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Title: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: War Wager on May 13, 2010, 07:58:25 PM
Since Ridley confirmed that as the name of planet the film(s) will feature/be based upon, I've been wondering what kind of planet it is.

Say this is actually the planet the Space Jockey's originate from. But they're nearing extinction and the planet appears barren. That's how the terraforming comes into play and how the humans come across the Alien(s) in the first place.

Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: SM on May 13, 2010, 11:38:39 PM
He could simply be referring to Zeta 2 Reticuli - the star system where LV-426 is located.  Which was originally the Aliens homeworld.
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: Xenoscream on May 21, 2010, 10:04:27 AM
Quote from: SM on May 13, 2010, 11:38:39 PM
He could simply be referring to Zeta 2 Reticuli - the star system where LV-426 is located.  Which was originally the Aliens homeworld.

Just wondering where you got that info from?

I've never seen the name of the system before.
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: Chris!(($$))! on May 22, 2010, 05:30:10 AM
I believe Zeta 2 Reticuli comes from the Alien Quadrilogy set.

I don't think it was ever the Xeno homeworld. As far as we know there is no Xeno homeworld cause the Space Jockeys might of bio engineered them.
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: Edward Brock on May 23, 2010, 04:11:17 PM
Quote from: Chris!(($$))! on May 22, 2010, 05:30:10 AM
I believe Zeta 2 Reticuli comes from the Alien Quadrilogy set.
No neet to go that far. It's actually mentioned in the first movie by Lambert when she's trying to get a sense of where they are.

QuoteLambert: I found it. Just short of Zeta II Reticuli. We haven't reached the Outer Rim yet.

If I had to take a guess, I'd say that it's either the system's name or the the name of the big planet which LV-426 is orbiting. Which makes it kinda confusing. If the Jockey's homeworld is so close to LV-426, how come didn't the Company detect it? Or maybe Scott just screwed up the terms...
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: SM on May 23, 2010, 11:07:36 PM
QuoteJust wondering where you got that info from?

I've never seen the name of the system before.

This...
QuoteIt's actually mentioned in the first movie by Lambert when she's trying to get a sense of where they are.

Although...

QuoteIf I had to take a guess, I'd say that it's either the system's name or the the name of the big planet which LV-426 is orbiting. Which makes it kinda confusing.

Why guess?  You're on the internet.  A very quick Google will tell you Zeta 2 Reticuli is a real star about 36 ly from Earth.
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: Edward Brock on May 24, 2010, 10:13:14 PM
*facepalm*

*retreats silently...*
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: Vulhala on May 24, 2010, 10:24:12 PM
Quote from: SM on May 23, 2010, 11:07:36 PM
Why guess?  You're on the internet.  A very quick Google will tell you Zeta 2 Reticuli is a real star about 36 ly from Earth.

I'm just glad we haven't found any planets around it yet..... :D
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: Edward Brock on May 24, 2010, 10:36:01 PM
Anyway, Scott really screwed up the terms then. This is the reason why this thread got started in the first place:

http://www.fangoria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=643:ridley-scotts-alien-prequel-will-be-tough-and-nasty

Quote"If the first ALIEN took place in 2090, [the new movie] will take place in the years before that, when they first come across this thing on a planet called Zeta Reticuli (...)"
D'oh!
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: SM on May 24, 2010, 11:12:29 PM
Riddles doesn't write the scripts.

QuoteI'm just glad we haven't found any planets around it yet.....

Depends who you ask (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betty_and_Barney_Hill_abduction#.22Deciphering.22_the_star_map).
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: Gate on May 24, 2010, 11:20:29 PM
2090? HAH!
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: C91_SJ on May 25, 2010, 06:04:11 AM
Quote from: Edward Brock on May 23, 2010, 04:11:17 PM
Which makes it kinda confusing. If the Jockey's homeworld is so close to LV-426, how come didn't the Company detect it?

Well maybe the Jockey's already died out to that date? Maybe the Jockey we saw in A1 was the last one of its race? Who knows? :)
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: SM on May 25, 2010, 06:22:28 AM
Maybe the Derelict wasn't a ship at all.
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: Aeus on May 25, 2010, 11:21:50 AM
Given the ludicrous shape I'd guess that it was a theme park attraction.
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: Hive Tyrant on May 25, 2010, 12:51:09 PM
Space observatory with large underground snack storage.
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: RumorControl on May 26, 2010, 11:01:34 PM
Just to clear some things up:

Zeta 2 Reticuli is a star in the Zeta Reticuli system, not a planet.  In Alien, Lambert said that the Nostromo was "just short" of Zeta 2 Reticuli, meaning that they weren't actually there yet.  In the movie, there's an unnamed fictional ringed planet in this system, and LV-426 is a moon (or possibly a planetoid) of this planet. 

So again, Zeta 2 Reticuli itself has nothing to do with the aliens or xenomorphs.  It's not the big ringed planet and it's not LV-426.  I think Scott is a little confused, but then again, it's been 30 years for him.
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: SM on May 26, 2010, 11:32:26 PM
Didn't really need clearing up but thanks anyway...
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on May 31, 2010, 09:15:55 PM
I suppose I'm wondering about how accurately Ridley was quoted about Zeta Reticuli. But he didn't seem to have any view about where the planetoid was when he made the first movie, and it seems that O'Bannon probably just threw the name Zeta II Reticuli in there as if it were a galactic landmark because of his interest in the Betty and Barney Hill alien abduction case. But I wonder if the Alien prequel script writer decided to use the star system name because it's been talked about in the forums in recent years and managed to get into the Aliens comic books as the place where the derelict was found (if I remember rightly). I'm distressed by this possible placing of the planetoid in the Zeta Reticuli star system just as I get irritated when I find any scifi movie using any UFO related event such as Roswell in it's plot and claim that it's own movie monsters or brand of ETs were responsible for crashing there but don't fit the description. I remember when they had the Ferengi responsible for Roswell in an episode of Star Trek and this irritated me to no end, just as did Alien Hunter which featured a biomechanoid inspired alien.

Maybe it's the thing to be done in terms of amalgamating ideas to condense things down for a movie. I don't know what the result of this will be in the final film.
Maybe Scott means that the planetoid is symbolic of all the mythology we have about the Zeta Reticuli star system, I hope so.

What though if Spaights the scriptwriter's ideas are everything we feared worse about the Brother Strause's planned AVP 3
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: SM on May 31, 2010, 11:27:38 PM
QuoteBut I wonder if the Alien prequel script writer decided to use the star system name because it's been talked about in the forums in recent years and managed to get into the Aliens comic books as the place where the derelict was found (if I remember rightly).

Can't ever remember any mention of Z2R in any comics.

Maybe the new film is set in the Z1R system.
Title: Re: "Zeta Reticuli" - The Jockey Homeworld?
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Jun 01, 2010, 06:24:22 PM
the Zeta 2 Reticuli system was briefly mentioned in the "Aliens Apocalypse the destroying angels" comic series.