Something similar to this, minus the exposed mid section. A full protective body suit.
http://icedestroyer.deviantart.com/art/PREDATOR-Phantom-176758027
Anyone into such a design? Or do you prefer the normal conservative use of armor?
I wouldn't mind actually, that'd be cool, especially for a military Predator or one hunting insanely dangerous or advanced prey.
I recall the Predator in South China Sea as literally wearing a full body suit, if not, he was definitely described as incredibly armoured.
Also, the Military Predators in Extinction seemed to wear full body armour called "Tactical Supremacy Armour".
Why not,i like new ideas to be in every Predator game or movie.
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Feb 13, 2016, 08:45:10 PM
Why not,i like new ideas to be in every Predator game or movie.
Exactly, new ideas when done well can help the Predator franchise grow.
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Feb 13, 2016, 08:54:43 PM
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Feb 13, 2016, 08:45:10 PM
Why not,i like new ideas to be in every Predator game or movie.
Exactly, new ideas when done well can help the Predator franchise grow.
True words said.
If it's actually serving a function, not just for aesthetics. Perhaps in an avp movie an acid resistant armor would make sense to fight xeno's in close range.
I wouldn't mind seeing something like that.
Though I have no problem with the way Predators are currently designed, but recently I have wondered why they don't wear more armor.
I suppose one reason is they full confidence to stay hidden, so it's not usually an issue at the front of their mind. Another idea I had is, Predator's like to purposely out themselves at a disadvantage with exposing their arms, legs, chest. To make the hunt more thrilling and challenging.
But with City Hunter taking 4-5 shotgun shells at close range, and surviving to fight on with ease. I guess the most logical explanation is they can pretty much tank crazy amounts of wounds.
That would be cool, especially since I liked Celtic and Scar's designs.
Reduced mobility is understandable, but please don't make them as bulky as they were in the film.
There are a few designs I've seen for full armour that look really good, and agreed that as long as it's not too bulky. But I doubt they'll put it in a movie. A game or comic version seems way more likely. Either way it'd be cool to see full armour in some official stuff.
No, I'm a purist and I want the old fashioned design.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
This is one of those things that could go incredably wrong if they mess it up.
It might work if the design is right. As long as they don't end up looking like bulky linebackers like in AVP.
It "Could" be cool though.
I always liked this pred in full armor but it has thesame problem as the one you posted. It guards everything but the most fragile part - abdomen. Predator blacksmiths are doing it wrong.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpre03.deviantart.net%2F4214%2Fth%2Fpre%2Fi%2F2011%2F288%2F1%2F8%2Fpredator_phantom_2_by_zhegesha-d4cx723.jpg&hash=49259916bcf681f8c04b6bc0924ae5145efc9ae6)
Quote from: Master on Feb 15, 2016, 07:30:17 AM
I always liked this pred in full armor but it has thesame problem as the one you posted. It guards everything but the most fragile part - abdomen. Predator blacksmiths are doing it wrong.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpre03.deviantart.net%2F4214%2Fth%2Fpre%2Fi%2F2011%2F288%2F1%2F8%2Fpredator_phantom_2_by_zhegesha-d4cx723.jpg&hash=49259916bcf681f8c04b6bc0924ae5145efc9ae6)
I love that picture as well!
That is a sweet pic, looks like he's riding on the original predator design lol.
I dont like the Crysis suit look but im fine with different armors.
Yeah I'd like to see a full body suit that better fits the aesthetics of the Predator culture.
I think the armor from AvP Extinction (the military Hydra and Blazer classes) looked like true armor, nearly impenetrable. I think we just need to see the creatures in the right circumstance for the extra armor to make sense.
Light armor represents minimal protection, maximum flexibility and agility. Heavy is the opposite. I would consider the armor in the AVP films to be more of a medium style, as they did some impressive jumps that I think they would have had trouble had they been wearing a full body suit.
The pictures posted are really nice and I would love to see feature in a film, regardless of body style (fit vs. bulky).
Sacrificing agility for some added protection. And this is hunter-like, how?
Nope, I don't like the idea of fully armored preds. Predators are hunters and hunters don't go hunting with full bodied armor. Only time I'll be OK with preds wearing full armor is if they're getting ready for a battle but that's it. Predators are agile hunters not bulky brutes like in avp.
Ehh, here we go again. When you go against super agresive, accid bleeding nightmare child, lack armour is stupid, not effective.
Predators aren't hunting aliens in this movie, they'll be hunting humans so bulky armor makes no sense for a hunter.
Quote from: Predboy on Feb 29, 2016, 07:59:39 PM
Predators aren't hunting aliens in this movie, they'll be hunting humans so bulky armor makes no sense for a hunter.
Mybe not only humans. I like variety in designs.
Quote from: skull-splitter on Feb 27, 2016, 06:52:01 PM
Sacrificing agility for some added protection. And this is hunter-like, how?
What makes think that just because a Predator is fully armored, it would be slow? The materials could be lightweight, yet super protective. It's not like they're using Earth materials for armor.
Quote from: Master on Feb 29, 2016, 08:43:28 PM
Mybe not only humans. I like variety in designs.
Something that can be easily done, and has already been done with the little armor, agile look the predators always had. The two predators from the first two movies look completely different in their own unique ways, but still keep the same agile feel with the light armor.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 13, 2016, 08:00:51 PM
Something similar to this, minus the exposed mid section. A full protective body suit.
http://icedestroyer.deviantart.com/art/PREDATOR-Phantom-176758027
Anyone into such a design? Or do you prefer the normal conservative use of armor?
I don't like it, i like the style of Alien Skin/Texture and parts of armor, i just think it's visually more interesting.
Whenever i think of full Body armor i think of the horrible, clumsy tanks we got in AvP, and the thing in the link looks more like RoboCop than a Predator.
New armor, yes, not more.
Quote from: Master on Feb 29, 2016, 04:05:42 PM
Ehh, here we go again. When you go against super agresive, accid bleeding nightmare child, lack armour is stupid, not effective.
Totally right, but as we all know, Predators are not all about effectivness.
When you go against highly trained, super armed soldiers that can blast your ass through the jungle you might think about full body armor too, just saying. In many regards, killing an armed soldier is actually more of a skill than killing an Alien from the distance.
Yeah Johnny but soldiers are no match for Pred in close combat. Aliens are. Pred have effective camouflage against humans. Aliens can locate them just fine. Also AvP preds had no plasmacasters with them while going against most deadly creature. Armour was justified.
Quote from: Master on Mar 01, 2016, 03:38:09 PM
Yeah Johnny but soldiers are no match for Pred in close combat. Aliens are. Pred have effective camouflage against humans. Aliens can locate them just fine. Also AvP preds had no plasmacasters with them while going against most deadly creature. Armour was justified.
What I would have liked to see is acid-proof weapons. After hunting them for years, Predators must have found a way to protect their gear. I realize in the first film we would be reminded of the acidic blood potency but in AVPR Wolf uses his wrist blades on several Xenos with no damage but I believe this was more a case of convenience or ignorance as the acid is very inconsistent.
TBH I like weapons are not accid proof. It adds to danger of Alien hunting.
It also doesn't seem to harm their spears or the shurikens in the first film. It could have done with being a bit more consistent.
That really bothered me in the AvP's, the acid only worked when it was convenient.
They make a acid proof spear but not the net gun or wrist blades?
Quote from: 420Buddy on Mar 02, 2016, 09:49:49 PM
That really bothered me in the AvP's, the acid only worked when it was convenient.
They make a acid proof spear but not the net gun or wrist blades?
Correct. Oh well, the movies are what they are. Perhaps if we get another AvP film in the near future it will be a bit more consistent. And I wouldn't mind if they have a mix of Predator armor types and body types too. The AvP2 PC game featured several different size Predators, yet nearly all the creatures in the movies were basically the same.
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 02, 2016, 01:56:19 AM
What I would have liked to see is acid-proof weapons. After hunting them for years, Predators must have found a way to protect their gear. I realize in the first film we would be reminded of the acidic blood potency but in AVPR Wolf uses his wrist blades on several Xenos with no damage but I believe this was more a case of convenience or ignorance as the acid is very inconsistent.
When the Strauses were on the forum, I remember asking them if they were going to have Wolf equipped with acid resistant weaponry. They did say that he was coming down to Earth to handle the situation and that he was coming prepared.
Also, it doesn't take much to explain the non-acid resistant weapons. It's likely that the acid resistant weapons are given to only the proven Predators. The non resistant armor and weapons are probably a means of handicapping the Predators in the pyramid. All to make the hunt more difficult and challenging until they prove themselves.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 03, 2016, 12:47:42 AM
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 02, 2016, 01:56:19 AM
What I would have liked to see is acid-proof weapons. After hunting them for years, Predators must have found a way to protect their gear. I realize in the first film we would be reminded of the acidic blood potency but in AVPR Wolf uses his wrist blades on several Xenos with no damage but I believe this was more a case of convenience or ignorance as the acid is very inconsistent.
When the Strauses were on the forum, I remember asking them if they were going to have Wolf equipped with acid resistant weaponry. They did say that he was coming down to Earth to handle the situation and that he was coming prepared.
Also, it doesn't take much to explain the non-acid resistant weapons. It's likely that the acid resistant weapons are given to only the proven Predators. The non resistant armor and weapons are probably a means of handicapping the Predators in the pyramid. All to make the hunt more difficult and challenging until they prove themselves.
So they were ambiguous? Figures. I do wonder if they knew that the movie was junky or that it was going to be a flop while they were making it.
This is true, but I would love for it to be mentioned somehow. Whether in dialogue, narrative, or a scene showing the difference. That way, it's definitively spelled out.
Quote from: 420Buddy on Mar 02, 2016, 09:49:49 PM
That really bothered me in the AvP's, the acid only worked when it was convenient.
They make a acid proof spear but not the net gun or wrist blades?
Yes...the spear, dagger, and shuriken were all acid proof
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 03, 2016, 12:47:42 AM
Also, it doesn't take much to explain the non-acid resistant weapons. It's likely that the acid resistant weapons are given to only the proven Predators. The non resistant armor and weapons are probably a means of handicapping the Predators in the pyramid. All to make the hunt more difficult and challenging until they prove themselves.
I could agree and rationalize that - if all the kit the Predators had on them in AvP weren't acid resistant. Some were, some weren't. Just inconsistent.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 03, 2016, 08:44:19 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 03, 2016, 12:47:42 AM
Also, it doesn't take much to explain the non-acid resistant weapons. It's likely that the acid resistant weapons are given to only the proven Predators. The non resistant armor and weapons are probably a means of handicapping the Predators in the pyramid. All to make the hunt more difficult and challenging until they prove themselves.
I could agree and rationalize that - if all the kit the Predators had on them in AvP weren't acid resistant. Some were, some weren't. Just inconsistent.
Agreed. Would have been much happier with more consistency. Or an explanatory scene showing there to be a real difference.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 13, 2016, 08:00:51 PM
Something similar to this, minus the exposed mid section. A full protective body suit.
http://icedestroyer.deviantart.com/art/PREDATOR-Phantom-176758027
Anyone into such a design? Or do you prefer the normal conservative use of armor?
That specific design might be OK, if it wasn't for the bizarrely exposed piece at the front. It's like putting up a sign with 'SHOOT HERE!' :)
If something is set in the future, then yes, it makes sense for their armour to have evolved, too. Technically, I could survive a lot of knife wounds to my body, too, but there's no sense in risking them if I can help it.
Well in the AVP film it made sense to protect their bodies more from the acid, since none of them would had been keen on losing an arm or leg. I think that Wolf Predator got burned bad in the second AVP film by the acid blood, didnt he?
Wolf was never hurt by the acid in the second movie.
He came into the film with a badly acid burned face. Though that was added later with CG IIRC.
His burned face was part of sculpture. He had it all the time. But when he stabs Predalien in the chin, whole bucket of accid blood covers his arm with no effect what so ever .
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/20071202_02.jpg)
Fair enough. I did not recall correctly after all. :laugh:
Ah, it was just the eye that was altered in post.
QuoteTo add a visual clue of the Predator's past fights with Aliens, the left side of its face is plagued by a considerable acid burn, which has almost completely consumed the creature's upper left mandible, and blinded its left eye (which was re-colored in post-production).
http://monsterlegacy.net/2014/01/19/predator-metamorphosis-part-iv-aliens-vs-predator-requiem/
Unfortunately the acid is only ever as strong as the director needs it to be lol. If everything went off the first movie, the acid should be crazy strong.
It seems to me the strength of the acid has been a lil different in every film, comic, and game. Still the AvP films are the worst offenders because they are so inconsistent with it scene to scene.
Quote from: 420Buddy on Mar 14, 2016, 03:13:47 PM
Unfortunately the acid is only ever as strong as the director needs it to be lol. If everything went off the first movie, the acid should be crazy strong.
It seems to me the strength of the acid has been a lil different in every film, comic, and game. Still the AvP films are the worst offenders because they are so inconsistent with it scene to scene.
No kidding. I suppose one could argue that they have different blood types like humans? It's a stretch and I don't buy it myself but...
I definitely wouldn't mind seeing a full body armored Predator, nothing too over the top, maybe something along the lines of this.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg13.deviantart.net%2F9520%2Fi%2F2011%2F040%2Fc%2Fa%2Ftwo_warriors_back_to_back_by_axperlazy1-d3964qg.jpg&hash=96de535881922814ce17c39ae2e1e6b1195d3911)
What about armor that could expand.
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Something like this?
(https://sequelsprequels.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/stargate_by_lefurieuxroidesmers.gif)
I wouldn't mind, but it needs to be handled properly. Some of the suggestions here sofar look very good.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 05, 2016, 01:01:57 PM
Something like this?
https://sequelsprequels.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/stargate_by_lefurieuxroidesmers.gif
Something along that line . If done right could be cool.
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Quote from: Kaltes on Jun 03, 2016, 08:30:35 PM
I definitely wouldn't mind seeing a full body armored Predator, nothing too over the top, maybe something along the lines of this.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg13.deviantart.net%2F9520%2Fi%2F2011%2F040%2Fc%2Fa%2Ftwo_warriors_back_to_back_by_axperlazy1-d3964qg.jpg&hash=96de535881922814ce17c39ae2e1e6b1195d3911)
That`s the first Predator full-bod armour that actually protects abdomen! Good job, though the mask is weak.
Quote from: Kaltes on Jun 03, 2016, 08:30:35 PM
I definitely wouldn't mind seeing a full body armored Predator, nothing too over the top, maybe something along the lines of this.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg13.deviantart.net%2F9520%2Fi%2F2011%2F040%2Fc%2Fa%2Ftwo_warriors_back_to_back_by_axperlazy1-d3964qg.jpg&hash=96de535881922814ce17c39ae2e1e6b1195d3911)
f**k, that's awesome. Yes, I definitely want to see something like this.
They better don't do anything like this :-\
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jun 06, 2016, 12:41:13 PM
They better don't do anything like this :-\
Agreed, i don't like it as well. They can update the design and have fun with it, just don't turn him into RoboCop.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Jun 06, 2016, 12:51:22 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Jun 06, 2016, 12:41:13 PM
They better don't do anything like this :-\
Agreed, i don't like it as well. They can update the design and have fun with it, just don't turn him into RoboCop.
The original design is what made the predator a worldwide icon, they should respect that and make only subtle changes, like Stan did
in P2.
Changes between p1 and p2 aren't subtle. They are quite major. I much prefere trying new designs then making cheap knock offs like Classic from Ps.
Quote from: Master on Jun 06, 2016, 05:38:21 PM
Changes between p1 and p2 aren't subtle. They are quite major. I much prefere trying new designs then making cheap knock offs like Classic from Ps.
I would use the word major If I was talking about AVP, but not for P2.
Really, it makes no sense for the Predators to not fully cover themselves. Unless they want to put themselves at a disadvantage for the thrill of the hunt. I think fully body armor is an innovation in the right direction. We've had 30 years of the pseudo advanced jungle armor, time to change it up.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 06, 2016, 11:53:25 PM
Really, it makes no sense for the Predators to not fully cover themselves. Unless they want to put themselves at a disadvantage for the thrill of the hunt. I think fully body armor is an innovation in the right direction. We've had 30 years of the pseudo advanced jungle armor, time to change it up.
Why are you so sure that they use their most advanced and efficient tech yet ? They're here for sport after all.
More body armor = more CGI (unless we want the fat AVP Predators to return). So no thanks.
I like the lean, acrobatic look, so minimal armor is where I'd like to see it go. I can't imagine something in full armor swooping from tree branch to tree branch like Anytime. And the idea of a hunter in full armor seems a bit a bit unnecessary. The thrill of the hunt should be important here.
Quote from: Keith on Jun 07, 2016, 02:38:08 AM
More body armor = more CGI (unless we want the fat AVP Predators to return). So no thanks.
I'm pretty sure they can make a practical effect form fitting armored suit for the Predator.
Quote from: Master on Jun 06, 2016, 05:38:21 PM
Changes between p1 and p2 aren't subtle. They are quite major. I much prefere trying new designs then making cheap knock offs like Classic from Ps.
Whilst I do really enjoyed Predators, I do agree with P1 and P2 not being subtle changes and to avoid yet another revisit to the P1 design. We don't need another film that recalls back to the original again. Everyone complained about the few bits in Predators and people are asking for it again.
Quote from: Keith on Jun 07, 2016, 02:38:08 AM
More body armor = more CGI (unless we want the fat AVP Predators to return). So no thanks.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 07, 2016, 03:50:03 AM
I'm pretty sure they can make a practical effect form fitting armored suit for the Predator.
As Shuriken says. There's nothing about full body armour that would remotely equate to needing CGI.
Whatever approach they do take, as long as it actually looks good, I'm happy. :)
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 07, 2016, 03:50:03 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jun 07, 2016, 02:38:08 AM
More body armor = more CGI (unless we want the fat AVP Predators to return). So no thanks.
I'm pretty sure they can make a practical effect form fitting armored suit for the Predator.
Regardless, full body armor on a Predator would look stupid.
Quote from: Keith on Jun 07, 2016, 02:38:08 AM
More body armor = more CGI (unless we want the fat AVP Predators to return). So no thanks.
You got that signed and sealed.
A FB game name Soldiers INc AVP their content art predator design I'm think is cool.
(https://scontent-kul1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12234858_920683671358255_2615142066454269613_n.jpg?oh=dadc914e1e5173a2798e3b9947084157&oe=57C3B475)
Something like that would look cool if realized on the big screen.
Quote from: Keith on Jun 08, 2016, 12:09:11 AM
Something like that would look cool if realized on the big screen.
they should stop putting stuffs on the upper side of the foot.
Quote from: Keith on Jun 07, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 07, 2016, 03:50:03 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jun 07, 2016, 02:38:08 AM
More body armor = more CGI (unless we want the fat AVP Predators to return). So no thanks.
I'm pretty sure they can make a practical effect form fitting armored suit for the Predator.
Regardless, full body armor on a Predator would look stupid.
Says you, the drawings posted make it work.
I'm ok with the Predator being in full body armor but I mean, damn... that is going to be a very long movie. Well over 3 hours long. I've come to this conclusion because a predator movie is basically a predator that starts off with tons of armor and tech and then slows stripes it away until the end; where it's basically a lioncloth throw down. So more armor equals more movie. :P
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 08, 2016, 01:56:42 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jun 07, 2016, 12:42:24 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Jun 07, 2016, 03:50:03 AM
Quote from: Keith on Jun 07, 2016, 02:38:08 AM
More body armor = more CGI (unless we want the fat AVP Predators to return). So no thanks.
I'm pretty sure they can make a practical effect form fitting armored suit for the Predator.
Regardless, full body armor on a Predator would look stupid.
Says you, the drawings posted make it work.
A fully armored pred goes against the spirit, if you can't even wound him what's the point of taking some risks?
Unless in Shane movie there is no hunt, who knows ...
Reading Predator: South China Sea has actually made me want to see a fully armored Predator on screen even more now.