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Title: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on Dec 27, 2006, 11:51:28 AM
Thought I'd make this thread. The teaser was released a few days ago.

Name: Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Released: June 15, 2007
Official Site: http://www.fantasticfourmovie.com/
Plot: Marvel's first family of superheroes, The Fantastic Four, meets their greatest challenge yet in "Fantastic Four: Rise of The Silver Surfer" as the enigmatic, intergalactic herald, The Silver Surfer, comes to Earth to prepare it for destruction. As the Silver Surfer races around the globe wreaking havoc, Reed, Sue, Johnny and Ben must unravel the mystery of the Silver Surfer and confront the surprising return of their mortal enemy, Dr. Doom, before all hope is lost.

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Teaser: http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantasticfourriseofthesilversurfer/
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: CELTICPRED on Dec 27, 2006, 09:58:02 PM
Saw the trailer last night.  I don't like movies that are the gateway for a whole new franchise, but this one looks like it will be ok to watch.

I liked how Surfer fell through his own surfboard to look behind him, it was very badass.


Yet, I don't like the teaser pic of him, his eyes, they are just to fake looking, I would have been fine if they kept them plain white.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Cabal on Dec 28, 2006, 05:14:47 AM
That looks good, but I hate the cast, I particularly hate that Johnny actually says "flame on", I hate (and love) Jessica Alba - if only there was talent to go with that beauty.

I do like the character of the silver surfer, but don't know what to make of him in this film.

That one scene alone is probably enough to make it better than FF though. Not a hard thing to accomplish.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on Dec 28, 2006, 10:30:12 PM
Don't you just love the flame effects on Johnny though? I just watched the teaser again and really like the effects. They're outstanding.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: CELTICPRED on Dec 28, 2006, 10:43:10 PM
I'd like to get back to school and watch it on our school's widescreen Mac computers. I have dialup, so I am forced to use youtube.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Dec 29, 2006, 12:07:13 AM
I like marvel movies  ;D

I cant wait untill the Punisher 2 is made and released.  ;D

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Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Cabal on Dec 29, 2006, 06:51:39 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 28, 2006, 10:30:12 PM
Don't you just love the flame effects on Johnny though? I just watched the teaser again and really like the effects. They're outstanding.

Yes, it looks well. But CGI shit looks just as fantastic.

However, the Punisher 2 film will be note-worthy not for it's looks, at very leaqst. So I'm looking forward a lot to that. Marvel know their stuff for the most part. FF2 is just too up in the air, quality wise, for me to be comfortable with.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: DRACO ^V^ on Jan 01, 2007, 12:40:47 AM
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 28, 2006, 10:30:12 PM
Don't you just love the flame effects on Johnny though? I just watched the teaser again and really like the effects. They're outstanding.
I Agree,The effects are AWESOME,I cant wait to see this one!.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on Jan 04, 2007, 08:21:03 PM
QuoteHowever, the Punisher 2 film will be note-worthy not for it's looks, at very leaqst. So I'm looking forward a lot to that.

Hmm, I've not even seen the first one. What's it about?
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Mr. Weyland on Jan 04, 2007, 08:35:14 PM
Well I am the right guy to talk to about Punisher, heres the movie plot and other info

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Punisher_(2004_film)

and about the Punisher.

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Punisher_%28Frank_Castle%29
Title: Fantastic Four 2 Trailer
Post by: carlp06 on Jan 04, 2007, 09:25:48 PM
Ive just seen the new Fantastic Four 2 trailer and I thought i'd start a topic here on it.
The trailer looks really good with the Silver Surfer.
You can view it on www.fantasticfourmovie.com
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 06, 2007, 11:57:36 AM
The acting in that trailer looks ridiculous.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on Jan 06, 2007, 01:25:48 PM
Acting? What acting? It was entirely an action sequence with hardly any words said.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 06, 2007, 01:44:56 PM
Just when Flamo was said, and he talked about his tux, it was enough.  :D
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on Jan 06, 2007, 04:10:30 PM
Well, yeah, he said stuff like that in the first FF so it's to be expected. Take it for what it is.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 06, 2007, 04:13:11 PM
Just visual effects? Not enough to pull me in, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on Jan 06, 2007, 04:18:42 PM
No film is perfect. They all have some flaws. You like Predator don't you? As much as I love it, some film critic could point out a million problems with it. It's not gonna make you like Predator any less, is it?
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 06, 2007, 04:44:34 PM
Indeed, but it has more than just one weak element to draw me in.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Cabal on Jan 06, 2007, 06:34:21 PM
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 06, 2007, 04:44:34 PM
Indeed, but it has more than just one weak element to draw me in.

Going by the first film it has a lot of problems to deal with, but they've taken steps to improve the sequel. A better thing costume, bringing in the best character from the comic (the silver surfer originated in FF right?).

If it goes properly over the top, which is really what it needs to do to be enjoyable, it could be very entertaining. We already have superhero films made to be "realistic" (you know what I mean), more of the same with weaker characters, sorry FF, doesn't work. Over the top action set pieces, and a world destroying galactic super-being would be a nice change of pace.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2 Trailer
Post by: Darkness on Jan 06, 2007, 09:30:30 PM
Ha, too late. I made a topic about it in December: http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=264.0

But I'm glad you like it. You should download the HD version. Looks great.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2 Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Jan 07, 2007, 05:26:07 AM
Silver Surfer looks kickass
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2 Trailer
Post by: Stay Frosty on Jan 07, 2007, 04:17:56 PM
Surfer looks like the T-1000'S poor cousin, how long ago was T2 ? 13 years ? terrible.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on Jan 07, 2007, 09:38:07 PM
Quote from: Cabal on Jan 06, 2007, 06:34:21 PMGoing by the first film it has a lot of problems to deal with, but they've taken steps to improve the sequel. A better thing costume,

I've often wondered if it would have been better doing the Thing in CGI. You know, like the Hulk? A lot of people didn't like the CGI Hulk but I loved it. Thought it was great.

Quotebringing in the best character from the comic (the silver surfer originated in FF right?).

Yeah, first appeared in a FF comic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Surfer

QuoteIf it goes properly over the top, which is really what it needs to do to be enjoyable, it could be very entertaining. We already have superhero films made to be "realistic" (you know what I mean), more of the same with weaker characters, sorry FF, doesn't work. Over the top action set pieces, and a world destroying galactic super-being would be a nice change of pace.

Well, yeah that's the thing. If you're expecting something along the lines of X-Men, you'll be very disappointed.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Shaak on Jan 07, 2007, 10:32:15 PM
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 06, 2007, 04:13:11 PM
Just visual effects? Not enough to pull me in, I'm afraid.

Agree.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 08, 2007, 02:08:10 PM
Quote from: Darkness on Jan 07, 2007, 09:38:07 PM
Quote from: Cabal on Jan 06, 2007, 06:34:21 PMGoing by the first film it has a lot of problems to deal with, but they've taken steps to improve the sequel. A better thing costume,

I've often wondered if it would have been better doing the Thing in CGI. You know, like the Hulk? A lot of people didn't like the CGI Hulk but I loved it. Thought it was great.

Quotebringing in the best character from the comic (the silver surfer originated in FF right?).

Yeah, first appeared in a FF comic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Surfer

QuoteIf it goes properly over the top, which is really what it needs to do to be enjoyable, it could be very entertaining. We already have superhero films made to be "realistic" (you know what I mean), more of the same with weaker characters, sorry FF, doesn't work. Over the top action set pieces, and a world destroying galactic super-being would be a nice change of pace.

Well, yeah that's the thing. If you're expecting something along the lines of X-Men, you'll be very disappointed.

Thats the thing X-Men was pretty damn good.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Cabal on Jan 08, 2007, 04:58:48 PM
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 08, 2007, 02:08:10 PM
Thats the thing X-Men was pretty damn good.

But if you took a formula from the X-Men films and applied it to Fantastic Four you would end up with far less satisfying results.

X-Men has a certain serisousness that FF doesn't. There is greater conflict with the characters on a whole, and a message (many messages) to go with X-Men, particularly due to the widespread nature of the mutations occuring. The same cannot be said for FF.

On the other hand, it is perfectly okay for FF to have a character like the Silver Surfer (we're talking about his origins here, not his look or abilities) and even Galacticus.


I should mention that I'm talking in terms of the films, not the comics entire.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 08, 2007, 08:00:06 PM
Yeah, I know what you are saying. But for me, personally, there is nothing in it but glazzy effects, and that isn't enough.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2 Trailer
Post by: carlp06 on Jan 13, 2007, 10:59:16 AM
Quote from: Stay Frosty on Jan 07, 2007, 04:17:56 PM
Surfer looks like the T-1000'S poor cousin, how long ago was T2 ? 13 years ? terrible.
Exactly what I was thinkin on the surfers look. :'(
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2 Trailer
Post by: CELTICPRED on Jan 13, 2007, 07:10:05 PM
Who knew the T-100 could surf as well??



T2 was made in 91.  15 and a half years ago, and I still think the T-1000 looks better.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2 Trailer
Post by: CPL HICKS on Jan 19, 2007, 03:11:16 AM
Hopefull it will have better acting this time.
The Surfer looks "BAD-ASS"
sure hope it does well. In my opinion it still won't come close to Spidey-3, or the Transformers.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2 Trailer
Post by: RidgeTop on Jan 20, 2007, 05:55:39 AM
The Trailer made the first Fantastic Four film look good... and thats not a good thing.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Cabal on Jan 20, 2007, 08:59:09 PM
Silver Surfer's got balls (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/31303).

It's time to bring the real FF2 thread back to the fore.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on Jan 20, 2007, 09:47:42 PM
I don't know what I'm surprised more at; somebody actually noticing that in the first place or the makers putting it in there.  :o
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: CELTICPRED on Jan 21, 2007, 12:19:09 AM
That's pretty humorous.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on May 01, 2007, 05:17:01 PM
FF2 Trailer is out:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/fantasticfourriseofthesilversurfer/

Looks great.

Though Jessica Alba's hair looks ridiculous.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: ShadowPred on May 02, 2007, 06:37:43 PM
hope to god that the movie is at least as intense as the trailer
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Corporal Hicks on May 04, 2007, 04:18:51 PM
I'm willing to bet it'll be as shit as the first one. But I'll see it anyway for the pretty effects.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: slipknotpredator on May 04, 2007, 04:53:08 PM
the first one looked like an introduction to the series, it was ok, but at the end it was like: so? whats next? is that it?
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Dachande on May 28, 2007, 01:56:38 AM
I give thou....GALACTUS!

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Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: ShadowPred on May 28, 2007, 02:43:32 AM
uh actually he's going to be a storm cloud in the movie.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on May 28, 2007, 04:25:15 PM
it was said that he is a storm cloud, but then this picture was released so it kinda made everyone go... Uh? Cloud? So maybe theyve changed it... Maybe they haven't. I don't think they have, but I would like it changed to the original Galactus
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: ShadowPred on May 28, 2007, 05:15:00 PM
I hope to god that the storm cloud is just covering up galactus, just like independance day clouds of death (what i like to call them) were covering up the alien ships so...
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on May 28, 2007, 07:35:52 PM
so do I, I liked how they came out of the clouds in independence day.
What I am not looking forward to... Doom riding the Surfers board, and the 4 gettin all their powers mixed up.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: ShadowPred on May 28, 2007, 07:39:10 PM
Ya, that's pretty much the stupidist thing ever. I mean, i can't even imagine how stupid doom is going to look like on the Surfer's board.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on May 28, 2007, 11:33:39 PM
they can pull it off... i hope they pull it off, but i think they wont lol... itll probably be stupid, i mean you gotta try really hard to make doom riding the surfers board cool.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: ShadowPred on May 29, 2007, 09:33:08 PM
I am imagining on how it would look like, and i feel embarassed. :-[
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on May 30, 2007, 04:03:58 AM
i have already pictured myself in the theatre seeing that and cowering down in my seat feeling embarrased for actually watching that.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Jun 06, 2007, 05:34:47 PM
it got a PG rating...
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on Jun 06, 2007, 05:42:15 PM
I thought you meant the US rating then. Not too bad. I expected a 12 though. The first one was PG too.

Check out this new clip at IGN: http://uk.media.movies.ign.com/media/762/762424/vids_1.html

Silver Surfer Meets Sue.

Great vfx.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Mike’s Monsters on Jun 06, 2007, 07:04:46 PM
the first one had a pg13 rating in the U.S. Which could possibly mean it won't have as much action. Which I really hope I am wrong about.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: SM on Jun 08, 2007, 03:54:28 AM
QuoteI give thou....GALACTUS!

Looks like Saturn to me. *zing!*

And not a very good Saturn at that.

That said, I've never seen the first one but meaning to for ages.  Ioan Gruffyd's great, so I look forward to catching this one after finally watching the first one.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 16, 2007, 10:41:00 PM
Actually, the shadow is him.

So I just saw it today. I'll admit, was very surprised. I didn't go in expecting much and it wasn't a masterpiece by any standards, but it was a lot better than F4 1 and Spiderman 3. They actually tried for some semi-decent character developement!

Pretty funny with some cool stuff in. Also, I was the only one who laughed at Reed proposing a tachyon pulse would stop the Surfer.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: ShadowPred on Jun 16, 2007, 11:10:37 PM
Did the stormloud at least had galatus's olors or something...did it talk? Did silver surfer talk to it?

I am getting this on bootleg tomorrow,
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: fluxcap on Jun 16, 2007, 11:25:07 PM
Just saw it, it was borderline crap but better than the first film. The Silver Surfer has some cool moments. Be wary there are some hardcore corny moments in this flick. I figured the Doom Surfer was going to be terrible, but it was pretty decent.

The interesting thing about Galactus is that he may be a storm cloud, or he may not be. There is a portion towards the end where Silver Surfer confronts Galactus and I could have sworn there were subtle hints of machinery behind all the clouds. Then again those could just be homage to his look from the comics, like his shadow on Saturn.

Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: ShadowPred on Jun 16, 2007, 11:26:12 PM
The shadow on saturn is his helmet!!!  WHY!!!!!

If it was on saturn!! what the hell!
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: fluxcap on Jun 16, 2007, 11:31:16 PM
Thats the mystery, is it homage or is it Galactus in full form? (except we don't see him in the film like that)
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Trioxide on Jun 17, 2007, 04:33:16 AM
Yeah, anyway...so ummmm...was Jess - I mean Sue Storm- naked or close to naked  ;D

LOL ...    :-\
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: fluxcap on Jun 17, 2007, 05:41:25 AM
Expertly blocked by extras and camera angles.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 17, 2007, 07:11:50 AM
Lol but she did get naked. I'll admit, I was surprised at the before naked bit. You could see flaming breasts!  :o In a PG! And the rockslide joke and the use of piss.  :o
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Trioxide on Jun 17, 2007, 05:00:15 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 17, 2007, 07:11:50 AM
Lol but she did get naked. I'll admit, I was surprised at the before naked bit. You could see flaming breasts!  :o In a PG! And the rockslide joke and the use of piss.  :o

Say whaaaaaa...  :D
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: luispaulo53 on Jun 17, 2007, 06:48:32 PM
Just saw it, i was expecting more, but it is a good movie.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Master Chief on Jun 18, 2007, 06:37:50 PM
Silver Surfer was the best thing about the movie.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Alienseseses on Jun 19, 2007, 02:21:17 AM
I loved it.

When we see the inside of Galactus, there is a flaming helmet shape.
The cloud, and its other victims, was done well.

Doom rocked. His fight scene rocked.
When the guy got blown up, I was thinking... why is this PG?

The ending made no sense.

POSSIBLE SPOILER







So, if he wanted to, Silvy could have killed Galactus whenever he wanted?
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: ShadowPred on Jun 25, 2007, 02:38:27 AM
I cannot believe I am saying this, I actually enjoyed the movie, do not tell me how, but this movie was actually good. The burning mass of Galactus was what made me forgive their decision to make him a damn cloud, Galactus was even referred as a "HE", and i think i did see eyes, when th Surfer was getting close to him. Hopefully when they do the Sufer movie, they will at least do something to make Galactus look like the humanoid Galactus, cause in the comics Galactus is seen differently to most planets that he comes to devour, who's to say that in one other planet he nis not seen as a humanoid type of giant.


And yes, I agree that the ending was like "huh?" If the Sufer did that, what was stopping him from "killing" Galactus in the first place?
Title: Fantastic 4 rise of the silver surfer
Post by: ElderPredator on Jun 26, 2007, 06:48:30 PM
Who's seen Fantastic 4 rise of the silver surfer is it good?
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Cellien on Jun 27, 2007, 03:04:51 PM
Without Silver Surfer, this movie would have totally sucked.  That said, I liked it better than Spidey 3 :\
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Darkness on Jul 01, 2007, 06:23:29 PM
Well, I've seen it at last. I liked it, will be getting the DVD when it comes out. There were a few scenes that were a little silly. There were a couple of funny jokes. Effects were great. Kinda thought the ending was too rushed. If the Silver Surfer could have destroyed Galactus at any time, why didn't he before? And how did he do it? I thought the film was way too short too. Shame there wasn't more action scenes with the Surfer.

I didn't like Jessica Alba's hair or blue contacts either.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: ElderPredator on Jul 08, 2007, 03:23:16 AM
I finally saw it and i thought it was great, like Cellien said it was a lot better than Spiderman 3.
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Trioxide on Jul 08, 2007, 05:20:19 AM
Could someone please tell me all about Frankie Raye ?

What scenes she appears in, Johnny and Raye a couple, etc.... ?

Thanks!    :D

>:(
Title: Re: Fantastic Four 2
Post by: Alienseseses on Jul 15, 2007, 04:35:30 AM
She's in the army and Johnny likes her.

In the comics, she replaces the Silver Surfer as Nova.