OK, so I have just had the Nikola Kostelac rejected Prometheus score delivered this morning. Its a promotional CD which I believe was a potential option for the movie score which didnt get selected. I purchased this from Elite Soundtracks on the web if you need any validation - only 500 available.
The interesting bit is the inlay which contains some detail regarding the film. Not massive plot descriptions but quite a lot that might help fill in some gaps!!
I doubt the composer saw the completed film as is usually the case so I cant verify the accuracy 100% of the notes but they do have a lot of hints as to what might be going on in the film.
Ive scanned the inlay and attached BUT these are SPOLIERS so dont open the jpg if you dont want to know!!
Even if true, no wonder it was rejected by the descriptions alone.
Wow, we'll. If This is real, we're in for a treat. There's no real spoilers, just mentions of a creature, hinting at David being a robot, etc....hmmmm
Awesome mate, thankyou for sharing this with, much appreciated :)
So you have the actual score as well?
Edit: It's fan-made. http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42349.msg1296827#msg1296827 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42349.msg1296827#msg1296827)
http://www.elitesoundtracks.com/new_releases/prometheus_complete_score_submission_limited_500_nikola_kostelac_P1029.html (http://www.elitesoundtracks.com/new_releases/prometheus_complete_score_submission_limited_500_nikola_kostelac_P1029.html)
QuoteTrack Listing
01. Main Titles (2:16)
02. Alien Attack (0:36)
03. The Ghost Ship (3:54)
04. The Chase (2:11)
05. The Chase II (1:36)
06. Underground Tunnels (1:47)
07. The Droid (1:02)
08. Alien Planet (2:24)
09. Blue Dream (3:40)
10. Solitude (0:58)
11. Nightmare (1:13)
12. Vickers (2:04)
13. Space Jockey (1:10)
14. Archaeological Site (2:28)
15. David (1:44)
16. Elizabeth's Dream (2:26)
17. Sacrifice (2:57)
18. Alien Ants (2:05)
19. Terminal (0:46)
20. Alien Suite (4:28)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 03, 2012, 02:23:39 PM
So you have the actual score as well?
Unfortunately no, just this rejected score.
Sorry, I do mean, the actual rejected score. Can you slap a track online for us?
Interesting that a percentage of the sountrack titles would suggest some of that proposed synopsis made up of alledged leaks etc are possibly accurate then, and the david character arc a very similar to that of ashes, except for him helping elizabeth blow the ship. I'm happy, this all sounds pretty good, alien ants though, hmmmmmmmmmm interesting. A nice bit of new of info though :)
Alien Ants? Weren't they mentioned in the Alien Harvest script?
^^.......Yes. :(
Quote from: Shodan09 on Mar 03, 2012, 02:51:19 PM
Alien Ants? Weren't they mentioned in the Alien Harvest script?
Exactly my thoughts. The rest of the Alien stuff they have in there seem to come from warez sites. Images included. Bit fishy.
Seems fishy to me too (not that I have any reason to doubt the OP) especially since John Spaihts denied any involvement with the Harvest script.
Ikarop and I have been doing some searching and we canne find the composer online anywhere. Our thoughts are a pitch from an unknown composer or a fake. I've brought a copy, just to have a listen but it's all pretty unsure at the moment.
This sounds fake as hell! If it was real then the spoilers would be major league spoilers and not one of the things said in the track names or write up has said anything new.
And, track 18: Alien Ants? Oh christ no!
Fake!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 03, 2012, 03:03:17 PM
Ikarop and I have been doing some searching and we canne find the composer online anywhere. Our thoughts are a pitch from an unknown composer or a fake. I've brought a copy, just to have a listen but it's all pretty unsure at the moment.
I was about to post this. I would have to hear it obviously but even the audio quality and the arrangements generally will give away if it is fake or not.
But a big budget film like Prometheus is not a place to start off your scoring career.
Where is the description of 20th soundtrack? ;)
EDIT: Oh! It repeats the 3rd theme...
PS. I don't know, it looks like fake with all those references to Alien Harvest screenplay.
Ok, so here are 30 second clips of Tracks 1 and 4. If someone can identify these as fake that would help.
Personally I would hold of ordering this CD if you had any plans!
There is obviously a possibility that this is a fake CD cashing in on the Prometheus marketing! :-\
Looked up Nikola Kostelac and it turns out he is a Croatian animation director who died in 1999! So - I might rename this thread!!!
It's fake (fan-made). I just tracked it down to this Youtube user: http://www.youtube.com/user/Nikolalana (http://www.youtube.com/user/Nikolalana)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvg6beD072g# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvg6beD072g#)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEAYs65LwYU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEAYs65LwYU#)
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 03, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
It's fake (fan-made). I just tracked it down to this Youtube user: http://www.youtube.com/user/Nikolalana (http://www.youtube.com/user/Nikolalana)
Christ!, well done on finding that! I shall be sending a note to elite soundtracks.
hmm, ive never heard of a rejected soundtrack and composer before, is this something that happens often?. i just thought a director would choose a composer and he would score the movie and the director would ask him to rewrite anything that wasn't liked along the way, not let him write a full score then suddenly turn round and say no were getting someone else as not only would it be expensive but it would be very time consuming.
last but not least, surely any composer would have to sign an nda and wouldn't be allowed to release anything before a movie comes out if at all, even if it was rejected.
thanks
rich
Quote from: RICH-ENGLAND on Mar 03, 2012, 03:21:21 PM
hmm, ive never heard of a rejected soundtrack and composer before, is this something that happens often?. i just thought a director would choose a composer and he would score the movie and the director would ask him to rewrite anything that wasn't liked along the way, not let him write a full score then suddenly turn round and say no were getting someone else as not only would it be expensive but it would be very time consuming.
last but not least, surely any composer would have to sign an nda and wouldn't be allowed to release anything before a movie comes out if at all, even if it was rejected.
thanks
rich
There have been rejected scores for films before and on Ridley Scotts films....Legend is a good example - Jerry Goldsmith and Tangerine Dream....
http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/legend.html (http://www.filmtracks.com/titles/legend.html)
And NDA's and internet leaks go hand in hand these days ;-)
Not a fan of people using the interests of others to peddle their shoddy merchandise. Here's hoping the op can get his money back!
Quote from: beej199 on Mar 03, 2012, 03:19:10 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 03, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
It's fake (fan-made). I just tracked it down to this Youtube user: http://www.youtube.com/user/Nikolalana (http://www.youtube.com/user/Nikolalana)
Christ!, well done on finding that! I shall be sending a note to elite soundtracks.
I don't think they will care. They seem kinda sketchy and fly by nightish. Even the website has that "cheap fakes and bootlegs" look to it.
Thanks all for spotting the fake so quickly, Ive dropped Elite Soundtracks a note and we shall see what happens.
Buyer beware and all that.....hopefully now nobody else will make the same error ::)
Alien Ants?
Hey, at least it'll make a nice coaster.
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 03, 2012, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: beej199 on Mar 03, 2012, 03:19:10 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 03, 2012, 03:17:35 PM
It's fake (fan-made). I just tracked it down to this Youtube user: http://www.youtube.com/user/Nikolalana (http://www.youtube.com/user/Nikolalana)
Christ!, well done on finding that! I shall be sending a note to elite soundtracks.
I don't think they will care. They seem kinda sketchy and fly by nightish. Even the website has that "cheap fakes and bootlegs" look to it.
Ive bought from them before and they do stock legitimate stuff e.g. LaLaLand, Intrada releases, but I guess thats mixed in with a few "bootleg" (and fake!) CD's. I suspect they got caught out on this one too.
Quote from: beej199 on Mar 03, 2012, 03:33:53 PM
Thanks all for spotting the fake so quickly, Ive dropped Elite Soundtracks a note and we shall see what happens.
Buyer beware and all that.....hopefully now nobody else will make the same error ::)
I sent them e-mail too. Just got my refund.
Well, I think that's the oddest Prometheus fake plot rumours presentation I've seen
Even though its fake, on its own its not that bad a score from the tracks show on here.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 03, 2012, 09:59:14 PM
Even though its fake, on its own its not that bad a score from the tracks show on here.
Jerry Goldsmith is turning around in his grave. And he may do it again once we hear the actual score by Marc Streitenfeld.
It's a clever publicity stunt.
Quote from: echobbase79 on Mar 03, 2012, 09:59:14 PM
Even though its fake, on its own its not that bad a score from the tracks show on here.
I'm pretty sure that it was composed using MIDI. Not only that but the music itself was awfully generic. I'm not sure how much worse it could have been (although I fear that Marc Streitenfeld will show us come June)!
Sounds like an episode of the X Files. Not bad, but certainly NOT movie quality.
God that's awful. Still they were right about one thing, if it had ever been considered it would have been rejected in an instant.
Quote from: beej199 on Mar 03, 2012, 03:28:45 PM
There have been rejected scores for films before and on Ridley Scotts films....Legend is a good example - Jerry Goldsmith and Tangerine Dream....
In fairness, the Goldsmith version wasn't rejected. It was used for the European release, while the Tangerine Dream one was used for the US version. Both different cuts can be found on the deluxe DVD.
Scott prefers the European one. Personally, I've always preferred the US edition. The Goldsmith soundtrack has a few nice pieces in it, but there's something... Off about it. It doesn't quite gel with the visuals as much. The Tangerine Dream music also comes across a
lot darker, which really helps to convey the tangible evil atmosphere at certain points.
Also, as great as Mia Sara's singing voice is (which Goldsmith was apparently impressed by), the scenes of her character doing so feel a bit too much like a tale for children (which is particularly at odds with all the obvious sexual intonation of Darkness' seduction of her character). Taking them away makes it feel more dreamy and ethereal.