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I was thinking since there have been so much predator movie in present day would it not be cool to have a predator movie set in the future with marines with smartguns on a colony. Well what do you think.

YES I would love to see that.

Either this or Predators hunting in historical settings.

Or even Predators hunting a different intelligent life. (Not sure how that would work as a movie, but it could work in a game or a one-shot comic if done right. Could also work really well in a novel.)

present or future is find by me,
all i ask for is mindless blood and a high body count

your pitch is actually very similar to a rumored PRED script that was going(floating) around years ago like in 2007ish? or something that i remember reading about on here or another site about "a group of marines running into a bunch on PREDS on a planet that were planning to invade EARTH", with THE ROCK's name being attach.

if when you say "marines", you mean like the colonial marines from the AVP games etc.
the only gripe that i would have is using "colonial marines" , to me "colonial marines" are a ALIENS and AVP(games) thing
having colonial marines and no XENOs would not feel right

now why the f++k the braintrust at FOX studios could have done that for the AVP(films) is beyond me

Quote from: LAWNMOWERMAN on May 24, 2015, 08:07:14 AM
present or future is find by me,
all i ask for is mindless blood and a high body count

your pitch is actually very similar to a rumored PRED script that was going(floating) around years ago like in 2007ish? or something that i remember reading about on here or another site about "a group of marines running into a bunch on PREDS on a planet that were planning to invade EARTH", with THE ROCK's name being attach.

if when you say "marines", you mean like the colonial marines from the AVP games etc.
the only gripe that i would have is using "colonial marines" , to me "colonial marines" are a ALIENS and AVP(games) thing
having colonial marines and no XENOs would not feel right

now why the f++k the braintrust at FOX studios could have done that for the AVP(films) is beyond me

Maybe marines as the united Americas soilders just something in the future something innovative not the same jungle setting maybe like area 52 in AVP 1999

Good idea? Yes, I think it could be.

Will we get it? Doubt it, it'd be too expensive.

A Predator movie set in the future? Mmmm.. Only if it's separate from the Alien timeline, or as a continuation of AVP but.. that's it.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 27, 2015, 09:09:16 AM
Will we get it? Doubt it, it'd be too expensive.

Agreed..

Quote from: RakaiThwei on May 27, 2015, 03:34:02 PM
A Predator movie set in the future? Mmmm.. Only if it's separate from the Alien timeline, or as a continuation of AVP but.. that's it.

I dunno...seeing a Predator only film where they go up against some Colonial Marines could be really fun!

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 27, 2015, 03:37:07 PM
I dunno...seeing a Predator only film where they go up against some Colonial Marines could be really fun!

Oh I'm not denying that, but with this revisionist history going on within the Alien timeline... Yeeeaaaaaah, I'd prefer it to be a separate thing entirely or a continuation of AvP. You know.. multiple timelines.. all that jive.

One thing I'd like to see... Predator in a futuristic city setting. Kind of cyberpunk setting? I know that someone mentioned an AvP script written in a Blade Runner type setting, just remove the Alien, revise the Predator as the main antagonist... There you go.

Quote from: RakaiThwei on May 27, 2015, 03:41:59 PMOne thing I'd like to see... Predator in a futuristic city setting. Kind of cyberpunk setting?

Concrete Jungle (the game) did a decent job of that. I loved the setting.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 27, 2015, 03:44:56 PM
Concrete Jungle (the game) did a decent job of that. I loved the setting.

Concrete Jungle was an awesome game, if you want my opinion. Absolutely loved it.

Quote from: RakaiThwei on May 27, 2015, 03:45:56 PMConcrete Jungle was an awesome game, if you want my opinion. Absolutely loved it.

The controls were a bit ass, but otherwise I completely agree.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 27, 2015, 04:37:58 PM
The controls were a bit ass, but otherwise I completely agree.

I had no problems with the controls, probably because I changed the button configuration with Style 7- Slayer.

So long as the story would also factor in however many centuries of their own technological advancement. Would be a bit strange to see a 1980s/1990s-era Predator wandering around.

Unless they are a stagnant people. Which might be an interesting thing itself.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 05, 2015, 07:13:36 AM
Unless they are a stagnant people. Which might be an interesting thing itself.

I agree, I think they are a bit stagnant in some ways.

Look at us, we have some super advanced computers and are progressing with robotics.

Yet we still rely on petrol for our cars when we could've shifted to solar powered cars long ago, heck, we had battery powered cars much earlier than we thought. Admittedly it's not as practical yet as a petrol powered car, but given enough technological motivation, we could make it practical. But humans like it easy so we stick with the easiest method.  :P Our own technology can be a bit schizophrenic. But we do advance pretty fast.

Yet the Predators are taking it easy with regards to ships and even their fashion. They must've been like this since 6,000 BCE (if you take what AvP says as true, where they came and taught humans to build, and the first civilization started around six thousand years ago. Plus one of the NECA toys backstories mentions something in Egypt 4,000 years ago that started the whole clan blood feud between the classics and the Berserker Predator's clan)

And even AvP comics, games and novels, humanity changes and advances, they get motion trackers, smart guns, ftl travel, synthetics while Predators still hunt them with their regular hunting gear.

Who knows though? Maybe they do advanced in other things but still purposely keep limiting themselves for the challenge? It may be traditional. Maybe they have reached a technological peak for themselves and see no further reason to progress.

Maybe the Predators we've seen are actually only a small portion of their race. Or maybe it's a completely separate culture/off-shoot? And it's that off-shoot that is stagnant.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 27, 2015, 03:37:07 PM

Quote from: RakaiThwei on May 27, 2015, 03:34:02 PM
A Predator movie set in the future? Mmmm.. Only if it's separate from the Alien timeline, or as a continuation of AVP but.. that's it.

I dunno...seeing a Predator only film where they go up against some Colonial Marines could be really fun!

I was thinking of it to be set in Fury 161 ( predator in avp 1999 and alien in alien 3) what do you think

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Quote from: RakaiThwei on May 27, 2015, 03:41:59 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 27, 2015, 03:37:07 PM
I dunno...seeing a Predator only film where they go up against some Colonial Marines could be really fun!

Oh I'm not denying that, but with this revisionist history going on within the Alien timeline... Yeeeaaaaaah, I'd prefer it to be a separate thing entirely or a continuation of AvP. You know.. multiple timelines.. all that jive.

One thing I'd like to see... Predator in a futuristic city setting. Kind of cyberpunk setting? I know that someone mentioned an AvP script written in a Blade Runner type setting, just remove the Alien, revise the Predator as the main antagonist... There you go.

wouldn't that be similar to predator 2 and predator 2 got bad reviews ( i loved predator 2 )

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Quote from: RakaiThwei on May 27, 2015, 03:34:02 PM
A Predator movie set in the future? Mmmm.. Only if it's separate from the Alien timeline, or as a continuation of AVP but.. that's it.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 27, 2015, 09:09:16 AM
Will we get it? Doubt it, it'd be too expensive.

Agreed..

Well if FOX puts equal amount of effort and money they get the money and good response from the audience and fans

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 05, 2015, 02:41:11 PM
Maybe the Predators we've seen are actually only a small portion of their race. Or maybe it's a completely separate culture/off-shoot? And it's that off-shoot that is stagnant.

So have different types of predators?

A Predator film set in the future that serves as a prelude for an AVP film is something I would like to see.

Regarding the Predator's stagnant technology, could time dilation be used to explain that?  I have no clue how it works.

Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Jul 01, 2015, 12:31:38 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 05, 2015, 02:41:11 PM
Maybe the Predators we've seen are actually only a small portion of their race. Or maybe it's a completely separate culture/off-shoot? And it's that off-shoot that is stagnant.

So have different types of predators?

We already do. Nothing to stop more.

Quote from: Kelgaard on Jul 04, 2015, 07:07:58 PM
Regarding the Predator's stagnant technology, could time dilation be used to explain that?  I have no clue how it works.

Maybe...in terms of space travel if they don't use an advanced form of travel but...it's stretching it.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 27, 2015, 03:37:07 PM

Quote from: RakaiThwei on May 27, 2015, 03:34:02 PM
A Predator movie set in the future? Mmmm.. Only if it's separate from the Alien timeline, or as a continuation of AVP but.. that's it.

I dunno...seeing a Predator only film where they go up against some Colonial Marines could be really fun!

I would think that ultimately the idea moving forward is to tie these franchises together right? They have 2 films, numerous comics and games, and yet the USCM have not yet fought the Predators on the big screen. Only due to the fact that the USCM haven't been used outside of ALIENS in film.

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 02, 2016, 01:59:29 AM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 27, 2015, 03:37:07 PM

Quote from: RakaiThwei on May 27, 2015, 03:34:02 PM
A Predator movie set in the future? Mmmm.. Only if it's separate from the Alien timeline, or as a continuation of AVP but.. that's it.

I dunno...seeing a Predator only film where they go up against some Colonial Marines could be really fun!

I would think that ultimately the idea moving forward is to tie these franchises together right? They have 2 films, numerous comics and games, and yet the USCM have not yet fought the Predators on the big screen. Only due to the fact that the USCM haven't been used outside of ALIENS in film.

Fingers crossed.

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 02, 2016, 01:59:29 AM
I would think that ultimately the idea moving forward is to tie these franchises together right? They have 2 films, numerous comics and games, and yet the USCM have not yet fought the Predators on the big screen. Only due to the fact that the USCM haven't been used outside of ALIENS in film.

It would seem there is some interest in creating a more coherent Alien/Predator/Prometheus universe - at least in comic form. It'd be interesting to see that translate to the big screen too. Assuming it's done well, I'd quite happily watch the M41A go up against the Plasma Casters. It'd probably be a safe way to dip their toes in the water.

QuoteI'd quite happily watch the M41A go up against the Plasma Casters.

Agreed. Although, I wonder what standard explosive tipped light armor piercing rounds would do to a Predators armor? In Predator, Predator 2 and Predators unless they are hit in the unprotected/exposed areas of the armor. Normal 20th and 21st century rounds just seem to bounce right off.

I'd love to see a Predator film set in a Blade Runner like future and if it was to be linked to the Aliens universe in any way shapr or form they could always have Weyland-Yutani going after a Predator or Predators for their technology. I don't think it will have any connection though. I still really like the idea of a WWII non jungle setting as well though.

I really don't see what would be gained by pitting Colonial Marines up against Predators, these days. The US military would be much like them, even today. Smart-guns, no, but smart bullets have already been invented and motion sensors have been a thing for a very long time (the public areas near to Area 51 are famously littered with them).

And, to be honest, I wouldn't give a Predator much of a chance against us... Our technology is already on parity with theirs - if not even better.

Except the whole interstellar travel thing, they still have that on us.  :)

And pocket nuclear-like devices. That too.

And plasma guns.

And light weight metals that cut through steal.

And cloaking device.

Smart weapons have got to see them first and for all we know they might carry some sort of technology that scrambles anything like that so you can't get a lock on them. It wouldn't surprise me at all. And if they didn't they'd soon adapt so that they did have something like that. It's what they do.

Quote from: 420Buddy on Mar 08, 2016, 07:33:00 PM
Except the whole interstellar travel thing, they still have that on us. :)

That's how they get here, but it doesn't necessarily give them a combat advantage. All we've seen them use it for is transport.

Quote from: Master on Mar 09, 2016, 07:55:36 AM
And pocket nuclear-like devices. That too.

We have them down to at least briefcase-sized (if not, by now, a lot smaller), but what advantage does that give them in combat? They only use it if they want to commit suicide.

So, basically, you're saying both sides would have access to nuclear weapons. Again, that doesn't give them an advantage over us. It just puts them on parity.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 09, 2016, 08:41:07 AM
And plasma guns.

I doubt they're literally plasma weapons, as plasma is hilariously bad at following a straight line, but OK, they have some kind of energy weapon... But it's much less destructive than what we have access - and is very slow (as is the system they have for generating firing solutions).

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 09, 2016, 09:45:17 AM
And light weight metals that cut through steal.

Again, not really much of an advantage on the battlefield. We've got ammunition which can penetrate steel.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Mar 09, 2016, 11:10:16 AM
And cloaking device.

A technology which we're beginning to get into, too. But it won't help them much unless it also masks their thermal and motion-sensing signatures, along with a host of other stuff. All we know for sure is that they can somehow bend visible light - and, as someone who's been trained in CCTV security, I can say a many computerised surveillance systems would easily cue on that shimmer they produce, the moment they move around.

Quote from: Sgt Harry G Wells on Mar 09, 2016, 11:22:05 AM
Smart weapons have got to see them first and for all we know they might carry some sort of technology that scrambles anything like that so you can't get a lock on them. It wouldn't surprise me at all. And if they didn't they'd soon adapt so that they did have something like that. It's what they do.

I'm going on what we've seen evidence of on screen. Otherwise, we might as well say they have magic, too. :)

Is a Predator a formidable opponent? Of course! Is it necessarily a match for a realistic portrayal of decent modern military forces? Eh...

But that's exactly why it's better to keep it hunting civilian and paramilitary targets.

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 11, 2016, 06:57:03 PMI doubt they're literally plasma weapons, as plasma is hilariously bad at following a straight line, but OK, they have some kind of energy weapon... But it's much less destructive than what we have access - and is very slow (as is the system they have for generating firing solutions).

Humanity has nothing the size of hairdryer that's as powerful as the Predator Plasmacaster. It can punch a hole clean through a man's chest.

Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 12, 2016, 10:47:06 AM
Humanity has nothing the size of hairdryer that's as powerful as the Predator Plasmacaster. It can punch a hole clean through a man's chest.

Even if we just go by ordinary guns, we've got weapons which can do a heck of a lot more than that... Plus, the US has already got operational naval laser weapons and will soon be fitting actual railguns on them, too.

A lot of what that shoulder cannon does (with whatever it actually fires) is relatively low-powered. Look at dutch's shoulder - it super-heats a patch of skin, at most. If anything, it has more kinetic than thermal energy, for some reason, judging by how it throws him back. I'd say even a flare gun essentially does to a human being what a Predator's shoulder cannon can.

It can be destructive, but seems less so than our comparatively primitive conventional firearms.

Predator goes to grocery store and hunts meat manager

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 13, 2016, 12:49:58 AMPlus, the US has already got operational naval laser weapons and will soon be fitting actual railguns on them, too.

Sure... but all of those are so huge they have to be mounted on battleships. They aren't even nearly man-portable, and even if they were, you could never move around with them because you'd be tethered to the enormous generators required to power them. We have conventional weapons that could put a hole through a man, but you can't pop one on your shoulder and run around with it.

We have nothing so small that can do comparable damage.

Quote from: Xenomorphine on Mar 13, 2016, 12:49:58 AMLook at dutch's shoulder - it super-heats a patch of skin, at most.

It doesn't hit his shoulder. It hits his rifle. The damage to his shoulder is from the M16 exploding in two. The Predator deliberately destroys his gun because he wants to draw it out.

Can we just have a fun discussion on the idea of themes for the next Predator movies instead of ripping the fictional lore apart because tech is catching up to the scifi antics of the 70s and 80s?

Besides, if the Predators wanted to enslave the human race (for future hunting, workforce, food, whatever), to do so would require them to take out the militaries of the Earth. I would think they have a lot stronger arsenal for full-fledged war. Remember, the Predator loves to put themselves on even footing with their prey. They hunt civilians and paramilitary with the human equivalent of their equipment. Hunters will wear camo, have knifes and medical kits on themselves, along with a ranged weapon or two.

Amen PRJ. Anybody would think this was a thread for people that didn't like the Predator films, lol.