I suppose that since this franchise is being taken into batshit plot territory, we can rule out Adam Baldwin and/or his teams appearance? By the way, I remember something about him being approached for AVP:R. What happened there?
QuoteWhat happened there?
They asked him to do a cameo, he simply denied and said no.
I would like to pretend that he was the one that the Straus Bro. said "and they just told us off."
i think we had more cameo's (subtle or not) in AVPR to do us for the next 3 movies......
new material please.......anything
i just got the real creeps even typing AVPR
No short titles please Fox, predators is just fine, we'll give you that one.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Jun 02, 2009, 01:15:28 PM
I would like to pretend that he was the one that the Straus Bro. said "and they just told us off."
Yeah, he was a bit rude to them. He had dignity, and knew better than to appear in a "versus sequel", which led to the Strauses being told to f*ck off.
Bill Paxton was willing, but not thrilled, but they couldn't arrange days for him to fly out, and he was way too pricey.
The Strauses wanted Michael Biehn as one of the soldiers at the end, but the studio refused.
But there was one actor they
didn't want: Busta Rhymes. Ahem, I'm not joking. I guess the studio wanted him to slightly increase ticket sales.
In what capacity would Bill Paxton have appeared?
O + as much as i love Michael Biehn i'm glad he wasn't in this @ all. He would have been been smart enough to say no if they asked him.
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Jun 03, 2009, 10:48:00 PM
In what capacity would Bill Paxton have appeared?
O + as much as i love Michael Biehn i'm glad he wasn't in this @ all. He would have been been smart enough to say no if they asked him.
Bill Paxton would have played the chef. It was so he could be killed by an Alien, Predator, and Predalien. I am glad he steered clear of this cruddy slasher "film", which he is above. He must be dissapointed that the series went from Alien(which he was very enthusaistic about) to AvP:R, a film of Youtube quality that some how made it to theaters. And no offense but Michael Biehn doesn't exactly show up in the best movies these days.
I know Michael Biehn has been in some sup-far flicks but i still think he is above making a cameo in AvP:R and would be able to recognize what a pice of shit it was/is.
+ yeah - i'm certainly glad Bill Paxton wasn't in it - just so he could be killed by all three...
Bill Paxton is a pretty good director himself - see Frailty. I doubt he would be appearing in sub-par Versus slasher flicks. Maybe Lance Henrikson would've been in it if asked - he's done alot of straight-to-video movies.
Lance!!!! I love Lance Henriksen + all his B-movies. I mean, regardless of the movies quality Lance always gives it his all. I caught Alone in the Dark 2 recently + he had a line 'I'm immune to this hocus-pocus' when touching some ancient artifact + my not quite sober friends + i attributed it to his being in so many B-movies that he simply can't be harmed by anything.
I remember how everyone and their dog were spewing venom at Baldwin for not accepting the role. I said at the time that, considering it was a choice between a cameo or being a major star in a television series, that he made what was the right decision. The usual response was that he should have disregarded job security, simply for the fact of this being part of a (once-great) cinematic franchise, which was not taking into account what the quality of this one could be.
Of course, I also tried pointing out that Garber was also a bit of a crappy character and that there was every reason to not want to be further associated with it. :)
Garber was Keys's mademan, but it would be neat if he appears now (much older and experienced) as leader of this organization, with his own plan to catch or kill Predator.
The organisation's portrayal, itself, was crappy. I'd rather it never be brought up in the films, ever again. If the government really wanted to capture a dangerous extraterrestrial, it would it would be military and far better planned than that escapade had been.
Plan was ok. to get the bastard when it is eating and most defenceless.
Quote from: Master on Jun 06, 2009, 06:32:55 PM
Plan was ok. to get the bastard when it is eating and most defenceless.
The way they went about it, though, especially without any back-up plan, whatsoever, was a bit silly.
And, really, did they think those glorified fire extinguishers would immediately freeze a
moving and fairly angry target? Did they ever test them? :)
I don"t think that they have predator earlier to test it :D You know, hunting alien crature for the first time is as risky as creating new explosive material. Either it will work like charm or it will vaporize you :D Also they haven't seen the films they didint know that it can change view specter. In P3 Garber's team would be nice touch because they have experiencd and now can perform much better plan.
They don't have to test it against a Predator, just a man-sized target. :)
Heck, even just a stationary piece of wood would have informed them it's not going to instantly freeze!
They were crap, portrayed weirdly and there are precedents for real-life groups ('Project Moondust', for instance) which would be much more interesting to explore.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Jun 08, 2009, 12:25:46 AM
They don't have to test it against a Predator, just a man-sized target. :)
Heck, even just a stationary piece of wood would have informed them it's not going to instantly freeze!
They were crap, portrayed weirdly and there are precedents for real-life groups ('Project Moondust', for instance) which would be much more interesting to explore.
Depends, like master said they had no idea the predator could change its vision, they were probably banking on being a whole group and closing in on the predator at once, as opposed to being picked off.
You know i was jokeing with this another Predator to test it. Right? Also I think that those ice throwers were not supposed to freeze him, but rather to weaken him enough to capture. They knew that heat brings him on earth so they used oposite and prayed to be succesfull. And it was working as we can see but Keys alone had insufficient "fire" power to weaken it enough and failed.
Whether or not it can change vision, that's the point of contingencies: In case your initial plan fails, you have something to fall back on.
They literally had nothing, aside from the guys with actual guns, who were all grouped in tightly with the others, in any case.
Adam is great so I am glad he told them to sod off.
we dont know how many people they actualy had. The backup plan was probably to feed it with lead, but Pred cremed them so quickly that they didn't have time to react.
Number isn't the issue. They were all clumped together in the same basic location. There wasn't a contingency plan, more of an alternative way of going about their primary objectives.
Truth there wasn't and they f**ked. Garber was stuned and didn't reacted as Harrigan sugested. Now he is smarter and can organise an action better. Let him do so.
Actually Garber's team could capture the Pred and then we could have some AvP2 game like sequence, when the hunter is captured and left basically weapon less.
Quote from: Master on Jun 09, 2009, 10:24:36 AM
Now he is smarter and can organise an action better.
What makes you think that? :)
Besides, he was a second-rate Gorman copy. It's a generic character who anybody could replace.
Cause he saw the masacre and know what capable of is the creature :) I know that in P2 Garber had three lines of dialogue and he is replacable but when Harrigan at the end of films says "don't worry f**ker, you'll get your chance", i always wanted that this chance was given to him. Now there is ocasion so why not?