So I had the generalization of this idea since A:I was first released:
Will you think an Alien Isolation Movie (feature film) could be a possible win for the franchise?
adding that the original cast of actors and actresses who voiced the game commit to their live action counter parts.
I think it's ballsy if they did it, rehashing the original tone and concept. The only problems i'd see would be the Alien being in costume with tail and all somehow wouldn't work onscreen as a full body monster.
I'm sure though the CGI alien could be used and rendered to be spot on perfect.
The story though would be proper to re-write it for a 2 hour movie and would love for it to go a whole different direction or tell the original story and not go right to the end.
anyone?
No CG Alien and I'd be on board.
Quote from: Son Of Kane on Jan 12, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
No CG Alien and I'd be on board.
How about a judicious combination of CG and practical effects? For instance, I think CG would have a role in making the tail move a little more believably as a prehensile limb, although it certainly wouldn't be necessary to do that in every shot.
Quote from: Doktor_Wunderbar on Jan 14, 2015, 11:36:54 PM
Quote from: Son Of Kane on Jan 12, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
No CG Alien and I'd be on board.
How about a judicious combination of CG and practical effects? For instance, I think CG would have a role in making the tail move a little more believably as a prehensile limb, although it certainly wouldn't be necessary to do that in every shot.
No, none of that silly AVP- nonsense the Alien's tale should be as it is in Isolation, sort of limp, dragging on the ground twitching every so often.
Whatever the case may be, I think its agreed that the original Giger alien is needed to do full body shots for a movie like this as it makes more sense as we are pretty much use to it by now in this game. We don't quite see anything else but that and close ups which (IMHO) still looks abit OFF.
I could be the teeth or the angle of the head....
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 16, 2015, 12:01:23 AM
Whatever the case may be, I think its agreed that the original Giger alien is needed to do full body shots for a movie like this as it makes more sense as we are pretty much use to it by now in this game. We don't quite see anything else but that and close ups which (IMHO) still looks abit OFF.
I could be the teeth or the angle of the head....
not on board with a movie. the game was great leave it alone.
and i tihnk its the color of thalien it hasa greyish silver color instead of a black shell look
Quote from: Nazrel on Jan 16, 2015, 08:22:24 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 16, 2015, 12:01:23 AM
Whatever the case may be, I think its agreed that the original Giger alien is needed to do full body shots for a movie like this as it makes more sense as we are pretty much use to it by now in this game. We don't quite see anything else but that and close ups which (IMHO) still looks abit OFF.
I could be the teeth or the angle of the head....
not on board with a movie. the game was great leave it alone.
and i tihnk its the color of thalien it hasa greyish silver color instead of a black shell look
If I'm not mistaken, that was the same coloration used in the first movie. It just didn't show up very well due to the lighting used in the film.
I like the idea of a movie using this setup. It needs a good director and actors of course. The alien could be done similar to the aliens in Alien: Resurrection (cgi and constructed dolls). Doing it like the first movie did it would screw it up nowadays, because you're pretty limited in what you can show the audience then.
I think a good majority of the film could still have the claustrophobic ambiance of the first film and let a certain portion of it dedicated to the Alien reveal. So long as it accomplishes it's story.
For them to recreate a Nostromo type of ship though would be interesting. It would be great for them to keep that 70s feel too with the wardrobe. I wonder how much something like this might cost.
Quote from: vikingr on Jan 24, 2015, 05:01:54 PM
I like the idea of a movie using this setup. It needs a good director and actors of course. The alien could be done similar to the aliens in Alien: Resurrection (cgi and constructed dolls). Doing it like the first movie did it would screw it up nowadays, because you're pretty limited in what you can show the audience then.
I agree with the cast and director part. But Resurrection aliens...oh please God, Buddha, Allah, Odin, Zeus, Anubis and all the other dieties: NOOOOOOO!!!!! ;) If it has to be CGI just grab the one from the game and put it in the movie.
But yeah: do it like the first movie. Sort of ALIEN hd version.
A:R looked great, I thought the aliens were fine in that one - and that was 1996 I think. I'm sure CGI + (and that's a really big plus) live effects would be great nowadays.
I don't want the style of the A:R Aliens but the techniques they used to show them. CGI and live effects blended it to each other really well in this movie (other then in Alien 3).
The style should be borrowed from the game.
It wasn't CGI in Alien 3. It was something called mo-motion. It was a rod-puppet filmed on a blue (I think?) screen and then inserted into the footage.
I do agree that a blend of practical and CG would be a good idea. I can't see a man in a suit moving the way the Alien slinks out the vents.
Ah you're right, I should've remebered that from all the making ofs I watched :D
That was definately horrible implemented.
A summary of the creature effects used in the franchise.
1979 - Alien has a live action costumed man in closeups.
1986 - Aliens had many people in large costumes and closeups most of them used wires to jump and dangle.
1992 - Alien3 had very good full body costume but the animalistic movements of the creature were captured with the rod puppet (imho they animated well but the composites were crude and you can make out the green screen)
1997 Alien Resurrection. Still the live action costumes were good but less Giger in it. There were full alien CG creatures to do the full animated body movements. They looked very toony because their actions were practically impossible. (this is where CGI made them creatures cheap IMHO)
2004 - AVP was interesting because the aliens (most of the shots) were practical effects and costumed creatures.
2007 AVP Requiem, still with the costumes however CGI was used to make special effects which were plenty of them.
2012 - Promethues had some pretty realistic shots of CGI creatures. No problems here. I felt that it was barely noticeable.
This could all be due to the basic lighting and minimalist movements.
I still don't see the full HR giger alien being in CGI and looking too great. It looks very CGI up close to me in the game no doubt about that. It's intent is to basically scare the pants off of you in less than 5 seconds.
I don't think a movie is needed. What an experienced gamer and video editor should do is make an abridged version of the game perhaps down to 2.5 to 3 hours. That would be cool to have if you ever want to watch ALIEN then get the story from A:I
Quote from: acrediblesource on Jan 26, 2015, 07:34:33 PM
I still don't see the full HR giger alien being in CGI and looking too great. It looks very CGI up close to me in the game no doubt about that. It's intent is to basically scare the pants off of you in less than 5 seconds.
Wait. A creature in computer game looks too much computer generated to you? Really? As for "scaring the pants" - it succeeded I guess.
I'm not sure the game would make a good movie at all.
Forgetting for a moment that virtually all game-to-film adaptations suck, the majority of the game is about you being on your own. That wouldn't make for a particularly great film. It's OK in the last few minutes of Alien but an entire movie about one lone survivor would get tedious fast.
Unless you switched it and made the film about the fall of Sevastopol, before Amanda gets there. That could work.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 27, 2015, 12:39:56 PM
an entire movie about one lone survivor would get tedious fast.
Is this a widely held view? I like movies like that (Cast Away (or Robinson Crusoe if you prefer), Silent Running and Love spring to mind (Love is about a lone astronaut)), but even these feature interactions and have scenes with more than one character.
I guess the question is off topic - but I'd be interested to hear people's views on the lone survivor aspect.
Quote from: Russ on Jan 27, 2015, 12:52:51 PMIs this a widely held view? I like movies like that (Cast Away (or Robinson Crusoe if you prefer), Silent Running and Love spring to mind (Love is about a lone astronaut)), but even these feature interactions and have scenes with more than one character.
Haven't seen
Love, but the others you mention still have the character interacting with something (Wilson, Huey and Dewey). Not sure there's really time for that when there's an Alien trying to perforate your face every second of the day. It might seem a bit daft to have Amanda pluck up a friendship with an inanimate object when her life's constantly on the line.
unless she starts talking to her flame thrower...
I meant in general - but probably the wrong thread to ask the question as I say.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 27, 2015, 12:39:56 PM
Unless you switched it and made the film about the fall of Sevastopol, before Amanda gets there. That could work.
I like this idea. But I also think a movie with the same story would work. She interacts with a bunch of guys like Samuels, Dr. Kuhlmann, Morley, Marshal Waits and so on. You would cut many scenes where she is roaming around alone and you would show the scenes were she mets people in full length.
Thats interesting about the Fall of Sevestapol.
I thought it surely would make a good sequel or prequel to AI. But
the idea of watching the friendly company synthetics turn into murderous Weyland Yutani drones with an ulterior motive would be a sight to see. I don't think we've seen something like that in a movie or in a game.
The Lone survivor movie that comes to mind is adrien brody in Wrecked. He'd go into flash backs while trying to stay alive in the wild. The flash backs pretty much tell the real story for you. It could work in this scenario for AI.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 27, 2015, 12:39:56 PM
Unless you switched it and made the film about the fall of Sevastopol, before Amanda gets there. That could work.
This is a great idea. But I imagine it would cost Fox more than they'd be willing to spend. It would require a rather large cast and considering how large the station is, recreating it for a movie regardless of method could cost more than most of the previous movies combined.
I would like to see another Alien film, but you can't really touch the first one without it being too similar. Now, granted, I loved the first film, so more of the same would be excellent to me, but I feel the series could branch out into some of the stories the comics represent. A film based solely off the game would work, in theory, but it would have to cut so much in order to be a decent paced 2.5 hour movie. It wouldn't do justice to the game.
I think their should not be a movie think about it they made good alien flims and who are they going to get to act as Amanda so they should not make a Movie it will be a okay Idea.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/02/26/new-alien-will-categorically-not-feature-ripley-8/ (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2015/02/26/new-alien-will-categorically-not-feature-ripley-8/)
So chances are likely The original Ripley will be returning. Meaning it could be before Alien 3 or Alien 3 didn't happen OR Ripley returns possibly like some kind of a dream sequence or she's a digital holographic being or AI. Whatever!
It COULD happen! Meaning Isolation can happen!
I don't think Isolation should ever be made into a movie, there is no point, we played it, completed it and so the story is already been told and done. In fact, the point of Isolation was to have us in the world of Alien, having it as a movie would put us back in passenger seat instead of the driver seat.
Well if Alien 3 gets retconned so be it, not sure how I feel about it though.