http://www.cinematical.com/2010/03/22/interview-predators-creators-robert-rodriguez-and-nimrod-anta/
What is it that you think the last few cinematic iterations of Predator may have lacked that you wanted to restore for Predators?
Nimrod Antal: I think the hunt, and suspense. Trying to take it back to what works in classic horror films and trying to keep the monster in the shadows as opposed to throwing him in your face right off the bat. I think if you look at the timeline on the first film, you have I think 40 minutes into the film was the first time you see the cloaked Predator. So I think we concentrated in trying to bring that back into it, and I think we were successful.
You can't do 40 minutes now, though, can you?
Antal: No, and we don't. We handle it a little bit differently, and you're introduced to something early on.
Robert Rodriguez: But you can get away with a lot more, that fear, if the characters you write, the audience is – the characters are the eyes of the audience. So whatever the characters are doing believably, you will feel that, and you will not need to see them show up in five minutes if their presence is there and they have something to react to. And also it's easy to be a jerk and go back and say what didn't work at the time, and then you go back and say, oh yeah, well, Predator 2 was slightly in the future and that maybe pulled you that much further away from the characters that you could not relate to them because they were not current. Or you could say that AvP did not work because it became too much of an ultimate fighting champion bout rather than concentrating on character. So we've had the benefit of being able to see in the pictures what didn't work and now we can know what not to do, but had we been second, maybe we would have done something completely different too.
How much freedom did the studio give you?
Rodriguez: They were really good. They came down and they were actually great collaborators, because I guess early on they didn't want to scare me away. They said, "we want you to protect this movie from us. We want you to make it down there and do it your way. We'll give you a budget, and if you stay within the budget, you can do anything that you want. We don't know how you make movies down here for that price, [but] we just want to get in the hands of a filmmaker. We know that's what you do with these franchises that people try to revitalize, like Batman with [David] Goyer or Chris Nolan, just bringing it into their world." They said "that's the only way we can pull this off. Do your thing and make it cool and make it a Troublemaker Studios movie, you don't have to make it a Fox movie. We'll release it, but you don't have to make a Fox movie." So their only thing was make it as good as you can. So they were just very supportive.
Antal: Also to speak to that, I think that tactic, and that was a tactic on their part, was the best way to approach it. Because when you have someone on your neck the whole time and telling you this and this, you get to a point where you say, listen, what do you want me to do? But in this case, the fact that they had entrusted us with this project, it made me at least feel like I wanted to work even more, because now I can't say that well, the studio came down with a mandate. So it was really a positive environment for me and as far as creatively, it was just great.
Will this feel like a Predator Pandora? And did we see lady Predators in the concept art?
Rodriguez: I think some of them were just really sleek. What the idea was, and I might have mentioned this at the beginning, was that I was going to pick some art that we could talk about, and had forgotten how much art we had cranked out. Most of it was done by three guys that work at Troublemaker Digital who were churning out stuff to see, because I said let's see a lot of ideas so we can pick the best design. Create with this jawbone or that eye set, this body... and as I looked, we just had so much great stuff that I said, "well, let's just put it all up so people can see how difficult it would be to go through that process. Because you're like, "that's great – let's use him!" and 50 more flash by and you can hardly tell that there's a little bit something different here, and I like that one more. And then there are a lot of decisions you have to make as far as finding the right combination. And probably what we ended up with is some of those drawings, combinations of the drawings in there, but you'll have to wait for the movie to see what we actually used. Plus it changes more when you get to the sculpture stage and you play with the idea more, so some of that stuff isn't even final designs.
The footage you screened included music cues from James Horner's score, but the trailer indicates that John Debney is composing the score. How much of the music will reference or draw upon the original themes?
Rodriguez: I think we're going to go for something that fits the tone of the movie really well. That original score went great with the movie, but the notes and the music do really evoke a quality – you know, when he showed me his rough cut, or some scenes, every once in a while at the right moment I started hearing strings from the score – because we had a temp score, and it really works. To just go, oh, yeah, we're in a Predator movie. So I asked Fox, do we even have the rights to be able to use that music? They [said] oh yeah, you can use his original score, we can give you the original charts if you want to re-chart them and write something using references of it, here's the full thing. So we'll probably incorporate some of that. At the right time, because you don't want to overuse it. but it's like the James Bond theme – you can't use it all of the time, but when you do, you can get the audience really, really pumped.
Talk about the tone of the film. Will there be a lot of humor or self-awareness?
Antal: I think we had a balance. Clearly we wanted to concentrate on what the original film had brought and given, and I think that was the direction we were thinking of, but that said there are some hilarious moments in the film – really hilarious stuff. One of our actors, Walton Goggins, was just a blessing to have because you can have stuff written but he would improvise stuff, and I can't do it justice for you guys. You have to see it. but there's three or four beats where you'll be laughing.
Rodriguez: Yeah, it's great. When you have a cast like that, and also characters themselves where they don't know each other, the dynamics, they are from such different worlds, they mix together and they clash. We wanted the humor to come naturally from the characters in this story rather than us putting jokes in; it feels very real and improvised and maybe sometimes some of the best ones were improvised. Like we need to get this idea across and let's try it in three different scenes and we'll cut the two that aren't the funniest – that don't give it the levity it needs before something horrific happens. For misdirection, humor works, and for overall entertainment value, when an audience is audible, they know they're having a good time, so you do want that, but you don't want them to roll their eyes. A lot of that, my notes on the script were I'd get to a line and go, "no one's going to laugh at this. They're going to roll their eyes."
Antal: Yeah, there was a few times where I was really nervous because there was something in the script that I really disliked and I'd go up to Robert and I'd be preparing a speech and be like, "oh God, how can I try to get this out [of the scene]. I'd go up to him and give him this long monologue and then he'd go, "oh, dude, I never wanted to do that in the first place. Let's get rid of it."
Robert, what's going on with The Jetsons?
Rodriguez: I'm axing Jetsons. I'm actually doing another Spy Kids for The Weinsteins. That is a new version with new kids and it's actually pretty cool. That's probably what I'm going to do right next."
Is that a reboot of your own franchise?
Rodriguez: It's funny. It's like I can go do someone else's franchise that I don't own, or when I had the idea for this I thought, 'That's kind of cool. It's about 10 years later.' That's my most loyal audience. More than the geek crowd are the kids. Every day kids and families ome up and say. 'Thanks for Spy Kids. We're showing our new kids that.' So I thought let's revitalize it with an amazing cast and new kids. That sounds not as good as probably it really is but when you read the script, it actually is. It didn't sound like we were going back to the well for the fourth time. This actually feels completely new. I just turned it in so that's why I'm so excited about it."
Will this update the techniques you used on the previous installments?
Rodriguez: It's going to be more like the first ones. It'd be very practical, very realistic. It's like the Casino Royale to For Your Eyes Only. The other movies were the For Your Eyes Onlys. I love For Your Eyes Only, the Roger Moore James Bonds. This is the Casino Royale."
they are pretty much saying all the right things. if it holds true in the film, this could be what everyone here has been waiting for
Quote from: m138jewski on Mar 23, 2010, 04:30:43 AM
they are pretty much saying all the right things. if it holds true in the film, this could be what everyone here has been waiting for
It's what I've been telling everyone. This is it.
Im happy we will get to hear Silvestri's score in there.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Mar 23, 2010, 04:50:04 AM
Quote from: m138jewski on Mar 23, 2010, 04:30:43 AM
they are pretty much saying all the right things. if it holds true in the film, this could be what everyone here has been waiting for
It's what I've been telling everyone. This is it.
i think so too, soooo overdue
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Mar 23, 2010, 04:50:04 AM
Quote from: m138jewski on Mar 23, 2010, 04:30:43 AM
they are pretty much saying all the right things. if it holds true in the film, this could be what everyone here has been waiting for
It's what I've been telling everyone. This is it.
Michael's movie???
Different kind of predator...
Quote from: SM on Mar 23, 2010, 05:42:04 AM
Different kind of predator...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_UoIg5hXQWl0%2FSaHImst2KQI%2FAAAAAAAAABw%2FVDPsPCQrKcc%2Fs400%2Fonline-predator.jpg&hash=01a719e116efba7ee7fdddc85c551cc377335e90)
Quote from: ArielAleXCo on Mar 23, 2010, 05:39:16 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Mar 23, 2010, 04:50:04 AM
Quote from: m138jewski on Mar 23, 2010, 04:30:43 AM
they are pretty much saying all the right things. if it holds true in the film, this could be what everyone here has been waiting for
It's what I've been telling everyone. This is it.
Michael's movie???
XD I got it!!! hehehehehe
Quote from: Zebra Smeller on Mar 23, 2010, 06:02:51 AM
Quote from: ArielAleXCo on Mar 23, 2010, 05:39:16 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Mar 23, 2010, 04:50:04 AM
Quote from: m138jewski on Mar 23, 2010, 04:30:43 AM
they are pretty much saying all the right things. if it holds true in the film, this could be what everyone here has been waiting for
It's what I've been telling everyone. This is it.
Michael's movie???
XD I got it!!! hehehehehe
Yeap. Michael will live forever with presley... no... wait... he divorced her.
Did the footage they screened use Aliens music for the temp score, or was the interviewer just confused?
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Mar 23, 2010, 06:24:57 AM
Did the footage they screened use Aliens music for the temp score, or was the interviewer just confused?
dunno? maybe the footage that was screened used Aliens music but the question was directed as the original predator score?
Can't imagine predator fans getting "pumped" at hearing Aliens music, so they both must mean predator.
Nice interview, although everyone talks a good game these day's.
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Mar 23, 2010, 06:24:57 AM
Did the footage they screened use Aliens music for the temp score, or was the interviewer just confused?
It's what has been reported several times.
Over at ign there's a interview with Robert Rodriguez and he talks about some ideas that they couldn't fit into this movie that they could possibly do a sequel to PREDATORS;)
http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/429477/predator-3/videos/preds_rodriguez_sxsw_031910.html
Quote from: mgiunto on Mar 23, 2010, 11:06:45 AM
Over at ign there's a interview with Robert Rodriguez and he talks about some ideas that they couldn't fit into this movie that they could possibly do a sequel to PREDATORS;)
http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/429477/predator-3/videos/preds_rodriguez_sxsw_031910.html
this needs a seperate thread. nice find!
I wonder what ideas "in the original draft" he means?
(1) Humans making a deal with Preds for technology in exchange for humans prey
(2) Massive Gladiator battle where various bad-asses from throughout the universe duke it out whilst being watched over by a King Predator
Hate both of the above ideas
Unless he means the Predators leaked script draft by Litvak and co, if so then he could be talking about Isabelle....you know what I mean... ;) ;)..say no more....
That interview was music to my ears, looks like Fox is finally aware they are the problem and they really need to clean up their act before they scare off the real talent.
Well if it's awful, no one to blame but themselves. :P
I'm feeling pretty relaxed with this movie, I really don't have to convince myself that it's going to be good.
Big named actors, a talented director, a talented producer and a solid Predator story. It's got all the elements that make a good film.
Unlike the AVP films, it sounded bad, it looked bad and it had a bad crew right from the start. You had to convice yourself that it wouldn't be bad, when deep down inside you kind of knew it was lol. If there was anytime to get excited, it would be now. Just saying.
I'm pretty excited about the movie, but the Casino Royale line worries me because I didn't actually like that movie. :(
Quote from: brennan4 on Mar 23, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
I'm pretty excited about the movie, but the Casino Royale line worries me because I didn't actually like that movie. :(
I think he meant that the action scenes will be very real, and little CGI involved. Not sure though.
Quote from: Davjo on Mar 23, 2010, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: brennan4 on Mar 23, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
I'm pretty excited about the movie, but the Casino Royale line worries me because I didn't actually like that movie. :(
I think he meant that the action scenes will be very real, and little CGI involved. Not sure though.
good im not a big fan of CGI most of the time as it normally looks pretty bad and the characters look like they have no weight in their movements i hate it when the use it for gor as well it just looks downright silly
CG gore only looks good for flying limbs and background characters.
yeah, this interview was nice, and we know that fox is trying to make up for their mistakes.
QuoteUnlike the AVP films, it sounded bad, it looked bad and it had a bad crew right from the start. You had to convice yourself that it wouldn't be bad, when deep down inside you kind of knew it was lol. If there was anytime to get excited, it would be now. Just saying.
Quote from: PHANTOM on Dec 27, 2007, 03:36:10 AM
Wow, I saw AVP-R at Sony IMAX theater!
It had a giant screen! The sound system was freakin insane loud lol!
It was packed with people! And everyone was freakin the hell out! When the movie was done everyone clapped and cheered it was so great lol. This time I envited all of my friends and my family to see it, everyone loved it, I was totally blown away by the force of the film, it was so crazy I would just laugh watching everyone go "OHHHH!" "AHHH!" "woow!" lol ;D
When the credits rolled my friend yells out very loud "get to da choppa!" Bahaha! Everyone had lots of fun, this was nothing like watching Paul Andersons film bro. When I saw AVP nobody reacted to it at all, a couple of people left and no one really had a good time. AVP-R was a completely different story, everyone walked the theater like "wow did you see that?!" "Dude that movie was crazy!," everyone loved it. It was a great experience. Even my mom got excited when she saw the PredAlien fighting The Wolf bahaha! Watching her jump in her seat was so funny.
The brothers did one hell of job!This movie rocked! When the rooftop scene came I felt my heart beat increasing like if I was watching Aliens. Oh and the movie wasn't dark anymore, it was extremely sharp and very clear, everything was perfect this time. The sound system was so good that when ever any action would go on it felt like a f**king earth quake, muahahaha!!!
After watching AVP this time with a full house, at one of the biggest and best theaters you go too, I'm going to give my final score to the film right now.
Drum roll please................
Solid 8/10 Colin and Greg....You da man 8)
Btw, anyone who hasn't seen the movie yet, please take my advice! Go see the film at the best theater you can find, don't see it a crappy theater. If your lucky like me and have a IMAX theater Trust me go to that one!
???
Guess a couple of years can make a difference.
Quote from: brennan4 on Mar 23, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
I'm pretty excited about the movie, but the Casino Royale line worries me because I didn't actually like that movie. :(
I think he was referring to Casino Royale as a direct comparison to Roger Moore's Bond films. Whether you liked Casino Royale or not I would assume you'd agree that it's style is much more serious and gritty than the relatively cheezy exploits of Moore's bond (and I would argue pretty much every other bond film). Casino Royale, imo, was a good re imagining of the Bond universe and I believe that from RR's point of view this is the same style of re-imagining from Predator 2, AVP and AVP R (though I liked P2).
Quote from: SM on Mar 24, 2010, 01:27:16 AM
QuoteUnlike the AVP films, it sounded bad, it looked bad and it had a bad crew right from the start. You had to convice yourself that it wouldn't be bad, when deep down inside you kind of knew it was lol. If there was anytime to get excited, it would be now. Just saying.
Quote from: PHANTOM on Dec 27, 2007, 03:36:10 AM
Wow, I saw AVP-R at Sony IMAX theater!
It had a giant screen! The sound system was freakin insane loud lol!
It was packed with people! And everyone was freakin the hell out! When the movie was done everyone clapped and cheered it was so great lol. This time I envited all of my friends and my family to see it, everyone loved it, I was totally blown away by the force of the film, it was so crazy I would just laugh watching everyone go "OHHHH!" "AHHH!" "woow!" lol ;D
When the credits rolled my friend yells out very loud "get to da choppa!" Bahaha! Everyone had lots of fun, this was nothing like watching Paul Andersons film bro. When I saw AVP nobody reacted to it at all, a couple of people left and no one really had a good time. AVP-R was a completely different story, everyone walked the theater like "wow did you see that?!" "Dude that movie was crazy!," everyone loved it. It was a great experience. Even my mom got excited when she saw the PredAlien fighting The Wolf bahaha! Watching her jump in her seat was so funny.
The brothers did one hell of job!This movie rocked! When the rooftop scene came I felt my heart beat increasing like if I was watching Aliens. Oh and the movie wasn't dark anymore, it was extremely sharp and very clear, everything was perfect this time. The sound system was so good that when ever any action would go on it felt like a f**king earth quake, muahahaha!!!
After watching AVP this time with a full house, at one of the biggest and best theaters you go too, I'm going to give my final score to the film right now.
Drum roll please................
Solid 8/10 Colin and Greg....You da man 8)
Btw, anyone who hasn't seen the movie yet, please take my advice! Go see the film at the best theater you can find, don't see it a crappy theater. If your lucky like me and have a IMAX theater Trust me go to that one!
???
Guess a couple of years can make a difference.
Awesome :D You've been waiting to play that card for years ;D
Not quite that long. ;D
I was just curious about how people (in general - not just PHANTOM) frequently shitcan the AvPs now, but liked them at the time.
Nothing wrong with changing one's mind of course, but it is amusing that many will say "I knew it was going to suck all along", when in reality they were loving it.
Well we all know what happens when fox has too much imput on the franchise be it the Alien movies or the Predator Movies. I just hate this film to be another AVP flop.
I whana watch this new Predator film knowing it's gonna be a classic in 10 years time. I whana remember funny lines like "Get to the choppa" and stuff.
I hope fox gives Ridley Scott the same kind of freedom for the new Alien movie.
Quote from: QueenofDeath on Mar 24, 2010, 03:53:25 AM
Well we all know what happens when fox has too much imput on the franchise be it the Alien movies or the Predator Movies. I just hate this film to be another AVP flop.
I whana watch this new Predator film knowing it's gonna be a classic in 10 years time. I whana remember funny lines like "Get to the choppa" and stuff.
I hope fox gives Ridley Scott the same kind of freedom for the new Alien movie.
You're 2 for 2 buddy.
For Predators, Fox basically said: "Here, Robert. Take the 40 million, do whatever you want with it. Protect us from ourselves."
For the Alien Prequel, well, it IS Ridley Scott. He can do whatever he wants ablahblah NOW before I hear some psycho-babble bullshit on how the studio interfered with Kingdom of Heaven(Don't think you're smart or witty for bringing it up), did you ever stop to think that since they kissed his ass and refused to settle for another director, that they will let him do his thing...or did you stop and think(Yes...
think) that, oh I don't know, since he IS the director of the original Alien, that he uh, you know, is going to direct the prequel, that he knows it better than everybody else?
Quote from: m138jewski on Mar 23, 2010, 04:30:43 AM
they are pretty much saying all the right things. if it holds true in the film, this could be what everyone here has been waiting for
we were all thinking the same thing 3 years ago with the bros. and look how that turned out. but i have alot more faith woth these guys. and if rodreguz had alot to do with the production and stuff it will be good.
QuoteWhat is it that you think the last few cinematic iterations of Predator may have lacked that you wanted to restore for Predators?
Nimrod Antal: I think the hunt, and suspense. Trying to take it back to what works in classic horror films and trying to keep the monster in the shadows as opposed to throwing him in your face right off the bat. I think if you look at the timeline on the first film, you have I think 40 minutes into the film was the first time you see the cloaked Predator. So I think we concentrated in trying to bring that back into it, and I think we were successful.
You can't do 40 minutes now, though, can you?
Antal: No, and we don't. We handle it a little bit differently, and you're introduced to something early on.
First glimpse of an extraterrestrial in AVP came when the first Predator appeared about
30 minutes in.
Director Fail.
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The footage you screened included music cues from James Horner's score, but the trailer indicates that John Debney is composing the score. How much of the music will reference or draw upon the original themes?
James Horner?! ALAN SILVESTRI.
Interviewer Fail.
Half this interview seems near copy/paste to one from last week.
Quote from: Bishop2 on Mar 24, 2010, 01:57:08 PM
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The footage you screened included music cues from James Horner's score, but the trailer indicates that John Debney is composing the score. How much of the music will reference or draw upon the original themes?
James Horner?! ALAN SILVESTRI.
Interviewer Fail.
It's been stated in some other interviews that the footage did indeed use James Horner's score from Aliens...
Quote from: Dylan on Mar 24, 2010, 01:31:26 AM
Quote from: brennan4 on Mar 23, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
I'm pretty excited about the movie, but the Casino Royale line worries me because I didn't actually like that movie. :(
I think he was referring to Casino Royale as a direct comparison to Roger Moore's Bond films. Whether you liked Casino Royale or not I would assume you'd agree that it's style is much more serious and gritty than the relatively cheezy exploits of Moore's bond (and I would argue pretty much every other bond film). Casino Royale, imo, was a good re imagining of the Bond universe and I believe that from RR's point of view this is the same style of re-imagining from Predator 2, AVP and AVP R (though I liked P2).
Actually he was referring to the next entry in his Spy Kids series.. ;)
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Mar 24, 2010, 04:00:35 AM
Quote from: QueenofDeath on Mar 24, 2010, 03:53:25 AM
Well we all know what happens when fox has too much imput on the franchise be it the Alien movies or the Predator Movies. I just hate this film to be another AVP flop.
I whana watch this new Predator film knowing it's gonna be a classic in 10 years time. I whana remember funny lines like "Get to the choppa" and stuff.
I hope fox gives Ridley Scott the same kind of freedom for the new Alien movie.
You're 2 for 2 buddy.
For Predators, Fox basically said: "Here, Robert. Take the 40 million, do whatever you want with it. Protect us from ourselves."
For the Alien Prequel, well, it IS Ridley Scott. He can do whatever he wants ablahblah NOW before I hear some psycho-babble bullshit on how the studio interfered with Kingdom of Heaven(Don't think you're smart or witty for bringing it up), did you ever stop to think that since they kissed his ass and refused to settle for another director, that they will let him do his thing...or did you stop and think(Yes...think) that, oh I don't know, since he IS the director of the original Alien, that he uh, you know, is going to direct the prequel, that he knows it better than everybody else?
Well The directors cut of Kingdom of Heaven is master piece, theres like forty minutes more footage. And belive me the directors cut version of the movie made what was a medicore movie at best into a timeless epic, what is one of my favourite movies.
Yeah thanks for agreeing with me anyway.
Director Nimrod Antal and Producer Robert Rodriguez talk about staying faithful to the original film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8iG4G_6z_8
Quote from: SM on Mar 24, 2010, 01:44:31 AM
Not quite that long. ;D
I was just curious about how people (in general - not just PHANTOM) frequently shitcan the AvPs now, but liked them at the time.
Nothing wrong with changing one's mind of course, but it is amusing that many will say "I knew it was going to suck all along", when in reality they were loving it.
I think AVPR and even the first AVP are pretty good movies. I think most people here are bullshitting when they say they didn't like them, or at least weren't entertained by them. As for Predators, I think it's going to rock meh socks, but if it sucks I'm not gunna come on here and write a two page post where I bitch and moan about it.
I liked AVP and AVP-R. The movie kinda went the wrong way when Lex ran away with Scar. At that point ... that wasn't a Predator to me anymore.
AVP-R? Tough one. The gore was there for ONE thing ... gore. Nothing more.
I have high hopes for this movie. Peter Jackson + Neil Blomkamp delivered District 9, which I really love. Rodriguez with Antal ... can't wait to see whats in store for us.
Not sure if this video has been posted yet. It's RR saying pretty much the same thing: http://www.fandango.com/predatorsmovietrailer/2_209981/v487162 (http://www.fandango.com/predatorsmovietrailer/2_209981/v487162)