I thought it might be nice to have a thread to throw up ideas regarding the RPG in developement. I think it'll be interesting, imagine commanding your own squad/ship of Marines. And the prospect of running an Alien hive.
Kinda like Extinction?
No, it's have to be different. One player runs the whole show. Think of them like clans.
So, it is first-person?
RPGs tend to be 3rd person. I take it you don't know much about them?
Fraid not.
I'm actually having trouble imagining an Alien RPG. I've just never been able to think of these two together.
Quote from: DB on Dec 14, 2006, 06:01:39 PM
I'm actually having trouble imagining an Alien RPG. I've just never been able to think of these two together.
Same as me. I wouldn't have thought they'd choose this genre.
I think it can be done pretty well. I mean, it'll be down the game mechanics and all but it is possible. It's a vast galaxy out there, many different planets, many different aliens - and hosts for that matter. It's gonna be such a vast game.
It sounds bloody cool.
Quote from: Darkness on Dec 17, 2006, 02:42:06 PM
Quote from: DB on Dec 14, 2006, 06:01:39 PM
I'm actually having trouble imagining an Alien RPG. I've just never been able to think of these two together.
Same as me. I wouldn't have thought they'd choose this genre.
I cant either
RPG's usually have you levelling up and whatnot. Might be some nice weapons and ships to get all souped up.
in know how they all work and stuff, but how do you do an alien RPG itll be like THE ELDER SCROLLS IV OBLIVION in space ;D
I'm actually looking forward to this and think an aliens rpg could be very fun to play if it is done right. I'm hoping that it will be a fps/rpg hybrid similar to the likes of vampire the masquarade bloodlines, system shock or deus ex.
Set it on a large colony where your character's job defines his/her's skills (eg a doctor would excel in first aid, a member of the security force would excel in using weapons). Add some party npcs that follow your character around and base the story around the fall of the colony: at the beginning of the game, things are relatively normal as you form your party and interact with other npcs in the colony but as the game progresses, the humans numbers starts diminishing, the aliens numbers starts growing, the humans start losing control of the colony and tensions within your group start to rise as the surviving humans start fighting each other because the hope of surviving through the infestation begins to diminish (think "day of the dead").
Skills based on diplomacy and conversation may be able to ease in-party arguments and allow you to negotiate and reason with other humans whereas more practical skills will help you survive encounters with aliens or create better weaponry and equipment (think back to alien when the constructed their own crude motion trackers and flame throwers).
Anyway, thats just a few ideas that I think might make an aliens rpg work.
It would be interesting to have another group of humans who don't agree with you as well. Some human conflict.
What about being able to play as Aliens and Humans?
I really don't think an rpg would capture the feel of playing as an alien as well as an fps would. One of the most important elements in an rpg is the character interaction, and it would be difficult to create a group of memorable characters for an alien to interact with without it attacking them. If they were building an mmorpg then I would expect aliens to be playable (as there is less of an emphasis on AI character interaction) but as a single player rpg, I can't see it working that well (and obsidian seems to favour making single player rpgs).
I dont think it would be too awkward, its been well established (i think) that the Aliens have a type of telekinetic from of communication, so essentially, if you are playing as an Alien, you would essentially have conversation options, with other aliens and such. Of course there wouldnt be like secret quests and stuff. But basically you could just take orders from the queen, which could involve taking other aliens and basically killing a load of humans and getting hosts and stuff...one think i would love to see would be an Aliens stealth mission where your on your own and have to avoid detection, and then end up taking like a superior member of the Marines as a host. or even have like two hives in the same area, and you have the choice to either negotiate with them to wipe out the human presence, or just attack them
Maybe you play first as a human. And if you got impregnated by a face-hugger you play the game as your 'child'.
hey do u guys think that alien lifecylce will be involved?
Quote from: gridalien17 on Apr 03, 2007, 07:08:48 PM
hey do u guys think that alien lifecylce will be involved?
I hope so, it would be fun ;D
Yeah Ilike the idea about having the alien life cycle involved so you could keep track on what stage of the alien evolution your up to or going to be.
but there should be level ups and stuff because in RPG you usely have levels and level ups.i thought for every level up you get like skill points to add on to attack like 5 points to add on to your skills like for exaple: ALIENS
Claw :
Tail :
crawl :
Climb :
Head :
Bite.
Sight :
so do you like my idea?this one i made up on the spot for alien.
i was also thinking that you start in a egg(for alien)then come out a facehugger but you have to make you way to 1 of the 3 rooms. 1 contains a predator, 1 contains a dog and 1 contains a marine and facehug 1 of the3 things to become either an alien drone, a predalien or a dogalien runner.
Like the idea?
I always saw this as more of a survival/horror game in a Resident Evil kinda way. But then I guess it wold be called that. I hope that they go big, like Mass Effect.
Marines should get better weapons
upgraded versions of the weapons thet have now, like the 'Smart gun plus' or something.
MAN i wish in Marine it could be more scary
ALEINS should have more fighting skills
like
high jump
acid
yeah raymond i know you (RAYMOND CAI)
aliens should be able to spit acid and are there going to be hybrids for NOT??????
I think the RPG will be based on maintaining a hive or squad/army of some sort cause i dont picture leveling up in a alien game of anysort so i think it would be like simcity in a really wierd way or some thing on main person that is head hanchoe things like that
i realy hope that all three species would be involved. Space Jokies would also be good to add in the game. Hopefuly that it wont be marine only game. And i realy hope that i will be on PC cuz i dont want to buy a console extra just for that game. :)
Yeah being a jockey or seeing a live 1 would be fun
So the game is supposed to be like KOTOR?
I think this game might be short since aliens can't be everywhere.unlees there is some jockey plot like them using there bio-engineer xenomorphs.To destroy earth and the yautja homeplanet.
Anyhow i would say this should be a fun game
Quote from: Darkfire on Aug 06, 2007, 10:36:24 PM
So the game is supposed to be like KOTOR?
I think this game might be short since aliens can't be everywhere.unlees there is some jockey plot like them using there bio-engineer xenomorphs.To destroy earth and the yautja homeplanet.
Hopefully the game will be more like Vampire the masquarade bloodlines (I love kotor but I think the gameplay from VTMB suits the aliens universe more, although I wouldn't mind having a party following the PC around).
I wouldn't really worry about how widescale the aliens infestation is, as there have been a number of successful RPGs that didn't take you across the solar system (VTMB was about as long as KOTOR and it took place in a single city, each of the baldur's gate games were much longer than KOTOR and they both took place in small regions of the fictional universe they're based in)
well i know that its just LV-426 handlys hope is not huge it is actually prety small according to AVP 1 game.If that was the same complex just redone and besides you can't fight aliens forever it does not take long to find a queen unless it's in someone.
well i don't care as long as the alien newborn is not in it i though that was THE dumbest alien idea ever
Heh,heh, We all know that the Aliens are gonna kick SERIOUS ASS!!!
Hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss......in space, no one can hear you scream.....
Quote from: Darkfire on Aug 09, 2007, 08:29:56 PM
well i know that its just LV-426 handlys hope is not huge it is actually prety small according to AVP 1 game.If that was the same complex just redone and besides you can't fight aliens forever it does not take long to find a queen unless it's in someone.
well i don't care as long as the alien newborn is not in it i though that was THE dumbest alien idea ever
I agree with the queen idea. When you see Aliens, a queen is sure to be around somewhere.
The ability to start new hives would be cool. Egg morphing anyone?
Ok, one question. Do we know if we are gonna get to play as the Aliens?
Quote from: Alien Warrior on Aug 15, 2007, 11:55:49 AM
Ok, one question. Do we know if we are gonna get to play as the Aliens?
To my knowledge, not much has been announced yet so no one knows who/what you'll be able to play. I'm gonna have to go against the crowd and say that I don't want to play as an alien in the RPG (but in the fps game I definately do). I just don't see how things such as dialogue trees or npcs could be handled effectively from an alien's perspective and I would rather that obsidian concentrate on creating a solid RPG told from one perspective than try to throw everything in and not be able to finish it ([rant]still annoyed they didn't finish kotor 2 [/rant]).
Quote from: Alien Warrior on Aug 15, 2007, 11:55:49 AM
Ok, one question. Do we know if we are gonna get to play as the Aliens?
Would be nice but probably not. As the poster above me said, there wouldn't really be much in the way of dialog. As a Marine, you can specialize in certain areas and have AI controlled squad mates.
Length would probably depend on how big the planet/installation is. It would be nice to have 2 hives so you could have a 3 way war going.
yeah since aliens can only have one queen unless there hive to to huge and they need a new one.that is a good idea as long as there is NO human bioeningered aliens like in extition those where WORSE then alien newborn
Are there cutomizible characters or weapons.Does anyone have any photos/screenshots.If im posting in the wrong place or have really missed something my apologies.
Would this game be an online game for multiplayer. I think that would be tremendous.
I feel that an aliens RPG should be free roaming like Olblivian, and you could be like a Company man who has good character and speech skill...but also sabatage to get alien lifeforms, or you could be a Marine whos good in combat but has bad social skills, or a lowly colonist whos smart and faster but also weaker than other Character classes....then you could be facehugged on a planet or while youre adventuring then turn into a warrior alien that gains speed and strength from yuore human but loses everything else. So youd have to go threw the entire life stanges of an alien then eventually you wuold become an adult alien with head ridges or something...
Good idea huh? 8)
I could never get into RPG's I always went for the instant action of FPS's, I guess its all the talking involved and the usual 40+ hours of game play. Well I was told by a geriatric once that I'm "MTV Generation 8)" - short attention span!
Each to his own I suppose.
I love RPG's. Although i am a very involved gamer. I think RPG's are right behind FPS's!!
"System Shock 2" is the way I would imagine the action/RPG combination of this game. If it turns out to be anything like that (despite being 3rd person,) justice will have been done, in my opinion.
http://www.sega.com/aliens/index.php Thay have updates there
i can imagen it as an rpg
think about it if your an alien you just go round killin the people or whatever or do the missions
and if u are the people u kill the aliens ited just be like concrete jungle...
I think it should stick to allowing you to play only as the humans. Just running around dark corridors as a lone amrine would be very creepy, much like Alien Trilogy once was. Hell, I still get chills when I hear that music.
I play World of Warcraft, but i cant see the game being like that unless it of course involves all three races. Which considering the title i highly doubt.
So i wold expect something like being able to be marines or aliens. And completing objectives for either race.
Aliens; gather victims to incubate, raids on research facilities etc
Marines: Destroy alien hives and defend military strongholds.
Quote from: richards_lewis94 on Dec 31, 2007, 01:49:19 PM
i can imagen it as an rpg
think about it if your an alien you just go round killin the people or whatever or do the missions
and if u are the people u kill the aliens ited just be like concrete jungle...
Exept Predator: Concrete Jungle sucked!
I don't know how the combat system would work best as a regular hit buttons to kill or like traditional RPG's with the damage meters and stuff like that.
Forget an RPG....
Make an AVP game like Empire At War!Although a pred Vs. Marine wouldw ork better.How aliens get around?Maybe they be subplot?
Make a game where you can go where ever you want and colonists landing on your planet, finding an alien egg jump on their face, burst from their chest and land on a different planet or crashland back on LV-426.
And make for xbox 360 too.
I want a choice of Aliens or Marines. Then the two stories for both species can interlock somehow.
I wouldnt mind the setting being an Island II colony. You play a detective trying to solve the mysterious disapearances of some colonist. But things quickly get out of hand and the Aliens begin to assault large portions of the population. Your character then helps in the defense of several human fortifications. The marines come in and you help lead them to where you think the hive is and begin cleaning up the colony. This would only be the beginning as you find out who let the Xenomorph out.
Quote from: EPA1337 on Jan 03, 2008, 11:33:04 PM
I don't know how the combat system would work best as a regular hit buttons to kill or like traditional RPG's with the damage meters and stuff like that.
touche
but you get my drift
I can't really see an alien running round doing quests or hammering away at an anvil making a sweet sword.
"I am Lord Xenomorphicus!!" Said the king alien. "But I am a Jester for you and your queen!" Said bob. "Take my hammer and spread the mighty fear of our kingdom!" Said the King.
That is what we'll get.
somehow i got the feeling that when they say RPG in an aliens title it will be somewhat like Diablo or champions of norrath..... i could be wrong, and i hope i am, but it seems like thats how it would work...
Im quite enthusiastic about the idea of having a wealth of weaponry at your disposal!
I could imagine different versions of the pulse rifle, some upgraded with laser pointers, sights, scopes, different grenade types, etc.
But what I would REALLY like to see is plasma weaponry. Bolts of high explosive superheated energy blasting through infantry and vehicles alike! Now that would be awesome! ;D
"sigh" well I was hoping when I first heard about the alien rpg that we could possibly play as the aliens but I guess the marines are just as cool or watecer humans will be in the game.
I hope it a mix of Fallout 3 and Alien vs Predator 2
Ok heres some of my ideas:
At the start of the game, you are introduced to your character on planet Earth, and choose a profession or "class" to be throughout the game. The story then evolves around your character being picked to colonise another planet/moon of your choosing and off you go. Once there, the action need not kick off straight away, it could be a slow burner. It may not nescesarily even be the Aliens as we know them to begin with. Remember Hudsons line "....or just another bug-hunt"?, to me that implied that occasionally, other problems were encountered and dealt with by the Marines.
I remember playing a game called "Shenmue" on the Dreamcast years ago, and a good part of that game was actually living the characters life until the story advanced by doing things like going to work for 3 in-game days before anything happened, but it was done in a way that wasn't boring at all!! (even though it sounds it!).
Once the "proper" Aliens appear, the story then branches off in whatever direction you choose. Do you join the Marines and go from planet to planet hunting them down? do you choose to stay behind with your colony to protect them? The possibilities are endless, as long as they make it BIG. A Mass Effect kind of thing is what would be needed to make the game work IMO.
Thats just my two cents anyways.