I've been thinking about this for a while. Do you think the price you pay for a service should determine the value of your life on that service?
Edit: f**k! Can someone move this since I post this in the wrong fourm by mistake!
Example?
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Quote from: maledoro on Dec 18, 2008, 12:14:54 PM
Example?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/maledoro/Elves/huh.gif
That all operations and treatment should be free.... you should never have to pay for anything that could save your life.... when it comes to treament, why should we pay for operations to save our life??? and so on blah blah all that crap i think ?
::)
Still tho.....
Gotta love free medical care ;D
Quote from: x-M-x on Dec 18, 2008, 03:36:53 PM
Quote from: maledoro on Dec 18, 2008, 12:14:54 PM
Example?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/maledoro/Elves/huh.gif
That all operations and treatment should be free.... you should never have to pay for anything that could save your life.... when it comes to treament, why should we pay for operations to save our life??? and so on blah blah all that crap i think ?
::)
Still tho.....
What about drug abusers? Or smokers? Or other people who do other life threatening, retarded stuff? Should a smoker be given free medical treatment to save them from lung cancer? Should an alcoholic be given free medical treatment to replace a diseased liver?
I don't think they should.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 18, 2008, 05:38:38 PM
Quote from: x-M-x on Dec 18, 2008, 03:36:53 PM
Quote from: maledoro on Dec 18, 2008, 12:14:54 PM
Example?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/maledoro/Elves/huh.gif
That all operations and treatment should be free.... you should never have to pay for anything that could save your life.... when it comes to treament, why should we pay for operations to save our life??? and so on blah blah all that crap i think ?
::)
Still tho.....
What about drug abusers? Or smokers? Or other people who do other life threatening, retarded stuff? Should a smoker be given free medical treatment to save them from lung cancer? Should an alcoholic be given free medical treatment to replace a diseased liver?
I don't think they should.
I get what you mean and you're right in a way, but since I'm a smoker i
have to disagree. ;D
oh yes... smokers and drug users... either pay for the treament or just simply die....
there own damn fault...
but a clean and healthy person who all of a sudden get's cancer? then should be free for treament
dont you agree??
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 18, 2008, 05:38:38 PM
What about drug abusers? Or smokers? Or other people who do other life threatening, retarded stuff? Should a smoker be given free medical treatment to save them from lung cancer? Should an alcoholic be given free medical treatment to replace a diseased liver?
I don't think they should.
What about them?
They're still human beings, and they are still entitled to proper health care. Just b/c they made a bad decision doesn't make them any less worthy of treatment.
Back with your other account for one day and you've already put up 2 new threads?
Can't you go boost your post count on some other forum and spare us?
Quote from: x-M-x on Dec 18, 2008, 03:36:53 PM
That all operations and treatment should be free.... you should never have to pay for anything that could save your life....
Yes.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 18, 2008, 05:38:38 PM
What about drug abusers? Or smokers? Or other people who do other life threatening, retarded stuff? Should a smoker be given free medical treatment to save them from lung cancer? Should an alcoholic be given free medical treatment to replace a diseased liver?
Should those people receive treatments to ween them of their addictions? Yes. If doctors were treating people to get them off of heroin, it would be safer to give them medical grade heroin than to trust the guy on the corner. If there was a charge, it would be far cheaper than on the street. Not to mention that the patient isn't going to be a repeat customer as his dosage is going to be cut down each time he visits the doctor.
Quote from: maledoro on Dec 18, 2008, 12:14:54 PM
Example?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v338/maledoro/Elves/huh.gif
Sorry I made this topic before I went to school and I did not had the time to post anything. I think Money should determine your value of life because you earned it.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 18, 2008, 06:36:21 PM
Back with your other account for one day and you've already put up 2 new threads?
Can't you go boost your post count on some other forum and spare us?
Are you talking to me?
No, money should never determine the value of human life. ¡Viva la medicina socializada!
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 18, 2008, 08:20:49 PM
Sorry I made this topic before I went to school and I did not had the time to post anything. I think Money should determine your value of life because you earned it.
Money is only cheap plastic/paper/metal.
I do think it should be equal but, at the same time people you have work hard all their life to earn good mney deserve more money than people that haven't bothered to do a lot.
You have people born into money, celebrities, sports stars, and a lucky few entrepreneurs. Not many of the people who control a great deal of the wealth actually worked very hard to get it (not to say that there aren't some who do). The hardest working people don't make a lot of money.
Money isn't even a good indicator of your importance to society. A teacher is much more important than a baseball player, and certainly works harder for their money, yet makes a fraction of what the sports star makes.
Is a construction worker raising a family, less valuable than a young bachelor CFO?
There should never be a reason why someone dies of a preventable/curable ailment because they don't have the money.
There is a great deal more to life than money.
Quote from: gameoverman on Dec 18, 2008, 09:05:28 PM
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 18, 2008, 08:20:49 PM
Sorry I made this topic before I went to school and I did not had the time to post anything. I think Money should determine your value of life because you earned it.
Money is only cheap plastic/paper/metal.
Look at the currency in Zimbabwe. Like 100,000 of their currency is roughly 8 of American dollars. None of it makes sense to me lol.
Thats what happens when you just print as much money as possible and don't have really anything to back it with.
Well, just saying, money itself is worthless. True value comes from the infinite well of the human mind.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 18, 2008, 08:20:49 PM
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 18, 2008, 06:36:21 PM
Back with your other account for one day and you've already put up 2 new threads?
Can't you go boost your post count on some other forum and spare us?
Are you talking to me?
He was talking to someone else; they got their post deleted.
Quote from: Ratchetcomand on Dec 18, 2008, 09:07:07 PM
I do think it should be equal but, at the same time people you have work hard all their life to earn good mney deserve more money than people that haven't bothered to do a lot.
What about those who inherited money but did nothing to earn it, and those who work like horses everyday and barely get by on their earnings?
NVM about my above post.
Money can't buy happiness? Yeah right. In America it can. It can buy you a waverunner.
Have you ever seen a sad person on a waverunner?
-Daniel Tosh.
Money isn't everything. It can make you happy yes, but only in the short-term IMO.
^^
Anybody who tells you money is the root of all evil doesn't f**king have any. ~
Jim YoungThat line is obviously immensely arrogant...I'm throwing it out there just for shits and giggles... ;)
Quote from: Eidotemit on Dec 18, 2008, 09:14:54 PM
There should never be a reason why someone dies of a preventable/curable ailment because they don't have the money.
There is a great deal more to life than money.
I agree with this wholeheartedly, I really do...however I would like to add that I feel that rapists, child molesters, and murderers should not be entitled...sounds cruel but they forfeit their rights and liberties as humans when they neglected the rights and liberties of their victims...of course this opens up the can of worms regarding wrongly convicted people, for which I have no practical answer for [another debate entirely]...meh, sue me... :-\
Well today people don't use money they use mostly credit. Governments themselves have endless credit yet don't have to take on any of the risk, they pass that on to the taxpayer. Then when a recession comes along they bailout those responsible for going into debt, and devalue all the assets of the people who worked hard all their life for a measly retirement fund. Then for good measure, they tax them even harder.
Um, without money you wouldn't have credit. Credit is money.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Feb 12, 2009, 04:17:42 AM
Um, without money you wouldn't have credit. Credit is money.
If you're holding money that you earned, it's not credit.
You repay credit with money.
Or more credit.
Or you live completely within your means which is hard for many people. Credit makes the world go 'round.
Problem is, that banks issue credit and they lend it out with very high loans to capital ratios. So if the bank fails, then everyone goes to withdraw their money, everything goes to hell. The economy hangs by a thread on these banks.
In the past, governments have actually made laws forbidding people to withdraw their money. :D
It's a huge scam, really.
In practice Kimarhi can live on his own without money or a house or even clothes.
We should start using funny pictures as currency.
The funnier the picture, the more it's worth.
Lolcats are a cent each.
Ceiling cat is worth ten cents at least.
One rolcat = 10,000 lolcats. Hang on - no it's it's 100,000 now (http://rolcats.com/)
Quote from: SM on Feb 13, 2009, 05:54:22 AM
One rolcat = 10,000 lolcats. Hang on - no it's it's 100,000 now (http://rolcats.com/)
This is true.
I'm laughing like a motherf**ker.
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Man, petrol's up to two rolcats, one failblog post and six "i can haz cheezburgers"! Ripoooff!
Psh, it's meaningless if I can't understand it :(
You dare defy mother russia?
I'm a Cossack at heart.