Hey guys more rumors back for predator 3 and John Cena
QuoteWrestling star John Cena ("The Marine"), on the cusp of becoming quite the movie star, is already being touted as the next Schwarzenegger, so it's probably no surprise that the Internet has him pegged to replace the Oak in a "Predator 3". But are they just that – rumours?
Though Cena says nobody has called him directly to offer him the role in any new "Predator" film, he'd jump at the chance to do it, he says.
"You know what, everybody's been telling me that. I wish somebody from the movie would actually call me about that", he laughs. "I haven't heard anything yet, but, man, that'd be something fun to do."
If so, Cena says he's not afraid at all of following in Arnie's footsteps, in fact "I actually welcome it. I'm right on side with the media. If it's not gonna be me, then it's gotta be somebody, right? I grew up on those movies. They were fun to watch and they honestly and legitimately gave, not only me, but a lot of people heroes, and in retrospect, those movies have become cult classics where the people who like them are drawn towards what they are, and if not, they get parodied, they get made fun of. But really, because of this, they are pieces of history that can't be ignored. We need somebody, I'm right there with the media. I'd love to give it my best shot: I'm not gonna say that I'm going to be that guy, but I'm gonna try my damndest to take that role. "
The Full interview will be printed in the Feb. issue of "Australian Ironman Magazine".
What do u think about Cena ?
I think that going 2 sux i prefer The Rock if FOX its lookin a guy like Arnie
God I hate films with wrestlers in them, they can't act to the slightest. I mean, the Rock isn't too bad, but Doom still sucked, as did See no Evil, and The Marine (John Cena)
To quote what I said on the site: Personally, I'm not interested in these wannabe actors. Get someone who can really act.
I still say they get Dolph Lundgren to do this.
Why must they always go for wrestlers? >:( Hell, Keanu Reeves would be better than some of these wrestler-actors...
At least he confirmed it was just a rumour.
John Cena sucks in the ring, and he sucks as an actor.
QuotePersonally, I'm not interested in these wannabe actors. Get someone who can really act.
Arnie couldn't act. ;D
I was pro the idea, but after seeing clips of The Marine - no way. He is just to appalling.
Arnold didn't do a bad job in Predator. I thought he was great.
Then again, it helped him from an acting standpoint to have a man of equal stature and stage presence to act off of like Carl Weathers.
MY MEN WERE IN THAT CHOPPER WHEN THEY DISSAPPEARED.
HE DIDN'T DISSAPPEAR, HE WAS SKINNED ALIVE!
One of the best scenes in Predator.
It is a good scene, and Arnie does pull it off, but he can't really act, he's on screen for the way he looks.
I thought Arnie did a great job with Pred. But the thought of Cena in Pred 3 is just rediculous.
Don't get me wrong, he did a great job, but he isn't a good actor.
I don't want john cena to play in predator 3 cuz I hate wrestlers and wrestling is fake and lame...if they use john cena then predator 3 will be lame!!!
Yeah, no wrestler please! Except The Rock maybe ;)
Id rather have John Cena for Predator 3 instead of the Rock :-X
I'd rather have the Rock before John Cena.
The Rock was decent in Walking Tall, and the Rundown was just a fun old movie.
It's just to me that the Rock seems to be the same guy in every movie he is in, just like Ben Stiller.
I'd rather have Christian Bale for Predator 3, why, because well, Christian Bale is the shit.
Or Eric Bana, Tom Jane.
how about an actor like Vin Diesel or somebody with an action movie background, why do they always have to use f#####g wrestlers all the time, i hate wrestling >:(
Jessie Ventura was a wrestler, and he kicked ass as Blaine.
What about a bodybuilders like Jay Cutler or Ronnie Coleman, bring back the bodybuilders ;D ;D
Jay Cutler
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Ronie Coleman
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Steroids are bad. mmmkay?
Personally, I'd like Triple H to get into more movies, supposedly he will play King Conan if the Conan the barbarian series ever wants a new movie, and he played Jacko Grimwood in Blade Trinity:
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They dont use steroids, the bottom dude is a cop.
You have to be Naive to believe they don't use steroids.
And wrestlers dont?
look at Ronnie Coleman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_quejmm7JAA&mode=related&search=
Please tell me where and when I said wrestlers didn't use steroids. True, some of them do, but not all of them.
Your whole vendetta against wrestling is ridiculous.
Wow, this got REALLY off topic...
If they do make a Predator 3, I think it'd be impossible to match Arnie in the first one; he just worked for that movie. In the end, the person need to have good acting skills and a few looks to back them up. They don't need to be some extreme macho-guy to play the part.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 29, 2006, 03:21:56 AM
Please tell me where and when I said wrestlers didn't use steroids. True, some of them do, but not all of them.
Your whole vendetta against wrestling is ridiculous.
I dont have a vendetta, i am one of the few people who actually liked triple H in Blade trinity.
I like wrestlers but i hate the fact that its fake is all.
http://fire-wwe.skyblog.com/pics/438567684.jpg
I thought that John Cena was going to be in the remake, but then i heard it was not a remake but a spin-off were Cena plays Dutches son ??? and the same stuff happens to him.
first of all christian bale is the shit, and second why would oyu need to typecast the main character as a huge muscular guy like a body builder just because arnie was. wrestler's in my mind cant act real well especially in fight scens where all they do is wrestling moves, we all know that. they need to get someone a little less known who can be a badass and not have to bore us with bad acting, someone like thomas jane or sumpin.
the only wrestler who should do a movie is triple h as thor, period
I go for Thomas Jane, I think he could do it ;D he did good in the Punisher.
Any one else agree ?
I don't hate wrestlers in movies.
I just cannot stand watching them in staring roles when they have no formal acting training.
Ventura was fine in P1, partly because he was a character actor in that role.
If any one has seen Jet Lee's Fearless, they will recognize Nathan Jones who was also in the movie Troy. Giant in the begging who gets stabbed in the Neck by Achilles. This guy would be great in c creature costume like a Predator.
The guy getting his Role in Fearless had very little to do with any wrestling experience.
He got both his roles because he is 6'10" and 350 pounds of muscle. Steroids are irrelevant. Very few people on earth are that big. The guy is almost as tall as Shaq, and he is built like Lou Ferrigno.
But as much as his physical credentials make him a good character actor for the role of 7 foot monster with a bodybuiler physique, his acting skill has a lot to be desired, so it make little sense to have him as a staring character.
On a side note: Muscle is muscle, the same fibrous strands of protein tissue, regardless of what is helping cause its growth. They may have health issues because of it, but that is their business. If you do some research you will find there is a clear distinction between steroid use and abuse. They are illegal in the USA, but a lot of guys still get a hold of them.
If you spend your time researching this you will find out some things no one would originally think. Stuff like: most of the side effects are temporary, testicular atrophy is temporary and can be reversed after a cycle (specific planned period to be on) is over with fertility drugs like clomiphene citrate. Injections are far safer than orals. Oral steroids are the most harmful because they have been made toxic to avoid being broken down by your liver etc... That is just the tip of the iceberg. You can find out a lot of stuff by doing some research. Check out the steroid board over at bodybuilding.com's message board is a place to start. Read all the stickys, then do some google'ing.
If you spend about 100+ hours reading about them, you will find out two things; 1). Steroids are not as harmful as you would think, if the user knows what they are doing and has regular blood work done by a physician to monitor for the beginning signs of serious side effect, and 2). The risks are still too high versus benefit unless you are making a living based off of the presence of your physique, such as a Pro Wrester r bodybuilder.
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 28, 2006, 10:11:47 PM
how about an actor like Vin Diesel or somebody with an action movie background, why do they always have to use f#####g wrestlers all the time, i hate wrestling >:(
God know, he is such a bad actor.
I generally dislike wrestlers in movies, because generally they're not good actors.
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 16, 2007, 03:16:28 PM
Quote from: Mr. Weyland on Dec 28, 2006, 10:11:47 PM
how about an actor like Vin Diesel or somebody with an action movie background, why do they always have to use f#####g wrestlers all the time, i hate wrestling >:(
God know, he is such a bad actor.
I generally dislike wrestlers in movies, because generally they're not good actors.
Another Problem with a guy like Vin is that his price tag would be half the budget.
So spent 20+ mill on a bad actor? Sorry. I think his presence would be to distracting.
There are actors out there, legitimate actors with formal acting training who have big muscles, maybe not arnold big, but still enough to look powerful. They are not that hard to find, in fact the problem that those guys run into is that there are very few roles out there for a guy who is 6'4" 240 pounds and only 6% bodyfat.
I knew a few guys this big in the Army, in Iraq hitting the gym is a good way to pass the time. There are some jacked looking soldiers in our military, so it would make sense to have a guy with good build in an action role. Unfortunately Hollywood likes to go with famous faces, so they pic wrestlers of legitamate actors who both physicallly fit the bill.
In all fairness there are some guys who have done both wrestling, and have had formal acting training. I can think of one guy who is 7 foot, 330 pounds with 6% bodyfat, has done wrestling in Australia, but has also been in a formal acting school, and has done stage theatre. Not they typical resume for a Pro Wrestler, but then again, the guy is a Mensa memeber (IQ > 140). http://www.conanstevens.com/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,32/?g2_itemId=81
Then again, I think the best role for him in an AVP movie would be in the Predator costume.
I agree. Always the famous faces, and the majority of famous faces for that role are crap. They could even do what they did in 300, got good actors, then built em up.
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 16, 2007, 03:16:28 PM
I generally dislike wrestlers in movies, because generally they're not good actors.
It's because the show they "train" on is so bad themselves.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 16, 2007, 09:05:09 PM
Quote from: The Ultimate Predator on Jan 16, 2007, 03:16:28 PM
I generally dislike wrestlers in movies, because generally they're not good actors.
It's because the show they "train" on is so bad themselves.
Haha, thats true, WWF, god thats crap.
I think they should take the route they used for P2 with Danny Glover. A Predator movie's protagonist doesn't have to be jacked up like Arnold and few bodybuilders have the sort of charisma to match Arnold, so there's really no point in trying to emulate that.
Other than police experience in a dangerous part of 1997 LA, Glover was an average joe, like you and me. My choice for P3 would be Clive Owen. In Children of Men, he, as a normal man caught in extraordinary circumstances, handled the action great. I would love for the same kind of feeling to be brought to P3.
Cool King Arthur vs. Predator ;D
For those of you who dont know who Clive Owen is he is this dude ;D
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This idea is similar to using Thomas Jane in Predator 3.
No, no, no, no ,no !!!
Unfortunately no action star has taken over from sly and arnie, though many have tried and failed (the rock, vin etc) & action films have changed since the emergence of CGI. You'd need a star with enough clout to justify the budget (and a top director) you just couldn't make the film now on the same budget as 1 and 2. If it does get made it will be interesting to see if they go the arnie route or the T1000 (robert patrick) route ??
My dream would be to see sly, arnie, dolph, van damme and kurt russell as a veteran marine outfit sent in to save the day or team up with one to fight an even deadlier adversary ! i'm old skool but that would rock !!
In reality, it's a difficult one to call, depends how they do the film ??
Wow a guy with the same dream film as me :o
If the Rock is a good actor, he's at least a terrible judge of material. The only decent role I've seen him in is the cameo role of the Scorpion King in The Mummy Returns. The follow-up was what my dad calls WWF in the sand. I disliked that one. I hated Doom. The Rundown was assaulting to the nerves in all media. I can't take him seriously as a militant leader in any form. Maybe put The Rock inside the Predator suit. Other than that, no thanks.
Only problem with putting the Rock in the Pred costume; he is too short for that. His build is about right, but there are 7 footers who are built like that too.
I agree that a lead actor has to ultimately be a good actor.
There are some well built actors who seem hardened and masculine and would be great for character actors in a military unit.
In Iraq if you were not on patrol or some mission, or not prepping for the next one, or eating etc... You had little better to do than hit the gym. Killed boredom, and the goal setting helped keep you sane. Something to look forward to each day.
There were a lot of hobby bodybuilders in the Military when I was in Iraq, some very jacked dudes too. I am talking 6'4" 250 pounds and ripped. Some even bigger than that. So their place in an action role is fine with me, and does not seem unrealistic, unless they are all built like that.
I was not quite as big as that myself but still awsome shape when I was active, I am 5'8" and was about 215 and lean at my best, but I would go to the gym, walk in and see some old as dirt NCO who is bench pressing 500+ pounds for 12 reps.
If they want a military or ex-military hero, and they want him to be huge and ripped that is fine with me because there are some real life heroes, I have personally met who are jacked. Not unrealistic at all. But they have got to be able to act.
There are some unknown actors, legitimate schooled actors, who are very built, not quite built like Arnold, but there are plenty out there who are close AND can act.
The problem is studios would rather cast a Pro Wrestler in a "muscular guy role" than an actor who bodybuilds as a hobby.
It is not like spending 2 hours in a gym on a regular basis is going to make you stupid, but if you have zero acting schooling, than you will not be credible to the audience.
I do not think your average "joe shmoe" civilian character who rises to be a hero should be powerfully built man. Most folks are not built like that, and other than a military lifestyle, no lifestyle of that than bodybuilder or pro athlete ever comes close to actively encouraging people to be in the gym.
Come come now. Enough wrestling bashing.
There's nothing wrong with wrestling. It isn't fake, it's scripted, and no, most wrestlers aren't SCREEN ACTORS, but they are still actors none the less.
John Cena = big flaming bag of poop.
I'm not discrediting Wrestlers. I'm just discrediting my faith in Dwayn Johnson. I've never seen him in a role where I root for him. He was glorified scenery in The Mummy Returns and a bad bit of CGI at the end.
I've never been drawn to Pro Wrestling, so I can neither vouch for nor against anyone else in the industry.
I didn't mind Walking Tall.
But for me and a lot of other people, he is still "The Rock".
They'll have to bring in Chuck Norris. He'll give the Preds a run for their money. And a roundhouse kick to the face. ;D
Dwayne Johnson gets better in every movie he is in. Cena is a no go.
Clive Owen would be cool, Christian Bale would be cool, Luke Wilson would be interesting. That guy Adrien Brody would be an interesting choice. Keanu Reeves could do it.
The key is to keep the movie dark and tense, which needs a good actor. Predator movies are not pure action, and the predator hunts us for our brains, not our bodies.
I saw start with a good lead actor and build from there.
For all I care the pred could be hunting a bunch of mountain climbing yuppies in a California forest fire.
The bottom line is, there is no point trying a repeat of P1.
I DONT WANT WRESTLERS IN A GODDAM FILM OR ELSE ID BE CALLING FOR HIM TO STEEL CHAIR THE PRED. Difference between Cena and Arnie is that Arnie could act and by 1986/7 he was very experienced, even if his accent was cheesy we still loved him. From what I've seen from Cena and The Rock is pretty pathetic, but The Rock did raise my hopes a little as he has gotten better, in Doom he said "f**k" every 2 lines of speech, but he did do the part quite well. :)
I was honestly surprised at how good he was in Doom.
I actually enjoy Doom, though I didn't like how it was the 23 chromosome thing rather then the opening of the gates of hell on mars. still Dwayne did alright, face it in wrestling you have to know to act to have some charisma.