Just read this over at Bloody Disgusting. Heres the article.
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16328
Edit: Might wanna post this in the News section...
...f**k it.
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16328
I looked and couldnt find this bit of news under any other section, so sorry in advance if this is a repeat.
Bloody Disgusting's original informer on the Predator remake has come forth to the website saying that 20th century fox is now planning to do an Alien remake, and a second source is saying that the movie is instead more likely to be an origin story. Neither of these sources have been directly quoted, but the first source was dead on with the Predator remake so this could possibly be true.
The rumor is that Michael Costigan, Ridley Scott and Tony Scott are attached to produce the film that is as of now either A: a remake (with one alien on board) or B: a new origin story. Some commercial and music video director, Carl Rinsch, is reported as being the director.
Lol, you posted this 4 seconds before I did in the news section.
Oh yeah, and /wrists.
Oh f**ks sake!
Wait. Check this: Update (12:07am, May 28): We just heard from a separate reliable source that Fox is possibly working on an origins story, as opposed to a straight-up remake. Still...
That's not really a better alternative.
Although honestly, I don't think I care. If this is actually happening, it will suck. End of. It. Will. Suck. Alien is the best you can do with a monster on a space-ship. It took us 28 f**king years to test run the concept, and then wham, Alien did it. Alien nailed it. You cannot do better than Alien, because it is the best of what it is. It's the same reason shark movies never work; Jaws is just too good.
They really need to get their facts straight. There's a big difference between a remake and prequel.
But Alien was the origin story. The only bit before that was the jockey - Alien with a crew of Jockeys, wow - or a WY probe going past and picking up the signal.
Holy F**k... i really don't know what 2 think - or if i even believe it
Hmmm let's hope they don't screw this up i'm putting my trust in ridley scott.
f**k. Yes.
Lets hope :)
A prequel isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's really the only way they can do another Alien film.
What? I'm excited about it. Fair enough, I also feel slightly protective over the franchise, as I kind of in a wierd way feel like it's my own, but I want to see it advance as long as it's done in the right way.
EDIT: I should clarify, that I'm all for the idea of this being a prequel, but a remake of Alien? f**k no. No-one is stupid enough to want that!
Sounds terrible, but the prequel would be nice :-\
wow, just wow. I didnt think they can desacrate alien franchise more than they did, and yet they did. They dug out the beaten up corpse and done it again. I dont know whats worse, remake or origins. my god...just wow
It's always the same thing, they ruin a franchise with shitty sequels then they go and remake the originals.
Or a prequel. But I'm currently 'meh' on a prequel.
NO, I repeat, NO REMAKE.
There is absoloutely no point in remaking this... "Alien" is a classic, easily available on DVD and soon on blu-ray... why would you want to remake it when the original is held in such high regard?!
I'm all for a prequel/origins story not certainly NOT a remake with some other girl playing Ripley. It's beyond stupid.
Im all for a preequal as well! Not a remake!
When I read this news, my vision went all red and this music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhrbK254yRE) played.
I don't understand how you can do an origins story, ALIEN was the origin story. What're they gonna do, say "OH WE WERE LYING!!! THE ALIEN MET SOME HUMANS BEFORE RIPLEY!!!".
Sounds like Ripley's gotten sick of seeing his baby being raped, so is trying to save it in a way thats only going to rape it even more. Nice move.
They're just seeing Star Trek making loads of money and going through their properties and working out what they can milk. Probably a whole bunch of studios doing the exact same thing.
Whatever they do, it's not going to affect the original.
(Except maybe make it look better).
Yeh i would agree with that SM! May make it better! :)
Quote from: SM on May 28, 2009, 10:48:41 AM
Whatever they do, it's not going to affect the original.
(Except maybe make it look better).
Not exactly...
Its going to have to have human characters in, otherwise it'll be shit. And it's an origins story. ALIEN was meant to be the first time Humans met the creature (excluding those two films that never existed), so having someone meet it before hand is just gonna f**k up the canon, and make the whole scenario in the original less special.
Or they could do the whole thing form the point of view of the Jockeys, but that'd be sooooo f**king bad.
It is possible that another group of people came in contact with the aliens, perhaps on a different planet and none of them escaped like Ripley did.
True that true that Aeus! Yeh that could be possible Darkness!
Quote from: Darkness on May 28, 2009, 10:58:38 AM
It is possible that another group of people came in contact with the aliens, perhaps on a different planet and none of them escaped like Ripley did.
Yeah it is, but it also spoils the fist film for me. One of the reasons I like it as the guys on the Nostromo are the first humans to find this level of Alien life form, and it happens to be the most dangerous creature in the universe. I just think thats awesome.
In any case, if another group of people come into contact with the Aliens, how is it going to be any different from what we've seen already? We've seen a few people in a confined environment go up against one, with limited weaponry. We've seen a squad of heavilly armed Marines go up against a whole hive of 'em. etc etc. The reason it worked a second time in Aliens, is that they were briefed on the Alien, they kinda knew what they were expecting, so they didn't spend ages explaining the hell out of its life cycle... and they also fought more than one (which was great for the audience). If these people in ALIEN: ORIGINS (or whatever) have no clue what it is, we're just going to have the exact same film that ALIEN was, except with different people and maybe more Aliens. Can't wait to see the space faring Folk band facing off against the Alien.
Quote from: Zwecky on May 28, 2009, 07:55:47 AM
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QuoteNot exactly...
Its going to have to have human characters in, otherwise it'll be shit. And it's an origins story.
All based on a hours old rumour?
Most people don't have any drama excising AvP from the continuity. If this does turn out to be a prequel, it can be judged on it's merits or lack thereof when it comes out. AvP doesn't affect my enjoyment of the existing Alien films; if this turns out to just as f**ktarded as AvP, it's not going to affect it either.
Remember how many scripts Alien3 went through before they settled on something? Imagine what the rumour mill would've been like if there Alien forums back then. Same with Resurrection - it had no Ripley to begin with. Even Aliens didn't at one point. This has got a long time to go before they settle on story for good or ill. If Riddles is involved Siggy and Hans Rudi may stick their mitts up and we'll get an AlienV.
Same rumor about Predator reboot in January and then by Fox confirmed in April....so I just wait now until August and come back for this one.
All I can say is, why?
If a product is not wanted by the consumer, why make and sell it, FOX has no logic.
How do you know it's not wanted? When Star Trek Enterprise ended, the public didn't want Star Trek either. Now the new film is heading for $300m in box office.
We in general may not want it - but we only make up a very small percentage of punters. We can appreciate the pacing of Alien or Aliens. Short attention spans want something faster with big explosions that make the camera shake arond a lot.
The only way I can see a prequel working is one that's before Aliens, not Alien. You know, when Ripley is in cybersleep for like 50 years or something. Maybe when the colonists first come to LV-426, they get attacked by aliens but the company covers it up so they can keep all the money they make from the colony, when the attacks die down?
Quote from: Hart on May 28, 2009, 11:41:28 AM
The only way I can see a prequel working is one that's before Aliens, not Alien. You know, when Ripley is in cybersleep for like 50 years or something. Maybe when the colonists first come to LV-426, they get attacked by aliens but the company covers it up so they can keep all the money they make from the colony, when the attacks die down?
I'd be interested in seeing that.
The only way that'd work if it was set between the Jordens finding the Derelict and the marines showing up. Which is redundant anyway.
If it was to work within the continuity, it'd have to be totally isolated from the continuity.
I have a bad feeling about this.
Still, a 'prequel reboot' would be interesting.
If they do this, hopefully the Alien will get it's full biomechanical look back.
wow all I need is more newborns and half assed acting great job fox ;D /sarcassm
oh f**k, now that's just wonderful. and i bet adi will once again be hired for monster effects adn most propably use their molds from avp or avp:r, just f**king great :'( >:( :'( >:(
God damn it...
I don't know how i feel about this! But it would be interesting to see how the alien came into being and how the aliens got on the space jockey ship..................... just please use Gigers alien design.
Quote from: SM on May 28, 2009, 11:47:01 AM
The only way that'd work if it was set between the Jordens finding the Derelict and the marines showing up. Which is redundant anyway.
If it was to work within the continuity, it'd have to be totally isolated from the continuity.
No it could work when the colonists first get there. When the guy who takes Ripleys pilot licence at the start says "They've been living there for years, no aliens" or something similar, he could be lying. The Company could have covered it all up so people don't get scared of the concept of "Shake N Bake" colonies.
I reckon that's a good story right there.
Quote from: maledoro on May 28, 2009, 11:13:48 AM
Quote from: Zwecky on May 28, 2009, 07:55:47 AM
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16328
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^ This
Now with R scott on the project but it might be decent but right now I don't know how to feel about this :-[.
f**k! I hate remakes! Why not make a spin off? Remakeing alien is like remaking Star wars. It just can't work and anyone who see new trilogy admitt that.
...and it's gonna be PG-13 :)
Deep inside I'm so pissed off but seeing that I'm having a good day today, I have mixed feeling about this. 2001 better not be next.
I can actually understand Sil's frustration here. Alien WAS the origin story and it is really unnecessary for Fox to be doing this. First Robert Rodriguez gets greenlit to do his PREDATORS movie, which in my mind will undoubtly kill the Predator franchise if there are no script changes, and now ALIEN gets a re-make/reboot?
....Why bother in creating an origins story when the story has been already explained in ALIEN?
I've been noticing a fashion trend in Hollywood as of late, and quite frankly it has been pissing me off. There are too many remakes in the industry now, there are too many prequels and sequels, too many reboots. Hollywood has officially run out of ideas and are now making these so called movies for cash-cow value.
Mind you there have been a few reboots which I can remember which were actually GOOD- Rocky Balboa, RAMBO, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Terminator: Salvation, The Incredible Hulk.
Ridley Scott has already shocked the world with ALIEN, he doesn't need to prove himself again nor does he have to do this for the money.
It's official...
Hollywood and Fox have lost their minds!
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: Kaworu on May 28, 2009, 02:26:07 PM
Deep inside I'm so pissed off but seeing that I'm having a good day today, I have mixed feeling about this. 2001 better not be next.
My thoughts exactly I would rather have a sequel than a remake...but if a remake is announced of 2001...then my post will as is: "BUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!" meaning that there is no way to recreate what that movie did.
To be honest, this is probably the very end of Alien and Predator. Thank you guys for all this years... ;(
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 28, 2009, 02:30:59 PM
Quote from: Kaworu on May 28, 2009, 02:26:07 PM
Deep inside I'm so pissed off but seeing that I'm having a good day today, I have mixed feeling about this. 2001 better not be next.
My thoughts exactly I would rather have a sequel than a remake...but if a remake is announced of 2001...then my post will as is: "BUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!" meaning that there is no way to recreate what that movie did.
No Kubrick film should ever be remade.
Welcome to the club alien fans, now you know how i felt when they said they are going to reboot Predator.
Is this 100% confirmed?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!, NO!, NO!, NO!, NO!, NO, NO!!, NO!!, NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/05/27/carl-erik-rinsch-to-direct-alien-remake/
This source seems more optimistic and links to several of Carl Erik Rinsch's commercials which all are very good. My mind hasn't changed that this is a bad idea but i'm trying to focus on what good there is so i don't explode with rage...
Quote from: SM on May 28, 2009, 11:39:29 AM
We in general may not want it - but we only make up a very small percentage of punters. We can appreciate the pacing of Alien or Aliens. Short attention spans want something faster with big explosions that make the camera shake arond a lot.
But that's the problem, why did films go from good acting, pacing, story, style and overall quality for the fast pace, plot hole crap we have now, I also think its a case of the studios making the movies and not filmmakers, but all the public want to see these days are pointless remakes and reboots, the film industry is devolving and its very sad to see.
Also, I thought the mainstream public only care about vampire and zombie crap these days.
We are simply at dusk of western cinematography. Do not worry in some time in asia visionary and innovative film are going to be created.
i think it depends on the budget of this film. i hope they spend at least 75 milion to make it look realistic. i somehow new this was going to show up (seeing the new pred movie comming up) , i'm just very dissapointed with the director. i guess fox isnt taking these movies too seriosly. :-[
Well now all we have to look forward to is the end of Cinema as we know it with the inevitable remake announcements of Terminator and Star Wars, 2001: A Space Odyssey and well that's it, those are the only good ones left to be raped besides the rest of the movies from the 80s and 90s, I'm just glad that The Last Star Fighter movie is getting a sequel rather than a remake.
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Take a moment of silence everyone............
AMEN to that.
Quote from: Darkness on May 28, 2009, 08:29:37 AM
A prequel isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's really the only way they can do another Alien film.
How so? All you have to do is place it after Res, and off you go.
The concept is strong enough on its own.
no, no, no, no, no.... $#@% !!!
That's the problem. It has to be a sequel to Rez with the Ripley clone. I just don't think it would work. The best thing to do is an original story.
I still vote for a story between A3 + AR - i'm sure the Company wouldn't just give up on this organism.
if done right it could be good i just hope they don't f**k it up and change alot of things, also i hope they get giger to design the aliens and jokeys and stuff. same with the new predator movie i hope these are still in the same series and not remakes.
If the remake does suck it not like the original will die and go alway. I will always watch the original and people will still enjoy it. Even if it good then people will still watch the original.
I remember a quote from gremlin 2 : "and to night in our show Casablanca! Fixed, colored and with new, better ending!". It made me laugh back then, but nowadays its sad truth :(
If its a prequel, I'll be up for it. Although I don't see why every scifi series ever made seems to get rebooted by getting a prequel. But a remake I'm not so cool with.
They'll ruin it. Why do you think they got such a low profile director? Because no one with a brain would touch this crap.
Ridley being involved gives me a strong sense of confidence. The guys ads are fantastic and it's kinda nice to see Ridley looking back to his roots of ads. So I don't feel like it's gonna lack style and given Ridley's reputation I don't think Fox is likely to f**k him about in regards with this, especially since they went public saying they wanted him back for a new Alien.
I'll wait 'till we get some story details.
Scott is a very smart director and he won't let us down.
They need to change the character and ship names. There's no reason why a similar story structure could not take place as a sequel. They don't even have to specify when in the timeline it takes place.
One of my favourite stories in the comics, had an archaeological team find some ancient ruins with about three adult creatures waiting in there. It was simplistic, relatively effective and felt like the kind of thing which would have fitted in perfectly well to the film series.
An origins story really does not bother me that much,with Ridley involved it can't be that bad,then again.
QuoteNo it could work when the colonists first get there. When the guy who takes Ripleys pilot licence at the start says "They've been living there for years, no aliens" or something similar, he could be lying. The Company could have covered it all up so people don't get scared of the concept of "Shake N Bake" colonies.
I reckon that's a good story right there.
So Hadley's Hope is the second colony on LV-426? And the Company didn't obtain an Alien when the colonist first got there.
Hooray for retcons... ::)
So Ridley Scott is producing this with his brother while he directs Forever War? I wonder. I'll be looking more looking forward to Forever War.
Story similar to the one from destroying angels would be nice IMHO. Maybe without vaccine for alien agression.
An origin story will ultimately tarnish the original. Since prequels are ment to be watched before the original.
Alien was the perfect movie. You barely saw the alien and when you did, it scared the shit out of you. Now with a prequel story, Alien will have a lot less of an impact, why Ridley would want to be part of that is beyond me ....
my vote is just for a sequel or like stated above, a story taking place inbetween Alien 3 and Res.
Quote from: Master on May 28, 2009, 03:01:41 PM
To be honest, this is probably the very end of Alien and Predator. Thank you guys for all this years... ;(
'Thank you guys for all the years'? Uhhh, you're welcome, but the movies ain't going anywhere buddy. :-\
You're talking like an idiot.
This is Ridley's baby, why the hell would he ruin it? It's gonna be fineeeeeee, Sigourney Weaver will get in on it too, so it won't be a prequel.
It's going to be 'fini'? We can but hope. Preferably before it's greelit.
Well like you said Sigourney will want in on it, and like she said it's both her and Scott's creation, so they can't do it without her. A magnificent sequel, as always intended. A semi-reboot/sequel, it doesn't have to reference Alien: Resurrection, but it shouldn't acknowledge it either. Whatever works for them.
Quote from: Scree on May 28, 2009, 02:13:53 PM
...and it's gonna be PG-13 :)
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unless they reboot alien 3 with hicks and the gang back... f**k them f**k ALL OF THEM!!!
f**k them ESPECIALLY if they reboot Alien3.
QuoteWell like you said Sigourney will want in on it, and like she said it's both her and Scott's creation, so they can't do it without her.
It's not her and Scott's creation. It's them plus O'Bannon, Shusett, Giler, Hill, Giger. And chuck Cobb in for good measure.
QuoteA semi-reboot/sequel, it doesn't have to reference Alien: Resurrection, but it shouldn't acknowledge it either.
If Ripley is in it, then it acknowledges Resurrection by default.
What we'll have is a really slick, and visually outstanding film with a ho-hum script (Kinda like Alien Resurrection.) which will piss off all us fans, but the casual movie goer will say "it was entertaining." And thats all that Fox wants. They're probably looking at the success of Paramount's Star Trek and figuring if they bring back some old franchises as big, fluffy and retarded monster budget movies, its revenue heaven for them.
If you go to ign and go to the Movies section they have an article mentioning this tragedy. IGN don't seem that happy either about the news.
... Damn it.
Well, here's hoping something at least half decent comes of it.
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Quote from: Scree on May 28, 2009, 02:13:53 PM
...and it's gonna be PG-13 :)
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unless they reboot alien 3 with hicks and the gang back... f**k them f**k ALL OF THEM!!!
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They can make a reboot and I can only hope it will be good. If not, it's not like the original films will cease to exist, so I don't care other than the youngsters will probably never hear of the original. That's unfortunate, but no loss to me. The original movies will still be here for my pleasure, on Blu-Ray at that! @1080p, I can put on a HD projector and watch them like I'm in the theater.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on May 28, 2009, 11:43:56 PM
This is Ridley's baby, why the hell would he ruin it? It's gonna be fineeeeeee, Sigourney Weaver will get in on it too, so it won't be a prequel.
Cuz Ridley makes good movies all the time...right?
Quote from: Darkness on May 28, 2009, 07:21:07 PM
That's the problem. It has to be a sequel to Rez with the Ripley clone. I just don't think it would work. The best thing to do is an original story.
Not really. All it requires is Aliens. Ripley's story is done, and was done with 3.
Man. I don't even know where to start.
I'm not fond of a remake. At all.
I can handle an origin story because the material will be new. A direct sequel would definately be most preferred.
I don't think its going to be handled competently though. Just because Scott slaps his name on it doesn't mean its a guaranteed success. See scott/tony's Adromeda Strain that they produced.
And that Numbers TV show they produced got tired very quickly.
Quote from: Cellien on May 29, 2009, 01:09:46 AM
They can make a reboot and I can only hope it will be good. If not, it's not like the original films will cease to exist, so I don't care other than the youngsters will probably never hear of the original. That's unfortunate, but no loss to me. The original movies will still be here for my pleasure, on Blu-Ray at that! @1080p, I can put on a HD projector and watch them like I'm in the theater.
This is about the only sense I've read after 7 pages......
I still like Star wars, I still like Indie , the can do what they like, it'll never change a thing.
You obviously didn't read all 7 pages.
After all the whining and complaining let's analize this f**king reboot/sequel since it's a fact that FOX it's going to f**k us, like they did with AVP-R
Like must of you know Aliens homeplanet were described By Dr. Orona in Aliens: Outbreak now they better keep straight with that or that will f**k the continuity of the story. WICH is already f**ked.
Even if it's a prequel WTF is it going to be about? 2 and a half hour of space jokeys designing aliens or maybe guarding aliens like space keepers let's not even mention the human factor..or maybe it's going to be about WY picking up the alien signal or maybe they sent a shuttle before dispatching the nostromo.
SERIOUSLY WWWWWTTTTTTTTFFFFFFFFFF
NO ONE CARES!! just keep the continuity of the story. is it so hard to understand??
Now this is where we do our part: Corporal Hick's will use his contacts to provide us the adress of the CEO responsable for this then we sent thousands of letters for a Cease and desist. If not we proceced to kidnap someone and ask for a reward.
Who's with me
I'm actually thrilled to see this. Sure, I would rather watch a sequel. But since that won't happen I'll go along with this. As previously said, even if it sucks the originals will still be there.
Yes, but who the hell wants yet another stain to tarnish this franchise? No one.
Really don't think this is necessary. Predators isn't I suppose, but for some reason, I can sympathise with that more than this.
The only reason i'm letting "Predators" slide is because as much as it might be a reboot, it might as well be called a sequel, because Predator 2 was more or less the same damn movie as the first Predator.
Quote from: ShadowPred on May 29, 2009, 11:39:30 AM
Yes, but who the hell wants yet another stain to tarnish this franchise? No one.
I think I'll wait to pass judgement on it until I have actually seen it. Or actually know
anything about it, which we don't yet.
Movies today don't get anything right very often, when it comes to remaking or doing anything to a franchise after a long hiatus, the results are never too good. AvP is one such example...I too hope that this movie will be good, but from everything I have seen from movies lately, I completely doubt it. Unless AVATAR is so amazing that everybody is inspired to do better.
There have been plenty of good reboots or remakes, as someone mentioned above. Like The Incredible Hulk, Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Star Trek, Friday the 13th, The Hills Have Eyes.
Friday 13th and hills have eyes are one of the shittiest films i've ever seen...
I couldn't agree less. And I know that many people consider those two movies to be great remakes.
I can't speak for friday the 13th, but The Hills Have Eyes is one of the best movies that i've ever seen.
I hear the Firday the 13th remake was pretty good.
Damn, I'm somewhere between severely pissed off and painfully disappointed...I'm not surprised it's a remake/prequel (common sense dictates, plus members here have been predicting that for years), what aggravates me is that the Scott brothers are slapping their name on it...I'd always like to believe the founders of both franchises were in it for more than just a quick buck...but that sentiment seems to be removed from most film making today as it's undoubtedly obvious they are all in it for the cash (except maybe McTiernan, who makes no money comparably speaking)...
I don't know, as I've regurgitated in the Predators board, I'll repeat here; I'll wait for more information to be released before I go into full attack mode...but as it stands, I've lost a great deal of respect for Ridley...
Oh man... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KyBdPeKHg)
I'm looking forward to this.
It's like when you can't peel your eyes off an impending car crash or train wreck.
WOW NEW RIPLEY! I'm speachless.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=55913 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=55913)
So its a prequel, reboot and a remake at the same time apparently.
What the? How can it be a Prequel when they are looking for a new Ripley?
New ripley could mean the next person strong enough to launch an alien franchise.
Ripley was Sigourney Weaver in the first series. It could be any one of a group of young actors in the second.
Confirmed:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001716/news#ni0805871
So, we know. A bit more....
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on May 28, 2009, 11:43:56 PM
This is Ridley's baby, why the hell would he ruin it? It's gonna be fineeeeeee, Sigourney Weaver will get in on it too, so it won't be a prequel.
There's been no news of Weaver being involved.
Quote from: locusta on May 30, 2009, 05:20:21 AM
Confirmed:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001716/news#ni0805871
So, we know. A bit more....
Dude. I know that my comment it's absolutly off-topic but ..have you skinned the alien warrior yet?
Quote from: Griffith on May 30, 2009, 05:27:30 AM
Quote from: locusta on May 30, 2009, 05:20:21 AM
Confirmed:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001716/news#ni0805871
So, we know. A bit more....
Dude. I know that my comment it's absolutly off-topic but ..have you skinned the alien warrior yet?
I hold you on the long leash, do I? ;)
Very bussy, but let us wait, what next week will bring...
Anyway, guys. Now we really can start the wildest rumors....
So, what do you think:
Will this prequel stick to the Alien universe as we know it after Cameron (hive, queen etc.), or introduce the egg-morphing as Scott initiated it in origin?
And most of all: SHALL GIGER BE THE MAIN CREATURE DESIGNER?! (stupid question, I know...)
Scott and Cameron get along decently. Cameron invited Scott as one of the first off the set people to come visit Avatar, they were trying to get an Alien V and Alien VI going around the same time as AvP, and Scott frequently mentions that Cameron's techniques for the 3-d camera will be used in his movies in the future.
I think Scott if he (re)introduces the egg morph, will have it as an alternative to the queen.
Quote from: locusta on May 30, 2009, 05:45:27 AM
And most of all: SHALL GIGER BE THE MAIN CREATURE DESIGNER?! (stupid question, I know...)
How is that a stupid question? That's one of the most important questions.
Because Giger hates Hollywood and the likely answer is a resounding "No".
I am conflicted to how I feel about this.
Quote from: SiL on May 30, 2009, 06:50:28 AM
Because Giger hates Hollywood and the likely answer is a resounding "No".
I will wait until it's confirmed.
Giger has said that the only person he'd be so openly willing to collaborate with for films, would be him, however.
Nice one:
http://www.collider.com/2009/05/29/exclusive-tony-scott-confirms-carl-rinsch-is-directing-alien-and-its-a-prequel/
So, maybe the Scotts can be strong enough to convince Fox about their own creative abilities and havin the most freedom. I like that one alot.
We might not get Giger back, but theres a good bet we'll finally get his original creature back on-screen.
Please stop. This vision is too good to be truth and i don't want to let FOX to make me fool again ;)
If it's a Prequel then yay:
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If it is a remake.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAPOJADvnsg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAPOJADvnsg)
Quote from: Jäger" Meister666 on May 30, 2009, 04:38:38 PM
If it's a Prequel then yay
I don't see why a prequel is a fabulous idea. There's nothing which needed explaining and there won't be any danger of the Alien surviving, because we already know they remain unknown.
There might be some unpredictability, if it's limited purely to a group of humans who are stuck on a planet, but they'll be in a ship and it's now pre-destined to get destroyed.
With Scott with the project then Giger might return.
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 30, 2009, 04:51:56 PM
Quote from: Jäger" Meister666 on May 30, 2009, 04:38:38 PM
If it's a Prequel then yay
I don't see why a prequel is a fabulous idea. There's nothing which needed explaining and there won't be any danger of the Alien surviving, because we already know they remain unknown.
There might be some unpredictability, if it's limited purely to a group of humans who are stuck on a planet, but they'll be in a ship and it's now pre-destined to get destroyed.
Because if it is a prequel then I wouldn't have to worry about the integrity of the original Alien to be compromised in the form of a reboot.. Let's be real, if an Fox representative came out and said this type of shit to StarWars fans, there would be f**king mass riots.
Quote from: Jäger" Meister666 on May 30, 2009, 05:49:32 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 30, 2009, 04:51:56 PM
Quote from: Jäger" Meister666 on May 30, 2009, 04:38:38 PM
If it's a Prequel then yay
I don't see why a prequel is a fabulous idea. There's nothing which needed explaining and there won't be any danger of the Alien surviving, because we already know they remain unknown.
There might be some unpredictability, if it's limited purely to a group of humans who are stuck on a planet, but they'll be in a ship and it's now pre-destined to get destroyed.
Because if it is a prequel then I wouldn't have to worry about the integrity of the original Alien to be compromised in the form of a reboot.. Let's be real, if an Fox representative came out and said this type of shit to StarWars fans, there would be f**king mass riots.
That really didn't stop them from doing what they did in AvP did it?
Quote from: Jäger" Meister666 on May 30, 2009, 05:49:32 PM
Because if it is a prequel then I wouldn't have to worry about the integrity of the original Alien to be compromised in the form of a reboot.. Let's be real, if an Fox representative came out and said this type of shit to StarWars fans, there would be f**king mass riots.
The '
Star Wars' franchise
was fairly screwed around with in the recent prequels, though. :)
I should also point out here that the guy said in an interview that any furutre film in this series would have to completely redesign the creature. I ebelive that he referred to going "back to the drawing board" in one article.
However, I would say that, having now looked over this director's adverts, he has a great style. That's only a part of the equation, of course. Still, they did interesting stuff.
Prequel is mo betta than a remake. You don't have to destroy the ship, there are many options to what could happen. The universe is infinite, an alien could be stowed away on a spacecraft humanity will never rediscover, the characters could encounter it on planet, it could even happen within the original derelict.
Space solves lots of the problems that a prequel would have.
A fox representative has nothing at all to do with SW, since that franchise is creator owned. Lucas could turn all of his characters into dancing teddy bears if he wanted, and fox couldn't say anything other than, "uuuhhhh George...we think thats a bad idea."
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 30, 2009, 08:10:25 PM
Prequel is mo betta than a remake. You don't have to destroy the ship, there are many options to what could happen. The universe is infinite, an alien could be stowed away on a spacecraft humanity will never rediscover, the characters could encounter it on planet, it could even happen within the original derelict.
They've already said that it'll use the same formula of one creature on a ship. The story has a pre-destined conclusion. Even if it does somehow 'win', there's no way it's going to get to a centre of mass population, meaning it's impossible to give the story any epic stakes.
That's not to say there's anything wrong with purely pitting the creature against a crew, but it won't be able to reach the same sort of heights as the others managed to.
Quote from: Jäger" Meister666 on May 30, 2009, 04:38:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAPOJADvnsg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAPOJADvnsg)
this is my reaction
Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 30, 2009, 08:14:05 PM
Quote from: Kimarhi on May 30, 2009, 08:10:25 PM
Prequel is mo betta than a remake. You don't have to destroy the ship, there are many options to what could happen. The universe is infinite, an alien could be stowed away on a spacecraft humanity will never rediscover, the characters could encounter it on planet, it could even happen within the original derelict.
They've already said that it'll use the same formula of one creature on a ship. The story has a pre-destined conclusion. Even if it does somehow 'win', there's no way it's going to get to a centre of mass population, meaning it's impossible to give the story any epic stakes.
That's not to say there's anything wrong with purely pitting the creature against a crew, but it won't be able to reach the same sort of heights as the others managed to.
Any good storyteller is only limted by his own self imposed parameters. We don't know how epic it could be. In Alien the threat to the crew was the Alien. The threat to everybody else was WY. Its much the same for the rest of the series.
If i'm writing this, I'm not really looking for a reason to expand on the original series as much as I'm looking to start a new group of movies within the same series.
There is a 57 year gap between Alien/Aliens, and a two hundred year gap between Alien 3 and Alien Res where the alien could've been a threat to population centers on the outskirts of space.
QuoteThe 'Star Wars' franchise was fairly screwed around with in the recent prequels, though.
How?
Quote from: SM on May 30, 2009, 10:17:16 PM
QuoteThe 'Star Wars' franchise was fairly screwed around with in the recent prequels, though.
How?
A lot of Star Wars fans hate them, and you know that.
That wasn't the point. How were the franchise screwed around with when the guy who invented was doing exactly what he wanted?
And with the massive box office, generally positive reviews from critics (all over 60% at Rotten Tomatoes) and fans (lowest is 6.4 on IMDB for Phantom Menace) - a LOT fans liked the prequels as well.
Wow , first Predators reboot and now Aliens remake / prequel. Great news ... in my opinion neither will empress us , I think most people loved the classic series we've craved for a new film for so long. These two films will crush both series and end them there. Why? Other then the films likely being poorly done , Alien has no were to go. It started and went into the future ... no sequels , to good for a remake and fans will hate a reboot ... only one place left ... prequel. Once this is done no more alien movies ever ... perhaps a beloved and mainly hated AVP3 film. As for Predators ... the 1st movie is a famous , well made , heroic , classic like film. The series however ... is not. Aliens was great and had four movies ... Predator had two and neither is as well know to a degree that alien is , although Predator is fairly well known. So with the shifty story lines not fit for a sequel and to good for a remake ... and to costly for a prequel ... all that's left is a reboot of one or two films. I have faith this will be good and have some alien or space jockey origins ... lets hope though ... though.
Quote from: SM on May 30, 2009, 10:17:16 PM
QuoteThe 'Star Wars' franchise was fairly screwed around with in the recent prequels, though.
How?
Turning the Force into 'midichlorians', shoe-horning unnecessary cameos, Darth Vader making C3-PO, Anakin's love's mysterious inability to age, etcetera...
It was all in the realms of possibility, but it was obviously being done for the casual 'that looks cool' factor, rather than a genuine need to tell a compelling story. A lot of the fans felt the source material were being screwed around with, because it was. It doesn't matter who's responsible for doing it.
And yet, given the reception of critics, fans and box office, a majority of fans didn't think it was being screwed around with. At least not to the extent that a loud and obnoxious minority want us to believe.
I was a big fan of the originals since the 80s, but I loved the Phantom Menace. Movie's great. Memories of childhood movies cloud ones mind, it will. Much hate I sense...