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please read my post, so that you understand where I am coming from, before voting

Hello, I'm new to this message board, actually, I'm new to message boards in general, I read IMDB a bit, but this is the first time I have ever joined one, read this was a good place on imdb, so I'm pretty new to the scene, and apologise if this has been discussed before.

first off, I would like to say I was a huge Alien and predator fan before AVP came out, never read the comis or played the games, or anything extra, I was strictly a film fan, liked the first predator a lot, thought the second was average, and I really enjoy the first 3 alien films, love Aliens and Alien the most, 3rd was good, A:R sucked.

But when imagining the match up between these two species I always thought they would be pretty evenly matched, for whatever reason, however they were balanced, I just thought they would be pretty balanced, no matter how.

And I watch AVP, and I just couldn't believe what I was watching. First of all, it was disrespectful to each creature in their own right, aliens on earth, fast gestation, bulky predators, super sci-fi armor, weapons, and ship. But what shocked me the most was how it showed the predator to be so superior to the aliens.

I mean, I figured each species would have advantages in a battle, but AVP showed that predators are basically completely dominant to Aliens.

I have seen people raise issues like Grid taking out two predators in the span of 5 minutes, of course when you pitch it like that, it sounds like aliens are badass, but the way it was executed...it just felt like an insult to my assumptions of how aliens compared to predators.

Grid killed the first predator while it was turned around, focussing on killing a human, ready to strike, Grid simply snuck up on that predator with its tail, and stabbed it, then lifted it up, and mouth struck its brains out.

That doesn't show aliens are superior to me, it shows aliens have very strong tails, that they hide, and strike when the predators are distracted, like thats the only way they can take out a predator

Then in that fight, I saw nothing but Grid getting trashed the whole time, every time it felt like Grid was getting the advantage on that predator, the predator countered and gained the advantage every time,

Grid pounced on the predator, and slammed it through what looked a bit like a stone tablet or table, and had it pinned, but it seemed like as soon as the predator recovered from the knock, it easily overturned Grid, but an aliens body type doesnt allow it to be pinned flat on its back, the tubes sticking out of its upper back, and the tail stickin out of its lower back, prevent this, so Grid overturned that predator again, and tried several times to lunge in and mouth strike the predator, but almost every time, it was either dodged by the speed of the predator, or Grid's lunge down was stopped dead in its tracks by the power in just one of the predator's arms. Soon after that, using one leg, the predator sends Grid flying through the air with the power of one leg, and it lunges it was such force that Grid slams through a ston pillar.

The predator quickly gets to its feet, while Grid writhes on the ground in pain for a moment before getting up, then uses one of its few advantages, its tail, to trip the predator, it then tries to stab the predator with its tail, but sure enough, the predator reacts quick enough to dodge it lightning fast, cuts Grid's tail off, tackles it, Grid doesn't even have the strength to slow the predator down, and instead gets slammed into another stone pillar so hard it buckles. Then the predator picks Grid up by one tail, spins it around, and sends it flying.

Now this is the only time the alien gains any sort of real advantage(thank God), it uses its acid blood to melt the predators armor, good, but then it hides, because apparently, thats the only way aliens can gain advantages on predators, hide, and try and wait for a moment to strike, that doesnt sound balanced to me.

And even when it gets its shot, and attempts a pounce, the predator nets it, and basically has the win in the bag, and the only reason Grid is able to break out of the net, tackle it and kill it is because it was so damn cocky and took to long to kill Grid.

The alien pretty much got its ass kicked that whole fight, only to 'win' by what is quite literally a fluke, and never really gaining a good advantage, except when it hides from the predator, instead of fighting it.

I would have never thought a fight would be so one sided, a predator would be so superior, and an alien would be so dominated as it was in that fight.

Then we move on to the next predator, a facehugger, which I know from alien films to be super faced, its on you before you know its there, attempts to hug a predator, and not only does he see it coming, but reacts quick enough to whip out its shuriken, throw it, and slice the hugger in half, then an alien sneaks up on it without making a sound and the predator has good enough senses or whatever to know its there, and again, demonstrating lighting fast predator moves, delivers a death blow before that alien ever even knew what hit it.

I never would have guessed predators could react and move so fast in relation to aliens, and later that predator does get fachugged, but again, its when it is just finishing blooding itself, and like the first predator, distracted, the alien caught it off guard.

again, giving me the impression that aliens need to hide and attack predators when they are distracted to kill them, because if not, the predators are so superior, fast, and strong, that they would kill the alien.

the next time we see aliens encounter the predator is after its got its shoulder gun back, the gunes that, I think I should note, the predators would have all had much earlier, before they ever encountered aliens had the humans not taken them, had those predators had their guns when they were supposed to, the aliens would have never stood a chance, the humans gave the aliens the only fighting chance they could have by taking those guns.

But the predator gets its gun back, and what do you know, it targets and fires fast enough for not one of many aliens to even get close to it, it takes them out without moving an inch, and again, the aliens end up surviving by running away.

that ticks me off, like aliens have no fighting chance no matter what.

a predator later encounters a chestburster, which is also quite fast, and again, the predator is shown to be fast enough to catch a chestburster in mid air, and snaps its neck with its thumb, I mean damn, the predators are quite strong, CBs probably have weak bone structures, but with just the power in one thumb to break its neck, I wouldn't have guessed predators were that strong, but they are.

Then after the predator uses its bomb it made to blow up all of the aliens, we see him and the chick at the snow sled thing, and he is looking at whatever she is doing, and an alien pounces on him, impales him through the shoulder, and is about to kill him when the chick saves its life.

this again, just shows aliens only chance it to sneak up on distracted predators, that shows them as weak, inferior creatures.

and obviously from the films we can see predators are smarter then aliens, because they each make their own weapons to use when fighting, and I think that because they have a higher intelligence, it gives them ability to train and use their weapons with skill, where aliens cannot.

thats not the problem, the problem is that AVP showed predators are stronger, in some cases faster, or able to react lightning fast, and overall better then aliens, it showed that aliens only hope to kill a predator is to attack it from behind when its distracted, because in any other encounter, a predator would win.

the only time aliens killed predators in AVP was either by attacking it from behind while they were distracted, or through fluke, thats the only reason Grid was able to win its fight, it had been beaten, netted, Grid was done, and through fluke, the predator took too long, and Grid managed to get the time it needed to break free and kill the predator.

I don't think thats right at all, the species I always thought were supposed to be evenly matched, having different advantages over eachother.

and in this new film, AVP-R, it looks like its going to be more of the same stuff, a predator demolishing alien after alien, with ease, using its advanced weaponry it made, its strength, speed, fighting skill and intelligence to take out alien after alien with ease, hell, it even shows two aliens being held back at the same time by a single predator, out of reach of mouth strike, and the aliens are in so much pain from being choked, they aren't even thinking to try and use their tails, they are just like victims, trying to get the predators hands offf of their throats.

I mean, I didn't expect predators to be superior in practically every way to aliens before I saw AVP, but I guess I can live with it, I'm assuming thats the way it is, my question though is

Why are the predators superior to Aliens? do they have more fans, do all of the fans pretty much prefer predator? so the filmmakers appeal to general consensus with the films? or is this just the way it is, and I was sort of off base with my assumptions of them being evenly matched? and its always been that aliens only advantages against a predator are attacking from behind when its distracted, or using multiple numbers when it doesnt have a shoulder cannon?

I'm just curious, please don't flame me or anything, I just want to know why the predators are superior to aliens in pretty much every way, I just figured they would be more even.

exept their note supiour to them in everyway into the movies....

Well, I already wrote up a lengthy and detailed response to this sort of question, so I'll just direct you to it first: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=4670.msg86875#msg86875

Long story short, predators are comparable to xenomorphs in physical strength, but they tip the scales with intelligence and technology.

to major alan

these films sure as hell don't show the two to be equal! I mean, its shown in both films that predators are like superior in every way, I never thought that was right, but how can anyone sya the films are wrong, I was hoping the predators weren't completely superior, but equel to aliens, and instead, we see frikkin teenagers, TEENAGED preds taking out aliens easy, and completley dominating them, its not fair.

I never read comics or played games, so I don't know how its shown there, but I am simply wondering why the predators are superior, I mean, I guess I'll live with it if thats just the way it is, although I still don't really like it, I am just wondering if there is some sort of reason.

but I guess according to those two people who have voted, its just common knowledge, so I guess thats how its always been? is that what most think?

Gill just plain wasn't paying attention. Celtic was struggling that whole fight to find a way to kill Grid and failed. Had he not gotten cocky at the last moment, he might have succeeded, but he took his sweet time and got killed. Scar outwitted one xenomorph for a cheapshot kill, had quick reflexes to kill a hugger (but got face raped by one anyway), and then he killed a few drones from a distance with long range weapon. Frankly, they were all pathetic examples that were lucky to survive as long as they did.

Point is...how is this news to you? Stealth and sneak attacks are how the aliens have always fought. Surprise is their greatest weapon. That's how they tore apart a whole squad of armed marines, and that's their best bet for killing predators. Predators are better in pitched combat than a xenomorph, but the xenomorphs are like space ninjas on crack.

Answer C. they arent

Ok, I read that, James Ocanis and I mean, the way AVP showed it, even if a predator had no weapons, it still has much quicker reactions and is much stronger then an alien, and those are teenagers fighting them in AVP, predators that are supposed to have never faced aliens before, and they faired that well. and don't predators make their own weapons using their intelligence, I mean, not all of their stuff is exactly the same, so how are they, like, cheating? and even if they are, AVP still showed them to be stronger, and able to react and strike quicker, then an alien, so it seems like even a naked predator would be able to take out an alien, or at least thats the way AVP showed it.

AVP showed that the only time an alien can kill, or get into the position to kill a predator, is when it attacks from behind while distracted, it showed in a one on one fight, a predator can dodge the tails, and use its strength, and its weapons it made, and pretty much destroy an alien, Grid only won through a fluke.

and I know that first predator was distracted and turned away, that why the alien killed it, and celtic, the second predator, was dominating Grid the whole fight, I mean, it was kicking it, and tossing it everywhere, countering Grid's every move, how is that struggling, he only failed at the last minute, giving Grid the win by fluke.

the 3rd predator was able to realise an alien was behind him without making a sound, that at least speaks for a predator's superior senses and reaction time, as well as the facehugger kill, and he killed some aliens from a distance with a gun he was supposed to have from the start, I think they all showed aliens to be crap, and predators superior.

I know aliens attack with stealth, but I would have hoped they could fight a predator and win, or else they look like weaklings.

and Chaotic-Strike, how can you say predators aren't superior, I mean, its all right there in AVP, the aliens only advantage against even a teenaged predator that has never faced an alien before, is sneaking up, and attacking from behind when its not looking. Nothing contrary to this was shown in the film, predators were shown stronger, and reacted and struck quicker, it was pretty ridiculous, but you can't argue with the movie

I'm not here to debate whether aliens are better or not, because there is not much to debate is there? it has been shown in avp that predators are superior, vastly, to aliens, I don't like that, I don't like that an alien's only chance to kill a predator is to attack it from behind while its distracted, or to get lucky and win by fluke, but I can't argue with the movie.

I made this thread to ask why are the predators shown this way in the films? I mean, have predators just always been considered better or is it because they have more fans or something?

Quote from: Keep Rockin on Sep 11, 2007, 02:11:15 AM
and Chaotic-Strike, how can you say predators aren't superior

Because im to busy laughing at your post

I think the real answer to your question is that Paul WS Anderson can't direct worth a shit. That fight scene *coughwrestlingmatchcough* was a total disgrace. And the way Scar was casually slicing an alien's face off was not funny. It was just stupid.

So yeah, blame the movie, not the creatures. Predators are strong, yes, but you're right; they shouldn't be that good unarmed against an alien.

but aren't films canon or whatever? even if the reasons for the predators being superior is because of the filmmakers, doesn't it still mean that once its shown in a film, its fact?

Any species that has language and develops technology is always going to be superior to species that do not. Aliens do seem to have the ability to communicate, but as far as has been seen they don't have technological abilities.

"Canon" is a term created by neurotic fanboys who can't stand a difference of opinion. Pay it no heed.

I think we're all better off just ignoring that last movie.

Kinda hard when it's the only point of reference.

Well then, I guess it's a good thing that we're having a new point of reference coming to us in December.

First of all, there are more Alien fans than Predator fans.  Way more.  There were 4 Alien movies, two of them are on IMDB's Top 250 list.  The Alien movies all made more money than the Predator films, of which there were only 2, and 1 of them bombed.

Secondly, Predators aren't superior because they require weapons and armor to fight.  Aliens need neither, they're living biological weapons who are completely self-reliant.  Like Ash said in Alien, the xenomorph is the perfect survivor/killer. 

Man, is this guy serious?, talk about the worst case of 'the grass is always greener...' or the 'poor me's' that I have ever seen

I mean, I guess his argument is somewhat valid, you could look at it from that POV, but I think its quite off base, and if AVP is ignored by AVP-R you won't have to worry about 'the predators being so superior' any more.

now I use the term canon, simply because I don't think video games(where you can play as either species and dominate the other) and comics should be used as ground rules for what the films can and can't do.

Well yeah, the video games, by their very nature, makes them poor source material for a movie. (Even if I do love the shit out of AvP2) And the comics...let's not go there.

As for the thing about predators and their technology, that's absolutely correct. A predator can kill xenomorphs if he has his gear, but if you were to strip him down to his skivvies and put him in an xenomorph infestation, he's going to become a facehugger's bitch before long.

Quote from: •ONEYE• on Sep 11, 2007, 02:19:05 AM
Any species that has language and develops technology is always going to be superior to species that do not. Aliens do seem to have the ability to communicate, but as far as has been seen they don't have technological abilities.

Aliens are kind of analogous to viruses.  Even with all our tech, we cannot ever wipe them out - they keep evolving and reproducing.  Their numbers are superior and really it is a constant war to stop them killing all of us.

Indeed. That's another strength of theirs. You can kill individual xenomorphs by the dozen, but apart from nuking the site from orbit, it's nearly impossible to stop the critters completely.

 :)  lots of new people on here :)  hi!  :P

yeah, and thats another one of their advantages over a predator each species has advantages and disadvantages, but I think this guy is a fan who seems like he has had his dreams crushed by AVP, and just can't see things any other way then the way he see them

feel kinda bad for the guy

havnt we all been there.. this film seems like the light at the end of the tunnel. :'(

I think they are superior because they are intelligent, advanced in technology and alot like humans. Like us they can contain almost any beast. 

Predators are not "superior". They have the advantage in combat against individual xenomorphs, but fighting alone is not the only strength of those acid-blooded nightmares.

And never think you can contain them. That's a suicidal mistake that humans have made more than once. You have to exterminate them.

Quote from: Keep Rockin on Sep 11, 2007, 01:49:15 AM
to major alan

we see frikkin teenagers, TEENAGED preds taking out aliens easy, and completley dominating them, its not fair.

yyeeaaahh. first off the preds never dominated anything in that movie.

second thiese "frikkin teenagers" aboviously had to train for many years with all their gadgets to fight these aliens that have only been alive for about what? an hour? and THAT was a challenge for them

Quote from: James OCanis on Sep 11, 2007, 02:47:14 AM
Predators are not "superior". They have the advantage in combat against individual xenomorphs, but fighting alone is not the only strength of those acid-blooded nightmares.

And never think you can contain them. That's a suicidal mistake that humans have made more than once. You have to exterminate them.

They have been contained before. Alien Ressurection. May not have went well but it happened. Predators seem to have done it well to have them for their bloodings. Didn't you see the Queen chained in AvP?

Indeed, but in both examples, the aliens eventually broke free and caused all kinds of death and suffering. The comparison of the xenomorphs to a virus was a good one. They spred rapidly and unpredictably at the expense of life around them until they have nothing left to feed on, at which time they go dormant until things replinish.

Predators are hunters. They are good at killing individual creatures. Xenomorphs are a cosmic plague. They'll kill everything.

Quote from: Chaotic-Strike on Sep 11, 2007, 02:01:04 AM
Answer C. they arent

i agree

The Aliens are stuck on whatever platform (ship) or planet they are on. The only way they can leave their location is by being stowaways. Predators will always have an advantage since they can:

1. Always nuke the Aliens from orbit if they have overrun the planet.

2. Destroy the ship they are on.

For me, it is why the Predators will always come out ahead of the Aliens. The only thing that the Aliens have in their favor is numbers. It's all they have, it's their strength and their weakness.

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It is answer C.

I can see were your coming from but the two are very different kind of species.
Yes the Preds are smarter and less accident prone than a xeno, but an alien has intellegence and wit.  So they aare very different and on different levels.

As a huge Predator fan, I would take it over the Aliens anyday, but as all the people here will tell you, the Alien Legacy has a bigger following than Predator.

But the Predator will kick Alien ass anyday of the week.

Quote from: superunknown on Sep 11, 2007, 02:24:55 AM
First of all, there are more Alien fans than Predator fans.  Way more.  There were 4 Alien movies, two of them are on IMDB's Top 250 list.  The Alien movies all made more money than the Predator films, of which there were only 2, and 1 of them bombed.

Secondly, Predators aren't superior because they require weapons and armor to fight.  Aliens need neither, they're living biological weapons who are completely self-reliant.  Like Ash said in Alien, the xenomorph is the perfect survivor/killer. 

Unfortinately AVP2 debunks that.  :-\

I will wait though, for my AVP movie that only has one Alien and one Predator. Giger's Alien of course.

Quote from: James OCanis on Sep 11, 2007, 03:02:46 AM
Indeed, but in both examples, the aliens eventually broke free and caused all kinds of death and suffering. The comparison of the xenomorphs to a virus was a good one. They spred rapidly and unpredictably at the expense of life around them until they have nothing left to feed on, at which time they go dormant until things replinish.

Predators are hunters. They are good at killing individual creatures. Xenomorphs are a cosmic plague. They'll kill everything.

Of course they broke out. If they didn't it would make the movie very boring.  :D lol

I still think they can contain them if its done right. Wouldn't you think humans are superior to everything on this planet? Because of our intellegence we could contain anything and kill it if we want to. Thats what makes us superior. If Aliens exsisted we could do the same if we were very carefull. They are no more than beast. Predators are superior to us because they are just like us in strength a technology but ten times more in each catagory. Thats just my thoughts. I know you think differently.

There's one simple answer to this thread. Pred's kick ass!

QuoteI will wait though, for my AVP movie that only has one Alien and one Predator. Giger's Alien of course.

Never gonna happen. Maybe in a book or a comic though.

QuoteThere's one simple answer to this thread. Pred's kick ass!

And the Aliens tail-rape ass and pull intestines out.

QuoteThey are no more than beast.

I think they are - our shadow and all the dangers of the Universe personified. Humans can't contain them or wipe them out because death is immortal, if you get what I say. But that's only  if you care about meanings - otherwise, feel free to turn Lovecraftian beasts into animals.

I'm amazed. Three pages of the topic and no flame yet.

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I will wait though, for my AVP movie that only has one Alien and one Predator. Giger's Alien of course.

Never gonna happen. Maybe in a book or a comic though.

Why not? It would make it fair, wouldn't piss on either franchise and would stay true to original films.

You didn't really give me any reasoning for your response.

QuoteWhy not? It would make it fair, wouldn't piss on either franchise and would stay true to original films.

You didn't really give me any reasoning for your response.

Because no one really cares about the originals anymore, especially for Alien. People (especially the young crowd) nowadays instead of Predator want Perry's Yautja (I don't know the books, he invented the term, right?) and Cameron's bugs instead of Alien. That's what I think is happening.

Quote from: superunknown on Sep 11, 2007, 02:24:55 AM
First of all, there are more Alien fans than Predator fans.  Way more.  There were 4 Alien movies, two of them are on IMDB's Top 250 list.  The Alien movies all made more money than the Predator films, of which there were only 2, and 1 of them bombed.

Secondly, Predators aren't superior because they require weapons and armor to fight.  Aliens need neither, they're living biological weapons who are completely self-reliant.  Like Ash said in Alien, the xenomorph is the perfect survivor/killer. 

if they were perfect they wouldnt have gottem themselves killed so easliy, and besidies NOTHING
and i mean NOTHING is perfect......God is the only one who could might be perfect :P



@ Irritator: aliens are animals, they are organizems but bug like organizems;not of how they look and stuff, but by the way hey act, only aliens who are alone (alien) dontt have that instinct

Quote@ Irritator: aliens are animals, they are organizems but bug like organizems;not of how they look and stuff, but by the way hey act, only aliens who are alone (alien) dontt have that instinct

I've already said: you consider them whatever you want to. They'll alway be much, much more for me. Frankly, to me your interpretation seems very uninteresting and boring, but that's just me.

QuoteBecause no one really cares about the originals anymore, especially for Alien. People (especially the young crowd) nowadays instead of Predator want Perry's Yautja (I don't know the books, he invented the term, right?) and Cameron's bugs instead of Alien. That's what I think is happening.

Pretty much spot on in my opinion.  I read Prey/Hunters Planet a long while back and remember a specific passage from it where Broken Tusk says something to the effect of "In the end, the black warrior wins all battles".  So basically even the most hardcore predator who most fans are gay for admits that the aliens are superior in the grand scheme of things. :p

Ohh please stop this kindergarten crap "aliens are stronger then predators" and the other way arround....
We have enough of this fanboy shit on imdb, please let alone this forum with this shit childish crap.

Mankind has made computers, telecommunication, spacecraft, space-stations, harassed the power of the atom and has sophisticated weaponry. Yet a man can still be killed if out hunting Rhino or Bear or even stag.

I think it's the same way for Predators. They are superior in terms of intelligence, they have mastered space travel, can reproduce their prey, speak languages, harass the atom, they are smarter than Aliens. END OF.

Yet that doesn't mean they are superior in strength or combat, it's like saying man is superior to Dinosaurs because he has technology.... but he would still get ripped apart if not equip with it and have the intelligence to use it correctly.

Haven't we had this debate a dozen times, as much as we saw in GAYVP predators may be physically stronger but as far as i know it's never officially confirmed. Also please stop referencing to AVP for predators strength, sure they were depicted as stronger but remember which dickhead directed the film. Both races are awesome thats the whole truth.

Quote from: The Wolf on Sep 11, 2007, 10:33:48 AM
Of course they broke out. If they didn't it would make the movie very boring.  :D lol

I still think they can contain them if its done right. Wouldn't you think humans are superior to everything on this planet? Because of our intellegence we could contain anything and kill it if we want to. Thats what makes us superior. If Aliens exsisted we could do the same if we were very carefull. They are no more than beast. Predators are superior to us because they are just like us in strength a technology but ten times more in each catagory. Thats just my thoughts. I know you think differently.

I hate to burst your bubble, pal, but we are not the masters of nature here. We're at it's mercy. We are weak, fragile organisms that are poorly designed with oversized heads and brains with obscene nutrition requirements. Our senses suck. We aren't very strong, fast, or agile. The only things we've got going for us are that we can build tools and we can reason...and we aren't always so great at the latter. Disreguarding the possibility of us destroying ourselves, all it would take to drive us all into extinction is for some harmless little germ to mutate into a fast-spreding supervirus that turns our organs into liquid shit.

Intelligence is not the end-all, be-all of evolution. It's the exception rather than the norm. If anything, it's a rare, lucky accident that gives us a temporary, awkward advantage that can be overcome.

Like I said, the predator can win several battles, but for all that, he can lose the war.

Quote from: James OCanis on Sep 11, 2007, 04:31:08 PM

Quote from: The Wolf on Sep 11, 2007, 10:33:48 AM
Of course they broke out. If they didn't it would make the movie very boring.  :D lol

I still think they can contain them if its done right. Wouldn't you think humans are superior to everything on this planet? Because of our intellegence we could contain anything and kill it if we want to. Thats what makes us superior. If Aliens exsisted we could do the same if we were very carefull. They are no more than beast. Predators are superior to us because they are just like us in strength a technology but ten times more in each catagory. Thats just my thoughts. I know you think differently.

I hate to burst your bubble, pal, but we are not the masters of nature here. We're at it's mercy. We are weak, fragile organisms that are poorly designed with oversized heads and brains with obscene nutrition requirements. Our senses suck. We aren't very strong, fast, or agile. The only things we've got going for us are that we can build tools and we can reason...and we aren't always so great at the latter. Disreguarding the possibility of us destroying ourselves, all it would take to drive us all into extinction is for some harmless little germ to mutate into a fast-spreding supervirus that turns our organs into liquid shit.

Intelligence is not the end-all, be-all of evolution. It's the exception rather than the norm. If anything, it's a rare, lucky accident that gives us a temporary, awkward advantage that can be overcome.

Like I said, the predator can win several battles, but for all that, he can lose the war.

You guys don't understand what I've been trying to say. Us humans and Predators (since we are alot alike in some ways) could use our intellegence to put any specie into extinction. Your exactly right. We mastered building and using tools. Thats exactly how we do what we do. (both Predators and us humans) Aliens aren't like that. They are very intellengent but not as complicated as we are. They are like animals. So they can't build or use tools, they increase their numbers and spread. Thats when Predators could step in and eridicate them completely. Thats if they wanted to. Since we (Humans and Predators) can do such things, coming from our intellegence, ultimately making us superior. The reason why we are on top of the food chain is because of our intellegence. Not our strength, speed or agility. Doesn't that make us superior?

(reply without flaming, I can feel it coming)

Quote from: The Wolf on Sep 11, 2007, 11:04:56 PM

You guys don't understand what I've been trying to say. Us humans and Predators (since we are alot alike in some ways) could use our intellegence to put any specie into extinction. Your exactly right. We mastered building and using tools. Thats exactly how we do what we do. (both Predators and us humans) Aliens aren't like that. They are very intellengent but not as complicated as we are. They are like animals. So they can't build or use tools, they increase their numbers and spread. Thats when Predators could step in and eridicate them completely. Thats if they wanted to. Since we (Humans and Predators) can do such things, coming from our intellegence, ultimately making us superior. The reason why we are on top of the food chain is because of our intellegence. Not our strength, speed or agility. Doesn't that make us superior?

(reply without flaming, I can feel it coming)

Yes perhaps having a higher intellegence makes us superior in that one aspect. However, one can get away from himself in thinking he is superior in every way shape and form and lose all respect to everything else but him. The second you lose respect for something you feel is inferior to you it jumps up to bite you in the ass. Humans lack respect for the earth, thus global warming is biting us in the ass. The predators are similar to us in this fashion. They think they are superior to everything because of their intelligence and physical prowess and this makes them cocky at times. When this happens the "inferior" thing comes up, and you guessed it, bites em in the ass. Oh and humans have been superior and on top of the food chain how long compared to other species?  :-\ 

Michael Biehn everybody, a wise man.

Quote from: Daweism on Sep 12, 2007, 06:31:38 AM
Michael Biehn everybody, a wise man.

Not so wise in the Abyss!  :D