because I want to see more of the far future setting, it's an interesting world. A sequel to Resurrection can even take place centuries later and won't have to feature Ripley-8, it could still have all new characters. But I won't mind Ripley-8 because she would probably actively seek out Aliens for some reason, or Call might call her again to take out a new infestation or something.
Aliens 2. Ya gotta give us that proper Ripley send-off. Just one movie for a nice, correct trilogy. Then go nuts with new storylines.
Voted A:R sequel. Bring Rip8, Johner and Call. With tone of make up it's possible ;D Make them go after USM who recently created another clone Rip9 (who looks like queen kerrigan, and prefect is combination of Rip and Alien Queen capable of laying eggs) and are performing combat test of new aquired Aliens on some poor ass colonists. :P
First heard here on AvPGalaxy by yours truly Master.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Aug 26, 2016, 04:54:01 AM
Aliens 2. Ya gotta give us that proper Ripley send-off. Just one movie for a nice, correct trilogy. Then go nuts with new storylines.
They went "nuts" with Alien: Resurrection... :-\ Like literally, you can't go anymore nuts than cloning back a character and extracting its mutated Xeno which eventually gives birth to an even freakier version. Plus all them messed up failed clones.
Really, how much more "nuts" can they go lol? You got exactly that, a PROPER send off (to a fiery doom) for Ripley, an end to her chapter. And finally, a new chapter set centuries later in a new era that was totally NUTS!
Why ask for it again? Instead of something new or continue exploring this new future even further? I mean honestly dude, you STILL get your precious Ripley in it, she's called "RIpley-8" She can easily meet a new badass marine and rescue another girl. Don't worry, humans haven't stopped procreating by 2381, there's plenty more Newts out there.
Ripley-8 could very easily "pass on the torch" to a new character in this post A:R film. Blomkamp's idea could very easily fit here too. Just add "8" to his Ripley and change the date to past 2381, ditch Biehn and probably bring back someone like Johnner. Then find another child actress for your new Newt. YAY! We all win!
Plus Blomkamp could use his creativity in world building to expand upon the A:R era future, I love his work on the Prawn technology in District 9. And his world building in other films looked interesting, especially the technologies. He could really go wild with working on A:R technologies.
But NOOOOooooo.... life's never that easy. :-\ He was almost on the right track with his original idea, where his sequel was RIpley free as it should be. I don't think he realizes how much these three characters shackle and limit his ideas when he could literally go totally nuts without them and bring us another masterpiece like District 9.
I really hate hearing "proper send off" because no one adequately defends this idea, it's always something opinion based (which is fine), but the way they say it belittles the other film which other people already consider a "proper send off". And "go nuts with the next films" already happened as I said, it's called Alien: Resurrection. Do you want another Alien: Resurrection? ;D I loved it, but eh... did the fandom? Not so much.
You are gonna have to define "proper send off" here mate, because Alien 3 could be classed as one. And also "go nuts", because as I mentioned.... last time they went DEEZ NUTS, it didn't get received very well.
Are you insane? ;) :laugh:
1) Alien 3, in my opinion, was not a proper send because it had no respect for the previous two entries.
2) "Go nuts" I didn't mean make a crazy storyline, I meant "feel free to come up with new storylines". New. Not crazy.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Aug 27, 2016, 02:40:32 PM
Are you insane? ;) :laugh:
1) Alien 3, in my opinion, was not a proper send because it had no respect for the previous two entries.
2) "Go nuts" I didn't mean make a crazy storyline, I meant "feel free to come up with new storylines". New. Not crazy.
Yes, I am loony. :P :laugh:
1) That's fair enough, but it's a proper send off to me. :P
2) Alien: Resurrection was a new storyline. ;D I also want a new storyline but one without these three characters, maybe RIpley 8, but that's it.
I think it begins getting silly for her to keep encountering Aliens.
Alien - it made sense, she found them by chance.
Aliens - it also makes sense as she was consulted and with heavy hesitation, she decided to go.
Alien 3 - it makes sense as one somehow snuck aboard and like the Predator said; "shit happens."
Alien: Resurrection - she was cloned because the company wanted the Alien that was within her. I like the idea of the Facehugger infecting the host with a type of cancer, and cancers do alter DNA. So a Xenomorph could be in a host's DNA. This is a good survival strategy if the host is some type of regenerative organism... constant Aliens bursting out of it. It also makes sense how the Chestburster is in the chest cavity and not in your oesophagus or lungs.
I am struggling to think RIpley's motive for Blomkamp's film. We know she wanted to destroy them, but we also know she wanted nothing to do with them and she was torn apart by the whole choice of whether to go or not to go to Acheron.
Frankly, one person constantly encountering them does begin to get a bit too coincidental when humanity as a whole has many people like Ripley just itching to kick some chitinous ass.
QuoteFrankly, one person constantly encountering them does begin to get a bit too coincidental
If she gets involved voluntarily then it's not coincidental. There's a 57 and 30 year gap between encounters, so it's not very constant either.
Ditch Ripley entirely.
As for an 'ALIENS 2', sure Bring it!
Bring back Colonial Marines, absolutely! Who doesn't want to see more USCM vs xeno action? Is Ripley really that necessary to that end? No. What's more, 'She Who Cannot Die' makes no sense in a series of movies where mortality is a criticial theme. Especially when she's already deceased.
Her story has been told. It's over. As a character she has nothing more to add except recycling what we've already seen. The time to move on is long gone. Fresh stories. Fresh characters. Please. It's a big Universe and it should be treated that way.
Pulse rifles. Aliens. Bring the action to another setting. Now, tell you won't go see such a movie without Ripley in it.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: windebieste on Aug 28, 2016, 10:58:21 PM
Ditch Ripley entirely.
As for an 'ALIENS 2', sure Bring it!
Bring back Colonial Marines, absolutely! Who doesn't want to see more USCM vs xeno action? Is Ripley really that necessary to that end? No. What's more, 'She Who Cannot Die' makes no sense in a series of movies where mortality is a criticial theme. Especially when she's already deceased.
Her story has been told. It's over. As a character she has nothing more to add except recycling what we've already seen. The time to move on is long gone. Fresh stories. Fresh characters. Please. It's a big Universe and it should be treated that way.
Pulse rifles. Aliens. Bring the action to another setting. Now, tell you won't go see such a movie without Ripley in it.
I absolutely agree. What's worse with a Ripley-fuelled 'ALIENS 2' is it would really sour the taste of the previous films due to the overexposure and forced plot to fit the character in. Re-watching the first three films would completely lose any tension and it becomes almost like a TV show where you know they're going to get out of whatever scrape they've got into this week.
Not that Alien³ or Resurrection had any tension...
They didn't ?
While I would agree that resurrection didn't really build any tension, Alien3 had lots of it.
Water scene had tons of tension.
And the scene with Gediman and the alien.
I'm basing my opinion on the assumption that they're supposed to be scary horror films at their core. A³ had the trappings of a horror film but focused on boring bleakness. Ressurrection didn't even try.
Aliens also isn't horror per se.
Yeah the those resurrection scenes were suppose to have tension, I would argue that they failed in that regard.
Without having any solid details on what the new story will involve, it's not really possible to give much of an opinion on this. Ripley 8 is certainly not ever going to return, since Weaver has said she doesn't want to portray that character again.
Quote from: Master on Aug 29, 2016, 01:08:56 PM
Aliens also isn't horror per se.
It can be argued that '
Aliens' actually has more horror in it than '
Alien' did. It's at least about equal. It's just that people tend to remember the explosions more (which is ironic, since the Nostromo's demise looked far more destructive).
New storyline would be nice but unlikely. I'm cool with an A:R sequel if done right. Uncharted territory. Has so much potential. Blomkamph's A2 (...A5 - sorry 'bout that!) doesn't interest me the slightest, at least if it's going to follow the premise and concept already presented to us.
@Xenomorphine
I haven't said Aliens isn't horror.
I voted new storyline, although to be truthful my choice would be split with a Res sequel. As naff as that film was, Ripley 8 has genuine potential.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 30, 2016, 08:49:56 PM
I voted new storyline, although to be truthful my choice would be split with a Res sequel. As naff as that film was, Ripley 8 has genuine potential.
Exactly, and with a A:R sequel, all the Siggy fans can have their RIpley in the film and we all win, right? Not to mention us getting to see more of this further future setting, see what else humanity was up to two hundred years after Alien 3. So much to explore and see!
Well, it's been talked to death how 'Alien Resurrection' painted the series into a corner a little too unnecessarily. It essentially got rid of both the Colonial Marines and Weyland-Yutani, only to replace them both with the far more inept United Systems Military. It also essentially destroyed any possibility that the derelict might have survived the explosion of Hadley's hope.
Now, there are ways around those factors, but the actual film limited certain iconic possibilities rather than expanded upon them.
Still, I'm one of those who liked Ripley 8. It's just a shame that the only continuation of her we got was in the awful 'Aliens Versus Predator Versus Terminator' comic, which did the character no real justice, at all (or even the concept it relied upon, come to that).
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 30, 2016, 10:50:47 PM
Well, it's been talked to death how 'Alien Resurrection' painted the series into a corner a little too unnecessarily. It essentially got rid of both the Colonial Marines and Weyland-Yutani, only to replace them both with the far more inept United Systems Military. It also essentially destroyed any possibility that the derelict might have survived the explosion of Hadley's hope.
Now, there are ways around those factors, but the actual film limited certain iconic possibilities rather than expanded upon them.
Still, I'm one of those who liked Ripley 8. It's just a shame that the only continuation of her we got was in the awful 'Aliens Versus Predator Versus Terminator' comic, which did the character no real justice, at all (or even the concept it relied upon, come to that).
The USCM were never gotten rid of, we just don't see them, and, according to the cannonical novels, Weyland-Yutani was still about and used the falling of the Auriga as a platform for taking over pretty much everything. The thing about them being bought out by Wal-mart was pure nonsense said as a way of painting the corporation as a pathetic entity, which considering WY's butting of heads with the military, makes sense.
New storyline. Ripley died. It's one of the reasons I could never get on board with Resurrection
It's a huge Universe with so much potential, something new would be refreshing
Considering what's in those new recent novels, I can't seriously take them as canonical, sorry. Too much unintentionally hilarious moustache-twirling. :)
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 30, 2016, 10:50:47 PM
Well, it's been talked to death how 'Alien Resurrection' painted the series into a corner a little too unnecessarily. It essentially got rid of both the Colonial Marines and Weyland-Yutani, only to replace them both with the far more inept United Systems Military. It also essentially destroyed any possibility that the derelict might have survived the explosion of Hadley's hope.
Now, there are ways around those factors, but the actual film limited certain iconic possibilities rather than expanded upon them.
Still, I'm one of those who liked Ripley 8. It's just a shame that the only continuation of her we got was in the awful 'Aliens Versus Predator Versus Terminator' comic, which did the character no real justice, at all (or even the concept it relied upon, come to that).
I didn't mind the version of Ripley in Female War
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 30, 2016, 03:00:27 AM
Without having any solid details on what the new story will involve, it's not really possible to give much of an opinion on this. Ripley 8 is certainly not ever going to return, since Weaver has said she doesn't want to portray that character again.
Quote from: Master on Aug 29, 2016, 01:08:56 PM
Aliens also isn't horror per se.
It can be argued that 'Aliens' actually has more horror in it than 'Alien' did. It's at least about equal. It's just that people tend to remember the explosions more (which is ironic, since the Nostromo's demise looked far more destructive).
Aliens has just as much horror and suspense. Actually, the turning of the screw is more relentless in Aliens. Just because the tension in Aliens is punctuated with a gunshot rather than a headbite, doesn't mean it's not horror.
Aliens not qualifying as horror is a perplexing notion. Even those who recognize it foremost as an action picture are cognizant that it's
horror.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Aug 30, 2016, 11:24:09 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 30, 2016, 03:00:27 AM
Without having any solid details on what the new story will involve, it's not really possible to give much of an opinion on this. Ripley 8 is certainly not ever going to return, since Weaver has said she doesn't want to portray that character again.
Quote from: Master on Aug 29, 2016, 01:08:56 PM
Aliens also isn't horror per se.
It can be argued that 'Aliens' actually has more horror in it than 'Alien' did. It's at least about equal. It's just that people tend to remember the explosions more (which is ironic, since the Nostromo's demise looked far more destructive).
Aliens has just as much horror and suspense. Actually, the turning of the screw is more relentless in Aliens. Just because the tension in Aliens is punctuated with a gunshot rather than a headbite, doesn't mean it's not horror.
Aliens not qualifying as horror is a perplexing notion. Even those who recognize it foremost as an action picture are cognizant that it's horror.
It's more terror than horror. Which isn't a bad thing. My only gripe with Aliens, is because it's so godamn awesome in places, it's hard to be scared, because I have such a good time watching it
Ah.
I would much prefer a sequel to Alien Resurrection than a retcon, but for some reason that will never happen. I have no idea why though, as there is lots of potential there.
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 31, 2016, 03:09:53 AM
I would much prefer a sequel to Alien Resurrection than a retcon, but for some reason that will never happen. I have no idea why though, as there is lots of potential there.
Totally agree with you on that one.
I wouldn't be surprised though if they go the A:R route anyways, but manage to sneak in both Ripley (Eight) and (some kind of) Hicks in some manner.
What if Ripley 8 IS the Alien threat in the movie - the Queen of the hive - and the only way to get to her is to fokk around with her jumbled hybrid genetic memory, exploiting her human emotions. They manufacture, or clone, an aged Hicks and Newt, maybe even Amanda, to lure her in? Quite hoaky, yes, but so is this whole recon thing. Or maybe having weird dream sequences where Alien Queen Ripley 8 "fight" her back to humanity with this imaginary aged Hicks and Newt? Could fail really bad, but hey - Hicks and Newt is a must, right?
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Aug 31, 2016, 03:31:25 AM
What if Ripley 8 IS the Alien threat in the movie - the Queen of the hive
Alien: Within. The fifth installment of the sci-fi horror classic. ;D
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Aug 31, 2016, 03:31:25 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 31, 2016, 03:09:53 AM
I would much prefer a sequel to Alien Resurrection than a retcon, but for some reason that will never happen. I have no idea why though, as there is lots of potential there.
Totally agree with you on that one.
I wouldn't be surprised though if they go the A:R route anyways, but manage to sneak in both Ripley (Eight) and (some kind of) Hicks in some manner.
What if Ripley 8 IS the Alien threat in the movie - the Queen of the hive - and the only way to get to her is to fokk around with her jumbled hybrid genetic memory, exploiting her human emotions. They manufacture, or clone, an aged Hicks and Newt, maybe even Amanda, to lure her in? Quite hoaky, yes, but so is this whole recon thing. Or maybe having weird dream sequences where Alien Queen Ripley 8 "fight" her back to humanity with this imaginary aged Hicks and Newt? Could fail really bad, but hey - Hicks and Newt is a must, right?
Hicks and Newt perished in the furnace of Fury 161. They were dead before Clemens could take a blood sample.
But I like the idea of Ripley turning into a Queen.
Having Hicks & Newt return in a dream would be cool, also (there was originally going to be a dream sequence with Newt in A:R, and also Michael Biehn turned up in a dream in the extended cut of T2).
You are only limited by your imagination.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 30, 2016, 10:50:47 PM
Well, it's been talked to death how 'Alien Resurrection' painted the series into a corner a little too unnecessarily. It essentially got rid of both the Colonial Marines and Weyland-Yutani, only to replace them both with the far more inept United Systems Military. It also essentially destroyed any possibility that the derelict might have survived the explosion of Hadley's hope.
Now, there are ways around those factors, but the actual film limited certain iconic possibilities rather than expanded upon them.
I think you can get around this for adventures set in between the films but for a sequel following Resurrection, yeah it was unnecessarily painted into a corner. They made the situation that dire that the only way they could get them back was by cloning Ripley.
That's not to say there can't be some other source of Aliens out there that USM didn't know about. Or there's the Ripley 7 scar that can be spun off of.
QuoteStill, I'm one of those who liked Ripley 8. It's just a shame that the only continuation of her we got was in the awful 'Aliens Versus Predator Versus Terminator' comic, which did the character no real justice, at all (or even the concept it relied upon, come to that).
There was Aliens: Original Sin too. That one wasn't too great from what I remember.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 30, 2016, 10:50:47 PMStill, I'm one of those who liked Ripley 8. It's just a shame that the only continuation of her we got was in the awful 'Aliens Versus Predator Versus Terminator' comic, which did the character no real justice, at all (or even the concept it relied upon, come to that).
There was that
Original Sin novel which was a sequel to the film, with Ripley 8 and the other Betty crewmembers in it. Not read it myself.
EDIT: Should've read Hicks' post above :)
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 31, 2016, 06:41:09 AM
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Aug 31, 2016, 03:31:25 AM
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 31, 2016, 03:09:53 AM
I would much prefer a sequel to Alien Resurrection than a retcon, but for some reason that will never happen. I have no idea why though, as there is lots of potential there.
Totally agree with you on that one.
I wouldn't be surprised though if they go the A:R route anyways, but manage to sneak in both Ripley (Eight) and (some kind of) Hicks in some manner.
What if Ripley 8 IS the Alien threat in the movie - the Queen of the hive - and the only way to get to her is to fokk around with her jumbled hybrid genetic memory, exploiting her human emotions. They manufacture, or clone, an aged Hicks and Newt, maybe even Amanda, to lure her in? Quite hoaky, yes, but so is this whole recon thing. Or maybe having weird dream sequences where Alien Queen Ripley 8 "fight" her back to humanity with this imaginary aged Hicks and Newt? Could fail really bad, but hey - Hicks and Newt is a must, right?
Hicks and Newt perished in the furnace of Fury 161. They were dead before Clemens could take a blood sample.
But I like the idea of Ripley turning into a Queen.
Having Hicks & Newt return in a dream would be cool, also (there was originally going to be a dream sequence with Newt in A:R, and also Michael Biehn turned up in a dream in the extended cut of T2).
You are only limited by your imagination.
Yup.
Guess what I voted for?
Blomkampers unite. We need have our voices heard so that Blomkamp's Aliens sequel doesn't get derailed. If you're a supporter of Blomkamp doing a proper Aliens sequel with Ripley, Hicks, Newt and a bit of Bishop, please PM me.
I hope Blomkamp wakes up and realises that it's entirely possible to make a follow up movie, a sequel of sorts to 'ALIENS' without this retcon nonsense which is only geared to do more damage than good.
I'm all for Blomkamp making a new 'ALIENS' movie. I have faith in his ability to do this. The big question is 'Does it have to retcon anything?' Of course, the answer is 'No. He doesn't'.
In which case,
why make a movie that does? Just to satisfy the bleeding hearts in the Community..? Pffft, I say. I ask, what kind of story are you expecting if Ripley keeps rocking up with her flame thrower,
again?
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lol.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: windebieste on Sep 01, 2016, 03:41:43 AM
I hope Blomkamp wakes up and realises that it's entirely possible to make a follow up movie, a sequel of sorts to 'ALIENS' without this retcon nonsense which is only geared to do more damage than good.
I'm all for Blomkamp making a new 'ALIENS' movie. I have faith in his ability to do this. The big question is 'Does it have to retcon anything?' Of course, the answer is 'No. He doesn't'.
In which case, why make a movie that does? Just to satisfy the bleeding hearts in the Community..? Pffft, I say. I ask, what kind of story are you expecting if Ripley keeps rocking up with her flame thrower, again?
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lol.
-Windebieste.
Amen!
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 01, 2016, 03:51:08 AM
Quote from: windebieste on Sep 01, 2016, 03:41:43 AM
I hope Blomkamp wakes up and realises that it's entirely possible to make a follow up movie, a sequel of sorts to 'ALIENS' without this retcon nonsense which is only geared to do more damage than good.
I'm all for Blomkamp making a new 'ALIENS' movie. I have faith in his ability to do this. The big question is 'Does it have to retcon anything?' Of course, the answer is 'No. He doesn't'.
In which case, why make a movie that does? Just to satisfy the bleeding hearts in the Community..? Pffft, I say. I ask, what kind of story are you expecting if Ripley keeps rocking up with her flame thrower, again?
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lol.
-Windebieste.
Amen!
Amen, Brothers!
The funny thing about this situation is that it all could've been avoided if Fox didn't fumble the ball with Alien 3 back in '92! If we had a great movie with a proper Ripley send-off that satisfied the audience, we could've moved onwards from Ripley. We could've followed an adult Newt, or new people entirely! The prequels might've came sooner. Or they could've left the franchise dormant a'la the Back to the Future trilogy.
But now Neill's proposal is out in the ether and it seems too good to be true, to Fox and to many acolytes. Ignoring Alien 3 and 4 actually never occurred to me until Neill brought it up. Now I love the idea.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Sep 01, 2016, 04:08:33 AM
The funny thing about this situation is that it all could've been avoided if Fox didn't fumble the ball with Alien 3 back in '92!
Yes, there was a lot of fumbling during the entire production. I don't think anyone would disagree with you on that one.
QuoteIf we had a great movie with a proper Ripley send-off
But that's LITERALLY what we got!
Quote...that satisfied the audience, we could've moved onwards from Ripley. We could've followed an adult Newt, or new people entirely!
Why can't we have that as the way things are now? Sure, no Newt tales, but seriously...
QuoteThe prequels might've came sooner. Or they could've left the franchise dormant a'la the Back to the Future trilogy.
So in other words it's kind of the same as things are now, but without A3 and A:R?
QuoteBut now Neill's proposal is out in the ether and it seems too good to be true, to Fox and to many acolytes. Ignoring Alien 3 and 4 actually never occurred to me until Neill brought it up. Now I love the idea.
Of course it does, you're an ALIENS fanboy ;)
Alien 3 is an amazing, amazing film. Perfect end to the trilogy. Stunned that we got a film that good (not the theatrical cut.. which is a mess). Back in 1992.
And Alien Resurrection was just the icing on the cake. ;)
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 01, 2016, 03:02:55 AM
Guess what I voted for?
Blomkampers unite. We need have our voices heard so that Blomkamp's Aliens sequel doesn't get derailed. If you're a supporter of Blomkamp doing a proper Aliens sequel with Ripley, Hicks, Newt and a bit of Bishop, please PM me.
Dear lord... You're not going to be knocking on my door preaching the word of the Blomkamp? Are you? :-[
Also...
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 01, 2016, 03:02:55 AM
and a bit of Bishop
I hope that is an intended joke because that's hilarious. ;D
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 01, 2016, 04:30:38 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Sep 01, 2016, 04:08:33 AM
The funny thing about this situation is that it all could've been avoided if Fox didn't fumble the ball with Alien 3 back in '92!
Yes, there was a lot of fumbling during the entire production. I don't think anyone would disagree with you on that one.
QuoteIf we had a great movie with a proper Ripley send-off
But that's LITERALLY what we got!
Quote...that satisfied the audience, we could've moved onwards from Ripley. We could've followed an adult Newt, or new people entirely!
Why can't we have that as the way things are now? Sure, no Newt tales, but seriously...
QuoteThe prequels might've came sooner. Or they could've left the franchise dormant a'la the Back to the Future trilogy.
So in other words it's kind of the same as things are now, but without A3 and A:R?
QuoteBut now Neill's proposal is out in the ether and it seems too good to be true, to Fox and to many acolytes. Ignoring Alien 3 and 4 actually never occurred to me until Neill brought it up. Now I love the idea.
Of course it does, you're an ALIENS fanboy ;)
SpreadEagleBeagle, that wasn't very nice. Putting a winkyface after calling the guy a fanboy doesn't diminish the fact that you belittled BishopShouldGo. We're all fans here. Why is being an Aloens fan qualify you as a somehow immature?
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I know it's kinda childish, but this made me giggle ;D
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I know it's kinda childish, but this made me giggle ;D
Non fanboys don't get to say 'Fanboys', you have to say 'f-word'
You're being problematic
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Quote from: HuDaFuK on Sep 01, 2016, 08:08:04 AM
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I know it's kinda childish, but this made me giggle ;D
Non fanboys don't get to say 'Fanboys', you have to say 'f-word'
You're being problematic
You got it down to a t!
(or an f in this case)
It's technically Weaver's proposal. She's the one who doesn't want to reprise Ripley 8 and convinced him to go down the route of ignoring the two previous films.
And she's been the one person on the production side who's consistently praised and defended the both of them - and apparently still does.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 03, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
It's technically Weaver's proposal. She's the one who doesn't want to reprise Ripley 8 and convinced him to go down the route of ignoring the two previous films.
And she's been the one person on the production side who's consistently praised and defended the both of them - and apparently still does.
Wait, wait...Sorry for being so dense, but you're saying that she doesn't want to play the character of Ripley 8 again and that she has no objections against retconning A3 and A:R, but at the same time she has always defended and praised A3 and A:R?
Kind of confusing.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 03, 2016, 04:38:46 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 03, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
It's technically Weaver's proposal. She's the one who doesn't want to reprise Ripley 8 and convinced him to go down the route of ignoring the two previous films.
And she's been the one person on the production side who's consistently praised and defended the both of them - and apparently still does.
Wait, wait...Sorry for being so dense, but you're saying that she doesn't want to play the character of Ripley 8 again and that she has no objections against retconning A3 and A:R, but at the same time she has always defended and praised A3 and A:R?
Kind of confusing.
Why's that confusing? Maybe she is proud of the work she did but wants to tell a different story.
Bingo.
*coughs
Pay cheque
Perfect Organism and BishopShouldGo, how many extra accounts did you guys make to boost the Blomkamp vote? :P ;D :laugh:
Just kidding. It's interesting to see how these polls are turning out regardless of our views. I wonder why not many people seem to be picking a Resurrection sequel. Is it the stigma associated with A:R?
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Sep 03, 2016, 04:47:10 PM
Perfect Organism and BishopShouldGo, how many extra accounts did you guys make to boost the Blomkamp vote? :P ;D :laugh:
Just kidding. It's interesting to see how these polls are turning out regardless of our views. I wonder why not many people seem to be picking a Resurrection sequel. Is it the stigma associated with A:R?
None, but.. great idea!! kidding :laugh:
For those who support the retcon, I invite you to join the FB page: Aliens.Continuity.Change.
Lol if Weaver was in it for the paycheck she would not have turned down Whedon's Alien 5. His took place on Earth and she didn't want to go to Earth.
Homegirl also has a few Avatars lined up. And other films in general. Paycheck! Paycheck?!
Haaaaa!
Fans of Blomkamp's Alien film featuring Ripley, Hicks, Newt and a bit of Bishop unite! We need to help Neil save this film from the clutches of those who do not like happy endings..
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Sep 03, 2016, 04:47:10 PM
Perfect Organism and BishopShouldGo, how many extra accounts did you guys make to boost the Blomkamp vote? :P ;D :laugh:
It's quite interesting, isn't it? :o
;)
QuoteJust kidding. It's interesting to see how these polls are turning out regardless of our views. I wonder why not many people seem to be picking a Resurrection sequel. Is it the stigma associated with A:R?
Totally related to the stigma of A:R as it seems like people believe that a sequel to A:R _MUST_ look like A:R and _HAS_ to follow the same tone and style as A:R. It's kind of funny and sad at the same time.
Depending on where the story takes place the director of an A:R sequel can do pretty much whatever he/she wants. Ditch characters and design and go for something new or retro, or something in between. Imagination is the limit.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 03, 2016, 08:24:33 PM
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Sep 03, 2016, 04:47:10 PM
Perfect Organism and BishopShouldGo, how many extra accounts did you guys make to boost the Blomkamp vote? :P ;D :laugh:
It's quite interesting, isn't it? :o
;)
QuoteJust kidding. It's interesting to see how these polls are turning out regardless of our views. I wonder why not many people seem to be picking a Resurrection sequel. Is it the stigma associated with A:R?
Totally related to the stigma of A:R as it seems like people believe that a sequel to A:R _MUST_ look like A:R and _HAS_ to follow the same tone and style as A:R. It's kind of funny and sad at the same time.
Depending on where the story takes place the director of an A:R sequel can do pretty much whatever he/she wants. Ditch characters and design and go for something new or retro, or something in between. Imagination is the limit.
I got it. As the main characters are walking through Paris, they get attacked by a gang, where all the characters except Ripley die in the opening credits. Obviously Ripley is a superhero now so she is ok. She finds a lifeboat from the Auriga has landed with a chestbursted guy inside and no sign of the alien. But Ripley now has a sixth sense which tells her the direction where the alien is hiding. Hilarity ensues.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 03, 2016, 08:41:02 PM
I got it. As the main characters are walking through Paris, they get attacked by a gang, where all the characters except Ripley die in the opening credits. Obviously Ripley is a superhero now so she is ok. She finds a lifeboat from the Auriga has landed with a chestbursted guy inside and no sign of the alien. But Ripley now has a sixth sense which tells her the direction where the alien is hiding. Hilarity ensues.
Et voila, and we already have a scenario/concept way better than the one hinted at by Blomkamp. It's not hard.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 03, 2016, 08:48:22 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 03, 2016, 08:41:02 PM
I got it. As the main characters are walking through Paris, they get attacked by a gang, where all the characters except Ripley die in the opening credits. Obviously Ripley is a superhero now so she is ok. She finds a lifeboat from the Auriga has landed with a chestbursted guy inside and no sign of the alien. But Ripley now has a sixth sense which tells her the direction where the alien is hiding. Hilarity ensues.
Et voila, and we already have scenario/concept way better than the one hinted at by Blomkamp. It's not hard.
Thanks Man!
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 03, 2016, 08:48:22 PMEt voila, and we already have a scenario/concept way better than the one hinted at by Blomkamp. It's not hard.
The Alien Queen that boarded the Sulaco was NOT the Queen on LV-426 it was
Big Chap! Who after drifting alone near LV-426 for 50 years had evolved into a Queen!
But you ask where is the story? well you see a Starship Captain had family members on LV-426 and via a high class friend at WY had learned that Hadley's Hope fell off the Radar and so took his crew to LV-426 to check it out before boarding the Sulaco and finding the Queen.
It explains everything! Why the Egg was there, why the Sulaco blew up so badly (Due to unseen damage from the battles the Captain's crew had with the Queen that
nobody spotted), How the Queen got there.
DONE. All we have to do is send it to Fox so they can make it into a new Prequel novel and we'll become Gagallaioners!
EXCELLENT! I always wanted to be a 'Gagallaioner'.
Can't wait!
But seriously, it's an interesting take on what may have happened to the Alien after the first movie - Ripley faces it a 2nd time - but it's had plenty of time to fully develop into the Queen. Take eggmorphing into consideration, too. It could be a formative part of its development to its true adulthood.
I'm guessing this idea has been suggested before; but it's the first time I've heard of it. The original Big Chap is the Queen..? lol. Why not? Double lol.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 03, 2016, 04:38:46 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 03, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
It's technically Weaver's proposal. She's the one who doesn't want to reprise Ripley 8 and convinced him to go down the route of ignoring the two previous films.
And she's been the one person on the production side who's consistently praised and defended the both of them - and apparently still does.
Wait, wait...Sorry for being so dense, but you're saying that she doesn't want to play the character of Ripley 8 again and that she has no objections against retconning A3 and A:R, but at the same time she has always defended and praised A3 and A:R?
Kind of confusing.
We know Weaver's said she doesn't want to reprise the clone.
We know Blomkamp's said she was the one responsible for convincing him to ignore the third film, because before that, his story took account of - and was set after - it.
We also know Weaver has actively defended and praised the third and fourth films whenever she's been asked about them.
Therfore, the decision to ignore the third/fourth films should be labelled as Weaver's proposal, not his (he just liked her spin on it sufficiently to think it improved whatever he already had in mind). The one person involved in the production of all the original films, who has consistently defended every single one of them.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 04, 2016, 02:14:25 AM
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Sep 03, 2016, 04:38:46 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 03, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
It's technically Weaver's proposal. She's the one who doesn't want to reprise Ripley 8 and convinced him to go down the route of ignoring the two previous films.
And she's been the one person on the production side who's consistently praised and defended the both of them - and apparently still does.
Wait, wait...Sorry for being so dense, but you're saying that she doesn't want to play the character of Ripley 8 again and that she has no objections against retconning A3 and A:R, but at the same time she has always defended and praised A3 and A:R?
Kind of confusing.
We know Weaver's said she doesn't want to reprise the clone.
We know Blomkamp's said she was the one responsible for convincing him to ignore the third film, because before that, his story took account of - and was set after - it.
We also know Weaver has actively defended and praised the third and fourth films whenever she's been asked about them.
Therfore, the decision to ignore the third/fourth films should be labelled as Weaver's proposal, not his (he just liked her spin on it sufficiently to think it improved whatever he already had in mind). The one person involved in the production of all the original films, who has consistently defended every single one of them.
Well, that sucks. I've heard rumors before that Sigorney has a greedy streak but never took it that seriously, but reading this maybe there is some truth to it. I mean, A:R was not necessary as A3 was in fact
the perfect ending. Sure Ripley 8 is a new character, but at the same time she isn't - especially not to Weaver as she is making bank no matter what. Sigorney Weaver knows that there is a huge and zealous fan base and following of ALIENS, and she knows that the gaming industry loves anything that has to do with soldiers in space with futuristic weapons shooting up bug-like monsters in space, and it doesn't get better than ALIENS, right?
Like SM said, no one has gotten the green light to continue where A:R ended because FOX knows that A:R has bad rep and they don't dare to invest in it unless they know it will make big bucks worldwide. With an ALIENS-based sequel they know there is at least a solid fan base to cash in on as well as most of the gamers out there. But they also know that 30 years have passed and that many other franchises have taken over the torch Cameron once handed to them, especially in the video game industry, which means that the interest in a fan service ALIENS sequel might not attract as many people as it used to. That's why they're going with Prometheus, A:C (Alien: Covenant) and an A:C sequel to see what the response will be like.
Sigorney Weaver, of course, probably pushes this A5 idea that Blomkamp is working on as it guarantees her a big check, and if lucky it will spawn sequels on its own. I take it from a money standpoint and a career standpoint she believes in Blomkamp's sequel, but not so much when it comes to a sequel based on A3/A:R - I mean, it's been waiting there, in the water, for almost 20 years now, with no one daring to pick it up. However, if it turns out that A:C nullifies the concept and premise of A2, and we end up with a story taking place in the era of Ripley 8, I'm sure Sigorney will gladly accept the offer to play Ripley 8 as this is probably her last chance to reprise the Ripley character, with or without an 8 in the end.
I think you probably nailed it on the head there in many ways. Sigourney Weaver has been a major driver in many ways post-Aliens. She made some weird and dare I say creepy decisions. I mean I think she wanted that near rape scene in A3, and she wanted that Alien love scene in A:R is that not right? She was perverting the whole notion of the alien and ramping up the sexual aspects.
Now she sees this as a golden opportunity to cash in. It just so happens to coincide with my preferences for a sequel, and for many fans' preferences. If done right, it could be a huge win for the world of sci-fi.
Tbh, I always wanted an Alien movie set between 3 and Resurrection with new characters.
Quote from: Super Predator on Sep 05, 2016, 03:16:39 AM
Tbh, I always wanted an Alien movie set between 3 and Resurrection with new characters.
If it took account of the fourth film, nothing meaningful would occur. At that point, you might as well just set it after the fourth.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Sep 03, 2016, 05:42:46 PM
Lol if Weaver was in it for the paycheck she would not have turned down Whedon's Alien 5. His took place on Earth and she didn't want to go to Earth.
From what I remember that never even got completed due to the reception of Resurrection. Whedeon didn't care to continue.
Quote from: Scorpio on Sep 01, 2016, 04:38:59 AM
Alien 3 is an amazing, amazing film. Perfect end to the trilogy. Stunned that we got a film that good (not the theatrical cut.. which is a mess). Back in 1992.
And Alien Resurrection was just the icing on the cake. ;)
...my kind of people :)
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Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 03, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
It's technically Weaver's proposal. She's the one who doesn't want to reprise Ripley 8 and convinced him to go down the route of ignoring the two previous films.
And she's been the one person on the production side who's consistently praised and defended the both of them - and apparently still does.
...how did you came up with that??? It's been Blomkamp's fanboyism all along
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Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Sep 04, 2016, 10:02:21 PM
I think you probably nailed it on the head there in many ways. Sigourney Weaver has been a major driver in many ways post-Aliens. She made some weird and dare I say creepy decisions. I mean I think she wanted that near rape scene in A3, and she wanted that Alien love scene in A:R is that not right? She was perverting the whole notion of the alien and ramping up the sexual aspects.
You make a decent point but is it possible to pervert the notion of a face raping, murdering alien? ???
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 05, 2016, 07:59:32 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Sep 03, 2016, 05:42:46 PM
Lol if Weaver was in it for the paycheck she would not have turned down Whedon's Alien 5. His took place on Earth and she didn't want to go to Earth.
What I remember that never even got completed due to the reception of Resurrection. Whedeon didn't care to continue.
... everyone wanted to continue, the problem was the Earth setting. And Whedon is just a (talented) crybaby
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Everyone wanted to continue until the numbers came in below expectations.
Quote from: Yahzee on Sep 05, 2016, 11:17:28 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 03, 2016, 02:28:41 AM
It's technically Weaver's proposal. She's the one who doesn't want to reprise Ripley 8 and convinced him to go down the route of ignoring the two previous films.
...how did you came up with that??? It's been Blomkamp's fanboyism all along
Because Blomkamp said so.
Yeah, Blomkamp went on record saying it used to be different before Weaver spoke to him. Think Weaver may have also said something along those lines, but I know he did. She's definitely said she has no interest in reprising the cloned character.
I'd like to see Blumpkin's pre-Weaver ideas.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 09, 2016, 11:38:46 PM
Yeah, Blomkamp went on record saying it used to be different before Weaver spoke to him. Think Weaver may have also said something along those lines, but I know he did. She's definitely said she has no interest in reprising the cloned character.
...really, when did she ever said that? The only thing she said she had no interest was doing a movie on Earth. Where's the link to the interview you're all referring? Damn this fanboyish rumors...
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QuoteAlien: Resurrection - she was cloned because the company wanted the Alien that was within her. I like the idea of the Facehugger infecting the host with a type of cancer, and cancers do alter DNA. So a Xenomorph could be in a host's DNA. This is a good survival strategy if the host is some type of regenerative organism... constant Aliens bursting out of it. It also makes sense how the Chestburster is in the chest cavity and not in your oesophagus or lungs.
Cool idea! :D
Quote from: Yahzee on Sep 10, 2016, 12:01:40 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 09, 2016, 11:38:46 PM
Yeah, Blomkamp went on record saying it used to be different before Weaver spoke to him. Think Weaver may have also said something along those lines, but I know he did. She's definitely said she has no interest in reprising the cloned character.
...really, when did she ever said that? The only thing she said she had no interest was doing a movie on Earth. Where's the link to the interview you're all referring? Damn this fanboyish rumors...
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Feel free to have a check through the news archives before throwing digs at fellow community members or staff: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/02/25/neill-blomkamp-talks-alien/
"Over the years, I came up with a story for a film in that universe that I wanted to make. And then when I talked to her about her experience making those films and what she thought about Ripley and everything else, it informed and changed the film I wanted to make into something different.
It just sort of stuck with me. A year later, when post-production was winding down on Chappie, I started fleshing out the idea for a film that would contain Sigourney. Fox never knew. I just worked on it when I could. Before I knew it, I had this really awesome film with a lot of artwork and a lot of backstory. And then I didn't know whether I was going to make it or not. So I just kind of sat on it for a while."
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 12, 2016, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: Yahzee on Sep 10, 2016, 12:01:40 AM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Sep 09, 2016, 11:38:46 PM
Yeah, Blomkamp went on record saying it used to be different before Weaver spoke to him. Think Weaver may have also said something along those lines, but I know he did. She's definitely said she has no interest in reprising the cloned character.
...really, when did she ever said that? The only thing she said she had no interest was doing a movie on Earth. Where's the link to the interview you're all referring? Damn this fanboyish rumors...
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Feel free to have a check through the news archives before throwing digs at fellow community members or staff: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/02/25/neill-blomkamp-talks-alien/
"Over the years, I came up with a story for a film in that universe that I wanted to make. And then when I talked to her about her experience making those films and what she thought about Ripley and everything else, it informed and changed the film I wanted to make into something different.
It just sort of stuck with me. A year later, when post-production was winding down on Chappie, I started fleshing out the idea for a film that would contain Sigourney. Fox never knew. I just worked on it when I could. Before I knew it, I had this really awesome film with a lot of artwork and a lot of backstory. And then I didn't know whether I was going to make it or not. So I just kind of sat on it for a while."
Here's another quote from an IGN review where he straight-out states that his film was originally going to take Alien 3 into account. There was another one somewhere where he said that he never imagined Weaver would be interested in doing another Alien film. That the only reason he kept talking to her about Alien/s on the Chappie set was because he was interested in how Ridley and Jim created those films. I do recall reading something along the lines of what Xenomorphine said about Weaver no longer being interested in reprising her Ripley 8 character but unfortunately I can't remember where it was.
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Mar 04, 2015, 11:42:13 AM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/04/how-district-9-director-neill-blomkamp-got-the-alien-gig (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/03/04/how-district-9-director-neill-blomkamp-got-the-alien-gig)
QuoteMy apprehension with Alien was that I had never worked with someone else's material. And not even someone else – at this point it was like... I'm going to count Fincher in with the third one, even though the third one I don't like as much as the first two. But they're all three awesome filmmakers. So it's not about living up to it and being nervous about it, I just don't want other people to tell me what to do. Which is a different thing. 'Well we think in this film this should happen because it happened in that one.' That kind of scared me a little bit so then I was like 'I'm just not going to do it, I'm just going to put it out.' But then I spoke to Sigourney [Weaver]. And I love Sigourney and her wanting to execute the story that I wrote, and she thinks it's the right story for Ripley. So I was like 'Nah, I'm fully going to do this.'
I always thought that he meant all three filmmakers were awesome, not that he was going to count all three films.