Warner Bros. Circling David Ayer for DC Comics' 'Suicide Squad' (Exclusive)
http://variety.com/2014/film/news/warner-bros-circling-david-ayer-for-adaptation-of-dc-comics-suicide-squad-1201308883/ (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/warner-bros-circling-david-ayer-for-adaptation-of-dc-comics-suicide-squad-1201308883/)
Trying to get on that CW popularity.
I would rather watch the CW version with the Arrow-verse characters.
Quote from: First Blood on Sep 19, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
I would rather watch the CW version with the Arrow-verse characters.
If they don't hire the Deadshot from Arrow, then there will be hell to pay. If anyone needs a push, it's that dude.
Eff this. Do Secret Six.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.writeups.org%2Fimg%2Finset%2FSecret_Six_extra-CA_h3.jpg&hash=c8bc08492b239bb3f3c19cd6526cb193d8d2ae2a)
Quote from: Blacklabel on Sep 19, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
Eff this. Do Secret Six.
http://www.writeups.org/img/inset/Secret_Six_extra-CA_h3.jpg
They can do both, Deadshot is in regardless.
I recently watched Batman: Assault on Arkham, it was more or less cool.
But looks like WB is going bonkers with their DC TV licenses. Last time I read they're developing a Lucifer spin-off for Constantine.
Manu Bennett or nothing.
It's also probably going to feel like a response to Sinister Six from Sony ::)
Quote from: Magegg on Sep 20, 2014, 01:52:57 AM
It's also probably going to feel like a response to Sinister Six from Sony ::)
wouldn't get your hopes up for sinister. sony look like idiots announcing sinister six and two more spiderman sequels.
Warner Bros. Courting Ryan Gosling, Will Smith, Tom Hardy, and Margot Robbie for SUICIDE SQUAD
http://collider.com/suicide-squad-will-smith-ryan-gosling/ (http://collider.com/suicide-squad-will-smith-ryan-gosling/)
Tom Hardy would be a good fit. Hell no to Will Smith.
What's gonna be the Suicide Squad roster? Deadshot, Bane, Harley? Deathstroke, maybe? KGBeast, like in the animated movie? If they're looking for black actors, Black Manta or Black Spider, then?
Ryan Gosling for Deadshot, Hardy for KGBeast, Will Smith as Black Spider, and Robbie as Harley. It's clear as day.
Angela Bassett for Vixen, yo.
Wow. If they get half of them actors it will be great
Quote from: ShadowPred on Oct 16, 2014, 03:42:17 PM
Ryan Gosling for Deadshot, Hardy for KGBeast, Will Smith as Black Spider, and Robbie as Harley. It's clear as day.
Don't you think Black Manta could have a bigger chance? Spider and KGBeast were only in the animated movie for
Spoiler
them to die
I like the idea of KGBeast, though... I guess Hardy wouldn't be Bane again... Unless they actually put him the luchador mask this time? And a different accent? Who knows.
Black Manta is too good for Suicide Squad early on.
Hey, this is great news. The more comicbook-movies, the better. Love them all.
So, what's Suicide Squad? Never heard of it.
But he has much more of a story with the Suicide Squad than Black Spider, which was added just for the animated movie. Any other black character? I'd like the fatty girl from GL to be back as Amanda Waller.
Quote from: Scree on Oct 16, 2014, 05:27:06 PM
Hey, this is great news. The more comicbook-movies, the better. Love them all.
So, what's Suicide Squad? Never heard of it.
Suicide Squad is a team assembled by Amanda Waller (some corporate baddy from the DC Universe). She captures some villains and forces them to work for her and accomplish missions in exchange for not being incarcerated or killed.
There's a recent animated movie, Assault on Arkham, in which the Suicide Squad are the main characters. I'd recommend you to watch it, it's fun and you'll completely get what the Suicide Squad is about.
Quote from: Scree on Oct 16, 2014, 05:27:06 PM
So, what's Suicide Squad? Never heard of it.
A bunch of super villains on one team, doing the dirty work superheroes would never do. I.e. killing niggas that need killing.
The Expendables of the DC Universe, except they work for free.
Hardy, Robbie, and Gosling would be great in this. Will Smith wouldn't fit in, but hey more power to DC if they can get him. That's a bankable star.
You know, I don't know much about Deadshot but for what I saw in Assault on Arkham, I think he's a really cool character, I'd love them to do something like that in the theatrical movie. What about Captain Boomerang? Got to say I really liked him too xD
Quote from: Scree on Oct 16, 2014, 05:27:06 PM
So, what's Suicide Squad? Never heard of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JqL5s6wCgA#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JqL5s6wCgA#ws)
See? Black Manta.
Meh, who cares, he's probably going to be the villain on Aquaman. Or they could put Ocean Master just like in the Throne of Atlantis saga, and have Black Manta in the Suicide Squad. Then Ocean Master would be like a complete Loki ha ha xD I want my Kaldur'an!! <3
If they get Margot Robbie for Quinn.. ooh she needs to be half naked always
idc bout source material that woman is sexy
Black manta should be in it for sure. He would tie in nicely with aquaman
I really want to see what Ayer can do with this material.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 18, 2014, 09:56:42 PM
I really want to see what Ayer can do with this material.
Imagine if The Expendables, Sabotage and DC all did cocaine and steroids. Then gave birth to a mutated freak called Suicide Squad.
Quote from: First Blood on Oct 18, 2014, 10:44:19 PM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 18, 2014, 09:56:42 PM
I really want to see what Ayer can do with this material.
Imagine if The Expendables, Sabotage and DC all did cocaine and steroids. Then gave birth to a mutated freak called Suicide Squad.
"Who the
f**k dropped ass?!?" :laugh:
I still
really want to see an extended director's cut of that. :-\
So, do you feel Fury is Ayer's best film thus far? :)
Quote from: First Blood on Oct 18, 2014, 10:50:53 PM
So, do you feel Fury is Ayer's best film thus far? :)
Well, I've only seen those two of the ones he's directed, so yeah. Oh and I've seen the clip of Bale saying f**k a lot in that other movie. :laugh:
Quote from: First Blood on Oct 18, 2014, 10:50:53 PM
So, do you feel Fury is Ayer's best film thus far? :)
Fury was definitely his best. End of Watch was great as well, Sabatoge sucked ass though. Ayer always gets a good cast though, Suicide Squad will be successful just you people watch.
Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor Joining DC Comics Pic 'Suicide Squad'?
http://deadline.com/2014/10/jesse-eisenbergs-lex-luthor-dc-comics-suicide-squad-batman-v-superman-859659/ (http://deadline.com/2014/10/jesse-eisenbergs-lex-luthor-dc-comics-suicide-squad-batman-v-superman-859659/)
meh
Jared Leto Eyed to Play The Joker in WB's 'Suicide Squad' (Exclusive)
http://www.thewrap.com/jared-leto-eyed-to-play-the-joker-in-wbs-suicide-squad-exclusive/ (http://www.thewrap.com/jared-leto-eyed-to-play-the-joker-in-wbs-suicide-squad-exclusive/)
Quote from: ace3g on Nov 08, 2014, 12:32:05 AM
Jared Leto Eyed to Play The Joker in WB's 'Suicide Squad' (Exclusive)
http://www.thewrap.com/jared-leto-eyed-to-play-the-joker-in-wbs-suicide-squad-exclusive/ (http://www.thewrap.com/jared-leto-eyed-to-play-the-joker-in-wbs-suicide-squad-exclusive/)
Alrighty then. :o
Surprisingly predictable casting choice...
Quote from: Tangakkai on Nov 08, 2014, 03:45:58 PM
Surprisingly predictable casting choice...
Come the f**k on...
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Nov 08, 2014, 03:48:05 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on Nov 08, 2014, 03:45:58 PM
Surprisingly predictable casting choice...
Come the f**k on...
Lol right? Anyways, if this is true i won't feel so bad about Leto not being cast as Doctor Strange. I think he could probably do a fantastic Joker.
Quote from: scarhunter92 on Nov 08, 2014, 03:48:05 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on Nov 08, 2014, 03:45:58 PM
Surprisingly predictable casting choice...
Come the f**k on...
Just making an objective statement! DC normally goes for outside the box. Jared Leto is a very good, save choice.
He is known for playing trippy characters, so I don't think there will be a big protest from fans (compared to Batfleck).
More meh
Well now we know who the loose cannon/probable traitor is.
Quote from: MudButt on Oct 20, 2014, 05:02:44 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Oct 18, 2014, 10:50:53 PM
So, do you feel Fury is Ayer's best film thus far? :)
Fury was definitely his best. End of Watch was great as well, Sabatoge sucked ass though. Ayer always gets a good cast though, Suicide Squad will be successful just you people watch.
NOPE. Thought Sabotage was a pretty solid flick. End of Watch = weakest but still OK.
Jared leto for joker apparently. Can't link as I'm on my phone
Not sure how I feel about the Joker being in the film, but I like the casting.
This is probably the one DC movie that has my interest piqued at the moment.
Quote from: orchidal on Nov 08, 2014, 06:05:04 PM
Quote from: MudButt on Oct 20, 2014, 05:02:44 AM
Quote from: First Blood on Oct 18, 2014, 10:50:53 PM
So, do you feel Fury is Ayer's best film thus far? :)
Fury was definitely his best. End of Watch was great as well, Sabatoge sucked ass though. Ayer always gets a good cast though, Suicide Squad will be successful just you people watch.
NOPE. Thought Sabotage was a pretty solid flick. End of Watch = weakest but still OK.
Sabotage is messy.
End of Watch, save for dem racial cliches and bro-talk overload, is a much more compelling film. Haven't seen
Fury yet.
Margot Robbie has been confirmed to play Harley Quinn!
http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/ (http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/)
Quote from: DarthJoker45 on Nov 10, 2014, 05:50:41 AM
Margot Robbie has been confirmed to play Harley Quinn!
http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/ (http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Fba0a80d1ac8634fec5256c00d9e797f6%2Ftumblr_n0su4oaFhl1tnaufeo1_500.gif&hash=0624e86d225423ae4aa26da7450824a149cb4d2e)
I can dig that.
Quote from: DarthJoker45 on Nov 10, 2014, 05:50:41 AM
Margot Robbie has been confirmed to play Harley Quinn!
http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/ (http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/)
I was hoping for this since she was rumored to be in the talks for a role. :-*
She'll be perfect. Doubters, watch The Wolf of Wall Street.
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Nov 10, 2014, 07:29:02 AM
She'll be perfect. Doubters, watch The Wolf of Wall Street.
Yeah...I have to finally get around to watching that.
Quote from: Shasvre on Nov 10, 2014, 07:03:38 AM
Quote from: DarthJoker45 on Nov 10, 2014, 05:50:41 AM
Margot Robbie has been confirmed to play Harley Quinn!
http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/ (http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/)
I was hoping for this since she was rumored to be in the talks for a role. :-*
I can dig that...Quite a lot.
This is definitely the only DC film on my radar. Looking forward to it.
Quote from: DarthJoker45 on Nov 10, 2014, 05:50:41 AM
Margot Robbie has been confirmed to play Harley Quinn!
http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/ (http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/)
My body is certainly ready.
If the Leto rumors are true, then this is the first time we may get to see the Joker & Harley combo in live action.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 08, 2014, 10:00:45 PM
Not sure how I feel about the Joker being in the film, but I like the casting.
This is probably the one DC movie that has my interest piqued at the moment.
Same here. BvS: DoJ has almost nothing that I would look forward to. Batfleck or Lexeinberg have me curious as to how that may look, but I'm not excited for them. I would be if it wasn't for the weird casting.
But this movie seems cray cray. In such a good way. At first i wasn't too sure about them adding the Joker to this, but First Blood makes a good point: it will be the first time we see the Joker and Harley combo in a live action movie. And i was excited about this movie before I realized that.
Just don't f**k this up WB.
I wonder if Deathstroke will appear or not? I feel like Ron Perlman needs to play the role since he already voices the character in Teen Titans and Slade is a pretty old guy.
I doubt that Perlman would play Deathstroke if the character is in it. Perlman would have been the perfect man to play the role five or so years ago, but he would probably not want to do it now. The strange thing about Deathstroke is that David Goyer stated that a Deathstroke film was also in the works along with a Booster Gold film, this upcoming Sucide Squad film, and a Team 7 film. However, that was nearly a year ago, and now, Goyer seems to be out of the picture. I would prefer for Deathstroke to have a solo film myself.
http://www.hitfix.com/news/david-goyer-and-dc-developing-low-budget-suicide-squad-team-7-more (http://www.hitfix.com/news/david-goyer-and-dc-developing-low-budget-suicide-squad-team-7-more)
Ron Perlman should play the Blue Devil.
Leto as The Joker seems to me like a big stretch at trying to recapture Heath Ledgers Joker.
Has the joker ever been done "WRONG" in live action or animated?
Cesar Romero; Jack Nicholson; Mark Hamill; Heath Ledger...
and now Jared Leto.
He'll be fine.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Nov 11, 2014, 03:37:17 PM
Has the joker ever been done "WRONG" in live action or animated?
Cesar Romero; Jack Nicholson; Mark Hamill; Heath Ledger...
and now Jared Leto.
He'll be fine.
Now that is tempting fate! it sounds like a perfect setup for it to finally go wrong.
I see Leto being very different that Ledger's Joker. I think it'll work, honestly.
He can pull it off.
Jai Courtney Eyed for Batman Villain Deadshot in 'Suicide Squad' (EXCLUSIVE)
http://variety.com/2014/film/news/jai-courtney-eyed-for-batman-villain-deadshot-in-suicide-squad-exclusive-1201354892/ (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/jai-courtney-eyed-for-batman-villain-deadshot-in-suicide-squad-exclusive-1201354892/)
The full lineup of characters and cast for the film has been announced. (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57473)
Quote from: DarthJoker45 on Dec 02, 2014, 11:19:51 PM
The full lineup of characters and cast for the film has been announced. (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57473)
Wow, that's fantastic. And it sounds as if we'll be getting traditional fat Waller as well. :laugh:
Oh, and no wonder Leto turned down Doctor Strange. Why take that role when you can be the f**king Joker? 8)
That's a perfect fu**ing cast. Ayer always gets a good cast, films gonna rock.
I do not know about Oprah Winfrey as Amanda Waller. Is she a good actress? I have never seen her in any actual films except Scary Movie 3.
Quote from: DarthJoker45 on Dec 02, 2014, 11:34:17 PM
I do not know about Oprah Winfrey as Amanda Waller. Is she a good actress? I have never seen her in any actual films except Scary Movie 3.
I haven't seen her act, but she apparently has an Oscar for some role or other.
She gave a pretty good performance in the Butler a few years ago, and she was nominated for an Oscar for her performance in The Color Purple.
The only DC movie I have any real interest in. Hoping this is fun.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Dec 02, 2014, 11:39:48 PM
The only DC movie I have any real interest in. Hoping this is fun.
Aside from a hype because of BvS, this is definitely what I look forward too most. Holy crap, 2016 is gonna make so much money for Hollywood.
I think I'll get more hyped for other DC movies when we get more solid information about them. I'm such a Wonder Woman and Aquaman fan that those will eclipse eveything else. :laugh:
Oh, and this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgoodcomics.comicbookresources.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F08%2Fline8-30-6.jpg&hash=5399b6635718ff05fcdfdd99327b46ad8ee0c8d8)
So, a sorceress? Wow, risky move.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-X4No7a5RhWo%2FVH5P0jzF_II%2FAAAAAAAAhFs%2FfWT-OHO1710%2Fs1600%2F1496006_800299943363487_2133383870846155143_o.jpg&hash=0dd6cc05b14c279abb9a50443d1e47b5ae3e3420)
Will Smith as Deadshot...Oprah possibly as Wahler...I'm starting to get a bad feeling..
Quote from: xeno-kaname on Dec 03, 2014, 02:33:42 AM
Will Smith as Deadshot...Oprah possibly as Wahler...I'm starting to get a bad feeling..
A possibly racist bad feeling?
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Dec 03, 2014, 03:05:58 AM
Quote from: xeno-kaname on Dec 03, 2014, 02:33:42 AM
Will Smith as Deadshot...Oprah possibly as Wahler...I'm starting to get a bad feeling..
A possibly racist bad feeling?
No no no lol I really like Will Smith, but as Deadshot? It just seems ridiculous.
And yeah I don't like Oprah lol definitely not what I expect when imagining Wahler.
I don't know the female actresses here but to me it looks like they should be swapped around, the one playing Harley Quinn doesn't look right at all. The other actress looks much better for that role...facially.
I don't think Jai Courtney should be in anything frankly as the guy acts like a plank of wood and doesn't look much more exciting. He's part of a trilogy of bad forced action stars alongside Sam Worthington and Taylor Kitsch.
And yes I know how this will look but I can't see Will Smith in a role like this, his personality just doesn't fit. I kinda get the feeling they just wanted another big A-list name in the team to boost the lineup, grab more attention and bring in a wider audience. The only other big name there is Hardy.
(Leto...that's WB totally going and hoping for another Ledger result ;))
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 03, 2014, 04:29:29 AMAnd yes I know how this will look but I can't see Will Smith in a role like this, his personality just doesn't fit.
He's an ACTOR. I would even buy him as Deathstroke!
Why bother with Oprah just get CCH Pounder to play the role.
Quote from: Magegg on Dec 03, 2014, 04:49:11 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 03, 2014, 04:29:29 AMAnd yes I know how this will look but I can't see Will Smith in a role like this, his personality just doesn't fit.
He's an ACTOR. I would even buy him as Deathstroke!
So, Jared Leto is an actor, would you cast him as Wolverine or Superman or Batman? you could but I don't think he would fit those roles at all...physically facially or acting style.
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 03, 2014, 05:27:20 AMSo, Jared Leto is an actor, would you cast him as Wolverine or Superman or Batman?
No doubt at all. Have you ever seen him? He's a f**king Chameleon:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ecartelera.com%2Fimages%2Fnoticias%2Ffotos%2F12300%2F12371%2F2.jpg&hash=bb9e674a5df8b1fb19c321785dab75a1a7f29d7d)
As for Deadhsot, Smith is a terrific actor, he can be nuts, cold and imposing, as bad as After Earth is, he owned the role.
Will Smith has given good, even great performances outside of his usual persona. He'll do fine.
Smith really does feel like it was purely to have another A-lister in there. So I agree with Hubbs about that.
About Leto though I think he will do great.
Will Smith is loved by so many, and for good reason, he gives great performances. He has so much spirit and charisma as an actor, yes he's an A-List actor and bankable star, but he deserves it. He's gonna do great as Deadshot. I love the cast for this movie, Jai Courtney may be the weakest actor but he was fun in Spartacus, but Hardy and Leto, wow, love those two choices.
Nothing wrong with Smith although I like him best as the Fresh Prince hehe. But I really can't get away from the fact I think he's been cast here because he's a big bankable A-list star that will bring people in no matter how good or bad this turns out, can't get away from that.
I also don't really think he can be that kind of cold dark and calculating. He wasn't really like that in 'After Earth', he was just a stern father which isn't the same kind of thing. Maybe he can do it I dunno but I just can't see that in his personality and from previous work. Even if he can do it it might not come across that well because we all know its Will Smith. Should have used Idris instead.
This casting reminds me of Jim Carrey in 'Kick-Ass 2', just a big bankable A-list star stuck in just to be on the safe side. And now I mention it Carrey could of been a better choice for various characters.
If he could deliver the acting he gave in the first half
of Hancock then he'll do great. He just needs to channel that likeable asshole he was in the first two acts of that movie and Deadshot will be great. yes, I'm sure WB is excited because they have an A-List actor, but he's a good choice. He'll be fine.
Smith's a f**king Oscar winner, period.
WB is excited, I am excited, so we all are happy ;D
Deadshot can be pretty sarcastic and funny, which I think Will can pull off.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 03, 2014, 07:39:54 AM
Deadshot can be pretty sarcastic and funny, which I think Will can pull off.
Are we sure this isn't DC's rip-off version of Deadpool ;) (or vice versa!).
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 03, 2014, 07:41:28 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 03, 2014, 07:39:54 AM
Deadshot can be pretty sarcastic and funny, which I think Will can pull off.
Are we sure this isn't DC's rip-off version of Deadpool ;) (or vice versa!).
No, Deadpool started out as Marvel's ripoff of Deathstroke, but he grew into his own unique character over time.
No they're very different. Deadpool is never serious whilst deadshot is a leader of sorts. On similarity is they have dead in their names. Great casting
I find it amazing how some people here think that the looks or the personality of an actor define how good he will be in the part... which is the biggest bullcrap I've ever heard.
All that matters is his acting skill. If you can have a guy like Michael Keaton be Batman, having Smith as Deadshot is absolutely no problem at all.
On another note, no Slade Wilson in this movie? Is that already more or less certain?
I said similar things about Will Smith back in the day. I had him pegged as a comedy guy until I saw seven pounds and pursuit of happiness. Now I'm willing to see him in anything, I even paid to see him in after earth.
What you have to remember though is not all actors can pull off certain roles so I think it is fair to criticise some casting. In this case though there's no doubt a great casting has been assembled.
dis gon be gud
it could also be tacky.
i hope jared leto's band is not forced into this movie and the soundtrack
his music could ruin the joker very easily for me. but
with freaky facial makeup he could be ok i guess. im not blown away by his acting or movies but lets hope jared atleast wont loweer the bar much if at all from heath ledgers historic performance . jared leto was good in fight club after being disfigured, so with makeup this could work. maybe.
It's well known that he keeps his acting and music completely separate. There's no need to worry about that at all.
He picks and chooses what films he does carefully and more often than not he calls it right. Dallas buyers club, girl interrupted, thin red line, requiem for a dream and fight club are all great films in their own right. Him being cast in this is a trustworthy stamp of approval. He shouldn't aim to beat heath ledgers joker and it definitely comes down to more than make up
Quote from: DarthJoker45 on Dec 02, 2014, 11:34:17 PM
I do not know about Oprah Winfrey as Amanda Waller. Is she a good actress? I have never seen her in any actual films except Scary Movie 3.
That wasn't Oprah..
I hope Joker has bleached skin this time round.
I see this movie as another 'Watchmen' type affair myself, that's why I have my doubts with Will Smith in it, he really sticks out badly. Its like having someone like Cruise or Depp in the line up.
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 03, 2014, 03:46:11 PM
I see this movie as another 'Watchmen' type affair myself, that's why I have my doubts with Will Smith in it, he really sticks out badly. Its like having someone like Cruise or Depp in the line up.
Well, you're the only person that thinks that that I have seen, so, just relax.
Quote from: Gilfryd on Dec 03, 2014, 03:43:01 PM
Quote from: DarthJoker45 on Dec 02, 2014, 11:34:17 PM
I do not know about Oprah Winfrey as Amanda Waller. Is she a good actress? I have never seen her in any actual films except Scary Movie 3.
That wasn't Oprah..
I hope Joker has bleached skin this time round.
Yeah, I was wrong. It was
Scary Movie 4 that I was thinking of, and it was actually an actress named Debra Wilson playing Oprah.
jared leto's acting or casting in any of those movies is not memorable . and certainly has nothing to do with those movies being good. heath ledgers performance in candy is better and more real than anything jared leto's has done. music or acting wise. jared leto's around because girls like him.any talent he has comes 2nd or 3rd in importance as to why he is famous. thats fine but... in his 40s jared leto's talent as a believable character actor is small compared to ledgers acting talent in his mid 20s.
jared leto's performance as a fat fan and killer of john lennon is laughable . he got fat by drinking melted ice cream and wore ugly clothes and acted shy and awkward.... woooooooooow . hes overrated and pretty
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 10:36:55 AM
It's well known that he keeps his acting and music completely separate. There's no need to worry about that at all.
He picks and chooses what films he does carefully and more often than not he calls it right. Dallas buyers club, girl interrupted, thin red line, requiem for a dream and fight club are all great films in their own right. Him being cast in this is a trustworthy stamp of approval. He shouldn't aim to beat heath ledgers joker and it definitely comes down to more than make up
Leto's a fine choice. Better than I expected.
And Margot Robbie was my choice for Captain Marvel, but it looks like DC scooped her. She'd probably be better as Harley anyway.
I also think the Joker sticks out in this group, he doesn't really fit, yet without him it all feels a bit meh because there isn't any standout characters. At least GofG had a tree and a talking hyper active raccoon.
Quote from: worldpeace on Dec 03, 2014, 05:54:39 PM
jared leto's acting or casting in any of those movies is not memorable . and certainly has nothing to do with those movies being good. heath ledgers performance in candy is better and more real than anything jared leto's has done. music or acting wise. jared leto's around because girls like him.any talent he has comes 2nd or 3rd in importance as to why he is famous. thats fine but... in his 40s jared leto's talent as a believable character actor is small compared to ledgers acting talent in his mid 20s.
jared leto's performance as a fat fan and killer of john lennon is laughable . he got fat by drinking melted ice cream and wore ugly clothes and acted shy and awkward.... woooooooooow . hes overrated and pretty
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 10:36:55 AM
It's well known that he keeps his acting and music completely separate. There's no need to worry about that at all.
He picks and chooses what films he does carefully and more often than not he calls it right. Dallas buyers club, girl interrupted, thin red line, requiem for a dream and fight club are all great films in their own right. Him being cast in this is a trustworthy stamp of approval. He shouldn't aim to beat heath ledgers joker and it definitely comes down to more than make up
Okay so I guess all the critical acclaim he's received and award wins/nominations count for nothing. He stole every scene he was in in dallas buyers club and his performance in reqiuem was as believable as it gets. Picking out one bad film in his filmography isn't a great way to reinforce your point. You can also do that with the majority of actors.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 07:48:41 PMOkay so I guess all the critical acclaim he's received and award wins/nominations count for nothing. He stole every scene he was in in dallas buyers club
Don't exaggerate. Mateo McConaughey was THE man in that movie 8)
He was the man but if you think back leto wasn't in it that much but everytime he was it was awesomely funny. I forgot American Psycho which he was also good in. Bottom line is if he picked this film then its going to be good.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 08:40:22 PMHe was the man but if you think back leto wasn't in it that much but everytime he was it was awesomely funny. I forgot American Psycho which he was also good in. Bottom line is if he picked this film then its going to be good.
I thought he did a very good acting, and it's even more surprising how he became such a different character to his true persona, but his role in the movie didn't give him much to shine.
I think Jared Let's phenomenal track record speaks for itself.
I can't believe that we're probably getting the best ensemble cast of the current generations of mainstream-actors and people just keep on nagging about it... you guys wouldn't even be happy if the joker would be playing himself ::)
Quote from: Magegg on Dec 03, 2014, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 08:40:22 PMHe was the man but if you think back leto wasn't in it that much but everytime he was it was awesomely funny. I forgot American Psycho which he was also good in. Bottom line is if he picked this film then its going to be good.
I thought he did a very good acting, and it's even more surprising how he became such a different character to his true persona, but his role in the movie didn't give him much to shine.
He shined enough to win an Oscar for best supporting actor.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Dec 03, 2014, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 08:40:22 PMHe was the man but if you think back leto wasn't in it that much but everytime he was it was awesomely funny. I forgot American Psycho which he was also good in. Bottom line is if he picked this film then its going to be good.
I thought he did a very good acting, and it's even more surprising how he became such a different character to his true persona, but his role in the movie didn't give him much to shine.
He shined enough to win an Oscar for best supporting actor.
This
Quote from: Tangakkai on Dec 03, 2014, 08:51:29 PM
I think Jared Let's phenomenal track record speaks for itself.
I can't believe that we're probably getting the best ensemble cast of the current generations of mainstream-actors and people just keep on nagging about it... you guys wouldn't even be happy if the joker would be playing himself ::)
Totally agree.
Quote from: xeno-kaname on Dec 03, 2014, 09:30:54 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Dec 03, 2014, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 08:40:22 PMHe was the man but if you think back leto wasn't in it that much but everytime he was it was awesomely funny. I forgot American Psycho which he was also good in. Bottom line is if he picked this film then its going to be good.
I thought he did a very good acting, and it's even more surprising how he became such a different character to his true persona, but his role in the movie didn't give him much to shine.
He shined enough to win an Oscar for best supporting actor.
This
And McConaughey was still much superior.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Dec 03, 2014, 08:51:29 PM
I think Jared Let's phenomenal track record speaks for itself.
I can't believe that we're probably getting the best ensemble cast of the current generations of mainstream-actors and people just keep on nagging about it... you guys wouldn't even be happy if the joker would be playing himself ::)
I'm sorry what?? calm down ::)
The cast for this is almost perfect. The only outlier is Smith who is probably gonna swing his dick around, because hes Will Smith.
I know nothing about these characters beyond the Joker and a little bit about Harley Quinn, but I have no problem at all with the casting. Between the actors and the director, the movie actually has my interest piqued.
Its gonna be sick. Villains acting as anti-heroes blowing shit up. Of course they aren't going to get along at the start, if I am a betting man they wont become the Suicide Squad until the end. :laugh:
Screw suicide squad go make (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.comicvine.com%2Fuploads%2Foriginal%2F3%2F31666%2F862421-secret_six.jpg&hash=39519cacb8b4748c5895cd0301bfffe9059db563)
I don't think they will be anti-heroes. I think they will be plain assholes just like in Assault on Arkham. Maybe one or two of them shows a noble side by the end, but not all of them...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5QyAhr3b5E#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5QyAhr3b5E#ws)
the oscars are political . people campaign to get nominated . dallas buyers club is bull shit. that movie is cowardly portraying a false reflection of someone who in reality was a flaming homosexual who got aids from unprotected gay sex with lots of cowboys . not hookers with heroin problems . that movie is unwatchable if you think about how phoney and political it was to change the story so much. im still unimpressed with jared leto's casting but i hope he proves me wrong because i love the joker and dont want to lower the bar from ledgers joker . >:(
we congratulate and award millionaires for portraying stereotypes by gaining weight or getting skinny. it's ridiculous
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 09:01:00 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Dec 03, 2014, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 03, 2014, 08:40:22 PMHe was the man but if you think back leto wasn't in it that much but everytime he was it was awesomely funny. I forgot American Psycho which he was also good in. Bottom line is if he picked this film then its going to be good.
I thought he did a very good acting, and it's even more surprising how he became such a different character to his true persona, but his role in the movie didn't give him much to shine.
He shined enough to win an Oscar for best supporting actor.
adrian brody with the clown nose as joker or phoenix with the hair lip and hair line would of been visually better. they are gonna sexy up the joker ... get girls to buy tickets :-\
EXCLUSIVE: Viola Davis Bags Amanda Waller Role In 'Suicide Squad'
http://www.latino-review.com/news/exclusive-viola-davis-bags-amanda-waller-role-in-suicide-squad (http://www.latino-review.com/news/exclusive-viola-davis-bags-amanda-waller-role-in-suicide-squad)
Quote from: ace3g on Dec 17, 2014, 05:36:42 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Viola Davis Bags Amanda Waller Role In 'Suicide Squad'
http://www.latino-review.com/news/exclusive-viola-davis-bags-amanda-waller-role-in-suicide-squad (http://www.latino-review.com/news/exclusive-viola-davis-bags-amanda-waller-role-in-suicide-squad)
She definitely looks the part. :)
She better start eating lard burgers.
The Amanda Waller casting has pretty much 100% confirmed that the Green Lantern movie is not the same universe, if there was even still any doubt at this point.
as for eating "lard burgers" I think Davis looks fine as she is, I never liked the huge Amanda Waller, and I'm not a fan of skinny Waller either. Just someone with a bit of meat on their bones if fine by me.
Quote from: Magegg on Dec 17, 2014, 07:01:34 AM
She better start eating lard burgers.
She better start starving herself.
Great casting choice. ;D
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 17, 2014, 06:06:35 PM
Great casting choice. ;D
At least they're sticking to the source material.
It seems like someone on Reddit has seen the first drafts of the script and early concept art (http://capedcrusades.com/2014/12/21/rumor-suicide-squad-details-leaked/). Take this with much skepticism.
Isn't it confirmed that it's deadshot and not deathstroke. I smell poo
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Dec 21, 2014, 10:18:07 PM
Isn't it confirmed that it's deadshot and not deathstroke. I smell poo
Yeah. How did the site not pick up on that either?
Tom Hardy has dropped out of the film. (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/tom-hardy-drops-suicide-squad-764095)
Pity, but he deserves a better and more prominent spot in the squad. He should have gotten Deathstroke.
they are eyeing Jake Gyllenhall to take his place, so it's not a total loss, they are on par as far as acting talent goes.
I think at this point in their careers, Gyllenhall has slightly more props. Locke and Lawless both were fantastic performances by Hardy but Gyllenhall has just shown slightly more diversity so far.
I read Hardy dropped because the shootings of The Revenant had their schedule extended.
I still like to see Deathstroke in the movie but I don't think that will happen anytime soon. I would like to see Ron Perlman as Deathstroke.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.comicvine.com%2Fuploads%2Foriginal%2F11%2F119060%2F3056507-4991445849-3533L.jpg&hash=baf7f3fd21b6cb2d321c709b883e962946a790e6)
New Rumors about two actors possibly up for Rick Flagg, both are good choices to me. A little more about Gary Sinise being possibly cast, and a possible role for Deathstroke!
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=114062 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=114062)
Bernthal pls.
Nicolas Cage.
Bernthal as Deathstroke and Cage as Flag please. Bernthal is great and Cage is life.
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Really looking forward to this one. I'm a big Harley Quinn fan and I missed her at The Dar Knight so bad (would've loved if Brittany Murphy had portrayed her in it).
I can't stand Will Smith. He's a miserable actor and also doesn't fit in this movie and especially in the role of Deadshot. (Why do they cast black guys for white roles at all?)
Quinn and Joker are chosen wisely though. Gyllenhal and Hardy would be superb on this movie. I just hope they lose Smith somehow. Also David Ayer made such a bad movie with "Fury". Probably the worst movie 2014.
Still excited to see how it's working out.
Sweet. All coming together. 8)
Quote from: vikingr on Jan 31, 2015, 09:24:08 PMI can't stand Will Smith. He's a miserable actor
A miserable Oscar-winning actor.
Quote from: vikingr on Jan 31, 2015, 09:24:08 PMand also doesn't fit in this movie and especially in the role of Deadshot. (Why do they cast black guys for white roles at all?)
Because who the f**k cares. Only nitpicky whiny bitches ;)
Quote from: vikingr on Jan 31, 2015, 09:24:08 PM
(Why do they cast black guys for white roles at all?)
What does this have to do with anything you just said. Show a little class, man, you complained about Will Smith as an actor, just cut it off at that.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 01, 2015, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: vikingr on Jan 31, 2015, 09:24:08 PM
(Why do they cast black guys for white roles at all?)
What does this have to do with anything you just said. Show a little class, man, you complained about Will Smith as an actor, just cut it off at that.
And that statement regarding "Fury" being the worst movie of 2014 couldn't be further from the truth. It made a profit and it got good reviews on RT. I count three asinine statements/opinions in one post.
Yeah, Fury was my second favorite of 2014.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2015, 08:32:43 PM
Yeah, Fury was my second favorite of 2014.
Indeed, besides "Alexander", I can't think of a bad Brad Pitt movie. I'm sure there are some that were less than ideal but the guy does have a good track record.
World War Z :-X
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 01, 2015, 05:14:30 PM
A miserable Oscar-winning actor.
I don't say an actor is good or bad because of the amount of Oscars he or she won, but about the acting skills I recognize. And btw are there much more important achievements than f**king Oscars anyway.
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 01, 2015, 05:14:30 PM
Because who the f**k cares. Only nitpicky whiny bitches ;)
Like the ones who complain about slightly different looking aliens in Aliens in comparison to Alien: Resurrection or AvP: Requiem? Just a point of view.
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 01, 2015, 07:13:39 PM
What does this have to do with anything you just said. Show a little class, man, you complained about Will Smith as an actor, just cut it off at that.
I don't blame them for casting black actors. He could have played Black Manta instead, but just as I stated before: Just a point of view. Doesn't has anything to do with class.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 01, 2015, 07:51:48 PM
And that statement regarding "Fury" being the worst movie of 2014 couldn't be further from the truth. It made a profit and it got good reviews on RT. I count three asinine statements/opinions in one post.
Don't getting the difference between "good" and "succesful" is what I call asinine. And of course RT is the one and only site which reviews count. I'm not supposed to got my own opinion, if it's different to RT's review.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2015, 08:32:43 PM
Yeah, Fury was my second favorite of 2014.
'Murrican, huh?
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Feb 01, 2015, 08:45:57 PM
Indeed, besides "Alexander", I can't think of a bad Brad Pitt movie. I'm sure there are some that were less than ideal but the guy does have a good track record.
You too, right? :D I count about 7-8 good movies with Brad Pitt as an actor. Out of about 50 it isn't a good rate, I think. Not counting "Killing them softly" the last good was produced 15 years ago ("Snatch").
"Fury" is just a patriotic movie filled with tons of pathos. Let's see the facts:
An American tank crew with a damaged tank without ammo against 300 SS soldiers fully equipped, sure thing. Murrica wins! This is just hilarious and while the reviews in the States maybe positive, in Europe it received much worse reviews.
Here is a review you can trust: http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/17/review-fury-movie/ (http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/11/17/review-fury-movie/)
And a small picture which summarizes the core of the movie:
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PS: This is all my opinion! Not Rottentomatoes', IMDB's or the opinion of the jury of the Academy Awards!
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 01, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 01, 2015, 07:13:39 PM
What does this have to do with anything you just said. Show a little class, man, you complained about Will Smith as an actor, just cut it off at that.
I don't blame them for casting black actors. He could have played Black Manta instead, but just as I stated before: Just a point of view. Doesn't has anything to do with class.
Yeah it does. You needlessly bringing up race as an issue with the casting is a lack of class. Why can't they cast black guys for white roles? Do you have a legitimate reason why Deadshot should not be portrayed by a black actor?
Because the comic character Deadshot is white. Just as the Kingpin (http://"http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/d0/4bc78b9d403e9/detail.jpg") is.
I don't say a black actor should not appear in the movie. Black Manta would be a predestined role for a black actor, being a black comic character appearing in the Suicide Squad. No reason to twist things up. I would hate it the other way around the same (white actor for black comic character). You don't get sucked into it, the movie won't be authentic for someone who read the comics before. Just as the issues with the look of the aliens in A:R, AvP:R etc.
But I still don't want to see a Will Smith in it.
I think it's for the easy reason Will Smith was the best known actor they could get and Deadshot being the most important character in the comics. Smith won't play anything but the lead role, while the studios won't give up such a well known actor. Stupid s**t which ruins movies because of the money.
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 01, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
"Fury" is just a patriotic movie filled with tons of pathos. Let's see the facts:
An American tank crew with a damaged tank without ammo against 300 SS soldiers fully equipped, sure thing. Murrica wins! This is just hilarious and while the reviews in the States maybe positive, in Europe it received much worse reviews.
If you think
Fury is a propaganda piece, then you went into it looking for that. A propaganda piece would not have been as morally ambiguous as that movie was.
QuoteQuote from: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2015, 08:32:43 PM
Yeah, Fury was my second favorite of 2014.
'Murrican, huh?
Oh, so you're a bigot, then. Good, now I know not to take you seriously.
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 01, 2015, 10:24:27 PM
Because the comic character Deadshot is white. Just as the Kingpin (http://"http://x.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/d0/4bc78b9d403e9/detail.jpg") is.
I don't say a black actor should not appear in the movie. Black Manta would be a predestined role for a black actor, being a black comic character appearing in the Suicide Squad. No reason to twist things up. I would hate it the other way around the same (white actor for black comic character). You don't get sucked into it, the movie won't be authentic for someone who read the comics before. Just as the issues with the look of the aliens in A:R, AvP:R etc.
But I still don't want to see a Will Smith in it.
I think it's for the easy reason Will Smith was the best known actor they could get and Deadshot being the most important character in the comics. Smith won't play anything but the lead role, while the studios won't give up such a well known actor. Stupid s**t which ruins movies because of the money.
I understand you not wanting to see Will Smith. And no, I'm not stating that you don't want a black actor to appear in the movie. If you looked at what I've been saying, I was taking issue with your notion that black actors should not portray white characters.
Black actor playing a white characters don't have to be a "twist." After all, they should still act the same, and be the same character in essence. Just different skin-color wise. Deadshot's whiteness aint a fundamental part of who he is. But okay. I'm not going to argue this point further. Your opinion is your opinion.
@MrSpaceJockey:
Thumps up for leavig my opinion my opinion (no sarcasm).
I'm not a fan of everyone is equal. We aren't equal, we got different heritages, different cultures and stuff and we should respect that. Everyone is worth the same, but we are not equal. The creative mind behind Deadshot thought of him as a white guy and nobody should skrew the work by twisting stuff. And maybe a black actor would act the same as Deadshot would, but he never would look the same. It's often about the little things like skin colour. And this is even very eye jumping.
@KiramidHead:
Yeah, a bit provocative I admit. But I really think the American guy in general would like the movie more than someone with more distance.
I think it's propaganda with some weird ambigous contents to not look like the ordinary propaganda piece. Just a bad movie overall.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2015, 10:33:42 PM
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 01, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
"Fury" is just a patriotic movie filled with tons of pathos. Let's see the facts:
An American tank crew with a damaged tank without ammo against 300 SS soldiers fully equipped, sure thing. Murrica wins! This is just hilarious and while the reviews in the States maybe positive, in Europe it received much worse reviews.
If you think Fury is a propaganda piece, then you went into it looking for that. A propaganda piece would not have been as morally ambiguous as that movie was.
QuoteQuote from: KiramidHead on Feb 01, 2015, 08:32:43 PM
Yeah, Fury was my second favorite of 2014.
'Murrican, huh?
Oh, so you're a bigot, then. Good, now I know not to take you seriously.
Fury is a bullshit movie but that's what Ayer does. I judged Fury before I went into but came out really enjoying it. Ayer does action in an impressive and nerve jangling way. Hes going to nail this as well
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 01, 2015, 10:45:11 PMAnd maybe a black actor would act the same as Deadshot would, but he never would look the same. It's often about the little things like skin colour. And this is even very eye jumping.
I usually go to the theater caring about watching a good movie, not about something that looks 100% like the comic books. Character costumes are often redesigned for a movie, why and how would be relevant such a little thing like the skin color... Of a character whose skin most of the time you cannot even see in the comics?
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Depends on the comics you read. In the Suicide Squad comics you'll see often his face at least.
And believe me, if Smith plays Deadshot you will see Smith' face often!
For you it may seem not relevant. For others it may seem not relevant how exactly the aliens look, but you still got some nitpicking guys over here, because they pay attention to details. And I do it at both points. Live with that.
Edit: I'm not a big fan of redesigning costumes, but I understand, that some might look awkward in a life action movie.
And a good example which may clarify my position: Seymour Hoffman wouldn't been chosen even if he's able to portray almost everyone just because he doesn't fit into the role. (I know he's dead)
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 02, 2015, 12:27:06 PM
More like "laugh at that" ;D
Feel free, laughing is healthy. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScYmZj4kBlE#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScYmZj4kBlE#ws)
I just recognized the Suicide Squad appeared in an episode of Arrow. I hope they won't look any similar to this:
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Comic book heroes/characters were created in a time when the west was predominantly racist. They are a reflection of their Time (Kal-El, the classical jewish immigrant; Bruce Wayne, the old fashioned billioinaire with 1 gigantic house in 1 city, etc. etc.)
Times change, and so should the skin colour/heritage of a comic book character. Not because of political correctness, but because Heroes should be a reflection of their time. Walk your streets, the day when only white people walked around those streets are over.
Does this mean certain roles should be coloured for the sake of it? Or should a black character like black manta be shoehorned into a movie just because it's political correct? Hell no! It means that the best actor gets the job at the audition and it should be regardless of his skin colour. I want talent on the screen, not the "exact look".
Should Slade Wilson/Deadshot/Joker, etc. always be white because a guy 40-60 years ago said so? No! Get the best actor of your time, period.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Feb 09, 2015, 03:46:28 PM
Comic book heroes/characters were created in a time when the west was predominantly racist. They are a reflection of their Time (Kal-El, the classical jewish immigrant;
There I stopped reading.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Feb 09, 2015, 03:46:28 PM
Should Slade Wilson/Deadshot/Joker, etc. always be white because a guy 40-60 years ago said so? No! Get the best actor of your time, period.
Not any guy, but the creator should. So yeah, that's how I would prefer it.
I dont like that Will Smith is playing deadshot-period.
ROBOCOP Star Joel Kinnaman Frontrunner To Play 'Rick Flagg' In SUICIDE SQUADQuoteIt looks like Suicide Squad has finally found its Rick Flagg, with Joel Kinnaman said to be the frontrunner to take on the role in Fury director David Ayer's 2016 DC Comics adaptation. There were rumours that Tom Hardy departed the project due to his character not having a particularly large role, but the official explanation is that it came down to scheduling issues caused by shooting The Revenant and promotional duties for Mad Max: Fury Road. It very much sounds like this is all but a done deal, so expect to possibly hear something official about Kinnaman playing Flagg soon. However, The Hollywood Reporter says that Joel Edgerton (Warrior) and Jon Bernthal (The Walking Dead are also being considered. The rest of the Suicide Squad cast includes Will Smith, Margot Robbie, Jared Leto, Jai Courtney, Cara Delevigne and likely Viola Davis and Jesse Eisenberg too. The movie will be released on August 5th next year. Who would you guys like to see take on the role?
Source: The Wrap (http://www.thewrap.com/joel-kinnaman-eyed-to-replace-tom-hardy-in-wbs-suicide-squad/)
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 01, 2015, 10:13:46 PM
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 01, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Feb 01, 2015, 07:13:39 PM
What does this have to do with anything you just said. Show a little class, man, you complained about Will Smith as an actor, just cut it off at that.
I don't blame them for casting black actors. He could have played Black Manta instead, but just as I stated before: Just a point of view. Doesn't has anything to do with class.
Yeah it does. You needlessly bringing up race as an issue with the casting is a lack of class. Why can't they cast black guys for white roles? Do you have a legitimate reason why Deadshot should not be portrayed by a black actor?
Because these characters have history behind them and that's the way they were created, changing the race is simply a lazy attempt to cater for political correctness and pander to a demographic. You can't even call it diversity because when they do make these changes they always cast a black person lol! what about every other race of people??
The recent casting in F4 is a solid example of messing up the whole backstory of two characters by making a needless alteration which wasn't even required.
There are various superhero characters that are not white, use them! People moan about there not being any black superhero movies...so make Black Panther! its sitting right there waiting!
Oh and Will Smith is an outdated terrible actor who simply doesn't fit this role. The man was a 90's star, that time has past.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Feb 09, 2015, 03:46:28 PM
Comic book heroes/characters were created in a time when the west was predominantly racist. They are a reflection of their Time (Kal-El, the classical jewish immigrant; Bruce Wayne, the old fashioned billioinaire with 1 gigantic house in 1 city, etc. etc.)
Times change, and so should the skin colour/heritage of a comic book character. Not because of political correctness, but because Heroes should be a reflection of their time. Walk your streets, the day when only white people walked around those streets are over.
Does this mean certain roles should be coloured for the sake of it? Or should a black character like black manta be shoehorned into a movie just because it's political correct? Hell no! It means that the best actor gets the job at the audition and it should be regardless of his skin colour. I want talent on the screen, not the "exact look".
Should Slade Wilson/Deadshot/Joker, etc. always be white because a guy 40-60 years ago said so? No! Get the best actor of your time, period.
Errmm...that kinda depends where you live matey, believe it or not that statement is inaccurate which I'm sure will horrify you ::)
And that's exactly what's happening...Fantastic 4 reboot for one.
Pardon me, I mean of course if you live in any major/ relevant city ;) ;D
How could you possibly know? Where you there at the casting? Well Michael B. Jordan is a very talented actor, I have no doubt that he was very convincing during the audition, so that's very good by me.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Feb 14, 2015, 12:14:53 AM
Pardon me, I mean of course if you live in any major/ relevant city ;) ;D
How could you possibly know? Where you there at the casting? Well Michael B. Jordan is a very talented actor, I have no doubt that he was very convincing during the audition, so that's very good by me.
I'm sure he was but changing the characters race upsets the backstory and for what reason? because the director is very good friends with him, that's one reason why -_-
As you said yourself,
'Does this mean certain roles should be coloured for the sake of it?'. Well I firmly believe this was simply for the sake of it as it doesn't improve or fix anything...it just messes with things needlessly.
If there was a legitimate reason then fine...but there isn't, there was no reason for it.
There's nothing at all important about Johnny Storm before he became Human Torch. You're complaining about upsetting something that doesn't really matter.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 14, 2015, 06:10:41 AM
There's nothing at all important about Johnny Storm before he became Human Torch. You're complaining about upsetting something that doesn't really matter.
Could say that but I still ask...why change it? what purpose does it serve other than to look PC. Unfortunately that's how it will always be looked upon because the alteration is pointless.
I'm absolutely with Hubbs here. It's just for the sake of money (and maybe their friendship). Just a very bad choice overall. And I'm afraid that this choice will ruin the whole movie.
So you think he is a bad actor (in which case I suppose you have not seen fruitvale station) or do you think that the skin colour of an actor can ruin a movie? Woow... just... wooow
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 14, 2015, 07:55:53 AM
I'm absolutely with Hubbs here. It's just for the sake of money (and maybe their friendship). Just a very bad choice overall. And I'm afraid that this choice will ruin the whole movie.
I don't think that casting will ruin the movie...I don't think the movie will need any help with that (generic :D) could be wrong.
I just think it annoys people (not all obviously) because as I've said its completely pointless and wasn't required. I mean if you take Smith as Deadshot, its bad casting but its just a straight swap as it were, I don't believe there are any further messy story ripples from that change.
With this F4 change it actually hinders the backstory of the character/s, it doesn't improve or assist, it messes up what's already in place...so it was a bad move.
@Hubbs
I know what you mean, it's a movie which you can easily screw up and hardly make good (I don't like most of the comic live action movies). But for the case the movie is good overall, Smith could ruin it being the lead actor.
@Tangakkai
Smith could ruin the movie with his acting. Being black in a white character's role could help ruining it a bit though.
Smith was twice nominated for an oscar, he is overqualified for the role of Deadshot. You'll probably get the best Deadshot that is possible with current casting choices.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Feb 14, 2015, 05:30:53 PM
Smith was twice nominated for an oscar, he is overqualified for the role of Deadshot. You'll probably get the best Deadshot that is possible with current casting choices.
Oscars don't say anything about the actor besides being famous. If you take prizes in account Palme d'Or would be a more valid example, at least imho.
There are tons of better actors than Smith is. Many newcomers who never won prizes at all too.
I would like to answer every single reply in this thread, but I think it can all be summed up in a single phrase and here me aloud:
YOU ARE f**kING RACIST.
Quite.
Doesn't matter if they can encapsulate a characters ideals, mannerisms, do justice to what the creator intended or invent a fresh, solid interpritation; if they're not white gtfo.
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 14, 2015, 08:18:00 PM
I would like to answer every single reply in this thread, but I think it can all be summed up in a single phrase and here me aloud:
YOU ARE f**kING RACIST.
I can sum up your reply in two words...explain why.
I can go one step further and say...you can't explain why because your reply is a typical knee-jerk reaction on a one way street.
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 14, 2015, 06:57:25 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on Feb 14, 2015, 05:30:53 PM
Smith was twice nominated for an oscar, he is overqualified for the role of Deadshot. You'll probably get the best Deadshot that is possible with current casting choices.
Oscars don't say anything about the actor besides being famous. If you take prizes in account Palme d'Or would be a more valid example, at least imho.
There are tons of better actors than Smith is. Many newcomers who never won prizes at all too.
Prizes do guarantee the actor is good
at least.
Now you're saying Smith should have a Palme d'Or prize in order to perform as Deathshot? Seriously, get the f**k out.
Quote from: Hubbs on Feb 14, 2015, 08:45:51 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 14, 2015, 08:18:00 PM
I would like to answer every single reply in this thread, but I think it can all be summed up in a single phrase and here me aloud:
YOU ARE f**kING RACIST.
I can sum up your reply in two words...explain why.
I can go one step further and say...you can't explain why because your reply is a typical knee-jerk reaction on a one way street.
I just can't believe people's focusing that much on race. Specially when the discussion is not going anywhere, the actor is already cast, we're changing nothing, we cannot state if this was a bad or a good cast because we haven't even seen the movie, just f**king drop the predujices and specially stop talking about race.
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 14, 2015, 08:48:59 PM
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 14, 2015, 06:57:25 PM
Quote from: Tangakkai on Feb 14, 2015, 05:30:53 PM
Smith was twice nominated for an oscar, he is overqualified for the role of Deadshot. You'll probably get the best Deadshot that is possible with current casting choices.
Oscars don't say anything about the actor besides being famous. If you take prizes in account Palme d'Or would be a more valid example, at least imho.
There are tons of better actors than Smith is. Many newcomers who never won prizes at all too.
Prizes do guarantee the actor is good at least.
Now you're saying Smith should have a Palme d'Or prize in order to perform as Deathshot? Seriously, get the f**k out.
Quote from: Hubbs on Feb 14, 2015, 08:45:51 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 14, 2015, 08:18:00 PM
I would like to answer every single reply in this thread, but I think it can all be summed up in a single phrase and here me aloud:
YOU ARE f**kING RACIST.
I can sum up your reply in two words...explain why.
I can go one step further and say...you can't explain why because your reply is a typical knee-jerk reaction on a one way street.
I just can't believe people's focusing that much on race. Specially when the discussion is not going anywhere, the actor is already cast, we're changing nothing, we cannot state if this was a bad or a good cast because we haven't even seen the movie, just f**king drop the predujices and specially stop talking about race.
Yeah I understand that but people will talk about casting decisions until the film comes out, just like anything else in the movie. If the film is tops then people forget about it (almost), if the film bombs then people will moan even more about it.
Again I understand what your saying but there will be many people who are fanboys of these characters and simply don't agree with the changes made, like any movie. You can't avoid that when changes are made (especially when they are kinda pointless ;)).
You can't accuse people of being racist because they don't agree with you. If you reverse the situation and a black character like
Blade or
Luke Cage was changed and you didn't agree, would you say you were being racist or you simply didn't like the idea?
Quote from: Hubbs on Feb 14, 2015, 08:59:17 PMYeah I understand that but people will talk about casting decisions until the film comes out, just like anything else in the movie.
Yeah, I think people can complain when a great role is giving to a weak actor (example Wonder Gadot), but Will Smith's a f**king great actor, or at least way away from being a bad one.
This kid saying he cannot play Deadshot unless he has won a Palm d'Or, seriously get the f**k out, that's one extreme of ridicule. He is really complaining nothing else than the skin tone!
Quote from: Hubbs on Feb 14, 2015, 08:59:17 PMIf you reverse the situation and a black character like Blade or Luke Cage was changed and you didn't agree, would you say you were being racist or you simply didn't like the idea?
That's still being racist.
The thing with a lot of black characters is that they were created with their blackness as a key part of their story. Luke Cage was a blaxploitation character through and through, and Blade's early appearances had him saying "dig" every other word. :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 14, 2015, 09:59:58 PM
The thing with a lot of black characters is that they were created with their blackness as a key part of their story. Luke Cage was a blaxploitation character through and through, and Blade's early appearances had him saying "dig" every other word. :laugh:
You could say the same thing for many white superhero characters also, its frustrating that this argument always has double standards. Its OK one way but not the other -_-
If by saiyng that I dont like will smith as Deadshot/ dont like him being cast I am racist- So BE IT !
There was a south park episode-about the town flag being racist-go watch it.
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 14, 2015, 09:37:52 PM.
This kid saying he cannot play Deadshot unless he has won a Palm d'Or, seriously get the f**k out, that's one extreme of ridicule. He is really complaining nothing else than the skin tone!.
Please read more carefully. What I said was: Prizes don't say anything at all. It's mostly about politics and connections. If you take a film prize into account it shouldn't be an Oscar. A Palme d'Or would be more valid when it comes to the question if someone is really a good actor.
Of course the character of Deadshot doesn't need an award winning actor, because I said award winning actors are not automatically good actors.
But anyways, keep insulting.
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 15, 2015, 03:38:12 PMPlease read more carefully. What I said was: Prizes don't say anything at all. It's mostly about politics and connections. If you take a film prize into account it shouldn't be an Oscar. A Palme d'Or would be more valid when it comes to the question if someone is really a good actor.
The fact is, the only reason you're starting to even question Smith's acting abilities is because of the skin tone. Seems like a desperate attempt to find any reason to mask your racism. Seriously, man, it sucks.
You got a kick-ass actor to play a B-tier comic book character, you should be freaking happy instead of complaining about the skin tone.
Isn't deadshot black in assault on arkham? Why the hell is no one talking about Cara Delevigne? Has she ever even acted?
Guys, chill. Magegg, you are by all means right, but I suggest you use more polite language.
I agree anyway -- don't see any problem in Smith playing Deadshot. Is everyone seriously worried because they are changing the character's ethnicity? It's happened before, both in new comics and films. It's a nonexistent deal.
Quote from: Omegazilla on Feb 15, 2015, 05:15:53 PM
Guys, chill. Magegg, you are by all means right, but I suggest you use more polite language.
I agree anyway -- don't see any problem in Smith playing Deadshot. Is everyone seriously worried because they are changing the character's ethnicity? It's happened before, both in new comics and films. It's a nonexistent deal.
I think the main issue here is basically they have cast a big name because they want an attractive line up, they aren't really thinking who or what's best for that character in question.
This is why I personally liked
Watchmen because that line up wasn't well known (to me at least). Could you imagine Will Smith in
Watchmen??! now can you imagine Will Smith in this possible dark toned flick? exactly.
Smith has played gunslingers before, has played badass characters before, and it's a great actor.
Deadshot is a B villain, not someone iconic, so there's a lot of things you have freedom to change. Period.
So I have a question....is this set in the same universe as the Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman movies?
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 15, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
So I have a question....is this set in the same universe as the Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman movies?
Yes.
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 15, 2015, 04:08:32 PM
The fact is, the only reason you're starting to even question Smith's acting abilities is because of the skin tone. Seems like a desperate attempt to find any reason to mask your racism. Seriously, man, it sucks.
You got a kick-ass actor to play a B-tier comic book character, you should be freaking happy instead of complaining about the skin tone.
You want me to be racist, because you can not accept my opinion about Will Smith's bad acting. In your eyes he's so fabulous, if somebody doesn't like him, he got to be a racist. I told you I don't like him as an actor and don't think he is good AND that I don't understand why they take a black guy for a white role, which has nothing to do with Smith's acting skills. I even wrote that in brackets, so that everybody can recognize it's not my main point I complain about.
You only read what you want to read and not what I'm writing.
And using the word "period" doesn't make your argument more valid, nor does it shut my mouth. Period.
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 15, 2015, 08:30:15 PMYou want me to be racist, because you can not accept my opinion about Will Smith's bad acting.
There's an unanimous critical opinion that he is a great actor, or at least a good one. So no, I would never accept your opinion, you don't like his acting, OK, but that's your personal taste, generally he's praised as an actor, so your opinion is little relevant.
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 15, 2015, 08:30:15 PMif somebody doesn't like him, he got to be a racist. I told you I don't like him as an actor and don't think he is good AND that I don't understand why they take a black guy for a white role, which has nothing to do with Smith's acting skills.
I don't see you complaining on a bad actor playing Boomerang, who is yet another B-villain. The only difference between those casts is:
A.- Smith is considered a much superior actor.
2.- Smith's skin is dark.
What could be your objection..? Mmmmh... I don't know why but I have the feeling if the actor was bad or mediocre (like Boomerang's) but the skin tone was white, you wouldn't be complaining...
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 15, 2015, 08:55:36 PM
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 15, 2015, 08:30:15 PMYou want me to be racist, because you can not accept my opinion about Will Smith's bad acting.
There's an unanimous critical opinion that he is a great actor, or at least a good one. So no, I would never accept your opinion, you don't like his acting, OK, but that's your personal taste, generally he's praised as an actor, so your opinion is little relevant.
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 15, 2015, 08:30:15 PMif somebody doesn't like him, he got to be a racist. I told you I don't like him as an actor and don't think he is good AND that I don't understand why they take a black guy for a white role, which has nothing to do with Smith's acting skills.
I don't see you complaining on a bad actor playing Boomerang, who is yet another B-villain. The only difference between those casts is:
A.- Smith is considered a much superior actor.
2.- Smith's skin is dark.
What could be your objection..? Mmmmh... I don't know why but I have the feeling if the actor was bad or mediocre (like Boomerang's) but the skin tone was white, you wouldn't be complaining...
Well if the bad/average actor was white it would be more accurate to the source material/comic origins ;) just saying.
Hubbs, come on now. It's irrelevant.
Quote from: Laufey on Feb 15, 2015, 07:01:56 PM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 15, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
So I have a question....is this set in the same universe as the Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman movies?
Yes.
Thank you for the answer.
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 15, 2015, 08:55:36 PM
I don't see you complaining on a bad actor playing Boomerang, who is yet another B-villain. The only difference between those casts is:
A.- Smith is considered a much superior actor.
2.- Smith's skin is dark.
What could be your objection..? Mmmmh... I don't know why but I have the feeling if the actor was bad or mediocre (like Boomerang's) but the skin tone was white, you wouldn't be complaining...
I don't like Smith so it got to be because of his skin color, it's so obvious isn't it? Or maybe because he's supporting criminals like Scientology (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/17/will-smith-gives-122500-t_n_151873.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/17/will-smith-gives-122500-t_n_151873.html))?
You seem very small-minded to me to say the least.
I actually never care about the actor of Boomerang because he's not as important as Deadshot, I don't know the actor who's playing Boomerang and I don't like Will Smith.
And Hubbs is still right!
Quote from: vikingr on Feb 16, 2015, 07:12:25 AM
Quote from: Magegg on Feb 15, 2015, 08:55:36 PM
I don't see you complaining on a bad actor playing Boomerang, who is yet another B-villain. The only difference between those casts is:
A.- Smith is considered a much superior actor.
2.- Smith's skin is dark.
What could be your objection..? Mmmmh... I don't know why but I have the feeling if the actor was bad or mediocre (like Boomerang's) but the skin tone was white, you wouldn't be complaining...
I don't like Smith so it got to be because of his skin color, it's so obvious isn't it? Or maybe because he's supporting criminals like Scientology (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/17/will-smith-gives-122500-t_n_151873.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/17/will-smith-gives-122500-t_n_151873.html))?
You seem very small-minded to me to say the least.
I actually never care about the actor of Boomerang because he's not as important as Deadshot, I don't know the actor who's playing Boomerang and I don't like Will Smith.
And Hubbs is still right!
Indeed Hubbs is right !
Down with the Smith and his retarted scientology bullshit children !
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Not sure what look they will go for with Deadshot but here is a recent photo of Smith
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-uPYeZUUAAq72O.jpg
Looking just like Will Smith has always looked and will probably look for this movie ;D ::)
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I can't believe this is what he was teasing. It's just a haircut. And it looks to be the fairly standard Joker haircut.
He's not going to give us a full-fledged Joker photo.
However I was expecting a bit more, perhaps later today we might see something else.
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I can't believe this is what he was teasing. It's just a haircut. And it looks to be the fairly standard Joker haircut.
Yeah, but at least it looks like we're getting a "clean" Joker and not a repeat of Ledger's version. :)
I believe Nolan's Joker was going to have short hair, like in some of that creepy concept art, but Ledger asked for the longer, grungier washed out hair.
I hope this Joker has the bleached skin of the comics and no makeup.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=116223 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=116223)
we have hair color now
I can't wait for the full reveal of Harley and the Joker. ;D
some casting rumor news
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Joe-Manganiello-Probably-Suicide-Squad-Get-Details-70258.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Joe-Manganiello-Probably-Suicide-Squad-Get-Details-70258.html)
I'm cool with that 8)
Are you guys really discussing a haircut?? -_-
Are you really going to bug them for that? We're on an Alien vs Predator forum, for Christ's sake, if we didn't love to intensely discuss the shit out of the things we love, we wouldn't be here.
Also, it's been a week since anyone has even mentioned hair. ::)
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Could just be him getting the crowd pumped for the concert
http://batman-news.com/2015/03/21/please-let-this-be-jared-letos-joker-voice-video/ (http://batman-news.com/2015/03/21/please-let-this-be-jared-letos-joker-voice-video/)
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 22, 2015, 03:47:24 AM
Could just be him getting the crowd pumped for the concert
http://batman-news.com/2015/03/21/please-let-this-be-jared-letos-joker-voice-video/ (http://batman-news.com/2015/03/21/please-let-this-be-jared-letos-joker-voice-video/)
That's probably pretty close to what it will be. Sounds good to me.
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new casting rumor news
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=117876 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=117876)
http://www.latino-review.com/news/exclusive-scott-eastwood-to-cameo-as-steve-trevor-in-suicide-sqaud (http://www.latino-review.com/news/exclusive-scott-eastwood-to-cameo-as-steve-trevor-in-suicide-sqaud)
Leto's voice testing again?
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=117962 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=117962)
It looks like Killer Croc is in the film! (http://comicbook.com/2015/03/31/suicide-squad-casts-adewale-akinnuoye-agbaje-as-killer-croc/)
Good thing about Croc being in this is that we will get to see the direction they're taking with the Batman villains in general. Will he be a grounded in reality freak or a supernatural 8 foot crocodile man. I hope the latter really.
Croc was always explained as having a skin disease of some sort.
Yeah but how are they going to portray him beyond that
I want an 8 foot super-freak of nature Crocodile.
As long as he's scaly with pointy teeth, I don't really care.
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Looks like this movie is on good rails :)
f**king fantastic news! Pretty crazy.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=118229 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=118229)
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Was about to post it :laugh:
I don't have anything against emo rockstars, but that's what he looks like. And I don't think it matches the joker.
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 25, 2015, 12:58:14 AM
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Marilyn Manson in prison?
only thing i dont like is the damaged tattoo on his forehead, i'll pass on that for now.
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 25, 2015, 12:58:14 AM
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This isn't the look is it?! :o :-[
This kinda reminds me of that Aquaman unveiling, something similar about all this ::) So far DC has pretty much made most of their iconic characters look nothing like their iconic characters...ah who cares anymore.
All they've really changed are the tattoos and the teeth, and most of the former won't be visible all of the time.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 25, 2015, 05:06:27 AM
All they've really changed are the tattoos and the teeth, and most of the former won't be visible all of the time.
Even if it's not visible, this is the style of Joker they want. Which is just not that great.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 25, 2015, 05:06:27 AM
All they've really changed are the tattoos and the teeth, and most of the former won't be visible all of the time.
Well to be honest they have shown us the tats right, so theoretically you could assume this Joker may well be topless for some of the movie, otherwise why show the tats?
Well one thing's certain, this Joker looks like someone Batfleck would definitely hate. I like the idea that he's already had his teeth punched in.
How come there is no scarred mouth and he is simply pale versus white make up?
Oh those fanboys, butthurt by anything that doesn't stick to their narrow and close-minded fantasy. They're always the worst thing about franchise-movies.
He looks really batshit crazy and psychopathic... I like it. Definitely looks more like the comic book version than Heath Ledger... although so far I prefer Ledger's look.
Well everybody hated the first Ledger pics as well and there were comments like "This will be the shittiest role in the history of batman movies." Well... didn't turn out that way, did it.
So anything is possible. All I can say for now I like the despicable vibe he has going on... and keeping in mind he is one of the most talented young actor I actually don't see why there's anything to worry.
Only shitty thing is that "damaged" head tattoo... very subtle Mr. Ayer ::)
Quote from: tmjhur on Apr 25, 2015, 12:13:37 PM
How come there is no scarred mouth and he is simply pale versus white make up?
Joker never had a scarred mouth. Only in TDK and a couple of comic books. It's not a staple of his
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIuk5zERC78#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIuk5zERC78#ws)
Quote from: Tangakkai on Apr 25, 2015, 12:28:15 PM
Oh those fanboys, butthurt by anything that doesn't stick to their narrow and close-minded fantasy. They're always the worst thing about franchise-movies.
He looks really batshit crazy and psychopathic... I like it. Definitely looks more like the comic book version than Heath Ledger... although so far I prefer Ledger's look.
Well everybody hated the first Ledger pics as well and there were comments like "This will be the shittiest role in the history of batman movies." Well... didn't turn out that way, did it.
So anything is possible. All I can say for now I like the despicable vibe he has going on... and keeping in mind he is one of the most talented young actor I actually don't see why there's anything to worry.
Only shitty thing is that "damaged" head tattoo... very subtle Mr. Ayer ::)
Oh Jesus still harking back to the Ledger fluke ::) lighting in a bottle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkXWI2ipdF4#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkXWI2ipdF4#ws)
shut up Hubbs
the tattoos are a bit excessive, the haha and damaged tatoos are pretty dumb but everything else isn't as bad. I like the idea that his teeth might've got knocked out. Jared Leto is extremely talented, I have no doubts about his ability to give us another great Joker. I doubt he'll be shirtless the entire film anyways.
I have no doubt Leto could be great, but my worries is the writing... Goddamn, they better write a good Joker or this is going to be terrible.
Quote from: Magegg on Apr 25, 2015, 05:54:28 PM
I have no doubt Leto could be great, but my worries is the writing... Goddamn, they better write a good Joker or this is going to be terrible.
Subtlety is not a word that could ever be associated with David Ayer but that's also a word that doesn't correlate to the joker. I can see why this picture might be somewhat divisive but we gotta wait to see what Leto does with the character. My guess is that it's going to be the best villain we've had since Heaths Joker
Jared Leto is a pretty good actor, I have no doubts he'll do okay as the Joker. I just have problems with the look they chose, he looks like the coked up baby of Marilyn Manson and Miley Cyrus. I'm staying cautiously optimistic for this one.
I don't normally use the 'But look at how people were skeptical at Heath Ledger!" thing, but I think it's pretty relevant to this. When the first picture of Heath Joker was released, most people were skeptical because it was, you know, Heath Ledger as The Joker but also because it was just make up on him rather than a chemical reaction that caused his skin to change and he had scars instead of a permanent smile. People have this image of The Joker they've got in their heads and they don't easily warm up to different interpretations.
But I understand that most people aren't necessarily disliking the fact that he's got tattoos, it's just the tattoos themselves that people don't like. They're too obvious or look like something a Joker fan would have rather than Joker himself. I get those complaints but I don't agree with them. I think the tattoos are reasonable. The Jester hat with the skull is the most reasonable because he could have gotten that when he first got the nickname Joker. The Joker's thought process for the 'hahaha's could easily have been 'you know my calling card is to obsessively write hahhaha. That'd make a good tattoo.' The damaged one on his forehead sounds like it him embracing the fact that everyone thinks he's crazy. Nothing feels unrealistic. Real life criminals, even the crazies, get tattoos that are like this.
There's some screamo/emo/heavy metal singer inspiration in there for sure, but it fits. Don't really see why that's an issue (I, by the way, hate those genres of music so that's not the reason why I think the look is good.) But really, I see more of a drug user/drug dealer/gross kind of guy you'll see while driving through the streets in city. There's a very white trashy sort of feel to the look too. So overall I've got no gripes with the look as long as Leto's acting isn't bad. Which will be hard to believe because Leto is a great actor.
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Quote from: ace3g on Apr 25, 2015, 02:32:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIuk5zERC78#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIuk5zERC78#ws)
He's right about the tattoos. I don't think Joker is the type of guy that could patiently wait while getting a tattoo. And the "damaged" just seems so out of touch with how the Joker has been shown since he's existed.
It's not about personal taste. I think it would be a cool look if it wasn't the Joker. But it doesn't fit in with what the Joker is, in EVERY iteration of him.
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The extreme close up makes it seem like a Photoshop job.
Someone posted this on comicbookmovie.com
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QuoteRunning it through Error Level Analysis webapp shows that all the areas where the tattoos are have extra JPEGing than areas without tattoos. This implies that the tattoos are not from the original photo.
Also some are speculating that since it was the 75 year anniversary of the Joker, they added the tats as a tribute to all various aspects of the character
Could be true. There's also an alleged close up set photo of him taken from a monitor. Didn't show any tattoos and a slight Chelsea smil, an inch long cut on the side of his mouth.
Found it here http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=119581 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=119581)
That could be Margot Robbie though
Why would they release pics of the Joker inked up and confuse everyone? If they are just for the special shoot then they possibly did it to see the reaction to decide whether or not to put the tats on him for real...I think.
They have a previous picture with Leto taking a photo, simulating an iconic image from the comics. He had the hair and the white makeup but not the red around the lips. So I think it was generally viewed that that wasn't an official look of him but just some sort of promo picture. I guess this is the same kind of thing and it just got around the web incorrectly. It explains why it looks like it's from a photoshoot for a magazine than the first picture of what The Joker actually looks like. Explains why he's shirtless too. But why didn't anyone clear up the issue since everyone complained about the tattoos.
I do hope the metal teeth are in the final product though. I think it looks effective. And I would hope there is some sort of tattoo in the movie, hopefully tattoos that everyone won't hate. All assuming that this picture is of the official look, of course.
Quote from: evolution_rex on Apr 27, 2015, 12:27:40 AM
They have a previous picture with Leto taking a photo, simulating an iconic image from the comics. He had the hair and the white makeup but not the red around the lips. So I think it was generally viewed that that wasn't an official look of him but just some sort of promo picture. I guess this is the same kind of thing and it just got around the web incorrectly. It explains why it looks like it's from a photoshoot for a magazine than the first picture of what The Joker actually looks like. Explains why he's shirtless too. But why didn't anyone clear up the issue since everyone complained about the tattoos.
I do hope the metal teeth are in the final product though. I think it looks effective. And I would hope there is some sort of tattoo in the movie, hopefully tattoos that everyone won't hate. All assuming that this picture is of the official look, of course.
I would of thought by now someone would have said its not the final product, only leaves me to think it is the final product :/
CGI tattoos, wouldn't surprise anyone.
Wonder if he has metal teeth because Batman punched his teeth out
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 27, 2015, 02:58:40 AM
Quote from: evolution_rex on Apr 27, 2015, 12:27:40 AM
They have a previous picture with Leto taking a photo, simulating an iconic image from the comics. He had the hair and the white makeup but not the red around the lips. So I think it was generally viewed that that wasn't an official look of him but just some sort of promo picture. I guess this is the same kind of thing and it just got around the web incorrectly. It explains why it looks like it's from a photoshoot for a magazine than the first picture of what The Joker actually looks like. Explains why he's shirtless too. But why didn't anyone clear up the issue since everyone complained about the tattoos.
I do hope the metal teeth are in the final product though. I think it looks effective. And I would hope there is some sort of tattoo in the movie, hopefully tattoos that everyone won't hate. All assuming that this picture is of the official look, of course.
I would of thought by now someone would have said its not the final product, only leaves me to think it is the final product :/
Yeah same here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsmKQyXExQU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsmKQyXExQU#ws)
Tattoos and grill may be fake to cover up the scars we've heard about.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=119787 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=119787)
This would make sense as the image was never confirmed by anyone involved to be an official picture of him but a 75th birthday celibrarian.
Deadshot or some kind of superfly pimp?
Hubbs do you think you could stop posting those pictures as attached files? :/
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 30, 2015, 03:55:03 AM
Deadshot or some kind of superfly pimp?
Wtf....I really didn't think they could kill a character this bad..
Quote from: Magegg on Apr 30, 2015, 05:15:56 AM
Hubbs do you think you could stop posting those pictures as attached files? :/
Why what's wrong doing it that way? its easier ;)
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Looks like deadshot
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 30, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
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Looks like deadshot
Gotta lose the bling and I presume he will have the mask?
Looks like his casual outdoors outfit, I'm pretty sure he'll get a mask.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 30, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
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Looks like deadshot
That cartoon image has a more
Van Helsing look, the Will Smith shot has a more Huggy Bear look ::)
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 30, 2015, 03:17:14 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 30, 2015, 02:59:40 PM
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Looks like deadshot
Gotta lose the bling and I presume he will have the mask?
I hope he has the mask and isn't just a marksman. Wrist guns as well
Mask could probably be CGI
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My buddy has the same mask, it's a f**king airsoft mask
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Apr 30, 2015, 11:43:40 PM
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http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee450/poisonstrudel/Templar_zps5kyuyhla.jpg
My buddy has the same mask, it's a f**king airsoft mask
Who or what is that suppose to be?
That's Will Smith's Deadshot wearing a $50 airsoft mask
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on May 01, 2015, 02:49:18 AM
That's Will Smith's Deadshot wearing a $50 airsoft mask
That's his outfit? Deadshot doesn't look like that does he?? or should I be asking which obscure comicbook does he look like that ::)
Quote from: Hubbs on May 01, 2015, 02:51:02 AM
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on May 01, 2015, 02:49:18 AM
That's Will Smith's Deadshot wearing a $50 airsoft mask
That's his outfit? Deadshot doesn't look like that does he?? or should I be asking which obscure comicbook does he look like that ::)
no thats not deadshot. probably someone who attacks him whilst he's with his family. deadshot is a big family man
Yeah, it hasn't been confirmed to be Deadshot yet.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 01, 2015, 02:55:41 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on May 01, 2015, 02:51:02 AM
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on May 01, 2015, 02:49:18 AM
That's Will Smith's Deadshot wearing a $50 airsoft mask
That's his outfit? Deadshot doesn't look like that does he?? or should I be asking which obscure comicbook does he look like that ::)
no thats not deadshot. probably someone who attacks him whilst he's with his family. deadshot is a big family man
You actually may be right, most are thinking that that's Deadshot, but it might also be Deathstroke/Generic Thug
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on May 01, 2015, 03:07:00 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 01, 2015, 02:55:41 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on May 01, 2015, 02:51:02 AM
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on May 01, 2015, 02:49:18 AM
That's Will Smith's Deadshot wearing a $50 airsoft mask
That's his outfit? Deadshot doesn't look like that does he?? or should I be asking which obscure comicbook does he look like that ::)
no thats not deadshot. probably someone who attacks him whilst he's with his family. deadshot is a big family man
You actually may be right, most are thinking that that's Deadshot, but it might also be Deathstroke/Generic Thug
Turns out this was just some random guy trying to get cast
I didn't think that was suppose to be Deadshot, I thought it was just some background grunt extra.
Quote from: evolution_rex on May 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
I didn't think that was suppose to be Deadshot, I thought it was just some background grunt extra.
NOPE! Turns out it's some guy that snuck onto the set :laugh:
https://twitter.com/davidayermovies/status/595000883420749824
OH MY
Quote from: MudButt on May 03, 2015, 11:16:22 PM
https://twitter.com/davidayermovies/status/595000883420749824
OH MY
Unf, that is proper killer croc right there.
Harley Quinn is so hot oh my gosh.
Diggin Deadshot and Cap' Boomerangs look also.
I was hoping Killer Croc would look like the one in Arkham Asylum. Maybe that's his human form in the pic?
I doubt he'll transform. I think in some comics he just had a skin disease, which gave him rough skin like that.
It looks pretty good, glad Killer Croc is practical. Like the look of Deadshot too. Also looks like Harley Quinn has some tattoos, which gives that Leto Joker pic being the actual joker in the film some merit. They all look like interesting characters.
higher res
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I'm fuzzy on the names. Who's who?
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Clay Enos
@ClayEnos
Will Smith as Deadshot in David Ayer's Suicide Squad @wbpictures #SLR (ISO800 85mm 1/250 f... http://ift.tt/1bqLMSl (http://ift.tt/1bqLMSl)
Quote from: Alienseseses on May 04, 2015, 12:54:14 AM
I'm fuzzy on the names. Who's who?
Did it for you:
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Quote from: ace3g on May 04, 2015, 01:05:14 AMWill Smith as Deadshot in David Ayer's Suicide Squad @wbpictures #SLR (ISO800 85mm 1/250 f... http://ift.tt/1bqLMSl (http://ift.tt/1bqLMSl)
So, Arrow's The Atom with a different mask?
Doesn't really bother me, but why when you search Deadshot, are all the pictures of him with the bionic eye on his right eye?
Quote from: ace3g on May 04, 2015, 01:12:03 AM
Doesn't really bother me, but why when you search Deadshot, are all the pictures of him with the bionic eye on his right eye?
Because Superman Prime punches the fabric of time and space.
Last guy might be Zsasz and not Diablo, but Diablo is usually associated with Suicide Squad so it's probably him.
His jacket says Diablo on it.
Yah, he looks like El Diablo from the comics:
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Not really sure what to think of this.
Quote from: Magegg on May 04, 2015, 01:07:03 AM
Quote from: Alienseseses on May 04, 2015, 12:54:14 AM
I'm fuzzy on the names. Who's who?
Did it for you:
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Nice!
Quote from: ace3g on May 04, 2015, 01:05:14 AM
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Clay Enos
@ClayEnos
Will Smith as Deadshot in David Ayer's Suicide Squad @wbpictures #SLR (ISO800 85mm 1/250 f... http://ift.tt/1bqLMSl (http://ift.tt/1bqLMSl)
For some reason I keep fixating on his extremely white hands.
Not really feeling this, can't really put my finger on it.
They look like a bunch of people cosplaying or an image from an upcoming videogame for GTA or whatever. The dude on the far right and Harley especially look like GTA characters. Looks a bit Sin City-esque too.
It all looks very bland, very dull, most of the blokes look the same, no one really stands out and no one really seems recognisable. I like Deadshot's mask but I get the feeling he won't be wearing that much because Will Smith plays the character (he should have the mask on in this group shot I think).
Deadshot does also look a bit random, could be any videogame character or a member of COBRA ;)
As hot as Margot Robbie is her Harley just looks happy and not crazy enough :/
Quote from: Alienseseses on May 04, 2015, 02:18:12 AMWill Smith as Deadshot in David Ayer's Suicide Squad @wbpictures #SLR (ISO800 85mm 1/250 f... http://ift.tt/1bqLMSl (http://ift.tt/1bqLMSl)
For some reason I keep fixating on his extremely white hands.
Dat vitiligo 8)
Quote from: xeno-kaname on May 04, 2015, 02:41:08 AM
As hot as Margot Robbie is her Harley just looks happy and not crazy enough :/
I don't think that's mutually exclusive, might be bipolar and that.
Wow. Killer Croc and Enchantress are home runs. I think they all look great but the picture isn't very good.
Just waiting for deathstroke now
LOL! WB is officially worried about reactions to everything so far in this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SYeUwSC-mI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SYeUwSC-mI#ws)
They have no reason to be worried.
So sure...
How do you like HQ now lol! ::)
Quote from: Hubbs on May 04, 2015, 05:19:17 AM
So sure...
How do you like HQ now lol! ::)
Hawt.
Quote from: Alienseseses on May 04, 2015, 05:05:16 AM
They have no reason to be worried.
Oh yes they do. This is a very risky property in their eyes. Joker was probably one of the biggest forces they had going for this film and it got very mixed reactions. A lot of these characters are pretty unknown to audiences so yeah they're going to worry.
I'm digging Deadshot's suit it's badass but everybody else just look dull. I was excited for Harley but I'm not liking her look much. And I think she'll be getting mixed reactions about her looks like the Joker, so that will not sit well with WB either. Another character they were banking on.
I was looking forward to this movie so much but yeah I'm a bit worried now. Movie's still far away though so there's plenty of t time to ease the doubts.
^^Same scenario with Aquaman. If you showed me this pic with no info whatsoever, I'd never guess it was Harley Quinn.
more set photos
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120029 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120029)
Quote from: Hubbs on May 04, 2015, 05:52:09 AM
^^Same scenario with Aquaman. If you showed me this pic with no info whatsoever, I'd never guess it was Harley Quinn.
Eh Aquaman is way more well known and in the recent decade has become much more of a favorite with re-imaginings of his character. And has the benefit of popping up in BvS. Suicide Squad is basically all new hitters.
Actually getting worse, pic by pic.
Lollipop Chainsaw.
Quote from: Hubbs on May 04, 2015, 02:43:05 PMActually getting worse, pic by pic.
I think you're the only one saying that, I haven't seen many negative reactions towards these pictures.
Quote from: Magegg on May 04, 2015, 03:07:16 PM
Quote from: Hubbs on May 04, 2015, 02:43:05 PMActually getting worse, pic by pic.
I think you're the only one saying that, I haven't seen many negative reactions towards these pictures.
Not from what I've read.
Quote from: Magegg on May 04, 2015, 03:07:16 PM
Quote from: Hubbs on May 04, 2015, 02:43:05 PMActually getting worse, pic by pic.
I think you're the only one saying that, I haven't seen many negative reactions towards these pictures.
I've seen a lot.
The second Harley pic Hubbs put up looked better to me but this latest one looks weird to me again. Guesd it was the angle of the second one.
She looks hot and I like the outfit...but it just isn't Harley Quinn.
Dude... Harley has underwent A LOT of changes since the mid-2000s... The movie version looks consistent with the most recent incarnations.
Quote from: Magegg on May 04, 2015, 03:50:25 PM
Dude... Harley has underwent A LOT of changes since the mid-2000s... The movie version looks consistent with the most recent incarnations.
No she's a mixture of the Arkham video game series Harley and New 52 Harley, which was also inspired by the Arkham games. Arkham Harley is damn perfect to me and yeah she was changed a good amount from her comic book counterpart from that time when Arkham Asylum was released, yet people embraced the changes. But now she looks trapped in the middle of a bunch of different versions of her that somehow makes her feel less like Harley. I understand they wanted to put their own spin on Harley and try to make something original, but see that's when stuff like Xmen Origins Deadpool happens. They should've stuck closer to what worked.
It's not a terrible look just doesn't feel like Harley to me. Her performance might win me over but for now I'm just underwhelmed.
Judging from some new set photos, it seems Deadshot does have his wrist guns 8)
Quote"It's just so exciting to bring a show like this to the street and get out in the real world with the real people" said David Ayer during an exclusive interview with Entertainment City on-set yesterday. "I'm all about real drama, real performance, and real people, so my twist on this is I'm creating a family a brotherhood here. I'm creating a very real chemistry and I have this incredible ensemble of actors led by Will Smith, who are basically playing dimensional characters with lives and souls." Ayer then said that working with the actors is so far the most gratifying aspect of directing the highly-anticipated DC Comics adaptation. "When you feel the performance come through, and the chemistry come through, that can't be beat," he added.
more set pics/vids
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120144 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120144)
Quote from: Hubbs on May 04, 2015, 03:39:22 PM
She looks hot and I like the outfit...but it just isn't Harley Quinn.
Do you only see Ben Affleck when you look at her too?
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 07, 2015, 02:55:53 AMShe looks hot and I like the outfit...but it just isn't Harley Quinn.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdata2.whicdn.com%2Fimages%2F112297292%2Foriginal.jpg&hash=5d17ec74f8ba9110b57af46c12dfe19291ba40f9)
No??
Quote from: Local Trouble on May 07, 2015, 02:55:53 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on May 04, 2015, 03:39:22 PM
She looks hot and I like the outfit...but it just isn't Harley Quinn.
Do you only see Ben Affleck when you look at her too?
Eh? ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCVtb1Cgud0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCVtb1Cgud0)
Nick Mundy destroys the SS team pic here haha
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFAm4WgXIAEdcad.jpg:large)
A lot of people on the web that I notice seem to hate on Killer Croc on the movie. I guess The Lizard in The Amazing Spider-Man is starting look a bit better now.
Quote from: ace3g on May 15, 2015, 10:54:34 PM
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFAm4WgXIAEdcad.jpg:large)
Doesn't really look like anything much, just kinda messy.
set photos of Joker and Harley
http://batman-news.com/2015/05/17/joker-harley-quinn-argue-suicide-squad-set-video-car/
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120709 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120709)
More pics
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on May 16, 2015, 06:44:25 AM
A lot of people on the web that I notice seem to hate on Killer Croc on the movie. I guess The Lizard in The Amazing Spider-Man is starting look a bit better now.
Never gonna happen.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 18, 2015, 06:51:52 PM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120709 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120709)
More pics
Still not filling me with much confidence. Joker's hair is virtually luminous green and the forehead tattoo is still there, clearly they don't listen to what people say. Still looks like a Marilyn Manson headbanger.
Is this going to be part of DC's attempt at a shared universe. As in being canon to Man Of Steel and the upcoming Superman vs Batman film?
Quote from: Keg on May 19, 2015, 12:35:52 AM
Is this going to be part of DC's attempt at a shared universe. As in being canon to Man Of Steel and the upcoming Superman vs Batman film?
Yep.
The Jokermobile -_- (Mystery Men movie?)
Facepalm.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 18, 2015, 06:51:52 PM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120709 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120709)
More pics
Ugh. Not feeling good about Joker.
The Batmobile on the set of Suicide Squad
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120967 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=120967)
You know I love the suicide squad concept but I'm just not feeling this movie, I'm s=trying to stay optimistic but it's just not happening
The Jokermobile is totally Schumacher-esque.
Quote from: Hubbs on May 27, 2015, 02:01:10 AM
The Jokermobile is totally Schumacher-esque.
Looks straight out of a comic, to me.
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on May 26, 2015, 09:34:34 PM
You know I love the suicide squad concept but I'm just not feeling this movie, I'm s=trying to stay optimistic but it's just not happening
I'm not feeling it either yet. I'll keep checking out the promo stuff and I'll probably see it but I'm not excited for it.
I can't get what this joker portrayal is. It is obvious that this joker is not a terrorist rogue anarchist but rather some sort of celebrity/media mogul type figure.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on May 27, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
I can't get what this joker portrayal is. It is obvious that this joker is not a terrorist rogue anarchist but rather some sort of celebrity/media mogul type figure.
I think he's a more like a psychotic gang leader, imagine LA style gangs, but with a Joker theme, and a psycho in charge.
Quote from: AvatarIII on May 27, 2015, 03:41:43 PM
Quote from: KirklandSignature on May 27, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
I can't get what this joker portrayal is. It is obvious that this joker is not a terrorist rogue anarchist but rather some sort of celebrity/media mogul type figure.
I think he's a more like a psychotic gang leader, imagine LA style gangs, but with a Joker theme, and a psycho in charge.
Sounds very Arkham Series... I like it.
And to all the people not being hyped... you shouldn't be... all you've seen so far are blurry set-pictures. Nothing to get excited about anyway.
set photos
Spoiler
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/markcassidycbm/news/?a=121064
LOL Batman looks like an elephant.
The logo on the Batsuit is spoiling the effect, its too fat.
Is this a Batman film now?
Do I see earrings on the Joker ::)
Jokermobile is absolutely dreadful.
Face tattoos...facepalm.
Worked fine in the comic:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fflickfilms.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fartwork_the_dark_knight_returns_frank_miller_1920x1080_39062.jpg&hash=816798f8c8f81eed6a8e3e02e3aab2ca89fd11ed)
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 29, 2015, 03:36:58 AM
Worked fine in the comic:
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I would of thought by now most people knew that what works in a comic won't necessarily work in a movie.
What's up with The Joker's car that people are griping about? I thought it was just a car. If it's some sort of wierd Jokermobile then it looks car-ish enough to work, IMO.
Batsuit looks good. I can see why people are calling it funky but again the shots of it weren't exactly the best. No matter what superhero costume you've got, it's never going to look cool at every single angle. The footage from the Batman Vs. Superman trailer prove, to me at least, that it's going to look great on film with Snyder's heavy filters (yeah I know not something people would normally attribute to making something look better but whatever, if the movie is stylized then there is nothing wrong with some neat filter and color grading effects). I don't know how Suicide Squad is going to look after post production but I'm sure they've figured it out.
I am more worried by the fact that Batman is in Suicide Squad. I guarantee it's only for a scene or two to establish The Joker but does the film really need it? They want to connect the films together and that's fine but I think Lex Luthor's involvement with the plot will do that just fine.
He looks exactly like an elephant, the suit texture looks like elephant hide and the eyes look like the ones of an elephant XD
I thought this was going to be an adaptation of Batman, instead of...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg7.uploadhouse.com%2Ffileuploads%2F21187%2F211876078bf132c4d1bb302e9d5cf5a2bccef494.jpg&hash=8e507ed5aed495e7b8c7d057579e489cc9b2bfd6)
So, how 'bout Batman's tattoos? I guess "darkness", "POW!", "orphan" or "notBatman" (to cover his secret identity) on his cheeck. Or maybe a classic lower back tattoo, some japanese symbols on his forehead :D
It means "dumpling face" but the guy at the tattoo shop told him it was "dark knight".
Quote from: Magegg on May 28, 2015, 11:48:36 PM
LOL Batman looks like an elephant.
You're right :laugh:
Quote from: evolution_rex on May 29, 2015, 06:04:36 AM
What's up with The Joker's car that people are griping about? I thought it was just a car. If it's some sort of wierd Jokermobile then it looks car-ish enough to work, IMO.
Batsuit looks good. I can see why people are calling it funky but again the shots of it weren't exactly the best. No matter what superhero costume you've got, it's never going to look cool at every single angle. The footage from the Batman Vs. Superman trailer prove, to me at least, that it's going to look great on film with Snyder's heavy filters (yeah I know not something people would normally attribute to making something look better but whatever, if the movie is stylized then there is nothing wrong with some neat filter and color grading effects). I don't know how Suicide Squad is going to look after post production but I'm sure they've figured it out.
I am more worried by the fact that Batman is in Suicide Squad. I guarantee it's only for a scene or two to establish The Joker but does the film really need it? They want to connect the films together and that's fine but I think Lex Luthor's involvement with the plot will do that just fine.
The Joker having a flashy car is just terrible in general. Sure he needs a car to get to places but not some Fast and the Furious sports car. Joker mobile and his other cars were fine for cartoons and some of the comics. But in a movie it just feels extremely silly. I think Leto will do a fantastic performance but I don't like the direction they took with this Joker.
Quote from: xeno-kaname on May 29, 2015, 09:04:40 PMThe Joker having a flashy car is just terrible in general.
I don't see how Joker driving a car is a terrible idea.
And if it's the Joker, he would probably drive a really flashy car, that's his style, really pimp.
Maybe you're seeing this too much in the light of The Dark Knight.
Quote from: Magegg on May 29, 2015, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: xeno-kaname on May 29, 2015, 09:04:40 PMThe Joker having a flashy car is just terrible in general.
I don't see how Joker driving a car is a terrible idea.
And if it's the Joker, he would probably drive a really flashy car, that's his style, really pimp.
Maybe you're seeing this too much in the light of The Dark Knight.
I really don't think he would drive a pimped-up car, maybe a slick car but not a pimp car.
Quote from: Hubbs on May 29, 2015, 11:52:24 PM
Quote from: Magegg on May 29, 2015, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: xeno-kaname on May 29, 2015, 09:04:40 PMThe Joker having a flashy car is just terrible in general.
I don't see how Joker driving a car is a terrible idea.
And if it's the Joker, he would probably drive a really flashy car, that's his style, really pimp.
Maybe you're seeing this too much in the light of The Dark Knight.
I really don't think he would drive a pimped-up car, maybe a slick car but not a pimp car.
It's just a purple sports car.
Quote from: KiramidHead on May 29, 2015, 11:58:02 PM
Quote from: Hubbs on May 29, 2015, 11:52:24 PM
Quote from: Magegg on May 29, 2015, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: xeno-kaname on May 29, 2015, 09:04:40 PMThe Joker having a flashy car is just terrible in general.
I don't see how Joker driving a car is a terrible idea.
And if it's the Joker, he would probably drive a really flashy car, that's his style, really pimp.
Maybe you're seeing this too much in the light of The Dark Knight.
I really don't think he would drive a pimped-up car, maybe a slick car but not a pimp car.
It's just a purple sports car.
Have you seen a close up of the detail? the gold trim etc...its pretty vile.
I don't see any problem, he probably shoot a pimp in the head and stole the car, lol.
Quote from: Magegg on May 29, 2015, 09:38:05 PM
Quote from: xeno-kaname on May 29, 2015, 09:04:40 PMThe Joker having a flashy car is just terrible in general.
I don't see how Joker driving a car is a terrible idea.
And if it's the Joker, he would probably drive a really flashy car, that's his style, really pimp.
Maybe you're seeing this too much in the light of The Dark Knight.
No, I'm not. I know there are many different kinds of Jokers over the years and I was expecting a different take but not this "thug" Joker.
The mannerisms and behavior of The Joker totally fits with a pimped out car. I really don't get why not. He's damaged, as his tattoo points out, so I'm fairly certain he doesn't care about the practicality of being a criminal whilst driving around in an easy to spot expensive vehicle. How is it any way out of character? Like I'm sort of baffled by what you guys are saying.
1. He's crazy
2. He does ridiculous things, often evil but also often comical
3. He makes a lot of money
4. He probably doesn't care if people see him if he's just driving around
5. It's a crazy, pimped out car that's beyond practicality.
This seems like totally something The Joker would. Hell, it's something I could have seen Nolan's Joker doing. And we don't even know if it's his car, he could have stolen it! And yet instead of actually thing it through we see a brightly colored car and immediately yell out 'Batman and Robin'.
Ledger's Joker was pretty thug.
Ledger's Joker was a terrorist. Leto's Joker seems to be a more of an insane gang leader.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 31, 2015, 03:17:12 AM
Ledger's Joker was a terrorist. Leto's Joker seems to be a more of an insane gang leader.
Judging by a couple production pictures, wow, you must be a psychic.
Quote from: evolution_rex on May 30, 2015, 09:10:15 PM
The mannerisms and behavior of The Joker totally fits with a pimped out car. I really don't get why not. He's damaged, as his tattoo points out, so I'm fairly certain he doesn't care about the practicality of being a criminal whilst driving around in an easy to spot expensive vehicle. How is it any way out of character? Like I'm sort of baffled by what you guys are saying.
1. He's crazy
2. He does ridiculous things, often evil but also often comical
3. He makes a lot of money
4. He probably doesn't care if people see him if he's just driving around
5. It's a crazy, pimped out car that's beyond practicality.
This seems like totally something The Joker would. Hell, it's something I could have seen Nolan's Joker doing. And we don't even know if it's his car, he could have stolen it! And yet instead of actually thing it through we see a brightly colored car and immediately yell out 'Batman and Robin'.
The car does look quite Schumacher-ish to me, or like something outta 'Mystery Men'.
As for everything else, well the thing is DC and WB are going for this dark serious tone, and everything we see in the Joker doesn't really fit that (accept the tattoos which apparently equal instant edge). If this is a Nolan-esque, gritty, semi-sensible tone, he wouldn't drive around in a
Wacky Racers-mobile for all to see. I doubt he would dress like a pimp from a
Shaft movie either, he looks like he's been Schumachered ;) Instead of nipples its earrings.
Quote from: Hubbs on May 31, 2015, 05:13:40 AMThe car does look quite Schumacher-ish to me, or like something outta 'Mystery Men'.
Get an eye exam.
Quote from: Hubbs on May 31, 2015, 05:13:40 AMAs for everything else, well the thing is DC and WB are going for this dark serious tone, and everything we see in the Joker doesn't really fit that (accept the tattoos which apparently equal instant edge). If this is a Nolan-esque, gritty, semi-sensible tone, he wouldn't drive around in a Wacky Racers-mobile for all to see. I doubt he would dress like a pimp from a Shaft movie either, he looks like he's been Schumachered ;) Instead of nipples its earrings.
Wow, if it's too dark, you say it's a Nolan ripoff. If it's not too dark, you say it's Schmacher-esque...
Oh, nevermind, I forgot who I was talking with ::)
Quote from: Magegg on May 31, 2015, 03:46:00 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on May 31, 2015, 03:17:12 AM
Ledger's Joker was a terrorist. Leto's Joker seems to be a more of an insane gang leader.
Judging by a couple production pictures, wow, you must be a psychic.
That's why I said
Seems.
Quote from: Hubbs on May 31, 2015, 05:13:40 AM
Quote from: evolution_rex on May 30, 2015, 09:10:15 PM
The mannerisms and behavior of The Joker totally fits with a pimped out car. I really don't get why not. He's damaged, as his tattoo points out, so I'm fairly certain he doesn't care about the practicality of being a criminal whilst driving around in an easy to spot expensive vehicle. How is it any way out of character? Like I'm sort of baffled by what you guys are saying.
1. He's crazy
2. He does ridiculous things, often evil but also often comical
3. He makes a lot of money
4. He probably doesn't care if people see him if he's just driving around
5. It's a crazy, pimped out car that's beyond practicality.
This seems like totally something The Joker would. Hell, it's something I could have seen Nolan's Joker doing. And we don't even know if it's his car, he could have stolen it! And yet instead of actually thing it through we see a brightly colored car and immediately yell out 'Batman and Robin'.
The car does look quite Schumacher-ish to me, or like something outta 'Mystery Men'.
As for everything else, well the thing is DC and WB are going for this dark serious tone, and everything we see in the Joker doesn't really fit that (accept the tattoos which apparently equal instant edge). If this is a Nolan-esque, gritty, semi-sensible tone, he wouldn't drive around in a Wacky Racers-mobile for all to see. I doubt he would dress like a pimp from a Shaft movie either, he looks like he's been Schumachered ;) Instead of nipples its earrings.
Explain to me exactly what about the car makes it too cooky for your tastes.
Quote from: evolution_rex on May 31, 2015, 11:37:50 PM
Quote from: Hubbs on May 31, 2015, 05:13:40 AM
Quote from: evolution_rex on May 30, 2015, 09:10:15 PM
The mannerisms and behavior of The Joker totally fits with a pimped out car. I really don't get why not. He's damaged, as his tattoo points out, so I'm fairly certain he doesn't care about the practicality of being a criminal whilst driving around in an easy to spot expensive vehicle. How is it any way out of character? Like I'm sort of baffled by what you guys are saying.
1. He's crazy
2. He does ridiculous things, often evil but also often comical
3. He makes a lot of money
4. He probably doesn't care if people see him if he's just driving around
5. It's a crazy, pimped out car that's beyond practicality.
This seems like totally something The Joker would. Hell, it's something I could have seen Nolan's Joker doing. And we don't even know if it's his car, he could have stolen it! And yet instead of actually thing it through we see a brightly colored car and immediately yell out 'Batman and Robin'.
The car does look quite Schumacher-ish to me, or like something outta 'Mystery Men'.
As for everything else, well the thing is DC and WB are going for this dark serious tone, and everything we see in the Joker doesn't really fit that (accept the tattoos which apparently equal instant edge). If this is a Nolan-esque, gritty, semi-sensible tone, he wouldn't drive around in a Wacky Racers-mobile for all to see. I doubt he would dress like a pimp from a Shaft movie either, he looks like he's been Schumachered ;) Instead of nipples its earrings.
Explain to me exactly what about the car makes it too cooky for your tastes.
Its a supercar, a metallic purple supercar with gold trim, ugly oversized alloys, red calipers and from what I've seen, underbody neon lights and interior neon lights. It looks like something for toy merch, in other words...Schumacher-esque.
set photos
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CG1iBvhXEAAtw_j.png:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CG1iCE3WQAAuehl.png:large)
Quote from: Hubbs on Jun 01, 2015, 01:53:25 AMIts a supercar, a metallic purple supercar with gold trim, ugly oversized alloys, red calipers and from what I've seen, underbody neon lights and interior neon lights. It looks like something for toy merch, in other words...Schumacher-esque.
Great to read you're not watching this movie either ::)
Common's character from set photos
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHLcsK3UkAAGWs-.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHLcsVOUwAADELL.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHLcsJvUYAIe1J5.jpg)
Holy hypocrisy!
http://peeltheorange.net/suicide-squad-actress-cara-delevingne-says-generally-superhero-movies-are-sexist/
Give someone else the role if that's how she feels.
Quote from: Hubbs on Jun 29, 2015, 12:00:19 PM
Holy hypocrisy!
http://peeltheorange.net/suicide-squad-actress-cara-delevingne-says-generally-superhero-movies-are-sexist/
Give someone else the role if that's how she feels.
I don't see how she's being hypocritical or anything. She's just telling the truth here. Black Widow's ass shots are a clear sample.
Remember Evangeline Lilly said Marvel comic books "are crap"? XD
For once I agree with you here. She says that her role is one of the best in the film. There's no hypocrisy. Just a plain statement how she feels watching other superhero movies.
She's claiming superhero movies are sexist, yet she's currently starring/shooting in one of the biggest.
If that's how she feels, leave the project, plain and simple.
Quote from: Hubbs on Jun 29, 2015, 07:11:10 PMShe's claiming superhero movies are sexist, yet she's currently starring/shooting in one of the biggest.
If that's how she feels, leave the project, plain and simple.
As long as she's not talking bad about her movie, that's not hypocritical. She says most superhero movies are sexist, not this one.
Quote from: Magegg on Jun 29, 2015, 09:41:40 PM
Quote from: Hubbs on Jun 29, 2015, 07:11:10 PMShe's claiming superhero movies are sexist, yet she's currently starring/shooting in one of the biggest.
If that's how she feels, leave the project, plain and simple.
As long as she's not talking bad about her movie, that's not hypocritical. She says most superhero movies are sexist, not this one.
So is this one gonna be less 'sexist' than the others?
Its kinda convenient that most other superhero flicks are sexist, accept the one she's working on now lol! ::)
Yeah this ones A-OK because its my gig, and I'm being paid a lot, and its probably gonna be massive, so yeah, this ones fine...its just all the others I'm not starring in ::)
Who cares.
Hubbs cares
Question still unsolved
Hypocrisy -_-
Un fanmade de puta madre :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIGzfdpJLGQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIGzfdpJLGQ)
Leaked footage:
https://video.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xaf1/v/t42.1790-2/11654536_1620156428247156_398599575_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjMwMCwicmxhIjo2Mjd9&rl=300&vabr=162&oh=4d49f6dcb7624558872fdb6634d8cffb&oe=55A19E4C (https://video.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xaf1/v/t42.1790-2/11654536_1620156428247156_398599575_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjMwMCwicmxhIjo2Mjd9&rl=300&vabr=162&oh=4d49f6dcb7624558872fdb6634d8cffb&oe=55A19E4C)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jul 11, 2015, 11:00:12 PM
Leaked footage:
https://video.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xaf1/v/t42.1790-2/11654536_1620156428247156_398599575_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjMwMCwicmxhIjo2Mjd9&rl=300&vabr=162&oh=4d49f6dcb7624558872fdb6634d8cffb&oe=55A19E4C (https://video.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xaf1/v/t42.1790-2/11654536_1620156428247156_398599575_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjMwMCwicmxhIjo2Mjd9&rl=300&vabr=162&oh=4d49f6dcb7624558872fdb6634d8cffb&oe=55A19E4C)
Spoiler
It's pretty likely that the first batman solo film is going to be under the red hood. Today's trailers pretty much confirm it for me. The BvS has the news clipping about letting his family die and the Jokers reveal could be the rumoured Death in the Family scene.
From what I've seen this looks really dark which feels like a big gamble to me.
Plus I can't get excited about a movie which has the double slam casting of both Joel Kinnaman AND Jai Courtney (and Will Smith!).
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJuFIesUYAAyPqd.jpg:large)
Saw the full trailer and wasn't too impressed, sadly. I was really excited for this movie too! But Leto's performance looks to be pretty good.
I loved the trailer, great style and music choice *O*
I'm much more excited for this than for Batman v Superman.
David Ayer @DavidAyerMovies
Here it is. Our Sneak peek #SDCC reel:
bit.ly/1HrbiR2
https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/620684562369236992
Nice. Definitely more of a Noir film than BvS. :)
Quote from: Magegg on Jul 13, 2015, 07:27:04 AM
I loved the trailer, great style and music choice *O*
I'm much more excited for this than for Batman v Superman.
I wonder if they will link the Jason Todd reference in BvS to the Joker in this flick. I would lose my shit if they did. Leto looks incredible
im excited for this. i never cared much about the so called good guys, they are boring, but bad guys who can turn good is what i much more can relate to. like Guardians of the Galaxy. btw Joker looks dumb, i know its much more like the comics but i dont think a crazy Joker would spend so much time and put that much effort in his costume and look to look more crazy. its silly, Nolan's joker looked a crazy mess and Burton's joker tried to cover himself in style. but this....but on the other side i think the acting will be on top
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Harley is the best so far ::) :P
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Loved the trailer. That shot of Deadshot leaping from the side of the building in his full gear looked incredible. Killer Croc looks good as well though I wish he was bigger. And Leto absolutely stole the show as Joker.
Was that Batman on top of the car Harley Quinn was driving in?
Quote from: Phosphorus Rex on Jul 13, 2015, 11:34:05 PM
Loved the trailer. That shot of Deadshot leaping from the side of the building in his full gear looked incredible. Killer Croc looks good as well though I wish he was bigger. And Leto absolutely stole the show as Joker.
Was that Batman on top of the car Harley Quinn was driving in?
Yes it was and no Harley was not driving the car, she was in the passenger seat.
But Harley is the one being tortured in the end of this trailer, at 1:35 you can see her being put on the medical bed. also at 2:18 :) thats she and the Joker
plus at 2:22 you can see the Joker is driving that car Batsy is grab onto
Killer Croc actually looks pretty good.
That definitely looks like Harley Quinn strapped to the table. I would assume the Joker is speaking to her, about not killing her. I would imagine this is when she creates the Harley Quinn personality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQN7t-giaZQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQN7t-giaZQ)
So.. come on guys!
thoughts on 'lento's Joker?
i actually like it.
I thought the little we saw of Leto's performance was great. I could still take or leave the tattoos, but the acting has me sold.
So I have to ask, its been bugging me for awhile.
The love for Harley Quinn.... Why? Is it just neckbeards who act like she's their waifu? Or is it nostalgia from the 90's kids? I'm at a loss here.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isint she just some nut who has a thing for the joker, but is just constantly abused by him?
Quote from: elemental-of-all on Jul 16, 2015, 03:32:42 AM
So I have to ask, its been bugging me for awhile.
The love for Harley Quinn.... Why? Is it just neckbeards who act like she's their waifu? Or is it nostalgia from the 90's kids? I'm at a loss here.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isint she just some nut who has a thing for the joker, but is just constantly abused by him?
It's the 90's kid thing for me, I was too young for it to be a physical attraction kid of thing. She's an interesting character as well, especially this take on her, with the Joker seemingly torturing and breaking her down.
As for Leto's Joker, I like it. Not a huge departure from Ledgers but he comes across in the trailer as being legitimately crazy. Ledgers Joker seem intent and methodical but this just seems scary crazy.
Harley is by far the best female character from DC.
Cool backstory, interesting personality, layers of depth and shades of grey, etcetera.
I was worried that Letto wouldn't hold a candle to Ledger but from what I saw in the trailer, I'm quite hopeful. He seems really intense and creepy. I like it.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 16, 2015, 07:18:14 AM
I was worried that Letto wouldn't hold a candle to Ledger but from what I saw in the trailer, I'm quite hopeful. He seems really intense and creepy. I like it.
I wonder how many people thought the same about Ledger compared to Nicholson? So far it looks like the darkest Joker we've had on the big screen.
well um no, it just cant be. DC LOOKS LIKE now is between the line of Marvel and Nolan's Batman in terms of drama and seriousness. no matter how dark and crazy is the joker here, without real characters to worry about. and lets face it story wise, character wise the latest Superman movie was flat, so im not hopeful
if only they can pull something off like Marvel did with Guardians. that s*it made my eyes teary 3 times
Spoiler
http://batman-news.com/2015/07/25/latest-suicide-squad-set-photos-hint-at-joker-origin-story/
Now this is an interesting theory about the Joker :o Like Joe says I don't think WB has the balls though
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wEY6dv5AKMU
Here's Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn Giving Her Suicide Squad Mates Tattoos (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/08/19/heres-margot-robbies-harley-quinn-giving-her-suicide-squad-mates-tattoos)
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That side profile shot of The Joker is amazing.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Oct 26, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
That side profile shot of The Joker is amazing.
From what little we've seen I'd say he'll do a good job, I just think he needs to smile more
So excited to see killer croc finally getting a film portrayal. I think the makeup looks good, though a bit short in height.
killer Croc rarely gets done right. he's an african american gangster thug with a weird birth defect, I love that! He should be more than a "strong monster" type of character This is a sketch how I would do him. with tons of charisma and deep voice of course.
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The more I see of him the less i like. I wasn't that put off with Joker initially but his wardrobe looks bad to me.
Quote from: bobby brown on Oct 27, 2015, 02:41:00 AMkiller Croc rarely gets done right. he's an african american gangster thug with a weird birth defect, I love that! He should be more than a "strong monster" type of character This is a sketch how I would do him. with tons of charisma and deep voice of course.
Yeah I like when he's just a guy with a bad skin condition. I've never got making him a big dinosaur-lizard with a tail and everything. Then he just becomes the Lizard from Spider-Man.
You know that Eminem song "shake that "? My ideal killer croc would probably sound something to nate dogg in that song.
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Can you spot the red-shirts in the crew?
The skull guy for sure. Probably rick flagg as well since he looks so generic.
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I'm not fussed with this thug looking get-up for the Joker. I do like the straight jacket images though.
And Cara Delevingne just does it for me.
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/682343142658539520
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2015, 01:17:10 PM
I'm not fussed with this thug looking get-up for the Joker. I do like the straight jacket images though.
And Cara Delevingne just does it for me.
Cara Delevigne...
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Honestly, I'm just assuming that the Joker's thug look is him reinventing himself like Grant Morrison wrote him as doing.
Apart from the one too many on the nose tattoo's, I like the look
Katana looks incredible :o
Is deathstroke in this? Heard a while back he was before he lost his eye and had his enhanced abilities but nothing since :-\
Quote from: BISHOP 93 on Dec 31, 2015, 07:14:36 PM
Is deathstroke in this? Heard a while back he was before he lost his eye and had his enhanced abilities but nothing since :-\
As far as I know, he's still just a rumored character.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Dec 31, 2015, 02:10:26 AM
Honestly, I'm just assuming that the Joker's thug look is him reinventing himself like Grant Morrison wrote him as doing.
Assuming that there's a lot of background before this (which seems very very likely) that's certainly a possibility. That said, the reasoning just wouldn't make me like the look though. :-\
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2016/01/10/batman-v-superman-suicide-squad-2016-superhero-movies/78249180/
http://screencrush.com/suicide-squad-photo-batman-cameo-dcu-details/
http://collider.com/suicide-squad-batman-ben-affleck-david-ayer/
https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/688784178129731584
individual posters
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=130074
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Now that was a f**kin' trailer. 8)
holy crap that was a great trailer.
Incredible trailer, can't wait to watch the movie :D
f**k it. Color me excited. I need it.
That was an amazing trailer. Also demonstrates how much great editing can totally throttle up me from not that interested to very f**king interested.
Think I need to re-evaluate my feeling towards Jai Courtney after this trailer, looks like he's doing a stand out job. Leto's Joker looks vicious and scary as hell!
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Jan 20, 2016, 05:29:43 AM
Think I need to re-evaluate my feeling towards Jai Courtney after this trailer, looks like he's doing a stand out job. Leto's Joker looks vicious and scary as hell!
same, he was the surprising standout of that trailer for me.
That one shot of Leto in the tuxedo, holding the golden AK, and laughing is one of the most joker-esque things I've seen in a while
Now that was a trailer! I wasn't overly fussed about the film - I was going to go see it, I just wasn't terribly excited about it but that trailer. I'm genuinely jazzed for the film now!
Same here, didn't really care much about the film but that was one heck of a trailer... really pumped for this now.
You simply can't go wrong with "Queen" ;D
I like the fact that there's not really much of the story revealed, bad guys doing bad things for something greater that's all I need to know.
That was a great trailer. Pity how it ends though but I hope it's at least as good as the animated version that had batman in it.
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Jan 20, 2016, 07:54:35 AM
That one shot of Leto in the tuxedo, holding the golden AK, and laughing is one of the most joker-esque things I've seen in a while
You mean this? Amazing!
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Joker looks like Frankenstein, whose idea was the forehead tattoo?
The trailer looks like it could be a fun movie. People seem to be mix on Killer Croc's design in the movie. A lot of people I seen say that he looks like a Goomba from the Super Mario Bros. Film or pretty similar to the Lizard from The Amazing Spider-Man.
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Looks like not a bad film.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jan 20, 2016, 07:04:54 PM
The trailer looks like it could be a fun movie. People seem to be mix on Killer Croc's design in the movie. A lot of people I seen say that he looks like a Goomba from the Super Mario Bros. Film or pretty similar to the Lizard from The Amazing Spider-Man.
Thats what killer croc looks like? What would people want instead?
I feel like Harley Quinn is a character that is difficult to do an accurate on screen portrayal of, I am wondering how well Suicide Squad and Margot Robbie are going to do.
Quote from: bobby brown on Jan 21, 2016, 01:59:20 AM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jan 20, 2016, 07:04:54 PM
The trailer looks like it could be a fun movie. People seem to be mix on Killer Croc's design in the movie. A lot of people I seen say that he looks like a Goomba from the Super Mario Bros. Film or pretty similar to the Lizard from The Amazing Spider-Man.
Thats what killer croc looks like? What would people want instead?
I seen people that Killer Croc to have a more animalistic looking head in the movie. People hated the Lizard from Amazing Spider-Man for a similar reason.
Quote from: bobby brown on Jan 21, 2016, 01:59:20 AM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jan 20, 2016, 07:04:54 PM
The trailer looks like it could be a fun movie. People seem to be mix on Killer Croc's design in the movie. A lot of people I seen say that he looks like a Goomba from the Super Mario Bros. Film or pretty similar to the Lizard from The Amazing Spider-Man.
Thats what killer croc looks like? What would people want instead?
People wanted Croc to look like he does in the Arkham games and newer comics, ten feet tall and more mutated. His look in the movie is more in line with his earlier appearances.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 21, 2016, 03:15:15 AM
Quote from: bobby brown on Jan 21, 2016, 01:59:20 AM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jan 20, 2016, 07:04:54 PM
The trailer looks like it could be a fun movie. People seem to be mix on Killer Croc's design in the movie. A lot of people I seen say that he looks like a Goomba from the Super Mario Bros. Film or pretty similar to the Lizard from The Amazing Spider-Man.
Thats what killer croc looks like? What would people want instead?
People wanted Croc to look like he does in the Arkham games and newer comics, ten feet tall and more mutated. His look in the movie is more in line with his earlier appearances.
Killer Croc isn't a monster, he's a man with a skin condition who also happens to eat people.
So anybody know what that UroborosfromRE5 looking thing is yet?
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Jan 21, 2016, 03:48:49 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Jan 21, 2016, 03:15:15 AM
Quote from: bobby brown on Jan 21, 2016, 01:59:20 AM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Jan 20, 2016, 07:04:54 PM
The trailer looks like it could be a fun movie. People seem to be mix on Killer Croc's design in the movie. A lot of people I seen say that he looks like a Goomba from the Super Mario Bros. Film or pretty similar to the Lizard from The Amazing Spider-Man.
Thats what killer croc looks like? What would people want instead?
People wanted Croc to look like he does in the Arkham games and newer comics, ten feet tall and more mutated. His look in the movie is more in line with his earlier appearances.
Killer Croc isn't a monster, he's a man with a skin condition who also happens to eat people.
I like him to be more of a character, not just a monster. Although the arkham games imply his condition gets worse with Age.
I absolutely adore his appearance in Arkham Origins. A younger leaner guy, not unlike what I've seen in the trailers.
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Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Jan 22, 2016, 03:32:59 AM
So anybody know what that UroborosfromRE5 looking thing is yet?
i hear its a creature created by the enchantress. i think its name was incubus.
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alt INTL trailer
Reshoots 'apparently'
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/suicide-squad-is-apparently-undergoing-reshoots-to-inject-more-fun-a132865 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/suicide-squad-is-apparently-undergoing-reshoots-to-inject-more-fun-a132865)
My only hope is they don't turn it into a marvel movie. They try and do that, and even succeed at it, then the DCCU will be useless.
Major reshoots
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes
I smell another possible disappointment/failure.
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:31:02 AM
Major reshoots
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes
I smell another possible disappointment/failure.
For you, everything is a disappointment/failure, so who cares :P
Quote from: Magegg on Apr 01, 2016, 02:45:51 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:31:02 AM
Major reshoots
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes
I smell another possible disappointment/failure.
For you, everything is a disappointment/failure, so who cares :P
I've just seen a string of really average flicks, its hard to have much excitement for modern movies :/
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:53:20 AM
Quote from: Magegg on Apr 01, 2016, 02:45:51 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:31:02 AM
Major reshoots
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes
I smell another possible disappointment/failure.
For you, everything is a disappointment/failure, so who cares :P
I've just seen a string of really average flicks, its hard to have much excitement for modern movies :/
So why post about them?
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 01, 2016, 03:16:26 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:53:20 AM
Quote from: Magegg on Apr 01, 2016, 02:45:51 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:31:02 AM
Major reshoots
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes
I smell another possible disappointment/failure.
For you, everything is a disappointment/failure, so who cares :P
I've just seen a string of really average flicks, its hard to have much excitement for modern movies :/
So why post about them?
I review flicks.
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 05:12:27 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 01, 2016, 03:16:26 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:53:20 AM
Quote from: Magegg on Apr 01, 2016, 02:45:51 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:31:02 AM
Major reshoots
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes
I smell another possible disappointment/failure.
For you, everything is a disappointment/failure, so who cares :P
I've just seen a string of really average flicks, its hard to have much excitement for modern movies :/
So why post about them?
I review flicks.
Flicks from beyond my time even. Don't be a Sarah Bernhardt
.
Well, it's a free country.
I'm only saying, considering your record, you can't seriously expect someone to trust your opinion, Hubbs ::)
Quote from: Magegg on Apr 01, 2016, 03:07:01 PM
Well, it's a free country.
I'm only saying, considering your record, you can't seriously expect someone to trust your opinion, Hubbs ::)
That's what makes em so fun to read :)
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:31:02 AM
Major reshoots
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes
I smell another possible disappointment/failure.
reshoots and additional filming isn't that big of a worry, it's fairly common as I undersatnd it. It's the motive/reasons for the reshoots that sets off mild alarm bells for me. More humour. Is this because people complained that Batman V Superman was too dark and humourless?
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Apr 01, 2016, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:31:02 AM
Major reshoots
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes
I smell another possible disappointment/failure.
reshoots and additional filming isn't that big of a worry, it's fairly common as I undersatnd it. It's the motive/reasons for the reshoots that sets off mild alarm bells for me. More humour. Is this because people complained that Batman V Superman was too dark and humourless?
That's the reason given in the reports. They're not major reshoots just adding lines most likely. The tone of the film is supposed to be very close to the comic con trailer. Quite sombre.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 01, 2016, 07:52:57 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Apr 01, 2016, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:31:02 AM
Major reshoots
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes
I smell another possible disappointment/failure.
reshoots and additional filming isn't that big of a worry, it's fairly common as I undersatnd it. It's the motive/reasons for the reshoots that sets off mild alarm bells for me. More humour. Is this because people complained that Batman V Superman was too dark and humourless?
That's the reason given in the reports. They're not major reshoots just adding lines most likely. The tone of the film is supposed to be very close to the comic con trailer. Quite sombre.
I've also read that reshoots were happening anyways due to Croc's actor having scheduling conflicts.
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 04:32:33 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Apr 01, 2016, 03:07:01 PM
Well, it's a free country.
I'm only saying, considering your record, you can't seriously expect someone to trust your opinion, Hubbs ::)
That's what makes em so fun to read :)
No one reads your reviews :P
Quote from: Magegg on Apr 01, 2016, 03:07:01 PM
Well, it's a free country.
There's no democracy on an internet website.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 01, 2016, 10:20:19 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Apr 01, 2016, 07:52:57 PM
Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Apr 01, 2016, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 01, 2016, 02:31:02 AM
Major reshoots
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-undergoing-big-reshoots-add-more-jokes
I smell another possible disappointment/failure.
reshoots and additional filming isn't that big of a worry, it's fairly common as I undersatnd it. It's the motive/reasons for the reshoots that sets off mild alarm bells for me. More humour. Is this because people complained that Batman V Superman was too dark and humourless?
That's the reason given in the reports. They're not major reshoots just adding lines most likely. The tone of the film is supposed to be very close to the comic con trailer. Quite sombre.
I've also read that reshoots were happening anyways due to Croc's actor having scheduling conflicts.
Yeah reshoots are probably nothing to worry about in this case.
I hope they won't force the humor, I liked SS for what I was seeing in the trailer... let's have a director's cut or something, just in case, the fact is I was already really excited for the movie, hope it's a big success.
I know there is similar articles posted previously but thought it worth posting this;
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/suicide-squad-is-being-reshot-to-add-humour-and-be-less-like-batman-v-superman-a6963406.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/suicide-squad-is-being-reshot-to-add-humour-and-be-less-like-batman-v-superman-a6963406.html)
''What's the answer to the question, "How can we make Suicide Squad as unlike Batman v Superman as possible?"
It's whatever is currently echoing through the halls of Warner Bros., that's for sure.''
''The reshoots also appear to be in reaction to the positive hype surrounding the film's first, full trailer; which previewed an anarchic, darkly humorous film soundtracked to Queen's "Bohemian Rhapsody". However, those sources state the trailer doesn't actually acurately represent the final film; "every joke in the movie is in that trailer."
This modern trend of directors cuts is daft, the final finished film should be the version in the cinema, period. You shouldn't have to rely on a home released directors cut months down the line for the definitive version. That's like putting out any old crap for the cinema as a big tester, then releasing a supposedly much better version down the line which you have to pay for again, its almost like DLC.
Director cuts used to be a one-off special that some films might get if the director thought it was justified with left over material. Now its just expected as a second version of the film, like a backup, its ridiculous, why not just release 6 versions just in case.
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 03, 2016, 04:25:21 PM
This modern trend of directors cuts is daft, the final finished film should be the version in the cinema, period. You shouldn't have to rely on a home released directors cut months down the line for the definitive version. That's like putting out any old crap for the cinema as a big tester, then releasing a supposedly much better version down the line which you have to pay for again, its almost like DLC.
Director cuts used to be a one-off special that some films might get if the director thought it was justified with left over material. Now its just expected as a second version of the film, like a backup, its ridiculous, why not just release 6 versions just in case.
There isn't a trend...
Apart from Watchmen, I can't think of many other Directors cuts recently.
I'm fine with extended versions of movies, more often than not it does improve them
Blade Runner
Alien
Aliens
Alien 3
Watchmen
Natural Born Killers
Superman 2
Are a few examples
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Apr 03, 2016, 05:48:15 PM
I'm fine with extended versions of movies, more often than not it does improve them
Blade Runner
Alien
Aliens
Alien 3
Watchmen
Natural Born Killers
Superman 2
Are a few examples
Yeah but most of those came out a while ago and deserve directors cuts, there was a purpose for them. These days its almost standard practice to do them, or it certainly seems that way. I'm always seeing people saying they hope the DC cut will be better, like its an obligatory thing.
What about X-Men: The Rogue Cut?
Quote from: Hubbs on Apr 03, 2016, 08:39:21 PM
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Apr 03, 2016, 05:48:15 PM
I'm fine with extended versions of movies, more often than not it does improve them
Blade Runner
Alien
Aliens
Alien 3
Watchmen
Natural Born Killers
Superman 2
Are a few examples
Yeah but most of those came out a while ago and deserve directors cuts, there was a purpose for them. These days its almost standard practice to do them, or it certainly seems that way. I'm always seeing people saying they hope the DC cut will be better, like its an obligatory thing.
There isn't some made up movie law that states people can't release Director's cut, unless Douchebag Ebert came up with one. So people want to see a Directors cut, to see if it improves on a movie? And that's a problem because?
I love seeing more footage of a movie I really enjoyed, especially if the new scenes help explain certain parts of the movie that seemed unfinished, but were cut for time constraints. By definition, we should see the movie as the director intended for the story to go, and not limited by a some preconceived time schedule. My only problem is when we have alternate endings. That is idiotic. The story should stay the same. There should not be a different cut of Gone with the Wind that has a happy ending, or a Wizard of Oz where Dorothy stays in Oz and becomes the new Empress, or a Godfather where Sonny comes back and becomes the new Don.
New trailer just shown during MTV Movie Awards
https://twitter.com/EW/status/719339063480827904
https://twitter.com/PRAlZE/status/719339151687032832
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 11, 2016, 01:38:32 AM
New trailer just shown during MTV Movie Awards
https://twitter.com/EW/status/719339063480827904
https://twitter.com/PRAlZE/status/719339151687032832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZwsbcW-d-E
Looks pretty cool. 8)
Its looking quite fun!
It looks awesome
Looks interesting,
so the Joker is the big badguy in this movie?
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The fact that Will Smith is front and centre for the gang does not bode well.
Quote from: Hubbs on Jun 01, 2016, 11:50:39 PM
The fact that Will Smith is front and centre for the gang does not bode well.
That's who Deadshot is, he's the front and centre man
Quote from: Hubbs on Jun 01, 2016, 11:50:39 PM
The fact that Will Smith is front and centre for the gang does not bode well.
Deadshot.
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That f**king teddy bear behind Joker. :laugh:
Alright so slipknot dies there's no question about that
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Jun 04, 2016, 12:53:21 AM
Alright so slipknot dies there's no question about that
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Tried to find a gif of his "death scene" in Joe Dirt, so this will have to do.
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Quote from: ace3g on Jun 09, 2016, 11:54:01 PM
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lol i lost it when i saw rachel
brief new footage in music video
https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/745388907437527040
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https://twitter.com/iblamejared/status/747672940813099008
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Hilarious.
I heard that Joker is only in the movie for 10 minutes. Most of it for a flashback origin story for Harley Quinn, and then showing up at the end to break her out or prison.
Quote from: genocyber on Jul 06, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
I heard that Joker is only in the movie for 10 minutes. Most of it for a flashback origin story for Harley Quinn, and then showing up at the end to break her out or prison.
Sounds kinda risky, Especially since the joker is probably the most popular character.
Though might be true. let's hope not.
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Oh my lord that is an awesome shot of those two... apart from the "damaged" tattoo
Quote from: genocyber on Jul 06, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
I heard that Joker is only in the movie for 10 minutes. Most of it for a flashback origin story for Harley Quinn, and then showing up at the end to break her out or prison.
Darth Vader only actually appears on screen for 12 minutes in ANH.
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So... Youtube is bombarding me with trailers for this. Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman were steaming, swollen dog garbage, and I knew that Suicide Squad was facing some filming problems, so I think I was pretty safe in assuming it would also be kind of bad, bad... these trailers are actually pretty good.
Maybe it's just some real editing magic, but I'm interested.
There's a whole other creative team behind Suicide Squad than MoS and BvS, so I don't think there's much to compare, other than the three of them being set in the same universe.
Quote from: bobby brown on Jul 07, 2016, 06:17:53 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Jul 06, 2016, 08:27:34 PM
I heard that Joker is only in the movie for 10 minutes. Most of it for a flashback origin story for Harley Quinn, and then showing up at the end to break her out or prison.
Sounds kinda risky, Especially since the joker is probably the most popular character.
Though might be true. let's hope not.
I feel like (if that's true) it might be them "testing the waters" as it were. See how audiences react to a new Joker before doing more with him.
Quote from: Sabby on Jul 18, 2016, 07:46:47 AM
So... Youtube is bombarding me with trailers for this. Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman were steaming, swollen dog garbage, and I knew that Suicide Squad was facing some filming problems, so I think I was pretty safe in assuming it would also be kind of bad, bad... these trailers are actually pretty good.
Maybe it's just some real editing magic, but I'm interested.
Those filming problems were never proved.
Dont get you hopes up for this movie.
https://twitter.com/IMDb/status/755091251553198080
Please don't suck
They're marketing it as looking so fun. I really hope it is.
At 1:58, who's that in the fire?
At 0:16 of this video has a pretty nice musical nod to the old animated series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhhqmRJ8CD8
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I still cant get over the stupid damaged tattoo.
It worked in Chappie, when it had context that gave it unintended meaning, rather than stamping 'I Am Edgy' on you're damn face.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/final-suicide-squad-cast-list-reveals-the-identities-of-several-a143981
Spoilers, obviously.
I don't recognize the character David Harbour is playing, unfortunately.
So it looks like Scott Eastwood
Spoiler
isn't Deathstroke
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Jul 29, 2016, 05:20:34 PM
So it looks like Scott Eastwood Spoiler
isn't Deathstroke
There was a leak on twitter last night that hinted that Deathstroke is in Suicide Squad.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 29, 2016, 11:32:36 AM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/final-suicide-squad-cast-list-reveals-the-identities-of-several-a143981
Spoilers, obviously.
Where on earth is
Spoiler
Affleck
? Please dont tell me we're "only" getting the double.
Come on... they even put the
Spoiler
Flash
on the list.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Jul 29, 2016, 07:19:51 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 29, 2016, 11:32:36 AM
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/final-suicide-squad-cast-list-reveals-the-identities-of-several-a143981
Spoilers, obviously.
Where on earth is Spoiler
Affleck
Come on... they even put the Spoiler
Flash
He's confirmed in it, he was on set for a week and the Bruce Wayne wig was used. No clue why he wasn't included in the credits.
Quote from: genocyber on Jul 25, 2016, 08:04:55 PM
I still cant get over the stupid damaged tattoo.
That tattoo is probably the biggest mistake in a sea of somewhat probable mistakes they made in the production of the film.
Although I wonder if they're going to stay with the comic...
Spoiler
and kill off nearly everyone in it.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 31, 2016, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Jul 25, 2016, 08:04:55 PM
I still cant get over the stupid damaged tattoo.
That tattoo is probably the biggest mistake in a sea of somewhat probable mistakes they made in the production of the film.
Although I wonder if they're going to stay with the comic...Spoiler
and kill off nearly everyone in it.
I can't imagine that. It would be true to the comics... but utterly stupid from a business perspective for WB.
Early non-spoiler review:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/suicide-squad-non-spoiler-early-review-the-hero-the-dceu-deserves-a144091 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/suicide-squad-non-spoiler-early-review-the-hero-the-dceu-deserves-a144091)
Film sounds like a lot of fun... I'll sigh in relief once I've seen it.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Aug 01, 2016, 08:30:18 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Jul 31, 2016, 01:48:08 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Jul 25, 2016, 08:04:55 PM
I still cant get over the stupid damaged tattoo.
That tattoo is probably the biggest mistake in a sea of somewhat probable mistakes they made in the production of the film.
Although I wonder if they're going to stay with the comic...Spoiler
and kill off nearly everyone in it.
I can't imagine that. It would be true to the comics... but utterly stupid from a business perspective for WB.
Early non-spoiler review:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/suicide-squad-non-spoiler-early-review-the-hero-the-dceu-deserves-a144091 (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/suicide-squad-non-spoiler-early-review-the-hero-the-dceu-deserves-a144091)
Film sounds like a lot of fun... I'll sigh in relief once I've seen it.
Plus these aren't the characters. They're all pretty big hitters in terms of Batman and Flash villains so you can guess which ones are gunna get it.
Wow! This film is getting bad reviews across the board! Honestly didn't expect that.
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 02, 2016, 07:11:39 PM
Wow! This film is getting bad reviews across the board! Honestly didn't have expect that.
No no no no no no no no no no no! :'(
Wait for user reviews. Film reviewers are super out of touch :/ Doesn't seem to matter if they love or hate it, the user reviews are usually different and line up more with your own opinion.
I don't know if that means we're actual morons or that review journalism just naturally becomes pretentious over time.
well jeremy jahns loved it
I get the feeling that reviewers get the chance to slam comic book movies whenever a DC film rolls around. BvS wasn't a great film but it seemed like critics really went for the jugular on that one. I don't think critics want anything other than Marvel comic book films these days and very few of them step out and criticise Marvel/Disney in a meaningful way. Theres no conspiracy against DC/WB but they all seem pretty comfortable breaking these films apart. Never have I seen a Marvel film under the same level of scrutiny as BvS and, now, Suicide Squad. Just look at Thor Dark World , Iron Man 2 + 3 and Age of Ultron, some of these are genuinely bad films but all are below par for Marvel, yet they all have decent review scores.
36% on RT!
Who cares what critics think? Just see it if you want to see it, I still intend to watch Ice Age 5 and Jason Bourne. 8)
No film featuring Harley Quinn should ever suck...
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 03, 2016, 07:14:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYyX2nax2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FShoIuw7pNY
Really Grace? the bad trailers the bad actor casting the bad vibe didnt give it away? LoL
I rather find it weird that people dont reckognize bad trailers anymore, Jared Leto, Jai Courtney, Joel Kinnaman not really actors that give you a good feel/vibe actors that could never hold a film on their own, Batman V Superman was complete shit,
and everything that will follow in that universe wont be much different or better.
LoL
I'm sure Rotten Tomatoes bad reviews of DC movies has nothing to do with the fact that it was sold boy Time Warner, who owns WB, to Fandango last February. RT goes out of it's way to trash DC movies. Man of Steel and BvS had it's flaws, but they in no way deserved the low ratings that show on RT, which definitely "manipulate" the user scores to favor certain movies. As always...follow the money.
Real talk, I don't know this topic too well, but isn't that kind of illegal? Seems like the kind of insider manipulation that results in precedent setting legal action.
It would be extremely hard to prove. It's no different than Sony creating fake Youtube reviewer accounts to score Ghostbusters 3 with positive ratings and attempt to boost feedback on their crapfest of a film. I'm sure Disney is not above tanking DC with negative reviews in return for movie premier tickets to a Star Wars film or opening night of their next Marvel film.
I don't care much for youtube reviewers. I don't expect it to be amazing, but I expect to be entertained and that's what matters.
https://twitter.com/THR/status/760815014018158592
Hey, maybe all of the conspiracy theorists here should go sign the petition to abolish RottenTomatoes ;D
https://www.change.org/p/rottentomatoes-com-shutdown-rotten-tomatoes
DC fans just cannot into criticism. It must be a conspiracy designed by Disney! Nevermind RT isn't an official review website, or that Warner Bros owns it. It's all a plot to eliminate the competition!
Collider review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV0DqVyj-2o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV0DqVyj-2o)
Ratings:
- 5.9/10 (Mark Ellis, comedian)
- 7/10 (Dennis Zeng, casual guy)
- 6.5/10 (John Campea)
- 5/10 (Harloff, the tough guy)
- 8/10 (Schnepp, comic book geek)
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 03, 2016, 09:30:26 PM
DC fans just cannot into criticism. It must be a conspiracy designed by Disney! Nevermind RT isn't an official review website, or that Warner Bros owns it. It's all a plot to eliminate the competition!
They think every DC movie is as good as at least as good as
The Dark Knight.
I'm not worried by reviews. MoS had mixed reviews, I think it's a masterpiece. BvS got bad reviews, I think it's awesome. Iron Man 3 got mixed reviews, it's my favourite Iron Man movie. Reviews mean nothing when forming your own opinion.
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Aug 03, 2016, 10:16:01 PM
I'm not worried by reviews. MoS had mixed reviews, I think it's a masterpiece. BvS got bad reviews, I think it's awesome. Iron Man 3 got mixed reviews, it's my favourite Iron Man movie. Reviews mean nothing when forming your own opinion.
That's the attitude, man!! :D
Quote from: Magegg on Aug 03, 2016, 10:19:50 PM
Quote from: Novak 1334 on Aug 03, 2016, 10:16:01 PM
I'm not worried by reviews. MoS had mixed reviews, I think it's a masterpiece. BvS got bad reviews, I think it's awesome. Iron Man 3 got mixed reviews, it's my favourite Iron Man movie. Reviews mean nothing when forming your own opinion.
That's the attitude, man!! :D
To quote an underwhelming Alien prequel.
"It's what I choose to believe."
In the end, no one can convince you of not liking a movie. One's experience is one's experience :)
Exactly. Most divisive movie in my house was Civil War. My youngest brother loved it, the middle brother hated it and I thought it was meh.
It will make money, but its gonna be another BvS scenario.
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 04, 2016, 04:21:28 AM
It will make money, but its gonna be another BvS scenario.
How so?
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 04, 2016, 04:21:28 AM
It will make money, but its gonna be another BvS scenario.
This, basically. Tracking has it opening north of $100 million, possibly even in the range of $125 million. It has the August record for presales. Guardians is the August record holder, BTW. WB/DC will have released 3 films, all with rotten scores on RT, but all with $100 million openings. There is interest in these characters. Also, they clearly have a stellar marketing team. MoS wasn't a bomb, but didn't perform up to WB's internal expectations. Coupled with lukewarm reaction from critics & fans, they altered course & gave us BvS. Again, not a bomb, but still fell short of delivering a $1 billion hit, & left audiences even angrier. The hope was that Suicide Squad would fix that. It looks like the consensus says it hasn't. So, WB will have another financially successful film couple with disappointment, & the feeling that it ought to have been even bigger. They're making money, but leaving even more on the table, & failing to excite its audience about its future.
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 04, 2016, 05:03:09 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 04, 2016, 04:21:28 AM
It will make money, but its gonna be another BvS scenario.
This, basically. Tracking has it opening north of $100 million, possibly even in the range of $125 million. It has the August record for presales. Guardians is the August record holder, BTW. WB/DC will have released 3 films, all with rotten scores on RT, but all with $100 million openings. There is interest in these characters. Also, they clearly have a stellar marketing team. MoS wasn't a bomb, but didn't perform up to WB's internal expectations. Coupled with lukewarm reaction from critics & fans, they altered course & gave us BvS. Again, not a bomb, but still fell short of delivering a $1 billion hit, & left audiences even angrier. The hope was that Suicide Squad would fix that. It looks like the consensus says it hasn't. So, WB will have another financially successful film couple with disappointment, & the feeling that it ought to have been even bigger. They're making money, but leaving even more on the table, & failing to excite its audience about its future.
What was the advertising budget?
I've seen the films budget listed at both $175 million & $250 million. I don't know what they spent on advertising, but based on how much promotion I've seen, I can only guess a lot. Studios spend anywhere from $100-$150 million. When it leaked that BvS had an absurd budget of $400 million, conventional wisdom reasoned that it was a $250 million film with $150 million in advertisements. I would have thought WB would spend less on Suicide Squad, but maybe not? A Hollywood Reporter article that detailed some rumored behind the scenes drama during reshoots suggested the film may need to make $750-$800 million to break even. If true, that's insane.
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 04, 2016, 04:21:28 AM
It will make money, but its gonna be another BvS scenario.
I don't think so. I think the audience will like this movie much more than what they liked BvS.
Nothing wrong with using reviews to help get an idea of what your own reaction could be, ya just gotta know who the reviewers are and how their opinions usually match up with yours. An aggregate website seems like a good idea, but you have no idea who these people are. I tend to get more recommendations from podcasts, because I know the people involved and how they feel about the subject or the media they're talking about.
I don't know what the general movie audience is expecting from this movie but I think most have no idea what the movie is.
Spoiler
Lots of people are upset that the Joker only has a small role in it... have they not bother to watch Assault on Arkham? Well the rumors of what happened are already spreading but I when I read "collection of awesome super villains" in one of the bad reviews... yea, they're just hating. Probably Will Smith back lash. :P
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 03, 2016, 09:30:26 PM
DC fans just cannot into criticism. It must be a conspiracy designed by Disney! Nevermind RT isn't an official review website, or that Warner Bros owns it. It's all a plot to eliminate the competition!
Because it is always unfair critiques that aren't given to Marvel crap films like Thor 2, Ironman 2, or Avengers: AoU. Marvel can put out turds or mediocre films but everyone just accepts them and waits for the next one. Every DC film gets crapped on before it even survives the opening weekend. And I guess I forgot corporations LOVE competition and embrace fairness in the market.
>Thor 2
>crap
Pick one. Anyway: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fans-seriously-want-shut-down-144044896.html
Took people long enough to wise up.
Even the worst Marvel movie shows a level of competence, though. Marvel are like Ubisoft, they make good products, just they can make too many of them, and there's nothing to entice you. Age of Ultron was fine. It was just more of the same, but looking at it in a vacuum with no context, it's a competently put together action movie.
I don't think you can say the same of all the DC movies. They really do seem to be floundering, where as Marvel swims too straight and too easily, and that can be boring. So comparing the two receptions as unfair bias just seems wrong to me.
There are a set series of critics I follow on Twitter & I've read their reviews. It ain't pretty. Now, how often I agree with them varies. 1 actually gave it a fresh rating for RT, but concluded his reviews by saying, "it's mostly bad." RT certainly has flaws, but it's designed to compile all reviews in 1 place & give a consensus. Ultimately however, whatever the critics score, they have to choose fresh or rotten.
I love Marvel, & I love the MCU. The biggest complaint I've seen levied against it is how similar their 3rd acts had become. I felt the latest 2 entires, Ant-Man & Civil War, did an excellent job of switching it up. The stakes were far more personal than they were world ending. Sure, Marvel has a formula, but it's 1 that works. Audiences enjoy it & audiences will come back for it. Also, I think that Ultron is underrated.
And whiterabbit, re: your spoiler tag ->
Spoiler
Will Smith is the 1 thing I've seen universally praised about Suicide Squad.
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I just see too often in reviews and commentaries a double standard. Superman and Batman films are held to such a high standard that can never be reached. Fans have such diverse opinion of how Superman should be or how dark Batman should brood, but no one ever holds such a standard for Ironman or Thor. BvS had its flaws, but it was not nearly the failure that critics make it out to be, visually or financially. Civil War was far from the comic story, yet no one hardly made mention of this, but give Batman a gun and the internet looses its mind. DC always seems to have to climb up the rough side of the mountain and constantly live in the shadow of Marvel's success.
Quote from: walker31 on Aug 04, 2016, 02:42:58 PM
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I just see too often in reviews and commentaries a double standard. Superman and Batman films are held to such a high standard that can never be reached. Fans have such diverse opinion of how Superman should be or how dark Batman should brood, but no one ever holds such a standard for Ironman or Thor. BvS had its flaws, but it was not nearly the failure that critics make it out to be, visually or financially. Civil War was far from the comic story, yet no one hardly made mention of this, but give Batman a gun and the internet looses its mind. DC always seems to have to climb up the rough side of the mountain and constantly live in the shadow of Marvel's success.
Okay, you make some interesting points. The MCU had both the burden & luxury of having to use its B-list characters. Iron Man set the standard for Iron Man. The film & character were loved. If Marvel ever reboots, it will be held to that standard. For Superman & Batman, any new iteration has to live up to what came before it. Nolan pulled it off with his Dark Knight trilogy. Set the bar even higher, maybe. Until next years Spider-Man, every film in the MCU will have given us the first cinematic iteration of that character. Also, re: Civil War, the comic story isn't often held in high regard. Marvel borrows titles, but does as it pleases with story. Yes, right now DC is living in the shadow of Marvel. Hopefully that will change next year when we FINALLY get a Wonder Women movie.
Quote from: walker31 on Aug 04, 2016, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 03, 2016, 09:30:26 PM
DC fans just cannot into criticism. It must be a conspiracy designed by Disney! Nevermind RT isn't an official review website, or that Warner Bros owns it. It's all a plot to eliminate the competition!
Because it is always unfair critiques that aren't given to Marvel crap films like Thor 2, Ironman 2, or Avengers: AoU. Marvel can put out turds or mediocre films but everyone just accepts them and waits for the next one. Every DC film gets crapped on before it even survives the opening weekend. And I guess I forgot corporations LOVE competition and embrace fairness in the market.
Even the bad Marvel Studio movies aren't really bad, they are just average or forgettable. The worst one can say about them is that sometimes they have generic stories that are wrapped up too quickly or don't give enough character for everyone in a ensemble film. Besides, for all the less than stellar Marvel films made their have been more good ones cranked out. But you have to remember they didn't start out with big A list characters like Spiderman or Wolverine, they used B level characters like Iron Man, Cap, and Thor and actually did them justice. They built a foundation before they made the house of Avengers. When Warner Bros comes out swinging with their biggest characters like Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman and they deliver anything less than average to mediocre is pitiful. Not to mention they have shown they do not have the dedication to make their cinematic universe good, just rush it all together to catch up with Marvel. Hell, the whole reason Suicide Squad was made was to match Guardians of the Galaxy. Corporate greed is what is driving the DC movies, not love for the characters or polishing the scripts.
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 04, 2016, 08:41:46 PM
They built a foundation before they made the house of Avengers.
MoS, BvS, SS & WW are all foundation for Justice League.
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 04, 2016, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 04, 2016, 08:41:46 PM
They built a foundation before they made the house of Avengers.
MoS, BvS, SS & WW are all foundation for Justice League.
Superman needed more movies to explore his journey as an alien amongst humans before confronting others like him. Wonder Woman needed her own movie before showing up in BvS, and Suicide Squad were done better in Assault on Arkham. All the JL members needed their own introduction movies before the ensemble. It makes the big team up all the more interesting because it builds HYPE! Key word here.
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 04, 2016, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 04, 2016, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 04, 2016, 08:41:46 PM
They built a foundation before they made the house of Avengers.
MoS, BvS, SS & WW are all foundation for Justice League.
Wonder Woman needed her own movie before showing up in BvS,
That's like saying Black Widow should've had her own movie before showing up in Iron Man 2.
QuoteAll the JL members needed their own introduction movies before the ensemble.
We didn't get movies for Hawkeye or Black Widow, either.
The difference here is that BvS was allowed to pass or fail on its own merits. Suicide Squad sounds like it could have been pretty good if WB didn't f**k with it to pander to dumbass test audiences.
I kinda feel sorry for Ayer. I mean no matter what cut was used in the end... to have the studio so deeply involved in your own work, that must be suffocating.
I really hope they are not going to do this with every movie in their DC slate... especially not WW.
Being more concerned with hyping the spectacle and onscreen celebrities, it appears American movie studios have forgotten the most important aspect of movies. In a World where Kim Kardashian has millions of followers on social media, the skill of telling good stories is what's missing right now on the big screen.
Of course these movies are shit. They're nothing more than circus spectacles with no long lasting content outside of being a Saturday night joy ride.
-Windebieste.
Quote from: windebieste on Aug 04, 2016, 10:21:21 PM
Being more concerned with hyping the spectacle and onscreen celebrities, it appears American movie studios have forgotten the most important aspect of movies. In a World where Kim Kardashian has millions of followers on social media, the skill of telling good stories is what's missing right now on the big screen.
Of course these movies are shit. They're nothing more than circus spectacles with no long lasting content outside of being a Saturday night joy ride.
-Windebieste.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Leto said a lot of his scenes were cut ...
Three apparent duds in a row? Sounds crazy but they may need to just reboot or something, especially if SS fails to make a profit or break even.
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 04, 2016, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 04, 2016, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: Scorpio on Aug 04, 2016, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 04, 2016, 08:41:46 PM
They built a foundation before they made the house of Avengers.
MoS, BvS, SS & WW are all foundation for Justice League.
Wonder Woman needed her own movie before showing up in BvS,
That's like saying Black Widow should've had her own movie before showing up in Iron Man 2.
QuoteAll the JL members needed their own introduction movies before the ensemble.
We didn't get movies for Hawkeye or Black Widow, either.
Wonder Woman is a far bigger character than Black Widow, and much more well known. WB should have made her movie after Man of Steel, before Batman vs Superman. Her showing up would have had a much bigger impact with audiences.
QuoteBeing more concerned with hyping the spectacle and onscreen celebrities, it appears American movie studios have forgotten the most important aspect of movies. In a World where Kim Kardashian has millions of followers on social media, the skill of telling good stories is what's missing right now on the big screen.
Better theory: Story is not everything and this generation is finally proving it right.
Hearing the movie is awesome from people who I know dig this sort of stuff. So I'm going into the theater thinking the movie will be good.
btw: heard that Jai Courtney is actually awesome in this. Who the f**k would have guessed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKaLy54AbWsHe likes it, also understands what they're working with. Yea I think this movies going to be good. Only a few more hours to go.
Quote from: Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion on Aug 05, 2016, 12:52:56 AM
Better theory: Story is not everything and this generation is finally proving it right.
Then this generation's doing a shit job cos the movies with bad stories are tanking spectacularly.
It's being reported that Suicide Squad may not be released in China. That would be a potential $100 mil blow. BvS made $95 mil in China. Civil War doubled that. Hell, Ant-Man made $105 mil in China.
QuoteThen this generation's doing a shit job cos the movies with bad stories are tanking spectacularly.
Until they go to China and enter the billion dollar movie club. 8)
Quote from: Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion on Aug 05, 2016, 03:12:47 AM
Until they go to China and enter the billion dollar movie club. 8)
Bad ones still tank there too.
Sure they do, suuuuuuuure. 8)
Well, as I said, if Suicide Squad wants to hit the billion dollar club, it'll need to do it without the help of China. Say Suicide Squad performs on par with BvS worldwide, minus China, and it'll finish w/ $775 mil. I doubt it'll do that though. Despite the hype, there's no way Suicide Squad has the same mass appeal as Batman, Superman & WW. Then again, that same could have been said about Deadpool.
Great, now the commies have joined the great conspiracy by Disney and RT to undermine WB/DC. Maybe Trump and/or Hilary are involved as well. ;) :laugh: /sarcasm
Quote from: Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion on Aug 05, 2016, 03:41:12 AM
Sure they do, suuuuuuuure. 8)
Genuinely shit movies tank and genuinely shit forum members get banned from their favourite forums. It's the natural order ;D
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 05, 2016, 04:01:34 AM
Then again, that same could have been said about Deadpool.
Deadpool had years of anticipation behind it from a lot of people. He's also arguably better known than the Suicide Squad -- people know Joker and Harley, obviously, but a lot of the others make people go "Who?" -- and had the benefit of a shitty movie appearance getting people angsty for a proper film version.
Plus it was a movie that needed an R rating and
actually got one, which gave it immediate browny points.
This new joker is sort of lame. They really need to just make that damaged tattoo disappear. It's too distracting to take the character seriously. He's not terrifying in the least.
Still the movie was good, not as good as the animated series Assault on Arkham was but for a live action theatrical film it was fine. Plus the story is all there and it's not that hard to follow. I don't get where the complaints about that is coming from. Most of the main characters were great. Jai Courtney playing an Australian, who knew.
QuoteIt's the natural order
Just like how I'm going to report you for obvious flame baiting and defamation. Ordery Naturally. 8)
QuoteGenuinely shit movies tank
Except they don't.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 05, 2016, 07:41:44 AM
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 05, 2016, 04:01:34 AM
Then again, that same could have been said about Deadpool.
Deadpool had years of anticipation behind it from a lot of people. He's also arguably better known than the Suicide Squad -- people know Joker and Harley, obviously, but a lot of the others make people go "Who?" -- and had the benefit of a shitty movie appearance getting people angsty for a proper film version.
Plus it was a movie that needed an R rating and actually got one, which gave it immediate browny points.
I was referring to both Deadpools & Suicide Squads level of interest vs. BvS. I agree, Deadpool had a bigger existing demand than SS. And yes, it got an R rating, which was proper course of action. Still, I would have assumed BvS would have a larger appeal to general audiences. It opened much bigger, but fell off the rails domestically.
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Suicide Squad earned 20.5 mil in Thursday previews. It eclipses the existing August record of $11.2 mil earned by Guardians. If it plays exactly like BvS over the weekend, it'll earn a $123 debut, which is right in line with what tracking had indicated.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Aug 05, 2016, 07:59:42 AM
This new joker is sort of lame. They really need to just make that damaged tattoo disappear. It's too distracting to take the character seriously. He's not terrifying in the least.
Most of the views on the new Joker tend to be okay at best or they downright hate him. I have yet to see anyone say they really like this new version.
Down to 26% on RT!!
74% like it
I see the film making a modest hit and making back its budget, but nowhere near the big number Warner Bros would be hoping for.
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 05, 2016, 02:35:05 PM
Suicide Squad earned 20.5 mil in Thursday previews. It eclipses the existing August record of $11.2 mil earned by Guardians. If it plays exactly like BvS over the weekend, it'll earn a $123 debut, which is right in line with what tracking had indicated.
20.5 million... that's more like a $145M opening weekend.
Comicbook fans will love this movie. Also I must admit that I kind of forget that Will Smith is a professional actor and really brought it home with Deadshot.
Quote from: Kaltes on Aug 05, 2016, 07:19:27 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Aug 05, 2016, 07:59:42 AM
This new joker is sort of lame. They really need to just make that damaged tattoo disappear. It's too distracting to take the character seriously. He's not terrifying in the least.
Most of the views on the new Joker tend to be okay at best or they downright hate him. I have yet to see anyone say they really like this new version.
He is in it much more than I thought he was going to be, or at least as the review said. This isn't much of a spoiler, if at all, but in a flashback the normal pre-joker is a more scary entity. Leto, with what he was given mind you, just didn't cut it for me.
Quote from: Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion on Aug 05, 2016, 02:11:39 PM
Just like how I'm going to report you for obvious flame baiting and defamation. Ordery Naturally. 8)
Did you report yourself for the flame baiting or what?
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 05, 2016, 02:35:05 PM
Still, I would have assumed BvS would have a larger appeal to general audiences. It opened much bigger, but fell off the rails domestically.
The title did, but between the negative reaction to Affleck, Snyder, and the God-awful marketing campaign, it really felt like they were doing everything they could to make people
not want to see it.
I'm sure it will make money but I don't think this is gonna be the success which was expected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNBbHYI69Y
QuoteDid you report yourself for the flame baiting or what?
You were the one flame baiting, Sil.
Quote from: Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion on Aug 05, 2016, 10:44:33 PM
QuoteDid you report yourself for the flame baiting or what?
You were the one flame baiting, Sil.
I made an analogy. If you took it to heart that's on you.
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 05, 2016, 10:37:37 PM
I'm sure it will make money but I don't think this is gonna be the success which was expected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNBbHYI69Y
Is that guy really trying to draw implications for the entire film industry based on this movie ... ?
It gets him views because Suicide Squad is a trending movie... the youtube generation.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 05, 2016, 11:02:00 PM
Quote from: Twin Drive Sigma Aquarion on Aug 05, 2016, 10:44:33 PM
QuoteDid you report yourself for the flame baiting or what?
You were the one flame baiting, Sil.
I made an analogy. If you took it to heart that's on you.
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 05, 2016, 10:37:37 PM
I'm sure it will make money but I don't think this is gonna be the success which was expected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCNBbHYI69Y
Is that guy really trying to draw implications for the entire film industry based on this movie ... ?
Seems extreme but lets be frank here, this year has been terrible for movies, even the ones that looked good. Sure you always get years like that but I don't think its any secret that movies are rapidly getting worse and worse overall. Even films that do well aren't really that good half the time (look at Marvel flicks). With the ever increasing amount of sequels, reboots and remakes, things just don't look good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8CpA6Oad9c
I saw it yesterday. It was ok. Not great, not horrible but ok. It was just another example of DC doing everything the wrong way round. They wanted to jump right in with their Avengers and got a messy Batman vs. Superman. It was the same here. I feel like this should have been the accumulation of several movies worth of bad guys. The first act is so clumped and they still didn't get enough backstory in.
So many of the characters barely felt there. The only ones who really shined were Quinn, El Diablo (and that was a last minute affair) and Will Smith. I say Will Smith because it was just Will Smith. The main soldier guy (whose names escapes me at the minute) had some nice chemistry with Smith which was fun.
It had some genuinely fun and satisfying moments but we'd seen so many in the trailers. Like I said, ok but not great or terrible. Definitely another misfire for the DCCU.
You mean Joel Kinnamen (RoboCop and the american version of The Killing)?
I actually really enjoyed it myself. I do agree that the first act does move too quickly and it doesnt feel like there was a second act (That may have gone during the reshoots/drop from R to PG-13). But all in all i did enjoy it. For me the characters really underserved and wasted were the other soldiers, Katanna and SlipKnot (so, so wasted). Viola Davis as Amanda Waller completely owns it. This did have a good mix of Comedy and Seriousness, which BvS needed more of. Margot Robbie had it perfectly and had the Harley voice down pat.
I do agree that Will Smith was just Will Smith and not really DeadShot. El Diablo (aside from Harley) had the best arc from the team.
Having watched it, it helped me to figure out how they could fit the likes of Team 7 and I/O from the Image/Wildstorm charcters into the DCEU and it could work
Quotelets be frank here, this year has been terrible for movies
No it hasn't, this year has made quite a few classics!
QuoteSure you always get years like that but I don't think its any secret that movies are rapidly getting worse and worse overall.
Most hoaxes aren't secrets. :P
QuoteIs that guy really trying to draw implications for the entire film industry based on this movie ... ?
Snobs are getting younger by the century.
This was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. It looked and felt like it was a stitched together from the ripped up corpses of 2 or 3 other films. There was a little bit of joker, a little bit of batman, a very little bit of flash, and the audience was constantly being shown a cliff notes version of every single characters backstory which violently screwed with the pacing of the movie.
I swear, the joker's sole purpose in this movie was to look, and act, stupid as f**k. What were they thinking? He actually runs around saying "Hubba Hubba" and looks like he would be more at home in a SNL skit. Its like if Jim Carrey was asked to play the joker in a 90's comedy. Jesus...And Harely Quin is no better either. I was afraid that she would be a character that wouldn't translate well into live action. The trailers gave me hope but the final product confirms my worst fears. She is as irritating as she is hot. She's the Jar-Jar Binks of the DC universe. Every second she was opening her mouth and saying dumb shit was agony.
The only thing I liked in this was Will Smith. He was trying his ass off to carry this movie with his charm and talent. It wasn't enough. You'd need 10 Will Smith's to save this trash. That being said I hope we see a directors cut. If you follow the production of the movie you will see that it has all the signs of being a classic case of studio interference. Those re shoots to lighten the tone, add more comedy, and increase action sequences destroyed what could have been a decent story...maybe i'm giving the director too much credit but I find it hard to believe that the man who wrote training day and directed fury could have made such a train-wreck.
Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 06, 2016, 03:19:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL7UStivFHY
This sums it up perfectly ^
Can't be much worse than the Arrow-verse squad. :laugh:
Ugh, what a disappointing missed opportunity this turned out to be. What the hell happened? The exposition piled on in this film was painfully amateur, and that's the least of its issues. Marrerom is right; this film was agonising and also unintentionally funny, DC just can't catch a break. Will Smith was the film's only saving grace, heck Jai Courtney's character was more entertaining than the Joker or Harlequin!!! I think I need to watch The Killing Joke now to wipe my mind. Director's Cut could potentially save it, but then I think the primary antagonist is so painfully miscast and poorly written. I would have preferred it if the main antagonist was Leto's Joker; have Harlequin's past relationship with the Joker wiped from her memory, but slowly over the course of the film have her remember bits and pieces, thus no clunky exposition, earned and meaningful character development, eh, a 14 year old could have written a better script frankly lol
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 06, 2016, 03:19:14 AM
Seems extreme but lets be frank here, this year has been terrible for movies, even the ones that looked good. Sure you always get years like that but I don't think its any secret that movies are rapidly getting worse and worse overall. Even films that do well aren't really that good half the time (look at Marvel flicks). With the ever increasing amount of sequels, reboots and remakes, things just don't look good.
Funny thing is this is the most in one year I've gone to theaters but I feel like I got lucky and saw movies I either thought were great or at least could enjoy.
I give it an 8/10, the movie was entertaining enough.
The problem is mostly the villain, they should have picked a different challenge for this team, not something god-level...
Quote from: Kaltes on Aug 06, 2016, 05:07:49 PM
Quote from: Hubbs on Aug 06, 2016, 03:19:14 AM
Seems extreme but lets be frank here, this year has been terrible for movies, even the ones that looked good. Sure you always get years like that but I don't think its any secret that movies are rapidly getting worse and worse overall. Even films that do well aren't really that good half the time (look at Marvel flicks). With the ever increasing amount of sequels, reboots and remakes, things just don't look good.
Funny thing is this is the most in one year I've gone to theaters but I feel like I got lucky and saw movies I either thought were great or at least could enjoy.
Deadpool, BvS, Civil War, Star Trek Beyond, Suicide Squad.
My year has been awesome. I'm totally happy. The only two shitty movies for me were Independence Day 2 and Ghostbusters
this movie seems even more divisive than bvs. So many critics ripped it apart but a lot of ppl that i know personally and respect love this film.
Quote from: Magegg on Aug 06, 2016, 05:28:08 PM
I give it an 8/10, the movie was entertaining enough.
The problem is mostly the villain, they should have picked a different challenge for this team, not something god-level...
Spoiler
Couldn't agree more and you don't really have any attachment to the "brother".
Also I was looking forward to this scene: (Most likely happens after choppa goes down).
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.wegotthiscovered.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fjared-leto-talks-joker-suicide-squad.jpg&hash=eb8a35d381414bf3cbebeb1d135ffd1b5389ed3b)
But I guess they didn't want it to ruin the impact of his "return" scene at the end.
Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 06, 2016, 03:19:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL7UStivFHY
The guy is doing the very thing that he is accusing dc fans of doing. ???
Some movies are epics, others show a single day in the life of a person or a group of villains in this case. Also lets be real here, this was basically one comic book story put to film. Same formula as every other adaption.
Still I wonder why I find dc movies so much easier to watch than marvel. Never really thought about that before.
I came back from seeing Suicide Squad and it was okay. Suicide Squad falls under the category of great premise, bad execution. Will Smith was good while everyone was meh. Killer Croc felt like that he was barely there and the other members barely felt developed at all. The Joker's role was too short for me to make any sort of judgement but from what I saw he was alright. Maybe he will have a bigger role in the sequel or in the next Batman solo film. The action was good, I give you that.
The movie is a rental at best. If you want to see it on the big screen, go see it a discount price. I felt like Cyber City Oedo 808 did a similar premise of criminals working for the Government better and that was 26-25 years ago. I like it better than Batman v Superman, but not by much. Grade: C
https://twitter.com/heroichollywood/status/762035798279491584
I think DC fans are mad at Rotten Tomatoes because they want the DC movies to do well and want people to see them. Bad word of mouth can hurt movies a lot and a lot of people do use Rotten Tomatoes before checking out a movie. I seen many bad movies do poorly at the box office because of bad buzz on the web and outside the Internet. I think the movie will probably have a big drop off due to mix-bad word of mouth.
That's what happen with Batman v Superman, Hulk (2003), Elektra and several other movies. If it sucks or just okay, people will just rent it at the Red Box for $1.50. They end up saving money by doing that.
Yeah, but all 3 of those movies (BvS, Hulk, Electra) were really bad.
As for SS, it killed with a $65 mil Friday. That caused some people to project a possible weekend haul of close to $150 mil, but Sat drop looks huge. Still, an opening in the range of $130 mil is likely.
It suffered from the same thing BvS suffered, an all over the place story and no character development.
It was worth the $11 to see though.
The movie had a smaller budget compare to BvS, so I think a sequel is likely. My bet is for a 2019 release date for the sequel.
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 07, 2016, 04:22:50 AM
Yeah, but all 3 of those movies (BvS, Hulk, Electra) were really bad.
As for SS, it killed with a $65 mil Friday. That caused some people to project a possible weekend haul of close to $150 mil, but Sat drop looks huge. Still, an opening in the range of $130 mil is likely.
Most movies of this scale do well on their opening weekend, or relatively well, its what happens after that's the key. There are no end of movies that beat some pointless record for a specific month or day or whatever. They always make these things so ridiculously granular now.
Apparently this movie was the 13th biggest Thursday of all time, errr...K...hurrah? I guess that's important? Or it gives you a good backup if the movie fails to do what's expected over the more important weekend. Hey our movie flunked a bit over the weekend, but how bout that Thursday huh...huh!!
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Aug 07, 2016, 05:44:04 AM
It suffered from the same thing BvS suffered, an all over the place story and no character development.
It was worth the $11 to see though.
Nope, character developement was much much better, especially with Diablo and Smith.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Aug 07, 2016, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Aug 07, 2016, 05:44:04 AM
It suffered from the same thing BvS suffered, an all over the place story and no character development.
It was worth the $11 to see though.
Nope, character developement was much much better, especially with Diablo and Smith.
Yea, no kidding around, the character development was much better. Although seriously, BvS shouldn't have needed all that much development... then again kids now days need everything explained to them.
Leto should be replaced as the joker. I'm thinking they cut him out cause he simply wasn't that great of a joker.
$135.1 mil opening weekend. DC should be proud. And give their marketing team a bonus. $267 mil global launch.
Quote from: Tangakkai on Aug 07, 2016, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Aug 07, 2016, 05:44:04 AM
It suffered from the same thing BvS suffered, an all over the place story and no character development.
It was worth the $11 to see though.
Nope, character developement was much much better, especially with Diablo and Smith.
Yeah, them and only them. Even then it was poor.
Just saw the movie yesterday. It was fun, but we didn't see enough of the Joker. I think I would have prefered that he actually be part of the Suicide Squad, or that he had some interaction with the Enchantress. I hope Jared Leto plays the Joker again in another movie, with much more screentime.
Rick Flagg was easily the most boring of the bunch, imo. Pretty much a bland "relatable" character for the audience, though fortunately he didn't get too much screentime and didn't overshadow the others.
With the positive reaction the Ultimate Edition of BvS got, Maybe WB will do the same with Suicide Squad. Adding back in some cut / extended scenes might help the pacing/editing issues.
Some added scenes would surely help. Lack of background for the villain was one of the major problems of this film.
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 07, 2016, 12:14:56 AM
https://twitter.com/heroichollywood/status/762035798279491584
I definitely want to see that. It sounds way better than the garbage plot we saw in the theatrical cut :/
41% drop in revenue from Friday into Saturday:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/suicide-squad-box-office-analysis-saturday-drop-917872 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/suicide-squad-box-office-analysis-saturday-drop-917872)
I expect that by next weekend we will see a further decline of 80-90%. The trailers were good. Very good. They got people's asses into the theaters. But poor word of mouth and being savaged by critics will kill any hope for this film making a profit or even breaking even. The damage this film will cause to the DC brand will be huge. Future movie will likely struggle to find funding because of this massive f**k up.
There is a Untitled DC Film to be release in November 1, 2019. I bet that will be Suicide Squad 2. Three years will give them enough to improve on the next movie.
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 07, 2016, 12:14:56 AM
https://twitter.com/heroichollywood/status/762035798279491584
Everything about this version sounds better, here's hoping for an ultimate edition
Quote from: marrerom on Aug 07, 2016, 11:26:07 PM
41% drop in revenue from Friday into Saturday:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/suicide-squad-box-office-analysis-saturday-drop-917872 (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/suicide-squad-box-office-analysis-saturday-drop-917872)
I expect that by next weekend we will see a further decline of 80-90%. The trailers were good. Very good. They got people's asses into the theaters. But poor word of mouth and being savaged by critics will kill any hope for this film making a profit or even breaking even. The damage this film will cause to the DC brand will be huge. Future movie will likely struggle to find funding because of this massive f**k up.
Not really. Considering half of Suicide Squads audience is under 25 years old, hell 76% is under 35. From a long term marketing point of view, that is a golden foundation to build a staircase all the way to the bank.
I don't think 7.6 on IMDB means bad word of mouth. Surely the movie is terrible compared to more sophisticated superhero films but there's enough fanservice for those who don't have high standards and only want to have fun in the theater. Many women are just happy fangirling about Joker and Harley, it's just the flavour of the week movie right now.
I think you all are overstimating a tad the power of critics, movies like Transformers and everything made by Adam Sandler still make lots of money, and I think Suicide Squad features enough casual fanservice to be considered a decent experience by easily entertained moviegoers.
looks like this film is doing well financially.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Aug 08, 2016, 01:24:46 AM
Not really. Considering half of Suicide Squads audience is under 25 years old, hell 76% is under 35. From a long term marketing point of view, that is a golden foundation to build a staircase all the way to the bank.
Its not the audience that the studio will be worried about, its the investors. Every DC film has been rated rotten
and under performed at the box office. If the audience drop off continues into next week then Suicide squad is shaping up to be the worst performing DC film yet considering its massive budget, marketing campaign, and costly re-shoots.. Why would anyone put their money into a franchise that continually under performs? Investors aren't looking to break even.
Have to side with Leto, how are you going to cut scenes from an Academy Award Winning Best Actor
QuoteJared Leto: I shot enough 'Suicide Squad' footage for an entire Joker movie, wanted R rating
http://batman-news.com/2016/08/07/jared-leto-suicide-squad-footage-joker-movie/
Quote from: Magegg on Aug 08, 2016, 01:41:28 AM
I don't think 7.6 on IMDB means bad word of mouth. Surely the movie is terrible compared to more sophisticated superhero films but there's enough fanservice for those who don't have high standards and only want to have fun in the theater. Many women are just happy fangirling about Joker and Harley, it's just the flavour of the week movie right now.
I think you all are overstimating a tad the power of critics, movies like Transformers and everything made by Adam Sandler still make lots of money, and I think Suicide Squad features enough casual fanservice to be considered a decent experience by easily entertained moviegoers.
The dust hasn't settled on its imdb score. Also, I've seen plenty of women pissed at how Harley & Jokers relationship was portrayed. Critics have power, but I do suspect it's over rated. You're right, Transformers movies keep making money despite consistently being terrible. I haven't seen Age Of Extinction, but 2 & 3 were 2 of the worst movies I've ever seen. I'd hate to see DC be content to just cash a paycheck with no regard for the quality of film they're putting out.
There was a lot of talk after BvS after whether the DC universe could be saved. Thematically, I'm sure that debate could live on, but financially, it's doing just fine. DC has enough fans, & WB clearly has a strong enough marketing department, to create hype for it's product. Still, prevailing logic is BvS ought to have hit the $1 billion mark. Domestically, it only doubled it's debut weekend, & barely outpaced it's WW debut. This is where making a better movie comes into play. To reach the heights that Marvel has, they need to win over the trust of more casual moviegoers.
Look, Wonder Women is their best bet. Everyone knows Wonder Women. She's been an icon for 75 years. She's past due for a feature film. It needs to go over, and big. Yes, there's Justice League after that, but if BvS & WW both disappoint, it'll be really hard to see JL. I think the first trailer for WW looks incredible, & better than anything we've seen from this universe.
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 08, 2016, 03:32:30 AM
Have to side with Leto, how are you going to cut scenes from an Academy Award Winning Best Actor
QuoteJared Leto: I shot enough 'Suicide Squad' footage for an entire Joker movie, wanted R rating
http://batman-news.com/2016/08/07/jared-leto-suicide-squad-footage-joker-movie/
While he's right that a movie about super villains should be rated R, I think its a little short sided of Leto to be so disappointed that his character got such little screen time. The movie was never suppose to be about the Joker anyway.
The most fascinating claim in this interview however is how they apparently shot enough footage to make a stand-alone film for the Joker. Just goes to show that from the beginning nobody knew what film they were suppose to making. Now I wonder if they ever even used a script.
This gave me a good laugh.
https://twitter.com/Oatmeal/status/762511013878964224
Just got back from seeing it. Man, DCEU needs to get its act together. Such a disjointed first twenty minutes. The enchantress as the main villain was lackluster. Wonder Woman and JL need to right the ship somehow. Perhaps this one will force Snyder to give up the reins or allow some sort of intelligent group committee to have creative control.
More of the joker would have probably been for the better.
6/10 is my rating.
Movie needs to make 750 mill to break even!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu-fX-tYpsk
Quote from: Tangakkai on Aug 07, 2016, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Aug 07, 2016, 05:44:04 AM
It suffered from the same thing BvS suffered, an all over the place story and no character development.
It was worth the $11 to see though.
Nope, character developement was much much better, especially with Diablo and Smith.
That's few out of an entire ensemble. :-\
Sorry if this has already been posted: http://batman-news.com/2016/08/03/suicide-squad-drama-rushed-production-competing-cuts-high-anxiety/
Sounds like quite a fun production. :-\
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 08, 2016, 09:54:37 AM
Quote from: Tangakkai on Aug 07, 2016, 10:29:56 AM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Aug 07, 2016, 05:44:04 AM
It suffered from the same thing BvS suffered, an all over the place story and no character development.
It was worth the $11 to see though.
Nope, character developement was much much better, especially with Diablo and Smith.
That's few out of an entire ensemble. :-\
Sorry if this has already been posted: http://batman-news.com/2016/08/03/suicide-squad-drama-rushed-production-competing-cuts-high-anxiety/
Sounds like quite a fun production. :-\
Honestly, I don't see how else they could have done it better without making a 3 hour movie out of it. Suicide Squad isn't a 3 hour-a-ton property. Though, backstory, ha. All of you can't be serious. Did Boba Fett need back story in ESB? Nope, in the old days we used to just go out of our way and look up the back story ourselves. Killer Croc, Captain Boomerang, the Joker and most definitely slingshot, needed no development.
Still I can't help but think Slingshot got -cutout- because his favorite finishing move was hanging people over ledges. He was perfect for a violent and dark movie, they should have used another character to prove the point.
Also Leto himself said there was about 10 minutes of Joker scenes cut. I'm not sure how much of that would have helped but academy award winner or not, his joker is bottom tier as of right now. I give them credit for trying a new take on the joker but it was probably best to crash him out 'till the end.
I often feel like one of the only people who liked this joker, and the fact he was so different from Ledger's
Watched this on Saturday. I enjoyed it, my kids loved it. I honestly do not see what the critics are saying. Each character had enough time that was needed to tell the story. Joker had just enough screen time to leave you wanting more without overshadowing some of the lesser known characters. I am NOT a huge fan of Will Smith, but he delivered a great performance. Harley obviously stole the show. The bad guy to me was on par with Ultron from Avengers 2. I cared just as much about them equally. It was a fun movie that does not deserve the bad press or nitpicking. It's like everyone has become the narrator from CinemaSins. I guess people can't enjoy a comic book movie without having RDJ saying clever oneliners every other minute.
To me, the only thing I'm still not sure about is the Joker. Not sure if I like this interpretation. I haven't liked the look of him since they released the pics, and I'm still not on board with it.
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Aug 08, 2016, 01:00:33 PM
I often feel like one of the only people who liked this joker, and the fact he was so different from Ledger's
Yeah, I didn't have a problem with his version and the tattoos didn't bother me either.
https://twitter.com/ColliderNews/status/762674493361889280
While promoting the film, Harley Quinn herself Margot Robbie was interviewed by Chewing Sand in a video called Tipsy Talk with Margot Robbie. The entire video is worth a watch, particularly for some information regarding Harley's relationship with the Joker and the bits of backstory that were ultimately cut out of the film.
Quote
"We filmed so much of our backstory. They probably realized the emotional through line of the story had to be the mission that we were on. And kind of explaining The Enchantress's position and all of that kind of stuff. And the backstory stuff is like magic. Some of the stuff we shot is insane. They are flashbacks, meant to be snippets. But I think when we were filming maybe we got too engrossed into flashbacks. Especially when you got Jared [Leto], he's going so deep with that character and we're all like going really deep. And David [Ayer] goes really deep with the characters. Yeah, so there's a lot, but it didn't make sense to confuse the current/present storyline to incorporate all of that."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4-9k-zs9VIhttp://heroichollywood.com/suicide-squad-margot-robbie-talks-cut-jokerharley-backstory/
Here comes the PC brigade...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIcEzuEWCpYhttps://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/aug/09/suicide-squad-killing-joke-dc-comics-women-misogyny#comment-80849743
It's nowhere as bad as critics are making it out to be. If you think this is as bad or worse than Man of Steel or Batman v Superman you're miserable.
What's amazing about the movie is that the villains and antiheroes featured are more human, nuanced and ultimately heroic than Superman or Batman have been so far. Are we sure these movies haven't been set on Bizarro World?
Suicide Squad isn't perfect though. It's a little too kooky for its own good in some places, and lacks focus. Guardians of the Galaxy works because you have Peter Quill driving the main story. Deadshot should have had that role here, but the final film feels like the characters are fighting for their fare share of screen time too often. I understand it's an ensemble, but at times it feels like Deadshot's movie, Joker and Harley Quinn's movie, Amanda Waller and Rick Flagg's movie (there's also Flagg's romance with Enchantress...). At the very end you hear El Diablo's sob story as well... there's almost too much thrown at the audience to care any.
All that aside, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a more satisfying ensemble film than Justice League will turn out to being.
Not sure if these were ever posted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkqyIoYAXV8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAYgZEMMWxosome unused character portraits
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/new-suicide-squad-portraits-surface-along-with-a-ton-of-low-res-bts-a144438
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/suicide-squad-director-accused-of-ripping-off-music-group-die-antwoord
I love Die Antwoord but they can't be the only ones?
Man I'm f**king hearing about the descriptions of the cut scenes and them alone would of drastically improved the critic ratings. We got f**ked and cheated by WB. We would of gotten a pretty good dark movie filled with a great interpretation of the Joker and the complicated relationship between HQ.
You can see this film was cut to shreds and jigged around. Needed more Joker for sure. It's like we got a slice of him and you can tell he was meant to play a much bigger role. My guess they cut him because of time constraints.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 11, 2016, 05:12:50 PM
You can see this film was cut to shreds and jigged around. Needed more Joker for sure. It's like we got a slice of him and you can tell he was meant to play a much bigger role. My guess they cut him because of time constraints.
Supposedly WB cut the more abusive aspects of the Joker/Harley relationship because a test audience found them "uncomfortable." f**king morons.
i think a reason they also took out alot of joker scenes were because they wanted the focus to stay on the group instead of flashbacks and joker.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 11, 2016, 05:19:52 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 11, 2016, 05:12:50 PM
You can see this film was cut to shreds and jigged around. Needed more Joker for sure. It's like we got a slice of him and you can tell he was meant to play a much bigger role. My guess they cut him because of time constraints.
Supposedly WB cut the more abusive aspects of the Joker/Harley relationship because a test audience found them "uncomfortable." f**king morons.
I don't understand it. She's a giant feminist icon. She's just as big, if not bigger, as Wonder Woman. A lot of that has come from her relationship with the Joker, abuse and all. It's engrained in her character. An abused woman who escapes an abusive relationship. Have some ball WB, should have kept it in there and taken the backlash.
Quote from: frenchfries on Aug 11, 2016, 05:30:26 PM
i think a reason they also took out alot of joker scenes were because they wanted the focus to stay on the group instead of flashbacks and joker.
This is the introduction of this universe's Joker, hes too big a character for what we actually got. This film could have had an extra twenty minutes and still been an enjoyable watch. I feel bad Leto, he was essentially cut from the film.
There's no way, on a general level, that Harley Quinn is as popular as Wonder Woman. I have friends, women, who don't see these movies, but who are all hyped for WW, b/c they love the character & what she represents.
As for Joker, while this likely wouldn't have been possible due to contracts, but the other route they could have gone is cutting him out entirely. If he wasn't used enough, you could add more, or you could save him for a sequel.
Part of the appeal of Harley Quinn is her tragic dedication to Joker. That they are not a perfect insane couple, but a master and dog relationship. He uses her for his own ends and will think nothing of throwing her to the curb but she loves him enough to forgive him and come back because she can be just as twisted back. I feel they are trying to side step the abuse in the relationship and just turn her into Joker Girl.
I felt like they made him more obsessed with her as opposed to her being super dedicated to him, which I liked.
For some reason I actually fancy watching this again.
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 12, 2016, 12:20:58 AM
Part of the appeal of Harley Quinn is her tragic dedication to Joker. That they are not a perfect insane couple, but a master and dog relationship. He uses her for his own ends and will think nothing of throwing her to the curb but she loves him enough to forgive him and come back because she can be just as twisted back. I feel they are trying to side step the abuse in the relationship and just turn her into Joker Girl.
Well Joker did abandon her when they crashed into the river or whatever and it looks like there's a few deleted scenes of joker abusing harley so they toned it down for their introductions
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 12, 2016, 10:00:38 AM
For some reason I actually fancy watching this again.
Same here, though some parts really felt like they were haphazardly chopped together, it was a fun movie. I'm just waiting on the inevitable ultimate edition to be released
Quote from: blood. on Aug 12, 2016, 12:44:41 PM
Quote from: genocyber on Aug 12, 2016, 12:20:58 AM
Part of the appeal of Harley Quinn is her tragic dedication to Joker. That they are not a perfect insane couple, but a master and dog relationship. He uses her for his own ends and will think nothing of throwing her to the curb but she loves him enough to forgive him and come back because she can be just as twisted back. I feel they are trying to side step the abuse in the relationship and just turn her into Joker Girl.
Well Joker did abandon her when they crashed into the river or whatever and it looks like there's a few deleted scenes of joker abusing harley so they toned it down for their introductions
Originally he pushes her from the helicopter because of the deadshot live triangle that was cut.
Dropped 79% on Friday. Ouch. That's in line w/ BvS's 81% drop. Still, likely looking at a ~$45 mil 2nd weekend & ~$225 mil domestic total after 10 days.
Going to watch the movie on Monday. Is there anything I should know?
Quote from: Randomizer on Aug 13, 2016, 03:24:50 PM
Going to watch the movie on Monday. Is there anything I should know?
The opening of the film is a mess. Don't expect much Joker and the it suffers from the usual action movie third act.
Will Smith is awesome, as is Margot Robbie. Come to think of it, the acting is great all round.
Fandango gifted me three digital comics for purchasing my ticket for today. I'm currently reading the first issue from the original run of Suicide Squad. Not bad so far, if a bit dated. It's a tad awkward that the villains are super powered Islamic terrorists named the Jihad, though.
Alright, just got back from the movie. I liked it a lot, minus some of the issues everybody brings up. The editing and structure was all messed up, and I shudder to think how much money WB pissed away on music licensing. Enchantress was fairly interestin in terms of abilities and appearance, but her plan was pretty damn generic.
Still, it was a fun ride. Will Smith, Margot Robbie, and Jay Hernandez owned their roles, and Jai Courtney made for good comic relief. Kinnaman was pretty good as well. I liked Leto, but wanted more of him. f**kin' Slipknot... :laugh:
Also, did anyone get the impression that
Spoiler
Flag and Waller's connection to Enchantress was supposed to be a plot twist of sorts in the initial cut? It really felt like there was supposed to be a big reveal when Deadshot found Waller's evil binder of doom, but instead he just finds out what the audience already knows.
Flag and Enchantress relationship was probably the worst thing of the movie. Also, Delevigne's acting as June SUCKED.
Finally got around to watching it, this movie was surprisingly just okay. This could have been legitimately good, but the intros took too long, Slipknot and Katana didn't get proper intros like the others, and I don't care for the Joker here.
>coulda had more metahumans
>go with Slipknot
Anyone want to bet Firestorm fans will fume their hero doesn't get a silver screen appearance while one of his lesser villains does?
Yea it was okay, I thought it a little bit better that just okay but it was clearly affected by the negative BvS critical opinion. It's also ok to say the new joker sucks and yea, Delevigne's acting as June did in fact suck.
The only marvel movie I got into was Guardians of the Galaxy... I hated Man of Steel too, but I totally dig this sort of movie. It's more fun. I still have to admit that watching Slipknot trying to slip away and getting his head blown off was more haha funny than ouch funny.
Slipknot was hilarious. I was all like "Oh look, it's Kicking Wing... oh wait he's gone." :laugh:
i gotta say, despite some story and editing flaws, i really had a fun time watching this movie. i was most impressed with will smith as deadshot. even tho he had his will smith isms, he still had the core character features of deadshot.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 13, 2016, 04:35:45 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Aug 13, 2016, 03:24:50 PM
Going to watch the movie on Monday. Is there anything I should know?
The opening of the film is a mess. Don't expect much Joker and the it suffers from the usual action movie third act.
Will Smith is awesome, as is Margot Robbie. Come to think of it, the acting is great all round.
I already like Will Smith's character from the trailer. ::) Hopefully he will be as good through the entirety of the movie.
EDIT:
He sure was.
Quote from: Randomizer on Aug 15, 2016, 06:22:34 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 13, 2016, 04:35:45 PM
Quote from: Randomizer on Aug 13, 2016, 03:24:50 PM
Going to watch the movie on Monday. Is there anything I should know?
The opening of the film is a mess. Don't expect much Joker and the it suffers from the usual action movie third act.
Will Smith is awesome, as is Margot Robbie. Come to think of it, the acting is great all round.
I already like Will Smith's character from the trailer. ::) Hopefully he will be as good through the entirety of the movie.
EDIT: He sure was.
Yes, he was a likable character. People complaining that he betrayed his character by switching from wanting to kill the team to protecting them must of not been paying attention.
Apparently Leto is unhappy with how Suicide Squad turned out in comparison to how it was pitched to him...
http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/08/16/joker-actor-jared-leto-reportedly-feels-he-was-tricked-into-suicide-squad
Real Leto is as much of an antagonist as he's in the actual movie.
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 17, 2016, 04:21:36 AM
Apparently Leto is unhappy with how Suicide Squad turned out in comparison to how it was pitched to him...
http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/08/16/joker-actor-jared-leto-reportedly-feels-he-was-tricked-into-suicide-squad
I would feel the same. If they kept the scenes the movie would of been loads better.
Someone at the Batman-on-Film forum put together a breakdown of the novelization:
Spoiler
Suicide Squad Novel-
-Starts w/June Moone. Having Enchantress-influenced dreams drawing her to the cave
-Joker breaking out of Arkham. He's pissed at Harley for trying to "cure" him with electroshock therapy. That's why he returns the favor. He takes her with him as he escapes.
-Deadshot intro w/Angelo scene, expanded start
-Joker/Harley club scene. Joker convinces his business associate to shoot himself instead. Joker is pretty abusive to Harley in the scene
-Deadshot scene w/Batman. Daughter leaves and Deadshot already knows Batman is behind him.
-Joker/Harley/Batman chase. Joker and Harley are fighting instead of a "date night," with Joker wanting to drive the car into the river just to get rid of Harley. "Hope you have insurance" is present here. Batman tells Harley, "Joker took something important away from me."
-Harley in Belle Reve
-Deadshot punching bag intro in Belle Reve
-Flag and crew, with Wallet, find Moone in bathtub.
-El Diablo intro in Belle Reve pressure chamber
- Waller at steakhouse with government guys. Played linearly
-Harley force feeding. Deadshot looking at the rain from his cell, thinking about this daughter. Killer Croc intro w/Griggs
-Waller getting Task Force X Approved. Flag and Moone are not seeing each other yet.
-Walller/Flag/Moone at Belle Reve inspecting Deadshot,
-Flag recruits Croc. Joker on floor w/knives. Maybe Joker was rough with Harley before, but now he actually misses her.
-June leaving Belle Reve and going back to Midway City hotel, wondering if Flag is interested in her. She meets up with Flag and they have a flirtatious conversation that leads to a kiss. "Some kind of war" is already occurring in Midway City.
-El Diablo recruitment. Flag talks to Moone in Belle Reve medical office. Conversation among three kissing scenes.
-Joker confronts Griggs at casino
-Enchantress retrieves Incubus from Waller
-Enchantress revives Incubus in the subway. Flag and Moone talk about how hard it will be to defeat Enchantress.
-Incubus transforms in the subway. Flag and Moone get called in by Waller.
-Deadshot, Diablo, and Croc are gathered by Griggs
-Harley, Deadshot, Diablo, and Croc get nanite implants
-Joker at Van Criss laboratories
-Flag gets an extended introduction to GQ. Harley/Deadshot/Croc/Diablo arrive at the airport. Boomerang and Slipknot are introduced.
-The squad acquires their gear.
-Waller briefs the Squad. They get on the helicopters. Katana is introduced. Harley does some psychoanalysis on the other characters, almost like a companion to the bar scene later. Croc is feeling sick as the helicopter takes off.
-Squad on helicopters en route to Midway City. Harley and Joker texting.
-"Cut and run" scene on the helicopter between Flag and Deadshot. Croc throws up. As the helicopter is getting shot down, Slipknot tries to escape but Katana stops him. Helicopter crashes.
-Squad recovers, makes their way into the city. Harley and Katana have a funny scene together about how they're both girls and how much Katana is getting paid to do this.
-Boomerang gets Slipknot killed, although in the novel, Slipknot is less of an idiot, thinking he can leave Boomerang as a distraction while he escapes. Deadshot makes the plan to kill Flag and Co. and escape, and there's extended chatter among the Squad about those plans.
-Squad walks through the city. Harley notices dead bodies in the area--they're all old or crippled, almost as if they were rejected for some reason...
- Squad fights the "Eyes of the Adversary" creatures (called EAs). Afterwards, Diablo presses Flag for info on what's happening and doesn't get it. Diablo thinks to himself...he doesn't yet know the extent of his powers.
-After a brief respite, more EAs attack. GQ and crew are featured here, as is Boomerang and Katana.
-Waller looking out over the city, contemplating what's going on. It's established that the EAs know how to use technology (which explains how their helicopters got shot down) and how Waller intended to have the Squad train as a team but the situation escalated so fast, she just threw them into the war. Harley and Croc fight EAs.
-More EA fighting. EA fights Boomerang 1-on-1, he loses and retrieves his pink unicorn. Flag gets captured and Harley saves him. Flag references the "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger" line from TDK. Deadshot gets a compliment. Waller watches from atop the city.
-EA fight fallout. Harley beating an already dead EA with a bat. The Squad discovers that the EAs used to be people. Boomerang and Harley have an argument--they really don't like each other.
-Deadshot finds a fallen SEAL from GQ's team. Flag and GQ argue about continuing the mission.
-Enchantress turns a group of SEALs into EAs.
-"We're bad guys. It's what we do" scene with Harley. Croc propositions Deadshot for a hit on someone after this is all over. Deadshot scoffs at Croc, thinking he can't afford him, but discovers that Croc has actually already hired him in the past.
-The Squad enters the Federal Building
-Lots of character interaction between Flag/Deadshot/Boomerang/Diablo/Croc as they're inside the building. Harley fights EAs on the elevator.
- EA fight scene in Federal Building. Deadshot cracks a joke to Diablo about killing many families' worth of EAs and it strikes a chord in Diablo who gets really pissed.
-Harley flashback to ACE Chemicals. Joker's plan was that she'd just die in the acid but for a moment he realized he might be falling in love with her so he dives in after her. Joker thinks to himself once again how he has "years of humiliation" to heap upon her. After Harley snaps out of it, Deadshot is there and they have the "love" conversation but it's skewed MUCH more flirtatious between the two compared to the film. Something happens that forces the pair to move on and Harley snaps out of it and tells Deadshot that "my boyfriend's gonna kill you."
-Flag and the Squad rescues Waller from the top of the building. Waller admits they were prepared to nuke the whole place but they got sucked up into Enchantress' machine
-The "high value target" is revealed to be Waller. The Squad is pissed. It's revealed that the Joker has accomodeered a chopper to rescue Harley.
-Joker rescues Harley. Waller orders Deadshot to kill Harley but he "misses." Joker is abusive to Harley and fights with her when he gets her onto the copter. There is NO mention of the "grape soda and bear skin rug" line.
-Waller orders for Joker's copter to be shot down and it is. Harley falls out of the chopper, leaving Joker behind, and presumably dead.
-Waller leaves on a helo, saying she'll send another to get the rest of the Squad. Deadshot picks up Harley's cell phone that she left behind.
-The Joker's Chinook helicopter crashes into the Midway City bank. It's revealed that Joker is on a rooftop watching this happen--he jumped out just in time. He thinks to himself "I have to find Harley." He says aloud: "God, I love the smell of burning cash in the morning." Waller's helicopter crashes. The Squad exits the building to head for Waller, and run into Harley, who survived.
-Incubus gets Enchantress' heart out of Waller's case and gives it to her. Enchantress has a much more talkative conversation with Waller about how she's going to use her to get secrets about "your leaders and their wonderful machines."
-The Squad finds Waller's downed helicopter. Deadshot finds the Task Force X binder and confronts Flag, who then spills the beans on who Incubus is and what Enchantress is doing.
-Bar scene with extended intro with Harley playing bartender.
-Bar scene continued, with El Diablo's backstory. Flag comes in, gives Deadshot letters from his daughter. Squad decides to join Flag to end the fight with Enchantress.
-Squad evaluates the situation, with help from Boomerang's drone. Flag and GQ come up with plan to detonate nanite bomb, with GQ fully accepting the consequences of dying to do so. Croc joins them.
-Squad makes their way toward Enchantress. Croc/GQ getting into position.
-Squad reaches Enchantress, who gives them each visions of "exactly what they want." Harley's vision is framed more like a sitcom in the book, with "laughter and applause" when Joe Kerr enters. Boomerang gets a vision of him on a walkabout in the Australian Outback. Squad breaks free from the trance, confronting Enchantress and then Incubus.
-GQ swimming towards target
-Enchantress' machine becomes "fully operational." It is a "long-range weapons system powered not by electricity, but by magic that had been forgotten millennia ago." Croc and GQ are the only ones still alive in their mission. Croc agrees to take GQ to detonate the bomb.
-Diablo engages Incubus. Croc gets GQ closer to the detonation location, but gets held back by some EAs.
-"More than four thousand years ago, Incubus stood side-by-side with his sister against vast armies of trained warriors who swore they would destroy the two gods." The Squad continues to fight Incubus.
-Diablo transforms and takes on Incubus one-on-one. GQ is now in position to detonate the bomb.
-Flag alone (without approval from Deadshot as in the film) tells Diablo get Incubus into position and for GQ to blow the bomb. GQ very clearly knows he's going to die by doing this and is okay with it. The team thinks Croc has also died in the explosion. Incubus explodes and dies, but his head remains with a faint glimmer of life. Katana stabs it with the Soultaker, claiming Incubus' soul inside. Enchantress begins to exact her revenge. White House people are freaking out because the machine is taking out satellite facilities and military installations, because Enchantress is siphoning off information from Waller. The Squad engages Enchantress in physical combat. The White House people want to nuke Midway City and end the conflict.
-Croc survived the explosion. The Squad, now with Croc, continues to fight Enchantress. In the film, Enchantress asks Harley to bow to her to prove her loyalty. In the novel, Enchantress asks to be handed Katana's sword in addition. Harley slashes at Enchantress, and rips her heart out which also makes the machine vulnerable. Croc tosses a limpet mine into the machine, Harley throws Deadshot her gun, and Deadshot shoots the mine and destroys the machine.
-Flag crushes Enchantress's heart and kills her for good. June Moone is restored to life. Waller survives, and takes requests from the Squad now that they've accomplished their mission, for now.
-Deadshot, Croc, and Boomerang ending scenes, as in the film. Joker breaks into Belle Reve and rescues Harley. The End.
Yep, gutted in the editing for sure.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 21, 2016, 02:25:57 PM
Someone at the Batman-on-Film forum put together a breakdown of the novelization:
Spoiler
Suicide Squad Novel-
-Starts w/June Moone. Having Enchantress-influenced dreams drawing her to the cave
-Joker breaking out of Arkham. He's pissed at Harley for trying to "cure" him with electroshock therapy. That's why he returns the favor. He takes her with him as he escapes.
-Deadshot intro w/Angelo scene, expanded start
-Joker/Harley club scene. Joker convinces his business associate to shoot himself instead. Joker is pretty abusive to Harley in the scene
-Deadshot scene w/Batman. Daughter leaves and Deadshot already knows Batman is behind him.
-Joker/Harley/Batman chase. Joker and Harley are fighting instead of a "date night," with Joker wanting to drive the car into the river just to get rid of Harley. "Hope you have insurance" is present here. Batman tells Harley, "Joker took something important away from me."
-Harley in Belle Reve
-Deadshot punching bag intro in Belle Reve
-Flag and crew, with Wallet, find Moone in bathtub.
-El Diablo intro in Belle Reve pressure chamber
- Waller at steakhouse with government guys. Played linearly
-Harley force feeding. Deadshot looking at the rain from his cell, thinking about this daughter. Killer Croc intro w/Griggs
-Waller getting Task Force X Approved. Flag and Moone are not seeing each other yet.
-Walller/Flag/Moone at Belle Reve inspecting Deadshot,
-Flag recruits Croc. Joker on floor w/knives. Maybe Joker was rough with Harley before, but now he actually misses her.
-June leaving Belle Reve and going back to Midway City hotel, wondering if Flag is interested in her. She meets up with Flag and they have a flirtatious conversation that leads to a kiss. "Some kind of war" is already occurring in Midway City.
-El Diablo recruitment. Flag talks to Moone in Belle Reve medical office. Conversation among three kissing scenes.
-Joker confronts Griggs at casino
-Enchantress retrieves Incubus from Waller
-Enchantress revives Incubus in the subway. Flag and Moone talk about how hard it will be to defeat Enchantress.
-Incubus transforms in the subway. Flag and Moone get called in by Waller.
-Deadshot, Diablo, and Croc are gathered by Griggs
-Harley, Deadshot, Diablo, and Croc get nanite implants
-Joker at Van Criss laboratories
-Flag gets an extended introduction to GQ. Harley/Deadshot/Croc/Diablo arrive at the airport. Boomerang and Slipknot are introduced.
-The squad acquires their gear.
-Waller briefs the Squad. They get on the helicopters. Katana is introduced. Harley does some psychoanalysis on the other characters, almost like a companion to the bar scene later. Croc is feeling sick as the helicopter takes off.
-Squad on helicopters en route to Midway City. Harley and Joker texting.
-"Cut and run" scene on the helicopter between Flag and Deadshot. Croc throws up. As the helicopter is getting shot down, Slipknot tries to escape but Katana stops him. Helicopter crashes.
-Squad recovers, makes their way into the city. Harley and Katana have a funny scene together about how they're both girls and how much Katana is getting paid to do this.
-Boomerang gets Slipknot killed, although in the novel, Slipknot is less of an idiot, thinking he can leave Boomerang as a distraction while he escapes. Deadshot makes the plan to kill Flag and Co. and escape, and there's extended chatter among the Squad about those plans.
-Squad walks through the city. Harley notices dead bodies in the area--they're all old or crippled, almost as if they were rejected for some reason...
- Squad fights the "Eyes of the Adversary" creatures (called EAs). Afterwards, Diablo presses Flag for info on what's happening and doesn't get it. Diablo thinks to himself...he doesn't yet know the extent of his powers.
-After a brief respite, more EAs attack. GQ and crew are featured here, as is Boomerang and Katana.
-Waller looking out over the city, contemplating what's going on. It's established that the EAs know how to use technology (which explains how their helicopters got shot down) and how Waller intended to have the Squad train as a team but the situation escalated so fast, she just threw them into the war. Harley and Croc fight EAs.
-More EA fighting. EA fights Boomerang 1-on-1, he loses and retrieves his pink unicorn. Flag gets captured and Harley saves him. Flag references the "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger" line from TDK. Deadshot gets a compliment. Waller watches from atop the city.
-EA fight fallout. Harley beating an already dead EA with a bat. The Squad discovers that the EAs used to be people. Boomerang and Harley have an argument--they really don't like each other.
-Deadshot finds a fallen SEAL from GQ's team. Flag and GQ argue about continuing the mission.
-Enchantress turns a group of SEALs into EAs.
-"We're bad guys. It's what we do" scene with Harley. Croc propositions Deadshot for a hit on someone after this is all over. Deadshot scoffs at Croc, thinking he can't afford him, but discovers that Croc has actually already hired him in the past.
-The Squad enters the Federal Building
-Lots of character interaction between Flag/Deadshot/Boomerang/Diablo/Croc as they're inside the building. Harley fights EAs on the elevator.
- EA fight scene in Federal Building. Deadshot cracks a joke to Diablo about killing many families' worth of EAs and it strikes a chord in Diablo who gets really pissed.
-Harley flashback to ACE Chemicals. Joker's plan was that she'd just die in the acid but for a moment he realized he might be falling in love with her so he dives in after her. Joker thinks to himself once again how he has "years of humiliation" to heap upon her. After Harley snaps out of it, Deadshot is there and they have the "love" conversation but it's skewed MUCH more flirtatious between the two compared to the film. Something happens that forces the pair to move on and Harley snaps out of it and tells Deadshot that "my boyfriend's gonna kill you."
-Flag and the Squad rescues Waller from the top of the building. Waller admits they were prepared to nuke the whole place but they got sucked up into Enchantress' machine
-The "high value target" is revealed to be Waller. The Squad is pissed. It's revealed that the Joker has accomodeered a chopper to rescue Harley.
-Joker rescues Harley. Waller orders Deadshot to kill Harley but he "misses." Joker is abusive to Harley and fights with her when he gets her onto the copter. There is NO mention of the "grape soda and bear skin rug" line.
-Waller orders for Joker's copter to be shot down and it is. Harley falls out of the chopper, leaving Joker behind, and presumably dead.
-Waller leaves on a helo, saying she'll send another to get the rest of the Squad. Deadshot picks up Harley's cell phone that she left behind.
-The Joker's Chinook helicopter crashes into the Midway City bank. It's revealed that Joker is on a rooftop watching this happen--he jumped out just in time. He thinks to himself "I have to find Harley." He says aloud: "God, I love the smell of burning cash in the morning." Waller's helicopter crashes. The Squad exits the building to head for Waller, and run into Harley, who survived.
-Incubus gets Enchantress' heart out of Waller's case and gives it to her. Enchantress has a much more talkative conversation with Waller about how she's going to use her to get secrets about "your leaders and their wonderful machines."
-The Squad finds Waller's downed helicopter. Deadshot finds the Task Force X binder and confronts Flag, who then spills the beans on who Incubus is and what Enchantress is doing.
-Bar scene with extended intro with Harley playing bartender.
-Bar scene continued, with El Diablo's backstory. Flag comes in, gives Deadshot letters from his daughter. Squad decides to join Flag to end the fight with Enchantress.
-Squad evaluates the situation, with help from Boomerang's drone. Flag and GQ come up with plan to detonate nanite bomb, with GQ fully accepting the consequences of dying to do so. Croc joins them.
-Squad makes their way toward Enchantress. Croc/GQ getting into position.
-Squad reaches Enchantress, who gives them each visions of "exactly what they want." Harley's vision is framed more like a sitcom in the book, with "laughter and applause" when Joe Kerr enters. Boomerang gets a vision of him on a walkabout in the Australian Outback. Squad breaks free from the trance, confronting Enchantress and then Incubus.
-GQ swimming towards target
-Enchantress' machine becomes "fully operational." It is a "long-range weapons system powered not by electricity, but by magic that had been forgotten millennia ago." Croc and GQ are the only ones still alive in their mission. Croc agrees to take GQ to detonate the bomb.
-Diablo engages Incubus. Croc gets GQ closer to the detonation location, but gets held back by some EAs.
-"More than four thousand years ago, Incubus stood side-by-side with his sister against vast armies of trained warriors who swore they would destroy the two gods." The Squad continues to fight Incubus.
-Diablo transforms and takes on Incubus one-on-one. GQ is now in position to detonate the bomb.
-Flag alone (without approval from Deadshot as in the film) tells Diablo get Incubus into position and for GQ to blow the bomb. GQ very clearly knows he's going to die by doing this and is okay with it. The team thinks Croc has also died in the explosion. Incubus explodes and dies, but his head remains with a faint glimmer of life. Katana stabs it with the Soultaker, claiming Incubus' soul inside. Enchantress begins to exact her revenge. White House people are freaking out because the machine is taking out satellite facilities and military installations, because Enchantress is siphoning off information from Waller. The Squad engages Enchantress in physical combat. The White House people want to nuke Midway City and end the conflict.
-Croc survived the explosion. The Squad, now with Croc, continues to fight Enchantress. In the film, Enchantress asks Harley to bow to her to prove her loyalty. In the novel, Enchantress asks to be handed Katana's sword in addition. Harley slashes at Enchantress, and rips her heart out which also makes the machine vulnerable. Croc tosses a limpet mine into the machine, Harley throws Deadshot her gun, and Deadshot shoots the mine and destroys the machine.
-Flag crushes Enchantress's heart and kills her for good. June Moone is restored to life. Waller survives, and takes requests from the Squad now that they've accomplished their mission, for now.
-Deadshot, Croc, and Boomerang ending scenes, as in the film. Joker breaks into Belle Reve and rescues Harley. The End.
Yep, gutted in the editing for sure.
Wasn't this adapted straight from the screenplay as well. It's another hack editing job by WB. That's both Snyder and Ayer they've done one over now. They need to quit the shit if they want good movies.
Quote from: KirklandSignature on Aug 18, 2016, 03:09:44 AM
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 17, 2016, 04:21:36 AM
Apparently Leto is unhappy with how Suicide Squad turned out in comparison to how it was pitched to him...
http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/08/16/joker-actor-jared-leto-reportedly-feels-he-was-tricked-into-suicide-squad
I would feel the same. If they kept the scenes the movie would of been loads better.
It's understandable how pissed he is, hell maybe people would like his Joker more had they gotten to see more of him on screen.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 21, 2016, 02:55:07 PM
Wasn't this adapted straight from the screenplay as well.
Yeah, novelizations are usually based on somewhat earlier drafts in order to have them prepared on time for the release.
Spoiler
https://vimeo.com/179215140
https://vimeo.com/179214781
Suicide Squad is apparently now more profitable than GotG, and that's without the the 300m Chinese Box Office. Pretty impressive for a so-so movie.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 28, 2016, 02:33:46 AM
Suicide Squad is apparently now more profitable than GotG, and that's without the the 300m Chinese Box Office. Pretty impressive for a so-so movie.
No it still has about 200 million to pass GOTG in the world wide box office.
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Aug 28, 2016, 02:36:03 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 28, 2016, 02:33:46 AM
Suicide Squad is apparently now more profitable than GotG, and that's without the the 300m Chinese Box Office. Pretty impressive for a so-so movie.
No it still has about 200 million to pass GOTG in the world wide box office.
Profitability not Box Office takings. Its the gross as percentage of production cost. SS is up above 140%, whilst Guardians is at at 100%. SS wont be able to touch Guardians because of the Chinese Box Office but estimations put Suicide Squad on par with BvS worldwide had it opened in China.
The power of Hot Topic triumphed.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 28, 2016, 03:47:32 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Aug 28, 2016, 02:36:03 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 28, 2016, 02:33:46 AM
Suicide Squad is apparently now more profitable than GotG, and that's without the the 300m Chinese Box Office. Pretty impressive for a so-so movie.
No it still has about 200 million to pass GOTG in the world wide box office.
Profitability not Box Office takings. Its the gross as percentage of production cost. SS is up above 140%, whilst Guardians is at at 100%. SS wont be able to touch Guardians because of the Chinese Box Office but estimations put Suicide Squad on par with BvS worldwide had it opened in China.
You do know SS cost more then GOTG to make...
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Aug 28, 2016, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 28, 2016, 03:47:32 AM
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Aug 28, 2016, 02:36:03 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Aug 28, 2016, 02:33:46 AM
Suicide Squad is apparently now more profitable than GotG, and that's without the the 300m Chinese Box Office. Pretty impressive for a so-so movie.
No it still has about 200 million to pass GOTG in the world wide box office.
Profitability not Box Office takings. Its the gross as percentage of production cost. SS is up above 140%, whilst Guardians is at at 100%. SS wont be able to touch Guardians because of the Chinese Box Office but estimations put Suicide Squad on par with BvS worldwide had it opened in China.
You do know SS cost more then GOTG to make...
Not according to Forbes. GotG cost 230m (confirmed by Disney), SS cost 175m including the reshoots. People have been throwing around numbers for this film but in reality it's come out as a big success for WB, I don't know of that is a good thing though.
I bet you that 230 for gotg includes advertising so you have to figure 60 to 80 on top of SS budget.
Quote from: chrisr232007 on Aug 28, 2016, 06:41:25 PM
I bet you that 230 for gotg includes advertising so you have to figure 60 to 80 on top of SS budget.
Nope that was production. That being said, judging by the size and scale of SS marketing it could easily hit 80m
I wonder how much of that budget was spent on music licensing alone. There were only what, 50 songs in the movie? :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 28, 2016, 09:49:45 PM
I wonder how much of that budget was spent on music licensing alone. There were only what, 50 songs in the movie? :laugh:
Some of the music was really out of place in the film. It felt shoved in there. Still in disbelief about the editing, such a mess. Guess thats what happens when you get a marketing team to cut the film. It looks like there isn't even going to another r cut on the blu ray either
Eh, I was never expecting an R cut.
I too agree the music was out of place. Gotg only pulled it off because it fit well into the scenes and was properly nostalgic.
Some of the songs worked pretty well, there were just too damn many of them. And they should have just gone whole hog and introduced Boomerang with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s
Extended cut confirmed on twitter.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 05, 2016, 03:41:59 PM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Oct 05, 2016, 03:24:40 PM
Extended cut confirmed on twitter.
Huzzah! 8)
I'm glad that it's happening but I hope this is the last one. Hopefully this is the last editing shit show, I want the suicide squad that was shown in the sizzle reel.
Zero interest unless the third act is completely different.
Quote from: Magegg on Oct 05, 2016, 06:36:23 PM
Zero interest unless the third act is completely different.
It's only 13mins, probably Joker stuff.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Oct 05, 2016, 07:11:44 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Oct 05, 2016, 06:36:23 PM
Zero interest unless the third act is completely different.
It's only 13mins, probably Joker stuff.
f**k it, then.
I'll watch the extra scenes at vk.com and that'd be all.
Just saw the movie, almost completely blank minded i didnt know the characters, except for Harley ive seen on some pictures.
Loved the music choice in it though, although the scenes it was played with didnt have the right energy.
The movie itself wasnt that bad but things didnt make a lot of sense, and some moments didnt had feeling in it.
I think its also a hard thing as a for David Ayer if that was his name, to make something like this,
for what reason would you put these bad guys together in a universe where Batman and Superman are alive and kicking ass.
The Enchantress was just weird not only do i hate cara delevingne and think she is way overrated,
ok hate is a big word but i dont see why she is a model, but whatever, the way she played the role and how she was somewhat dancing at her throne was way weird as f**k.
Then offcourse Leto aka the Joker, oh boy where do i start with that f**k up, as i look at Jack Nicholson's Joker and Heath's Joker,
they both had something interesting always a step ahead of the game and the acting and look awesome,
Leto comes across as a small time petty thief and he plays the role as the attention whore that he is,
as he is in his band and as he is in the movies, totally Joker unworthy!!
Harley Quin is done very good, Margot Robbie is a good actress, not only beautiful but she can really do it,
and she stole the show, although i cant help but wonder how Nolan would portrait her.
As for the rest, Deadshot way overpowered in this movie, he could single handed take out everybody in Gotham.
The Mexican dude, useless in this movie, the croc and the aussie, the aussie was done funny and i dont like Jai so props to his role.
The croc kept reminding me of Jamie Foxx for some stupid reason :D
Enough bashing on this movie, it was just a hard job to pull something off.
The entire movie was utter shit. Harley Quinn was a pale imitation of her comic book self. Making her go crazy by the joker chemicals is not only an insult to her character, but the Joker himself. What, is the Batman 1989 movie suddenly canon? Can anyone be the Joker if they fall into this magic bath of chemicals? Could you theoretically make an army of Joker's with this substance? Shitty plot device to set her up without having to tell her origin proper.
The whole retro music was an obvious rip off of Guardians of the Galaxy. It's literately throwing glitter on a log of shit and calling it trendy. With Guardians the music was part of the story, due to it being listened to on a mix tape the main heroes mother gave him before she died. Each song had a special meaning to the plot. Here its just f**king thrown in because they can. Also, the shameless Hot Topic pandering. This feels like a weird spiritual sequel to the Joel Shoemaucher films, with a mix of Batman Forever and B&R blended together. For a DC universe they are sure trying their hardest to avoid the original source material as much as possible. What the f**k is the point of trying to ground these movies when you go full retard on this.
Harley didn't go crazy through jumping into a vat of chemicals. She went crazy whilst being the Jokers therapist, she chose to jump into the vat to prove her love.
Music was my biggest gripe with this film and the horrible final act. It was just so f**king lazy and obviously tacked on by the studio. There is definitely a version of the film that resembles the SDCC trailer but Warner Bros pissed their pants at reception of BvS's tone. There is so much greatness that can be seen in this film but it's just been edited to smithereens in post. The Joker was neutered and pointless, which made him stick out like a sore thumb. If they knew they were going to go that kind of direction to on with him, then go, go all the way. Editing it out for a rating or to appease the softer side of the audience who don't want to see spousal abuse just creates a Frankenstien Monster of a movie. Suicide Squad being a case in point.
The greatest crime made against this movie was once again the studio interferance. I hope they don't get cold feet again with Wonder Woman and Justice League.
Wonder woman has so much potential just with the setting alone, if they cock that one up then I'll lose all hope for the DC cinematic universe
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Oct 10, 2016, 01:24:02 PM
Wonder woman has so much potential just with the setting alone, if they cock that one up then I'll lose all hope for the DC cinematic universe
Yeah super excited to see WW1. Justice League is my cut off point, but I'll always watch a Batman film.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Oct 10, 2016, 01:43:56 PM
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Oct 10, 2016, 01:24:02 PM
Wonder woman has so much potential just with the setting alone, if they cock that one up then I'll lose all hope for the DC cinematic universe
Yeah super excited to see WW1. Justice League is my cut off point, but I'll always watch a Batman film.
Completely forgot about the solo batman movie, kind of embarrassing because I'm actually really looking forward to it. Batfleck was the best part of BvS, and from what we've seen ol'Benny is a pretty competent director.
https://twitter.com/SuicideSquadWB/status/799294216656404484
Apparently this so called "extended cut" only put back 10% of the missing Joker scenes missing from the trailers.
Quote from: genocyber on Nov 17, 2016, 09:30:12 PM
Apparently this so called "extended cut" only put back 10% of the missing Joker scenes missing from the trailers.
It's not even THAT extended, just a few minutes, not worth the rewatch asap imo.
Yeah...I watched the extended cut the other day and it was basically the same movie. Nothing was really added except for a few small things + one joker scene.
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Nov 18, 2016, 01:25:01 PM
Yeah...I watched the extended cut the other day and it was basically the same movie. Nothing was really added except for a few small things + one joker scene.
Hey, it could be worse at least WB still let you actually be able to see the movie and not lower the brightness down TO AVPR levels like they did Godzilla 2014. :laugh:
^^ this is the Joker i want to see more of
https://twitter.com/SuicideSquadWB/status/801832786365513729
Suicide Squad: Extended Cut (2016)
So with a disappointing start to their cinematic universe, DC and co looked onward to this major project to turn their fortunes around. The first Superman venture divided audiences around the world with its dark and gloomy atmosphere, so what could be done? Well DC and co announced a 'Dirty Dozen with supervillains' movie concept with David Ayer at the helm, a director known for dark, gritty, gloomy movies, ah. So that's what we thought we would be getting, following on from 'Man of Steel' with its dark world. But then 'Batman v Superman' happened and things changed, things got lighter, brighter, sillier, more generic. The dark brooding world of Zack Snyder had taken a bit of a beating from fans, thusly the powers that be decided to change their outlook. It was time for DC to submit and embrace the Marvel universe, it was time for a Marvelisation of their product.
Enter Task Force X, a band of dangerous misfit villains that must work together to complete their undercover black ops mission in order to reduce their prison sentences. At the helm of this...suicide squad? is the hard-nosed, unscrupulous (dare I say...bitch?), Amanda Waller (Viola Davis). Task Force X is her baby and she's not gonna let it fail, the world needs a team to stand up against the possible threat of an evil Superman type villain, and this is it. How will Waller keep control you ask? Well much like Bob Hauk in 'Escape from New York', Waller has implanted tiny explosive devices in each team members neck. Should any of them think of running off or insubordination, the device will be triggered and their heads will pop. Because originality was late for work the day they came up with that.
So lets meet this team of naughty spawns, role call! OK up first is the team leader Rick Flag played by Joel Kinnaman. This guy is an army special forces Colonel and brought in by Waller to keep control. He's the only team member that isn't a criminal. He's also played in a very bland, boring, generic way by Kinnaman who apparently seems to think of himself as the bee's knees with his annoying southern drawl. It doesn't matter how southern you play him Kinnaman, its not cool.
Next up is the token stereotypically sexualised female character, that just happens to be Harley Quinn in this movie, played by Margot Robbie. So Harley is a girl, a sexy girl with blonde hair and she wears very tight booty shorts over fishnet stockings. Now there's nothing wrong with this of course but...well I'm not a teenage so I'm not gonna fawn over how great Robbie is purely because of this. Anyway Quinn has a comically large mallet, and a baseball bat and...errr...she can do acrobatics and stuff...OK there is literally no real reason for Quinn to be in this movie, there I said it. She's only here because she's basically a very popular character and that's it. When you are going up against a supernatural force, or a super powered alien force, what f**king use is a flirty blonde dressed like a stripper wielding a comically large mallet??
Quinn's love interest the Joker (Jared Leto) is of course in this movie, mainly because you need him as they included Quinn, can't have one without the other. So much you could say about this incarnation, did I like the look? No not really, its too gangster, too bling, too punk. This Joker looks like a goth teenage who's runaway from home after being scolded by his parents. I didn't really like his blinged up world, such as the gold dripping from his person in some scenes, his pimped up purple super car, ugh! just too much. I quite liked the fact that he's a basically a lowlife mobster, I liked his henchmen in their quirky masks, I liked some of his outfits such as the tuxedo, I liked some of his dialog and deliveries. On the other hand, I didn't like the tattoo's, I didn't like some of his other over the top Jim Carrey-esque deliveries, I didn't like his laugh, and I didn't like how his SWAT body armour had 'JOKER' printed on it towards the end. Overall Leto's version of the Joker was very mixed for me (what little there was of it), not terrible but not exactly what I would have gone with.
Next, Deadshot played by Will Smith...oh Jesus! So its Will Smith which basically means its not Deadshot and don't be expecting to see that classic mask either cos it ain't happening. There was never any chance of the smug Smith covering up his face for the whole film so what we get is essentially Will Smith being Will Smith as he's done in various other action flicks over the years. Honesty, Smith's performance is no different, he may as well be anyone, its just the same spiel with this guy.
Step forward Captain Boomerang played by Jai Courtney. Now this is yet another example of what the flying f**k is this character doing in this film? The guy is basically a crook and that's it! Sure he might be a good crook, a tough crook, an Aussie crook, but he does nothing, he has no powers! He throws some kind of electronic boomerangs that are almost completely ineffectual unless you want some aerial CCTV surveillance. Yes I can fully admit that Courtney is in fact one of the best performances in the film, its great to have an rough Aussie accent in the film and he's indeed funny. But alas his character is utterly useless, he's a bloke with a bad haircut and facial hair.
Straight outta da hood is El Diablo (Jay Hernandez), a Latino ex-gang member who is probably the most powerful member on the team...but doesn't wanna use them. Naturally being an ex-gang member from LA you expect lots of inane urban dialog such as 'hommie' and 'homes' etc...Deadshot uses this urban dialect when he interacts with him, which is just plain stupid sounding. His outfit seems to consist of a white vest (simple urban street wear) and facial tattoo's which are presumably gang related. This guy does little more than mope around refusing to unleash his powers. When he does its impressive, so much so it renders his human form completely pointless and boring frankly as his fire demon-like form is way more interesting. Should of cast Rick 'Zombie Boy' Genest for this character.
Killer Croc up next played by Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje. Easily the coolest and most intriguing looking character, everything about this guy just makes you wanna know more. He eats people, he actually lives in the sewers, he actually moves like a crocodile in and out of the water, he has super strength and he looks damn evil. In fact this guy is so out there and seemingly deadly its kinda makes you wonder how he could ever be tamed for the team. This guy is like a mutated splicing of Hannibal Lector and a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. The makeup is excellent for Croc, he genuinely looks scary, you're never really sure what he's gonna do, he sounds badass, his backstory is badass, he is badass. Unfortunately much like some other characters, he pretty much does feck all except for grunting here and there and wearing a really stupid outfit.
Slipknot, played by some bloke called Adam Beach. Kinda cool character name, don't know anything about him but it doesn't matter anyway because he's killed off very quickly with the old exploding neck device. We all knew someone would have to be used for that plot point, and it was Slipknot. Hell this guy doesn't even get any backstory setup unlike everyone else. Yet again, crap addition to the team, what does he do? He can scale walls really well, really quickly...oh and he can grapple really well too. K, thanks for that, next!
June Moore, an archaeologist possessed by an evil spirit that transforms Moore into Enchantress, a powerful supernatural sorceress (played by Cara Delevingne). Finally a character that could actually stand up to an alien super force or other supernatural baddies. One problem, she's a bitch and a turncoat and becomes the films villainess, bummer for Waller. Enchantress seeks revenge against mankind for imprisoning her within some relic in a cave that Moore discovered blah blah blah. She also has a brother called Succubus in the same situation, together they want to destroy the human race. Such a weak villain geez, she looks cliched, uninteresting, yet more tattoo's, a poor storyline and just uses lots of flashy CGI projectiles and whatnot. Succubus is just another large CGI demon type entity that stomps around firing out these weird tentacle-like projectiles. Not really sure what these tentacle things do to people, not really sure what Succubus is supposed to be doing or why Enchantress even needs him. Together they are somehow building this machine weapon thing to wipe out mankind which just happens to be another CGI beam into the sky with lots of floating debris everywhere, ugh!
Lastly we have Katana (Karen Fukuhara) and a prime example of too many characters in one movie. This Japanese swordswoman is here for no real reason at all. She is supposed to protect Flag but we don't really see much of that. I'm genuinely unsure why they included this character, guessing more footage of her was cut. This character looks lame with her childish Halloween mask, she isn't really intimidating, she looks too young, and she merely stands around being mouthy to people whenever she is addressed. Her sword has supernatural powers...but we don't see any of that so who cares.
This movie was very very choppy, clearly edited to hell and clearly torn between about four different plots! Task Force X, the Joker's crime syndicate, the Joker and Quinn's relationship in flashbacks and lastly the supernatural Enchantress plot; all of which is packed together awkwardly. There is also so much crapola that either doesn't make sense or is just plain dumb. Waller kills her own staff at one point, why? because they are apparently not cleared for the information they were working on at that point. But, but...why did you use them? Isn't there some kind of protocol for using the right people for the right cases? Couldn't you just transfer them to another case or something when you no longer needed them?? Does this mean Waller is now a wanted criminal??? Like what the hell lady! Lastly, Ayer makes the bad guys out to be good guys, he turns them into goodies essentially by making Waller (supposedly a goodie at first) ruthless. But does this spoil these characters for the future?? They aren't suppose to be good guys, but now they are, hmmm.
On top of that you have nonsense like the Joker supposedly going down in a helicopter crash and somehow surviving. All the special forces bullets never seem to do anything but when Task Force X come along their bullets are lethal. Apparently Harley Quinn can kill the supernatural beings quite easily with a bat when everyone else requires guns. All the special forces guys are killed willy nilly because they are apparently useless, even in body armour, whilst Quinn and co strut around in casual clothes. A simple bomb kills the supernatural superpower? GQ Edwards (Scott Eastwood) allows himself to get blown, but surely it didn't have to go down that way? And at the start when the team are suited up, they are all given their regular clothes and weapons. I get why, because fans wanna see these characters in their original outfits. But plot wise it makes no sense, why would they allow Quinn, Croc, Diablo, Boomerang etc...to dress as they do? Wouldn't they actually be better protected in the same kind of outfits as the special forces guys? And why the flip would they allow Quinn to use her baseball bat or mallet? Again, how are those objects effective exactly? The only one actually kitted out sensibly is Deadshot.
This movie tries to hard. All too obvious with the soundtrack; I swear you've only been watching about 5 minutes and the movies already gone through about half a dozen tracks! I didn't count but Ayer used a lot of tunes in this movie, Jesus! Literally every scene has a different track slapped over it, some are fine, some are completely out of place (much like the movies overall humour). Half of the characters didn't need to be there or are simply useless, painfully obvious for some. Everything simply revolves around Flag, Quinn and Deadshot, mainly Quinn and Deadshot. And that's only because Quinn is massively popular (possibly because of horny teenage males), and Deadshot is played by Will Smith, so he has to be front and centre, without the mask, which is utterly lame. Yes I realise this is the extended cut I'm reviewing but it matters not. I never saw the theatrical cut but if its apparently worse than this then...shit! Put simply, the movie starts out quite well despite the thick thick narration and onscreen text, but quickly disintegrates into a generic slapped together mess of monolithic proportions.
5/10
That Joker just looks awful and dumb.
You went to close to the Sun WB Too close did you go.
Quote from: g2vd on Dec 13, 2016, 10:42:57 AM
You went to close to the Sun WB Too close did you go.
Did u just quote Batman Vs Superman
Finally watched this the other day. Not terrible as many critics said but I found it to be very very ''meh''.
Is there someone who actually read Hubbs's reviews?
I don't believe so.
The first hour feels like a greatest hits album. The movie made me go back and listen to some old classic rock instead of giving me a good story. I enjoyed it, but it drags after the fourth viewing.
My favourite parts of this movie are the Joker and Harley Quinn parts I found them touching tbh. Will Smith seems to have bided his time and waited for a cool superhero to play and I think it paid off because he was really good as Deadshot. The action sequencesin this movie were pretty meh I thought.
I give this film 6 face tattoos.
This movie is being pushed hard for DVD and Blu Ray sells in my local Walmart. Huge display stand dedicated entirely to it in front of the aisles, with over half the shelves along the DVD racks being filled with copies. I don't think even Batman v Superman got this much merchandising with home video sales.
Quote from: Hubbs on Dec 06, 2016, 12:15:27 PM
Suicide Squad: Extended Cut (2016)
So with a disappointing start to their cinematic universe, DC and co looked onward to this major project to turn their fortunes around. The first Superman venture divided audiences around the world with its dark and gloomy atmosphere, so what could be done? Well DC and co announced a 'Dirty Dozen with supervillains' movie concept with David Ayer at the helm, a director known for dark, gritty, gloomy movies, ah. So that's what we thought we would be getting, following on from 'Man of Steel' with its dark world. But then 'Batman v Superman' happened and things changed, things got lighter, brighter, sillier, more generic. The dark brooding world of Zack Snyder had taken a bit of a beating from fans, thusly the powers that be decided to change their outlook. It was time for DC to submit and embrace the Marvel universe, it was time for a Marvelisation of their product.
Enter Task Force X, a band of dangerous misfit villains that must work together to complete their undercover black ops mission in order to reduce their prison sentences. At the helm of this...suicide squad? is the hard-nosed, unscrupulous (dare I say...bitch?), Amanda Waller (Viola Davis). Task Force X is her baby and she's not gonna let it fail, the world needs a team to stand up against the possible threat of an evil Superman type villain, and this is it. How will Waller keep control you ask? Well much like Bob Hauk in 'Escape from New York', Waller has implanted tiny explosive devices in each team members neck. Should any of them think of running off or insubordination, the device will be triggered and their heads will pop. Because originality was late for work the day they came up with that.
So lets meet this team of naughty spawns, role call! OK up first is the team leader Rick Flag played by Joel Kinnaman. This guy is an army special forces Colonel and brought in by Waller to keep control. He's the only team member that isn't a criminal. He's also played in a very bland, boring, generic way by Kinnaman who apparently seems to think of himself as the bee's knees with his annoying southern drawl. It doesn't matter how southern you play him Kinnaman, its not cool.
Next up is the token stereotypically sexualised female character, that just happens to be Harley Quinn in this movie, played by Margot Robbie. So Harley is a girl, a sexy girl with blonde hair and she wears very tight booty shorts over fishnet stockings. Now there's nothing wrong with this of course but...well I'm not a teenage so I'm not gonna fawn over how great Robbie is purely because of this. Anyway Quinn has a comically large mallet, and a baseball bat and...errr...she can do acrobatics and stuff...OK there is literally no real reason for Quinn to be in this movie, there I said it. She's only here because she's basically a very popular character and that's it. When you are going up against a supernatural force, or a super powered alien force, what f**king use is a flirty blonde dressed like a stripper wielding a comically large mallet??
Quinn's love interest the Joker (Jared Leto) is of course in this movie, mainly because you need him as they included Quinn, can't have one without the other. So much you could say about this incarnation, did I like the look? No not really, its too gangster, too bling, too punk. This Joker looks like a goth teenage who's runaway from home after being scolded by his parents. I didn't really like his blinged up world, such as the gold dripping from his person in some scenes, his pimped up purple super car, ugh! just too much. I quite liked the fact that he's a basically a lowlife mobster, I liked his henchmen in their quirky masks, I liked some of his outfits such as the tuxedo, I liked some of his dialog and deliveries. On the other hand, I didn't like the tattoo's, I didn't like some of his other over the top Jim Carrey-esque deliveries, I didn't like his laugh, and I didn't like how his SWAT body armour had 'JOKER' printed on it towards the end. Overall Leto's version of the Joker was very mixed for me (what little there was of it), not terrible but not exactly what I would have gone with.
Next, Deadshot played by Will Smith...oh Jesus! So its Will Smith which basically means its not Deadshot and don't be expecting to see that classic mask either cos it ain't happening. There was never any chance of the smug Smith covering up his face for the whole film so what we get is essentially Will Smith being Will Smith as he's done in various other action flicks over the years. Honesty, Smith's performance is no different, he may as well be anyone, its just the same spiel with this guy.
Step forward Captain Boomerang played by Jai Courtney. Now this is yet another example of what the flying f**k is this character doing in this film? The guy is basically a crook and that's it! Sure he might be a good crook, a tough crook, an Aussie crook, but he does nothing, he has no powers! He throws some kind of electronic boomerangs that are almost completely ineffectual unless you want some aerial CCTV surveillance. Yes I can fully admit that Courtney is in fact one of the best performances in the film, its great to have an rough Aussie accent in the film and he's indeed funny. But alas his character is utterly useless, he's a bloke with a bad haircut and facial hair.
Straight outta da hood is El Diablo (Jay Hernandez), a Latino ex-gang member who is probably the most powerful member on the team...but doesn't wanna use them. Naturally being an ex-gang member from LA you expect lots of inane urban dialog such as 'hommie' and 'homes' etc...Deadshot uses this urban dialect when he interacts with him, which is just plain stupid sounding. His outfit seems to consist of a white vest (simple urban street wear) and facial tattoo's which are presumably gang related. This guy does little more than mope around refusing to unleash his powers. When he does its impressive, so much so it renders his human form completely pointless and boring frankly as his fire demon-like form is way more interesting. Should of cast Rick 'Zombie Boy' Genest for this character.
Killer Croc up next played by Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje. Easily the coolest and most intriguing looking character, everything about this guy just makes you wanna know more. He eats people, he actually lives in the sewers, he actually moves like a crocodile in and out of the water, he has super strength and he looks damn evil. In fact this guy is so out there and seemingly deadly its kinda makes you wonder how he could ever be tamed for the team. This guy is like a mutated splicing of Hannibal Lector and a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle. The makeup is excellent for Croc, he genuinely looks scary, you're never really sure what he's gonna do, he sounds badass, his backstory is badass, he is badass. Unfortunately much like some other characters, he pretty much does feck all except for grunting here and there and wearing a really stupid outfit.
Slipknot, played by some bloke called Adam Beach. Kinda cool character name, don't know anything about him but it doesn't matter anyway because he's killed off very quickly with the old exploding neck device. We all knew someone would have to be used for that plot point, and it was Slipknot. Hell this guy doesn't even get any backstory setup unlike everyone else. Yet again, crap addition to the team, what does he do? He can scale walls really well, really quickly...oh and he can grapple really well too. K, thanks for that, next!
June Moore, an archaeologist possessed by an evil spirit that transforms Moore into Enchantress, a powerful supernatural sorceress (played by Cara Delevingne). Finally a character that could actually stand up to an alien super force or other supernatural baddies. One problem, she's a bitch and a turncoat and becomes the films villainess, bummer for Waller. Enchantress seeks revenge against mankind for imprisoning her within some relic in a cave that Moore discovered blah blah blah. She also has a brother called Succubus in the same situation, together they want to destroy the human race. Such a weak villain geez, she looks cliched, uninteresting, yet more tattoo's, a poor storyline and just uses lots of flashy CGI projectiles and whatnot. Succubus is just another large CGI demon type entity that stomps around firing out these weird tentacle-like projectiles. Not really sure what these tentacle things do to people, not really sure what Succubus is supposed to be doing or why Enchantress even needs him. Together they are somehow building this machine weapon thing to wipe out mankind which just happens to be another CGI beam into the sky with lots of floating debris everywhere, ugh!
Lastly we have Katana (Karen Fukuhara) and a prime example of too many characters in one movie. This Japanese swordswoman is here for no real reason at all. She is supposed to protect Flag but we don't really see much of that. I'm genuinely unsure why they included this character, guessing more footage of her was cut. This character looks lame with her childish Halloween mask, she isn't really intimidating, she looks too young, and she merely stands around being mouthy to people whenever she is addressed. Her sword has supernatural powers...but we don't see any of that so who cares.
This movie was very very choppy, clearly edited to hell and clearly torn between about four different plots! Task Force X, the Joker's crime syndicate, the Joker and Quinn's relationship in flashbacks and lastly the supernatural Enchantress plot; all of which is packed together awkwardly. There is also so much crapola that either doesn't make sense or is just plain dumb. Waller kills her own staff at one point, why? because they are apparently not cleared for the information they were working on at that point. But, but...why did you use them? Isn't there some kind of protocol for using the right people for the right cases? Couldn't you just transfer them to another case or something when you no longer needed them?? Does this mean Waller is now a wanted criminal??? Like what the hell lady! Lastly, Ayer makes the bad guys out to be good guys, he turns them into goodies essentially by making Waller (supposedly a goodie at first) ruthless. But does this spoil these characters for the future?? They aren't suppose to be good guys, but now they are, hmmm.
On top of that you have nonsense like the Joker supposedly going down in a helicopter crash and somehow surviving. All the special forces bullets never seem to do anything but when Task Force X come along their bullets are lethal. Apparently Harley Quinn can kill the supernatural beings quite easily with a bat when everyone else requires guns. All the special forces guys are killed willy nilly because they are apparently useless, even in body armour, whilst Quinn and co strut around in casual clothes. A simple bomb kills the supernatural superpower? GQ Edwards (Scott Eastwood) allows himself to get blown, but surely it didn't have to go down that way? And at the start when the team are suited up, they are all given their regular clothes and weapons. I get why, because fans wanna see these characters in their original outfits. But plot wise it makes no sense, why would they allow Quinn, Croc, Diablo, Boomerang etc...to dress as they do? Wouldn't they actually be better protected in the same kind of outfits as the special forces guys? And why the flip would they allow Quinn to use her baseball bat or mallet? Again, how are those objects effective exactly? The only one actually kitted out sensibly is Deadshot.
This movie tries to hard. All too obvious with the soundtrack; I swear you've only been watching about 5 minutes and the movies already gone through about half a dozen tracks! I didn't count but Ayer used a lot of tunes in this movie, Jesus! Literally every scene has a different track slapped over it, some are fine, some are completely out of place (much like the movies overall humour). Half of the characters didn't need to be there or are simply useless, painfully obvious for some. Everything simply revolves around Flag, Quinn and Deadshot, mainly Quinn and Deadshot. And that's only because Quinn is massively popular (possibly because of horny teenage males), and Deadshot is played by Will Smith, so he has to be front and centre, without the mask, which is utterly lame. Yes I realise this is the extended cut I'm reviewing but it matters not. I never saw the theatrical cut but if its apparently worse than this then...shit! Put simply, the movie starts out quite well despite the thick thick narration and onscreen text, but quickly disintegrates into a generic slapped together mess of monolithic proportions.
5/10
Have you ever rated a movie higher than a 5 or 6???
this could have been a good movie but stupids greedy suit people at WB took the movie off Ayer and made it a mess, we really need the ORIGINAL, COMPLETE CUT OF THE MOVIE
KirklandSignature, did you really need to quote all that?
Quote from: D88M on Dec 16, 2016, 09:21:25 PM
this could have been a good movie but stupids greedy suit people at WB took the movie off Ayer and made it a mess, we really need the ORIGINAL, COMPLETE CUT OF THE MOVIE
Doesn't the novel follow the original cut of the movie? The final version is a entertaining mess. But still a mess. I'm really surprised it made as much money as it did.
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/832003436577173507
Mel Gibson would be a great choice. Especially if goes hard R.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 17, 2016, 02:21:26 AM
Quote from: D88M on Dec 16, 2016, 09:21:25 PM
this could have been a good movie but stupids greedy suit people at WB took the movie off Ayer and made it a mess, we really need the ORIGINAL, COMPLETE CUT OF THE MOVIE
Doesn't the novel follow the original cut of the movie? The final version is a entertaining mess. But still a mess. I'm really surprised it made as much money as it did.
Yeah it follows the original script for the film, with all the Enchantress origin stuff right at the start before they get the band together lol
Ayer wrote a script in like 4-5 weeks and he wasnt give time to rework on it. WB (and probably even Ayer himself) simply wanted to make the movie as fast as they could... that is very likely the main reason why the film was met with an underwhelming response from at least 50 % of the audience.
It was obviously edited to hell. Still, I want to see more of those characters. The movie had a fun tone and interesting look. It was really experimental as no film before has focused solely on the villains of a comic book. I want to see more of Harley Quinn and Joker (and more of the other villains), and it looks like we are getting that.
Don't know why people are so negative and saying it failed. A lot of DC films have been produced since the 1970s (they invented the modern era of superhero film), and this is hardly one of the failures (see Steel or Catwoman, for example). They are making two sequels to it anyway.
Quote from: Scorpio on Feb 17, 2017, 11:19:20 PM
It was obviously edited to hell. Still, I want to see more of those characters. The movie had a fun tone and interesting look. It was really experimental as no film before has focused solely on the villains of a comic book. I want to see more of Harley Quinn and Joker (and more of the other villains), and it looks like we are getting that.
Don't know why people are so negative and saying it failed. A lot of DC films have been produced since the 1970s (they invented the modern era of superhero film), and this is hardly one of the failures (see Steel or Catwoman, for example). They are making two sequels to it anyway.
Critically it failed, but it succeeded at the box office and on home video. And yes, they are making a sequel and a Harley Quinn follow-up. In the end, the film was easily a win for WB. I just hope they don't end up making the same mistakes again that will compromise future films' quality.
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When will Liam casting news be announced?
https://twitter.com/TheWrap/status/884925651974836225
Quote from: ace3g on Jul 12, 2017, 12:17:01 AM
When will Liam casting news be announced?
https://twitter.com/TheWrap/status/884925651974836225
Mel Gibson is way better than this guy.
I watched this recently, and it was alright. I didn't really buy the premise that these guys could take down someone like Superman, so the inception was a bit flawed. What was Harley going to do? Whack him over the head with her mallet? And I didn't buy the bit when Flag says he's going to stop the witch or whatever she was, and frees the others - but they all stick around and help. Captain Boomerang immediately running off made sense - but then he came back?
I liked some of the characters, but overall it seemed pretty inconsequential.
Quote from: SM on Jul 12, 2017, 02:15:36 AM
I watched this recently, and it was alright. I didn't really buy the premise that these guys could take down someone like Superman, so the inception was a bit flawed.
Superman was dead at this point, they meant metahumans.
QuoteWhat was Harley going to do? Whack him over the head with her mallet?
She pretty much has super gymnast and fighting skills.
QuoteAnd I didn't buy the bit when Flag says he's going to stop the witch or whatever she was, and frees the others - but they all stick around and help.
'Cause Deadshot wanted to redeem himself to daughter and he was the leader of the group, so they all followed him.
QuoteCaptain Boomerang immediately running off made sense - but then he came back?
He's a boomerang. :P
I'll pay the last one.
The rest I don't find convincing.
https://twitter.com/heroichollywood/status/900127629629587457
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 15, 2017, 11:26:31 PM
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/832003436577173507
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJXmzYJi.png&hash=00de7f3ad0a7ca1ced99b2b8226ff88d562c6683)
Hopefully this one sticks - loved The Accountant, Warrior, and Miracle. Still need to see Jane Got a Gun.
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/905568613263958016
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 06, 2017, 11:24:41 PM
Hopefully this one sticks - loved The Accountant, Warrior, and Miracle. Still need to see Jane Got a Gun.
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/905568613263958016
I guess not, lol
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1090782571477135361
Quote from: ace3g on Jan 31, 2019, 01:30:01 AM
Quote from: ace3g on Sep 06, 2017, 11:24:41 PM
Hopefully this one sticks - loved The Accountant, Warrior, and Miracle. Still need to see Jane Got a Gun.
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/905568613263958016
I guess not, lol
https://twitter.com/Borys_Kit/status/1090782571477135361
Gunn. 8) Now they just need to make it officially R rated. We need
Super James Gunn on this project. ;D
Apparently it might be called The Suicide Squad and be a soft reboot of the franchise with an almost entirely new cast. Numerous reports have said that the only ones they want back is Margot Robie, Will Smith and Viola Davis.
Fine by me. I liked Boomerang and Croc well enough, but the only other real standout was Diablo, and uh, he dead. :laugh:
I guess SlipKnot really is dead, too. :laugh:
I hope Deathstroke makes it as the film villain here. IIRC, he was supposed to be in the early SS 2k16 drafts.
What they should do is have the opening be an entirely new team.........who are killed off within 10 minutes, then we get members of the original team, for me i'd say; Deadshot, Boomerang, Zatanna and Croc and add 3 newbies to that team. Keep Harley out of it so that she has Bird of Prey and her solo movie (unless Bird of Prey is her defacto solo movie)
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 31, 2019, 02:16:18 PM
What they should do is have the opening be an entirely new team.........who are killed off within 10 minutes, then we get members of the original team, for me i'd say; Deadshot, Boomerang, Zatanna and Croc and add 3 newbies to that team. Keep Harley out of it so that she has Bird of Prey and her solo movie (unless Bird of Prey is her defacto solo movie)
WB wants Harley in the movies. She was one of the most popular aspects of the first film and sold a lot of merch so she will definitely be in Suicide Squad 2. I'd say she's a lock and probably Viola Davis as well for Amanda Waller since she's pretty crucial to the team. I'd hope we would get Will Smith back because I did really like him as Deadshot.
Boomerang was fun too and Jai Courtney needs a role like that for his career. I'm all for 3 new members though. Katana and Killer Croc really did nothing for me. Diablo was a surprise but we all know that's probably not happening :laugh:
I'm ok with Harley Quinn as long as they don't involve her in the main events of the DC universe, she's been receiving a stupid level of protagonism out there, it's insulting.
Quote from: MudButt on Jan 31, 2019, 04:52:58 PM
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Jan 31, 2019, 02:16:18 PM
What they should do is have the opening be an entirely new team.........who are killed off within 10 minutes, then we get members of the original team, for me i'd say; Deadshot, Boomerang, Zatanna and Croc and add 3 newbies to that team. Keep Harley out of it so that she has Bird of Prey and her solo movie (unless Bird of Prey is her defacto solo movie)
WB wants Harley in the movies. She was one of the most popular aspects of the first film and sold a lot of merch so she will definitely be in Suicide Squad 2. I'd say she's a lock and probably Viola Davis as well for Amanda Waller since she's pretty crucial to the team. I'd hope we would get Will Smith back because I did really like him as Deadshot.
Boomerang was fun too and Jai Courtney needs a role like that for his career. I'm all for 3 new members though. Katana and Killer Croc really did nothing for me. Diablo was a surprise but we all know that's probably not happening :laugh:
Well then, we could easily have Croc or Boomerang as a member of the expendable team at the start and put Harley back in the band after lol
https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status/1100939214244335616
I'm ok with this.
Aw hell no.
Wish he'd return but I'd rather get a good Suicide Squad movie, even if it means Smith isn't back.
Idris Elba in Talks to Replace Will Smith in 'Suicide Squad' Sequel (Exclusive)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/idris-elba-replacing-will-smith-suicide-squad-sequel-1191349
I don't like when they recast roles but if you're going to trade in Will Smith, Idris Elba is the guy you want to get. Guy deserves a role of this caliber.
Marvel did not utilize him at all like they should have.
Quote from: Shasvre on Mar 07, 2019, 12:10:18 AM
Idris Elba in Talks to Replace Will Smith in 'Suicide Squad' Sequel (Exclusive)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/idris-elba-replacing-will-smith-suicide-squad-sequel-1191349
Good news.
Idris is a damn good actor.
"Um, Will Smith wants too much money." "I got it! Cast another black guy and shave his head. No one will ever notice!" - two WB executives
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 07, 2019, 01:07:58 AM
"Um, Will Smith wants too much money." "I got it! Cast another black guy and shave his head. No one will ever notice!" - two WB executives
Wasn't money the reason he turned down ID2?
And give us a good killer croc this time.
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 07, 2019, 01:10:08 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 07, 2019, 01:07:58 AM
"Um, Will Smith wants too much money." "I got it! Cast another black guy and shave his head. No one will ever notice!" - two WB executives
Wasn't money the reason he turned down ID2?
I'd like to think he looked at Emmerich's shit script and went "Aw hell no!" :laugh:
And wouldn't it technically be ID5? ;D
I dont think recasting is the way to go. They should just kill off some of the old characters and bring in new members, because isnt that the whole point of the Squad? lol
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 07, 2019, 12:41:07 AM
I don't like when they recast roles but if you're going to trade in Will Smith, Idris Elba is the guy you want to get. Guy deserves a role of this caliber.
Marvel did not utilize him at all like they should have.
Think of Hobbs and Shaw as a warm up to this. :D
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 07, 2019, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 07, 2019, 12:41:07 AM
I don't like when they recast roles but if you're going to trade in Will Smith, Idris Elba is the guy you want to get. Guy deserves a role of this caliber.
Marvel did not utilize him at all like they should have.
Think of Hobbs and Shaw as a warm up to this. :D
I imagine after his performance in Hobbs and Shaw we will be seeing the words "Academy Award Winner Idris Elba" in the trailer for Suicide Squad 2.
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1111754348722298883
Quote from: ace3g on Mar 29, 2019, 11:50:16 PM
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1111754348722298883
This im happy about actually. He was actually fun in this film.
Idris Elba will NOT play Deadshot in the film, but has instead been recast as a new character. (https://variety.com/2019/film/news/suicide-squad-sequel-idris-elba-new-character-1203181518/)
The completely new and different character Killshot. :)
Brixton. ;D
Make it a capital X for the cool effect. 8)
Bronze Tiger baby!
When is a Reboot not a Reboot.
Quote from: MudButt on Apr 05, 2019, 10:25:42 PM
Bronze Tiger baby!
That's actually a really good choice.
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Apr 06, 2019, 11:38:58 AM
When is a Reboot not a Reboot.
Maybe it's an alternate boot? The shoe is on the other foot...
Quote from: Stitch on Apr 07, 2019, 07:40:59 AM
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Apr 06, 2019, 11:38:58 AM
When is a Reboot not a Reboot.
Maybe it's an alternate boot? The shoe is on the other foot...
Its Kiss without the Make up lol
What we need is a slip n' slide squad(tm) movie, with just Harley, catwoman, and ivy.
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 07, 2019, 06:58:13 PM
What we need is a slip n' slide squad(tm) movie, with just Harley, catwoman, and ivy.
Gotham City Sirens
John Cena!
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicide_squad/bumblebee-actor-john-cena-is-in-talks-for-a-role-in-james-gunns-suicide-squad-sequel-a167852
James Gunn offering it to his main man Bautista first though. 8)
David Dastmalchian Cast as Polka Dot Man (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/suicide-squad-sequel-casts-david-dastmalchian-as-polka-dot-man-1205280)
https://twitter.com/krolljvar/status/1123364929598189568
So Slipknot and Enchantras have there replacements then lol
https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/1126626077743304704
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1128303970689089536
Quote from: ace3g on May 15, 2019, 12:04:39 AM
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1128303970689089536
Always a good choice.
Adding to his collection.
https://twitter.com/ComicBook_Movie/status/1133835719099596801
Yay?
One does not simply toss away the Flag.
Steve Agee will be voicing King Shark.
https://deadline.com/2019/08/suicide-squad-james-gunn-casts-steve-agee-king-shark-1202703447/
https://twitter.com/empiremagazine/status/1165707919586816001
Oh i cant wait to find out who Nathan Fillion is playing
Taika Waititi is in talks to join this too. 8)
https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/08/27/taika-waititi-in-talks-to-join-james-gunns-the-suicide-squad/amp?__twitter_impression=true
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 27, 2019, 07:25:50 PM
Taika Waititi is in talks to join this too. 8)
https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/08/27/taika-waititi-in-talks-to-join-james-gunns-the-suicide-squad/amp?__twitter_impression=true
As he kicks away Katana's sword
"P**s Off Ghosts"
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1172598575257346049
So very excited for this. Loving the cast, love Gunn... this is what we should have gotten the first time around.
Kinnaman is still a huge bore. :-\
Quote from: Shasvre on Sep 13, 2019, 08:41:30 PM
Kinnaman is still a huge bore. :-\
He was generic military guy in the first one right? I don't recall anything about him TBH.
I typically find Jai Courtney to be bland as can be, but he is probably the only thing I remember slightly fondly from the first Suicide Squad.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 13, 2019, 08:43:27 PMHe was generic military guy in the first one right? I don't recall anything about him TBH.
I typically find Jai Courtney to be bland as can be, but he is probably the only thing I remember slightly fondly from the first Suicide Squad.
That's him. Hopefully he takes the backseat towards a more colourful cast this time around. Though I would have prefered to see Katana return.
It definitely sucks that we missed out on Tom Hardy as Flag.
Sad that unless Killer Croc has been recast he's the only surviving Squad member not to come back
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Sep 14, 2019, 08:12:31 AM
Sad that unless Killer Croc has been recast he's the only surviving Squad member not to come back
Can't see Katana, El Diablo or Deadshot on that cast list either.
Quote from: Shasvre on Sep 14, 2019, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: Whiskeybrewer on Sep 14, 2019, 08:12:31 AM
Sad that unless Killer Croc has been recast he's the only surviving Squad member not to come back
Can't see Katana, El Diablo or Deadshot on that cast list either.
I forgot about Katana. again unless that's a recast.
Didn't El Diablo die after turning into the giant flaming Aztec thing?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 15, 2019, 10:11:45 AM
Didn't El Diablo die after turning into the giant flaming Aztec thing?
Yeah he did. They blew him up
Quote from: KiramidHead on Sep 15, 2019, 10:11:45 AM
Didn't El Diablo die after turning into the giant flaming Aztec thing?
Oh, forgot about that. Haven't seen it since the release. :D
To be honest I forgot that both El Diablo and Katana existed. :D
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 15, 2019, 11:36:31 AM
To be honest I forgot that both El Diablo and Katana existed. :D
Karen Fukuhara is being awesome in The Boys instead. 8)
I remember Slipknot. :D
This is Katana, she's got my back.
I would advise not getting killed by her.
Costumes Shown in Set Photos (Spoilers... kinda) (http://www.justjared.com/2019/10/11/the-suicide-squad-cast-spotted-in-costume-for-big-group-scene-new-photos/)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Oct 11, 2019, 11:36:53 PM
Costumes Shown in Set Photos (Spoilers... kinda) (http://www.justjared.com/2019/10/11/the-suicide-squad-cast-spotted-in-costume-for-big-group-scene-new-photos/)
I imagine most of these people will do about as well as Deadpool's X-Force team. :laugh:
I bet a load of them will only be the opening sequence
Well they're being chatty with Boomerang, and we all know how well that went for Slipknot. :laugh:
Awesome, can't wait to see them all die instantaneously.
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1184866663986028545
https://www.instagram.com/p/B39-0fkHyfE/https://www.instagram.com/p/B39-0fkHyfE/
Interesting she's still wearing the Pudding thing
These are shots from the first film.
Of course they are :D :laugh:
https://twitter.com/JustJared/status/1230232337956274177?s
I'm severely conflicted about this movie.
What dark god do I have to deal with to get a normal Harley Quinn outfit?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 19, 2020, 11:29:34 PM
What dark god do I have to deal with to get a normal Harley Quinn outfit?
It depends. What's your size?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 19, 2020, 11:29:34 PM
What dark god do I have to deal with to get a normal Harley Quinn outfit?
Like the one she wore in the flashback scene?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 20, 2020, 12:08:07 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 19, 2020, 11:29:34 PM
What dark god do I have to deal with to get a normal Harley Quinn outfit?
Like the one she wore in the flashback scene?
I confess I've forgotten most of the details of Suicide Squad...
Quote from: KiramidHead on Feb 19, 2020, 11:29:34 PM
What dark god do I have to deal with to get a normal Harley Quinn outfit?
I swear they're trying to turn her into Madonna for millennials.
(https://i.imgur.com/9CZb5ac.jpg)
Anyway, maybe it's time for Joker's new girlfriend.
(https://i.imgur.com/JvNlXFo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PdGesYA.jpg)
So wait we get a remake where half of the cast is the original? :D Like at the restaurant after sending back a bad food they serve you with the same but on a different plate with new side dish? :D
Quote from: szkoki on Feb 20, 2020, 08:48:51 AM
So wait we get a remake where half of the cast is the original? :D Like at the restaurant after sending back a bad food they serve you with the same but on a different plate with new side dish? :D
Well, there are three actors from SS in this (Viola Davis, Jai Courtney, and Margot Robbie), which I think is less than half the cast, and nobody anywhere ever described TSS as a remake. Gunn himself compared the film to another creative team relaunching a comic, which puts it vaguely in continuity with the previous one, retaining a few elements of the writer's choosing and otherwise, starting from scratch with a whole new story.
I like Elba, but I hate recastings. :-\
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 20, 2020, 04:33:14 PM
I like Elba, but I hate recastings. :-\
He isn't playing Will Smith's character.
Yeah, I just Googled it and you're right. Oh well, forget what I just said then. Bring on SS2!
Someone make sure the cork is on Local's fork... :D
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5fy6oG3Gy1qi66kho1_500.gif)
I could have sworn they were going to pull a Rhodey with Deadshot. Wasn't that the initial report?
I'm also glad that Viola Davis is back as Waller.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 20, 2020, 05:04:06 PM
I could have sworn they were going to pull a Rhodey with Deadshot. Wasn't that the initial report?
I believe initially it was, then later clarified.
I wonder if WB learned anything from the marketing of BoP.
It was never a confirmed report. Just baseless speculation when it broke that he was in the movie, that some sites ran with without proper sources.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Feb 20, 2020, 05:25:56 PM
It was never a confirmed report. Just baseless speculation when it broke that he was in the movie, that some sites ran with without proper sources.
It's hard not to trust an industry standard like Variety though:
Idris Elba Replaces Will Smith as Deadshot in 'Suicide Squad' Sequelhttps://variety.com/2019/film/news/idris-elba-will-smith-deadshot-suicide-squad-sequel-1203154025/
I hope they can get Smith back in the future. Him, Robbie, and Viola Davis were the best parts of the first movie.
Only looking forward to this cause James Gunn is involved, which is still kinda surreal.
Yeah it's certainly curious.
I hope they give Harley a male gaze costume again. I like T&A and I refuse to be ashamed of that.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/eysodj3C1ywJq/giphy.gif)
Gotta say, I liked the Birds of Prey outfits a whole lot more. Colourful and fun.
I prefer skimpy and hot.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 21, 2020, 09:24:49 PM
I hope they give Harley a male gaze costume again. I like T&A and I refuse to be ashamed of that.
https://media.giphy.com/media/eysodj3C1ywJq/giphy.gif
I thought you preferred N.U.N.?
I wouldn't mind seeing Margot Robbie in a skimpy nun's habit either.
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1233539084909453312
https://twitter.com/slashfilm/status/1258494595177934853
https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1259555918255030273
Ayer wants his director's cut now.
https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1263181922592673792
A version of this with competent editing would be nice.
https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1264976357718515719
https://twitter.com/DanielRPK/status/1272881790760476675
https://twitter.com/TheWrap/status/1272876814046621697
Sounds cool but I prefer Zack Snyder over David Ayer.
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1290773597531693057
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1291041222258089989
(https://images2.imgbox.com/3b/db/0QFKif5y_o.jpg)
Panel up next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8tWKJwyG6Yhttps://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1297250125287325696
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1297250121755762688
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1297250119998300160
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1297250118207340544
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1297250125287325696
Well, that looked like an absolute blast. ;D
Hell YES!
This is why I prefer DC over Marvel: because at least they'll take risks and experiment. Even though they fail sometimes, I still appreciate the effort. All Marvel does is take the safe route and make the same cookie-cutter superhero movie every time. Love Harley's new outfit, shame half the cast of the first film is gone though.
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 22, 2020, 07:27:04 PM
Douchey Captain America, lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImYeXnr13Q
I can't get over how much I love this.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CENC7pugBh9/?igshid=3o52bg0lb2pl
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Did that one guy mention "exploding genitals"? :laugh:
Didn't expect it to be in continuity, since it was supposed to be a soft reboot. Also didn't expect SO MANY CHARACTERS! This should be interesting!
So is Taika playing King Shark? I hope so.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 22, 2020, 08:08:03 PM
So is Taika playing King Shark? I hope so.
Nope, Steve Agee is. No word on who Taika is so I'm kind of thinking he might be the villain.
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 22, 2020, 07:52:22 PM
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Harley in dress version:
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgDLz0HU8AAdJQN?format=jpg&name=large)
**Some other minor differences between the two.
Thanks! ;D
Can't wait to see Fillion remove his arms.
Sean Gunn on Collaborating with His Brother James on 'The Suicide Squad'
https://discussingfilm.net/2020/08/22/sean-gunn-on-collaborating-with-his-brother-james-on-the-suicide-squad-exclusive-interview/
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1297588419959259136
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Weasel needs a bath.
Katana's not in this... who has Flag's back now?
Weasel.
Some promo art
(https://images2.imgbox.com/b1/57/oJvvxDhJ_o.jpg)
Just give me footage of Nathan Fillion beating someone up with his detached arm.
The movie looks crazy in a good way, i hope Gunn delivers, and that we can get the Ayer cut...
Might have figured out who the main villain in this is and if it is true, then I am
so in.
Spoiler
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See it? No? We can enhance then...
Spoiler
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STARRO!
I hope with what a mess the Birds of Prey movie was, that they'll not have Harley Quinn front and center. Or give us a completely new take on her..
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 28, 2020, 01:47:35 AM
Might have figured out who the main villain in this is and if it is true, then I am so in.
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgY-HXLUYAEqHAJ?format=jpg&name=large)
See it? No? We can enhance then...
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgY-I75UcAICBZq?format=jpg&name=medium)
STARRO!
Another shot, also taken from the FanDome BTS reel:
Spoiler
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgYn87NUcAA_B9i?format=jpg&name=medium)
And there's also a shot with some glass vats with some orange liquid in them in the footage. I'm guessing now that those might be used to store some of the small mind controlling starfish spawn of Starro, like the tubes with the Facehuggers in them that the colonists were studying in Aliens.
Also, the rumor circulating now is that Taika Waititi will be voicing Starro. After seeing how great a job James Gunn did bringing Ego the Living Planet to life in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, I am very excited to see his take on Starro the Conqueror. 8)
If I had to guess, I'd bet The Suicide Squad winds up structured like Predator. Waller and Flagg will rally the team to go to this island (where all the action in the BTS reel seemed to be set) under the assumption that they are taking down some foreign military unit, and they discover around the midpoint that these guys that are holding the island actually discovered Starro, who crashed to Earth, and have been doing experiments on him. At some point, probably before the Suicide Squad arrives to the island, or shortly after, Starro broke free and began taking over operations and at the midpoint of the film it suddenly shifts from a war movie to a sci-fi/horror movie...
NA just confirmed himself as James Gunn.
Quote from: Shasvre on Aug 28, 2020, 01:12:36 PM
NA just confirmed himself as James Gunn.
I mean, if I was making superhero movies, you bet these are the kind of characters I would use. :D
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 28, 2020, 12:56:23 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 28, 2020, 01:47:35 AM
Might have figured out who the main villain in this is and if it is true, then I am so in.
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgY-HXLUYAEqHAJ?format=jpg&name=large)
See it? No? We can enhance then...
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgY-I75UcAICBZq?format=jpg&name=medium)
STARRO!
Another shot, also taken from the FanDome BTS reel:
Spoiler
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgYn87NUcAA_B9i?format=jpg&name=medium)
And there's also a shot with some glass vats with some orange liquid in them in the footage. I'm guessing now that those might be used to store some of the small mind controlling starfish spawn of Starro, like the tubes with the Facehuggers in them that the colonists were studying in Aliens.
Also, the rumor circulating now is that Taika Waititi will be voicing Starro. After seeing how great a job James Gunn did bringing Ego the Living Planet to life in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, I am very excited to see his take on Starro the Conqueror. 8)
If I had to guess, I'd bet The Suicide Squad winds up structured like Predator. Waller and Flagg will rally the team to go to this island (where all the action in the BTS reel seemed to be set) under the assumption that they are taking down some foreign military unit, and they discover around the midpoint that these guys that are holding the island actually discovered Starro, who crashed to Earth, and have been doing experiments on him. At some point, probably before the Suicide Squad arrives to the island, or shortly after, Starro broke free and began taking over operations and at the midpoint of the film it suddenly shifts from a war movie to a sci-fi/horror movie...
If that is the case, then I am so down for that. Sounds like a good theory, as well!
Another rumor I've been seeing go around.
Spoiler
Apparently the Suicide Squad in this film is actually split into two separate teams. Waller sends the first team out early on and they get attacked (and taken over by Starro) so then she has to send over a second Squad to investigate and they encounter the mind controlled first Squad. This makes sense given the huge roster of characters that the movie has.
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(https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/suicide-squad-2-full-cast-roster-dceu.png?fit=1918%2C931)
These two shots from the BTS reel seem to reinforce that, since there isn't really any overlap in the two teams beyond Rick Flagg.
Meanwhile on Powerless.
(https://images2.imgbox.com/80/4a/4IWZKMix_o.jpg)
Quote from: Shasvre on Aug 28, 2020, 06:55:34 PM
Meanwhile on Powerless.
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Photos Taken Moments Before Disaster(https://img.fireden.net/co/image/1510/72/1510722200861.gif)
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 28, 2020, 06:30:04 PM
Another rumor I've been seeing go around.
Spoiler
Apparently the Suicide Squad in this film is actually split into two separate teams. Waller sends the first team out early on and they get attacked (and taken over by Starro) so then she has to send over a second Squad to investigate and they encounter the mind controlled first Squad. This makes sense given the huge roster of characters that the movie has.
(https://img.cinemablend.com/filter:scale/quill/c/0/5/f/6/b/c05f6b61a9470750cb6b81811b593b3e91e6c23e.jpg?mw=600)
(https://www.denofgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/suicide-squad-2-full-cast-roster-dceu.png?fit=1918%2C931)
These two shots from the BTS reel seem to reinforce that, since there isn't really any overlap in the two teams beyond Rick Flagg.
Can't argue with that. Really liking what I'm hearing about this so far. :)
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1299035128648175616
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1300156079272112128
Just realized Polka Dot Man's actor was in The Dark Knight...
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Margot Robbie:
QuoteWhen you watch the movie, it's probably about halfway through. There's an insane sequence that Harley does, which was one of the most difficult things I've ever shot on screen. We shot it in like four days, and I remember looking at the schedule and being like, 'Oh my God, we're not going to be able to do this. This is gonna be impossible.' And we did it, but it was hard, and I was beat up by the end of it — like, really beat up. But James was actually just texting me before and he said that scene looks amazing. That whole sequence apparently looks really cool. When you see the movie, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.
I hope it will be r Rated movie.
Jai Courtney discusses this film
https://collider.com/the-suicide-squad-jai-courtney-captain-boomerang-details
QuoteCourtney teased what Gunn is bringing to the franchise—"creatures and monsters and things", oh my!—as well as what the film's status as "not necessarily" a sequel means for the future
"Creatures and monsters and things" is a phrase I very much like to hear. Can't wait for Starro. 8)
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1310316521999089667
"I've shot giant tentacles as much as anyone."
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QuoteFor instance, I've shot giant tentacles as much as anyone &, after many attempts, they can't be done practically.
Pfft. Say hello to my little friend here
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Spoiler
Oh wait ...
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Dammit
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1319670002610434048
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It really is night and day compared to the first one. Man, I'm loving this.
King Shark is wearing swim trunks. :D
I guess Katana no longer has Flag's back.
That rat has Ratcatcher 2's back, though.
The Suicide Squad: James Gunn On How It Relates To David Ayer's Film, And Why It's Different From Guardians
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/the-suicide-squad-james-gunn-relates-david-ayer-film-different-guardians-exclusive-images/
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HQ
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That second shot really does reinforce the
Predator feeling I'm getting from this movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k2bJ7a5VQo
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 26, 2020, 03:06:24 PM
That second shot really does reinforce the Predator feeling I'm getting from this movie.
Was thinking the same thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6RL2ZrEY7U
Ha! You posted that just as I was editing mine to include a link. :D
But yeah, I really feel like first Squad team that arrives on the island is going to play the role of Hopper's team and be Starro'd, and the second Suicide Squad team (the one with Harley) isn't going to find out about all of the Starro/sc-fi horror stuff until after they take out their human target.
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Starro better keep his suction cups off of Sebastian.
So we know more about the plot.
Spoiler
First they send the first team to destroy the target, maybe in that moment they meet Starro that kills some of them and take control of others. Then a second team is sent to investigate, we can see a fight between the first team and the second one before the final fight against Starr.o
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The Suicide Squad: James Gunn Reconnected With Marvel One Day After Joining DC Movie
QuoteJames Gunn found out that he would be able to return for Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 3 one day after he'd already signed up to make The Suicide Squad for DC, he tells Empire. The director was briefly ousted from Marvel in the summer of 2018 after historic offensive joke tweets caused an online storm, with Walt Disney Studios chairman Alan Horn stating that they were "indefensible and inconsistent with our studio's values". With his future at Marvel cut short, Gunn began talks with DC and picked The Suicide Squad as the property he most wanted to get stuck into – though Disney eventually reinstated Gunn in the MCU following a heartfelt apology for his old social media posts.
In Empire's world-exclusive The Suicide Squad issue – featuring Gunn's first interview about his new DC movie – the filmmaker reflected on reconnecting with Disney and Marvel. It is ultimately a happy ending, with Gunn set to finish The Suicide Squad before blasting back to the Guardians – though it did lead to some awkward conversations with his former studio. "It was a happy ending, but it was also scary, because I actually got the call from Alan Horn long before it was announced: it happened literally the day after I agreed to do The Suicide Squad," says Gunn.
After hearing from Horn, Gunn knew he had to update MCU head honcho Kevin Feige on his next project – who, when told it was a DC movie, asked: "Is it Superman?" Gunn stated that it wasn't Superman ("That was a possibility," he tells Empire) and explained that he had chosen The Suicide Squad. Feige's reaction? "Please, please make a good movie. Just... make a great movie." While Marvel and DC have always been rivals – the 'Big Two' – in the comic book industry, Gunn hasn't had to keep his latest project secret from his friends at the MCU. "Kevin knew who all those characters were for months before we revealed them at FanDome," he says. "He still knows who the villain is. I think he's pretty trustworthy with his NDA!"
https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/the-suicide-squad-james-gunn-reconnected-marvel-one-day-after-joining-dc/
In your opinion will it be Rater R?
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Quote from: Andrea90 on Oct 29, 2020, 09:08:09 PM
In your opinion will it be Rater R?
If I had to guess, yeah. Especially given the way they're marketing Gunn's spinoff
Peacemaker series:
(https://deadline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/PEACEMAKER_Icon_Twitter_Feed_1200x675.jpg?w=1024)
I still haven't seen it, but
Bird of Prey was also rated R.
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1321878922917629952
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHlVfoypWmF/?utm_source=ig_embed
YOOOOOO!
NOTHING IS OVER!
Quote from: ace3g on Nov 14, 2020, 08:41:56 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHlVfoypWmF/?utm_source=ig_embed
He looks like mashed potato
What role? A cameo i think like GotG 2.
I thought the same
Well filming it wrapped and it seems like they aren't doing any reshoots with the core cast, so yeah, I'd imagine this isn't a big part. Still pretty neat, though. I wonder who he's playing...
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1327748309298020353
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1344543587669659648
Great.
We are getting multiple head explosions 8)
What previous Suicide Squad movie was rated ?
pg13.
The only cinecomics Rated R are Deadpool, Deadpool 2, Logan, Joker, Bird of Prey, BvS Ultimate Edition.
Quote from: Andrea90 on Jan 05, 2021, 02:52:33 PM
pg13.
The only cinecomics Rated R are Deadpool, Deadpool 2, Logan, Joker, Bird of Prey, BvS Ultimate Edition.
And all 3 Blade films, and the Punisher movies. Also The Crow. Watchmen too
Sorry i forget them. ;D
I guess Ayer posted this to his IG story recently
https://twitter.com/kryptonscodex/status/1350555951271714822
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375207003178426368
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375221388185726979
8)
Can't wait !!!
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Looking forward to this particular trailer, but that will be enough for me at this point.
I've always loved movie trailers over the years, but have long learned to ONLY watch the first proper 'teaser' so that scenes and story points remain largely unspoiled by the time I go to see something I'm interested in. When I check out any follow-up trailers afterwards, I'm frequently glad that I did, considering how much some of them give away!
I'd much rather not know how the entire movie looks before I go in! :D
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375462548795912192
https://twitter.com/JohnCena/status/1375462962752856071
https://twitter.com/seangunn/status/1375466253406507011
https://twitter.com/MelchiorDaniela/status/1375464872935362561
https://twitter.com/idriselba/status/1375467150949945346
https://twitter.com/violadavis/status/1375465617340309511
https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/1375466430921990150
https://twitter.com/Dastmalchian/status/1375471671193214976
https://twitter.com/ThePlaylist/status/1375475688640294924
https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/1375476442138435592
Warner Bros usually drops their trailers around 9 AM PST, so we might be getting this in the next 20 minutes 8)
Doesn't look as good as I hoped.
Also, Weasel looks awesome, but King Shark too fake.
I know it's gonna be good, anyway.
Just thinkin' about my boi Starro :-*
Eating dicks... for liberty. :laugh:
Some highlights from Gunn on Twitter today:
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375486197653405698
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375499899354025987
I'm thinking that Taika is likely going to be playing Ratcatcher 1 in a flashback.
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375488391798648840
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375510793949638658
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375512190493417476
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375519218364346370
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375520945369047041
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375527625326686209
Trailer is awesome. I'm ready for this bat s**t movie ;D
om nom nom
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 26, 2021, 08:20:19 PM
Trailer is awesome. I'm ready for this bat s**t movie ;D
"Horribly beautiful," if you will. ;)
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 26, 2021, 08:21:51 PM
om nom nom
Stallone. 8)
That first team totally gets slaughtered in the first 20 minutes :laugh:
Awesome trailer! Can't wait!
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 26, 2021, 08:35:48 PM
That first team totally gets slaughtered in the first 20 minutes :laugh:
Or, alternatively, the first team gets...
Spoiler
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The trailer didn't blow me away, but it looks like a fun time. 👍
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 26, 2021, 08:42:47 PM
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 26, 2021, 08:35:48 PM
That first team totally gets slaughtered in the first 20 minutes :laugh:
Or, alternatively, the first team gets...
Spoiler
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You know what.. that wouldn't shock me. It'd be a shame to waste some of those actors..
Spoiler
Pete Davidson totally dies though.
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 26, 2021, 09:09:47 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Mar 26, 2021, 08:42:47 PM
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 26, 2021, 08:35:48 PM
That first team totally gets slaughtered in the first 20 minutes :laugh:
Or, alternatively, the first team gets...
Spoiler
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You know what.. that wouldn't shock me. It'd be a shame to waste some of those actors..
Spoiler
Pete Davidson totally dies though.
Oh, I bet at least of the cast - if not more - is dead by the time the movie ends. :D But it definitely makes sense to Starro-facehug at least some of the first team, before sending in the second team to investigate.
I'd imagine Michael Rooker and Captain Boomerang will stick around a bit longer than that.
Captain Boomerang still amuses me, in that he was the one single character in the godawful first movie that I actually kind of liked. I have hated Jai Courtney in literally everything else I've ever seen him in, but f**king Suicide Squad of all things is the movie that got a fun performance out of him. :D
He was a decent villain in the first Jack Reacher, then Hollywood insisted on sticking him in shitty sequels to beloved franchises. And Suicide Squad. :laugh:
Gunn loves Rooker (and making fun of him) so I would imagine he becomes a Starro-zombie at the end. Boomerang famously survives every incarnation of Suicide Squad and the fans really want him to survive this movie but I feel like Gunn will kill him just to say f**k you. I mean the tagline is literally "Don't get too attached".
If I had to bet money I'd say Harley, Peacemaker, Bloodsport, and Ratcatcher survive till the end.
Mongal, Blackguard, TDK, & Javelin almost certainly die in the opening battle :laugh:
I've got a feeling he is going to make Polka-Dot Man one of these tragic characters we all come out of the theater loving.
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 26, 2021, 10:06:57 PM
I've got a feeling he is going to make Polka-Dot Man one of these tragic characters we all come out of the theater loving.
"I hope so."
Maybe also Weasel die, i hope not. ;D
Weasel is definitely dying but not in the opening act, Gunn will have fun with that character :laugh:
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375578938940878850
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 26, 2021, 10:27:27 PM
Weasel is definitely dying but not in the opening act, Gunn will have fun with that character :laugh:
How do you know? ???
This thread from Gail Simone (comic writer and creator of Savant, Michael Rooker's character) is a great (currently ongoing, at the time of this post) breakdown of the trailer and the history of these characters in the comics:
https://twitter.com/GailSimone/status/1375619895157616640
Quote from: Andrea90 on Mar 26, 2021, 11:05:03 PM
Quote from: MudButt on Mar 26, 2021, 10:27:27 PM
Weasel is definitely dying but not in the opening act, Gunn will have fun with that character :laugh:
How do you know? ???
Because I am James Gunn.
Potentially spoilery observation from the trailer:
Spoiler
Looks like Harley is holding Javelin's javelin at the start. That can't bode well for him.
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375856738147069954
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375928878644875265
Blue screen sleeves? Definitely some variation on Arm-Fall-Off-Boy. :D
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1375961669608726536
Gunn got Lloyd Kaufman in
Guardians of the Galaxy, too.
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I honestly don't remember what I thought of the first flick so it must have been memorable.
This one looks pretty fun though.
I think this looks like so much fun. I can't remember if I thought the first one looked that interesting (I know I was mostly watching for Cara Delevingne), but I'm all aboard for this one.
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1376559674586144771
https://www.instagram.com/p/CNAjr16AsUp/?igshid=oqks53zsy6l8
The page of Ayer's script that he shared a while back:
Spoiler
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Yikes.
When I found out Starro was supposed to be in this (before the trailer) I was like, "Yeah, that makes sense with Gunn."
I'm expecting everyone who isn't Harley Quinn, Bloodsport, Peacemaker, Rick Flag, King Shark, Amanda Waller and maybe Captain Boomerang to get killed. Rest will go out like poor Slipknot in the first film or the X-Force rejects in Deadpool 2.
So DC finally throws in the towel and goes full Marvel / Guardians of the Galaxy.
Just came out of seeing Godzilla vs Kong in the theater and they played a brand new trailer in front of it. It has tons of new footage. It showed TDK (Nathan Fillion) with his arms detached. Seems like he can telepathically control them? It showed a bit more Weasel and King Shark. Some cool action shots with Bloodsport and Peacemaker (Cena is going to be a riot in this).
You get a few more snippets of action on the initial beach invasion with the doomed team 1. Movie looks awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8Svx4y4ek8Found a bootleg recording.
Hahahaha TDK. :D
Wonderful. :D
Official upload:
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1377712257157636096
That's SO MUCH BETTER than the first trailer :D
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1377734597262249987
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1377757200832073732
Turns out Rick Flag's yellow t-shirt was present in Suicide Squad #1 back in 1987:
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Speaking of which, the first volume of Ostrander's run came in the mail for me today. 8)
This already looks leagues better than the previous film. I'm stoked that Idris Elba is in this too. He makes everything better.
Movie gets a Japan theatrical release date
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1384994787309154304
New magazine covers featuring the cast
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https://twitter.com/totalfilm/status/1387029352911708162
Quote from: ace3g on Apr 21, 2021, 10:19:50 PM
Movie gets a Japan theatrical release date
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1384994787309154304
Kamikaze Squad.
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https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1390399118204280833
MPAA rating
https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/status/1392517482687057922
Probably Weasel's penis.
Some of the other comics, other than Ostrander's Suicide Squad, that inspired Gunn while writing The Suicide Squad:
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1396515630182924288
Image from Fandango
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New image from Gunn's twitter
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https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1398726046493548546
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1400124768804773890
I've noticed this trend lately, studios using Youtube ads to premiere some of their new TV spots/trailers
https://twitter.com/rob_keyes/status/1407313062265229315
Here is the trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYuH6ARkbbE
I'm starting to see where Bloodsport was originally supposed to be Deadshot.
Keeps looking better and better. 8) Easily my most anticipated of the onslaught of superhero movies coming in the second half of 2021.
New poster
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https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1412442270024945666
Some magazine covers
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1410991974581030912
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1415769063943442441
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1420152468827107331
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1420153000698339330
STARROOOOOO!
https://twitter.com/warnerjp/status/1420882548935172098
God I want this poster.
Having now seen it, I'm a bit underwhelmed. I was swayed by the amazing review score, but I don't think the film is as good as the reviews make out.
I didn't dislike it, but I wasn't blown away. Made me want to watch the first one again so I can compare which I think is better. Also felt, to me, like the first one stylistically. The original had huge reshoots because of test audience reactions, and so it ended up feeling like two movies mashed into one, with corresponding tonal dissonance. This one gave me the same feeling, though I know James Gunn supposedly had complete control over it.
Harley was awesome, though.
Revisiting Marvel's two best (Guardians of the Galaxy and Vol. 2) in prep for this week's new DC release feels like quite the oxymoron. :D
Wait, what ? This week ? :o
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This was very much my shit.
I wound up posting a fair amount of thoughts on the film in the Last Movie thread, so here they are cross-posted here as well:
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 07, 2021, 01:26:11 PM
I actually didn't have a problem with The Suicide Squad's running time – in fact, I couldn't even tell you how long it was. I was just all in on it from opening scene and it never really let up.
Also, in quite a few ways it is structurally pretty much the best Predator movie since Predator 2. :D That scene with Peacemaker and Bloodsport, you know the one, has to be a riff on Dutch and company's attack on the camp in Predator, and like in Predator, this movie too soon after twists into a sci-fi horror outing in tandem with the core over-the-top action.
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Also, the grisly Starro experiments in the lab were so gruesome (hell, the whole movie was) and rivaled some gory 70s/80s horror in the best possible ways before mutating into a kaiju-type showdown for the final stretch of the film. Starro is one of my favorite wacky comic inventions and I was overjoyed with how he was adapted to screen here (though I do wish that at least one main character had gotten Starro mind controlled, but ah well).
Cool too is the film's commentary in the way that it contorts the whole American system responsible for generating a "team" like the Suicide Squad in the first place into the true bad guys of the film (which Peacemaker, in his crass and disturbed quest for "Peace," is loyal to to the very end – it is going to be very interesting to see where his show goes) what with the control of media and attempt to scrub a squeaky clean image in the public eye with zero accountability for the horrors and devastation that they are actively causing overseas. Corto Maltese has control of Starro specifically because of American imperialism, and America - embodied here by Amanda Waller and her goons running Task Force X - could care less about that sentient weapon of mass destruction itself, just their own involvement in its "creation." The Suicide Squad aren't sent to destroy Starro specifically (and like Waller said, she saw Starro running rampant in Corto Maltese as potentially a good thing for America's own interests which is... repulsive, to say the least) and Peacemaker was there following those orders to destroy any and all information about America's involvement in Project Starfish a T in the name of his warped definition of "Peace."
It's actually like Starship Troopers, in that sense, though in Starship Troopers basically every single character is Peacemaker. The rest of the Suicide Squad, outside of Peacemaker, have enough of a sense of awareness to recognize that they are actually fighting for the wrong side on this one and end up disobeying their orders and actually do take on Starro to protect the citizens of Corto Maltese. It is no shock to me at all that the Comedian is what Alan Moore came up with for Watchmen after realizing he couldn't use Peacemaker in that slot. I really hope the HBO Max Peacemaker goes full Verhoeven with the character.
This is honestly my favorite comic book movie in years, since Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 in 2017 and Aquaman in 2018, and probably the bloodiest and most overtly violent mainstream blockbuster in a lonnngggg time.
10/10 for Peacemaker in his tighty-whities. Would watch again.
I give it a 7/10.
A good produced and good directed movie, for a very mediocre proposal.
Kind of facepalm-y to read Gunn criticized superhero movies for being "dumb" and "not proposing anything innovative anymore" while this movie was just Guardians of the Galaxy + Deadpool.
He couldn't have make it more formulaic than that.
A "passably entertaining" movie, but nothing else.
I like 2k16 film a little better, for a few reasons, and I'm still hoping the Ayer cut will see the light of day one day...
Aye, the best track and one of the best scenes in the film.
Rewatched the film last night (at home this time, via HBO Max) and still had a blast with it.
https://twitter.com/JimLee/status/1424156138975682568
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https://youtu.be/fm-Z7XcYlas (https://youtu.be/fm-Z7XcYlas)
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How you gonna kill Boomerang before he even gets to be in a Flash movie? :-\
Other than that, this was great. I do kind of wish there was a gag during the conversation about what TDK stands for where Harley went "The Dark Knight? Are you really Batman?" But sadly, no. :laugh:
Also,
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Hell yes, King Shark lived. I still have hope he can appear in Aquaman 2... maybe he can box Nereus. :laugh:
Quote from: KiramidHead on Aug 09, 2021, 07:10:46 PM
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How you gonna kill Boomerang before he even gets to be in a Flash movie? :-\
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Flash is going to change the timeline anyway, so that can be fixed.
Starro's my jam. 8)
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Seeing this tomorrow hopefully.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 10, 2021, 02:05:42 AM
Starro's my jam. 8)
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That was some Overlord levels of f**ked up.
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Love me some gross hive-mind space parasite body horror.
Good stuff, I really question the taste of anyone preferring "the original" I unexpectedly got quite attached to Ratcatcher and Bloodsport myself, I thought the social commentary apt and for the first time in live action Harley Quinn's a delight.
https://twitter.com/DCComics/status/1425200296762953732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9mTwtVy_Iw
:laugh: :laugh:
https://twitter.com/amblin/status/1425379516575191044
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 12, 2021, 12:45:05 AM
:laugh: :laugh:
https://twitter.com/amblin/status/1425379516575191044
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Quote from: Shasvre on Aug 12, 2021, 06:13:35 PM
Quote from: ace3g on Aug 12, 2021, 12:45:05 AM
:laugh: :laugh:
https://twitter.com/amblin/status/1425379516575191044
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Nanaue and Arthur Cury would be good drinking buddies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_izOUqIdYw
Concept art:
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https://twitter.com/shanebaxley/status/1424541968416268293
https://twitter.com/shanebaxley/status/1425147904143106050
https://twitter.com/shanebaxley/status/1425673955105415175
https://twitter.com/Massive_Peace/status/1425869701419212804
Quote from: Trash Queen on Aug 10, 2021, 06:48:08 PM
Good stuff, I really question the taste of anyone preferring "the original" I unexpectedly got quite attached to Ratcatcher and Bloodsport myself, I thought the social commentary apt and for the first time in live action Harley Quinn's a delight.
I found the Harley stuff f**king
dragged but I had fun with the rest of it. Special mentions for Idris Elba and sharkbro.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Aug 13, 2021, 09:03:26 AM
Quote from: Trash Queen on Aug 10, 2021, 06:48:08 PM
Good stuff, I really question the taste of anyone preferring "the original" I unexpectedly got quite attached to Ratcatcher and Bloodsport myself, I thought the social commentary apt and for the first time in live action Harley Quinn's a delight.
I found the Harley stuff f**king dragged but I had fun with the rest of it. Special mentions for Idris Elba and sharkbro.
Shows how different opinions can be. I thought the Harley stuff was the best part of the whole movie!
I think I just don't like the character.
Have you watched BTAS ? Maybe you'd like her original version more
I think this comes pretty close, that it's ultimately inconsequential, CB probably does not like either.
How did Harley learn how to fight?
Ratcatcher 2, Sebastian, Polka-Dot Man, Bloodsport, and King Shark were fantastic! Worthy mention, Milton.
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 13, 2021, 04:02:10 PM
Have you watched BTAS ? Maybe you'd like her original version more
I have, and I find her just as irritating there. TQ is correct.
My only real issue with the Harley subplot was that was it was so weird and went on for so long that I was wondering if it was a fantasy sequence like the one she had in Birds of Prey for a while there. I thought the payoff was worth it, though.
Really enjoyed James Gunn's The Suicide Squad... loved it!! But I also really want to see what David Ayer originally envisioned for his take on these characters. Its great to see #Releasetheayercut trending on Twitter at the moment, made me revisit my first initial review for the theatrical cut and I was definitely a lot more kind to this movie than I would be now...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRW2vE8zhk0
I'm gunna be real - I don't hate the Leto Joker. It's peak-cringe but that's kind of the charm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie13dbqydTs
https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1426176413825175554
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Finally got around to it and it was very good, certainly the best DCEU film with the strongest identity, the humor, drama, action all handled very well for the most part.
Was a bit bummed how Polka-Dot Man went out, I thought they were saving something big with him after setting up how he swells up and has to vomit (?) the polka-dots (or whatever they were). Maybe I missed something. I kinda wish he was the one who took Starro out. (The giant mother imagery was hilarious/terrifying.)
Quote from: Gilfryd on Mar 29, 2021, 09:25:13 PM
When I found out Starro was supposed to be in this (before the trailer) I was like, "Yeah, that makes sense with Gunn."
Yep, definite Slither/Ego vibes. Gunn sure loves a bizarre alien hivemind (and tentacles). The film does a good job justifying its R-rating and never felt try-hard/edgy to me (despite some of the humor). King Shark tearing the guy apart with a lightning bolt going off was great.
QuoteI'm expecting everyone who isn't Harley Quinn, Bloodsport, Peacemaker, Rick Flag, King Shark, Amanda Waller and maybe Captain Boomerang to get killed.
Eh close enough. Ratcatcher 2 was a pleasant surprise, she really is the heart of the movie, something the first film never had.
Quote from: Gilfryd on Aug 14, 2021, 10:03:15 PM
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Eh close enough. Ratcatcher 2 was a pleasant surprise, she really is the heart of the movie, something the first film never had.
El Diablo >>>>> Any other character arc that this movie featured.
I don't feel like any character in the team was justified. Polka and RC2 weren't evil, why were they in prison?
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Quote from: Gilfryd on Aug 14, 2021, 10:03:15 PM
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Eh close enough. Ratcatcher 2 was a pleasant surprise, she really is the heart of the movie, something the first film never had.
El Diablo >>>>> Any other character arc that this movie featured.
I don't feel like any character in the team was justified. Polka and RC2 weren't evil, why were they in prison?
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Ratcatcher 2 explained her reason for being in prison – she robbed a bank in America, her rats were deemed weapons, and she was charged with armed robbery.
We don't know how Polka-Dot Man ended up in jail, but we know how he got his abilities and it seems likely to infer that he must have – even if by accident – hurt somebody with his powers to wind up in jail.
Waller also seems to be very good at making sure she has the right assets (in the form of expendable soldiers) at her disposal for any mission, and the ability to pull strings within the prison system (as she was doing with Bloodaport's daughter) to get who/what she needs in order to achieve her goals.
I honestly don't remember anything about El Diablo in the 2016 movie, other than that he sacrifices himself.
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 15, 2021, 02:08:07 AMSpoiler
Ratcatcher 2 explained her reason for being in prison – she robbed a bank in America, her rats were deemed weapons, and she was charged with armed robbery.
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Well, that doesn't make sense. She never seems to be the type of person who goes around robbing banks.
In the end, this 'redemption' thing concept doesn't work, since the characters were mostly good decent people from the beginning of the film.
I just don't buy the characters of this film being bad guys, which was supposed the be the 'big character arc' of these guys: going from being outcast villains to heroic people.
Same problem Gunn had with the Guardians of the Galaxy films, aside from Rocket in the second movie.
We don't know how Polka-Dot Man ended up in jail, but we know how he got his abilities and it seems likely to infer that he must have – even if by accident – hurt somebody with his powers to wind up in jail.
As for El Diablo, in the movie he comes off right from being a very angry and conflictive member of the team to reveal his personal tragedy in a very heartfelt moment and end up making up for it. It really changes what you think about the character as the movie goes on.
The second movie characters, well, they show their colors from the very beginning I'd say.
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I mean for the first few times that King Shark got close to anyone I got extremely nervous until he solidified that group friendship.
I thought Bloodsport a pretty shitty person up until that bus ride. Ratcatcher and Polkadot man exist more as cases of weirdos that you grow to gradually understand. Personally I found the former's flashback with their father heartwrenching.
And frankly I'd have difficulty calling the original a film at all.
I thought every DC movie I've seen since they launched their cinematic universe has been an utter disaster -- but I really, really liked this. The original movie was so godawful I wrote this sequel off completely. Glad I decided to give it some time.
Need to watch this. 8)
Saw it yesterday and fell asleep. I'm not into superhero films though but sometimes the hype reaches me and I watch it. Found it boring, not funny and stupid dialogue. That harley Quin character is one of the most annoying characters I've seen in a film. That weasel was fun, it should have been the boring shark that got killed not the weasel.
Yes I have seen the very end but I don't want to spoil it for those that haven't seen it, although it is not significant
Quote from: nanison on Aug 15, 2021, 08:15:58 PM
That harley Quin character is one of the most annoying characters I've seen in a film.
Agreed.
QuoteThat weasel was fun, it should have been the boring shark that got killed not the weasel.
Get out.
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 15, 2021, 02:08:07 AMWe don't know how Polka-Dot Man ended up in jail, but we know how he got his abilities and it seems likely to infer that he must have – even if by accident – hurt somebody with his powers to wind up in jail.
I thought he killed his mom?
Quote from: Gilfryd on Aug 15, 2021, 08:58:50 PM
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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 15, 2021, 02:08:07 AMWe don't know how Polka-Dot Man ended up in jail, but we know how he got his abilities and it seems likely to infer that he must have – even if by accident – hurt somebody with his powers to wind up in jail.
I thought he killed his mom?
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I initially thought that might be the case, but with him still seeing his mom everywhere, I figured his mom might actually be this dangling thread, a loose end from his life that tortured/experimented on him and is still out there scot free. Each time he sees/"kills" his mother is probably cathartic 'cause he wasn't able to actually do it in real life.
Though I could also be completely wrong and maybe he did kill her and still sees her everywhere. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxu7nxDJCds
I think you're on the money.
Just gimme that Ratcatcher 2 movie already
The Suicide Squad had Sebastian the rat, but the Harley show had this guy. 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swkcq-TEAqI
Another fail for DC. It might have worked better with more humour and less gore, which was just boring and seemed to be the film's main calling card.
The character development was lacking too; I just didn't care about any of them.
And after Thanos, a boss monster seems so lame.
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https://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1628478070301786113
Quote from: ace3g on Feb 23, 2023, 02:30:04 AMhttps://twitter.com/DavidAyerMovies/status/1628478070301786113
I would like to see the Ayer cut. I would also like to not keep being teased about the Ayer cut.
Joker wearing an Ed Hardy styled dinner jacket is certainly a choice.
https://twitter.com/GeekTyrant/status/1736753188374491253