After reading countless reviews, it seems this is one of the worst points of the film. Did it suck that bad?
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 26, 2007, 05:02:53 AM
After reading countless reviews, it seems this is one of the worst points of the film. Did it suck that bad?
It didn't bother me. I related to a lot of this stuff so that's probably why. But it wasn't annoying if that's what you mean. Others might feel different though.
At first it feels a little cheesy.. but it's not horrible, it has a bit of a gruff edge to it that you don't normally feel from cliched teen drama in movies.
Kind of. There's a scene where Ricky is delivering pizza and there's jocks sitting in the living room watching tv making fun of Ricky. Never thought I'd see such a thing in an Alien film, hell even a Predator film. Ridley Scott would be offended.
Then there's the pool scene then that's about it. "Remember Ricky, everything this little slut knows I taught her!"-Dale "Bitch"-Bully to Ricky.
It was really, really cliche. And random, on top of that.
*SPOILERS*
There's a part where Ricky's done talking to Jessi in the kitchen, and then when he's walking to his car he just gets jumped for no reason. Dale's actor is horrendous. So is his posse. The most memorable thing that dude does is get verbally pwned by Dallas and die.
The only reason I found it okay at the end was because Ricky's reaction to the death of Jessi is one of the film's few good moments.
(BTW, I'm 18 and even if I could relate it was just badly executed.)
I didn't find any of it bad at all.
I've had trouble with douchebags all my life, and we've all had that one chick who knows that we're looking at them and not paying attention to class.
"Now I know who ordered sausage lovers."
I lold.
Then again, like some say, we've never had that in a Predator/Alien film.
I hated the teen drama crap, the movie good have done without that.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 26, 2007, 05:08:04 AM
I didn't find any of it bad at all.
I've had trouble with douchebags all my life, and we've all had that one chick who knows that we're looking at them and not paying attention to class.
"Now I know who ordered sausage lovers."
I lold.
Hell yeah that was a great line.
I don't know, I'm really surprised I found alot of the characters likable..
*SPOILER!*
and I did feel bad for an amount of them when they died. I'm glad Dallas lives. His pwn-smack down to Dale was great.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 26, 2007, 05:05:55 AM
Kind of. There's a scene where Ricky is delivering pizza and there's jocks sitting in the living room watching tv making fun of Ricky. Never thought I'd see such a thing in an Alien film, hell even a Predator film. Ridley Scott would be offended.
Then there's the pool scene then that's about it. "Remember Ricky, everything this little slut knows I taught her!"-Dale "Bitch"-Bully to Ricky.
Yeah, I remember those scenes - what a joke. I never thought I'd say it, but, I'd rather have Paul Anderson writing the script than Shane Salerno.
Any of the teen stuff was 10 times better than:
LOL THESE ARE SERPENTS
WE HAS TO CHOOSE A SIDE, GIVE THE GUARD BACK HIS GUN
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 26, 2007, 05:12:43 AM
Any of the teen stuff was 10 times better than:
LOL THESE ARE SERPENTS
WE HAS TO CHOOSE A SIDE, GIVE THE GUARD BACK HIS GUN
Q.F.T.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 26, 2007, 05:12:43 AM
Any of the teen stuff was 10 times better than:
LOL THESE ARE SERPENTS
WE HAS TO CHOOSE A SIDE, GIVE THE GUARD BACK HIS GUN
I'd have that over crappy, cliched teen drama in an alien and predator movie anyday.
Still sounds like it sucks balls.
Quote from: gameoverman on Dec 26, 2007, 05:14:38 AM
I'd have that over crappy, cliched teen drama in an alien and predator movie anyday.
Again, all back to the script. Did we need teens in an AVP movie? No.
Quote from: gameoverman on Dec 26, 2007, 05:14:38 AM
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 26, 2007, 05:12:43 AM
Any of the teen stuff was 10 times better than:
LOL THESE ARE SERPENTS
WE HAS TO CHOOSE A SIDE, GIVE THE GUARD BACK HIS GUN
I'd have that over crappy, cliched teen drama in an alien and predator movie anyday.
I second that. Seriously, you just take a shit down the throats of Giger, Winston, Scott, Cameron, and Fincher and
all their hard work when you do that. Greg Strause said the other films were complex and they didn't want to dumb it down, well that's what teen drama does, it cheapens cheapens cheapens. Poor Ridley.
The horrible jumps in logic seen in AVP are slightly worse than the teen drama. Emphasis on "slightly."
I liked the Ricky character, which surprised me, so I bought into it. Yes, Dale and goons were stupid but go to any highschool and you'll find them there. Its just these actors did it badly. And I liked Jesse too.
I don't look at it so much as teen drama but more like this is life kind of shit. I think that's what turns people off about this setting. I think everything is a little to close to home and you can relate to it a little to much. It doesn't make it feel alien enough is what I getting at.
I mean it was weird seeing a predator on the street but I didn't find it stupid either.
I'd find it weirder seeing an Alien on a street than a Predator.
What's the pool scene like? Have we pretty much seen it all online already?
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Dec 26, 2007, 05:20:21 AM
The horrible jumps in logic seen in AVP are slightly worse than the teen drama. Emphasis on "slightly."
Umm, I would say the teen drama was really awful, but its a monster movie, in this case the human drama more importantly didn't interfere with the monster plot of bog the film down.
I would say treat it like a old school monster movie mash up (ie some of the Godzilla films, Frankenstein Meets Wolf Man or more accurate Frankenstein meets the Space Monster :)). Maybe my preference to the Predator films (hell I love Predator 2) as opposed to the Alien films (there ok, I just like the Predator as a character more, though the Aliens are still good villains), can explain the analogy.
Go in with that thought and you'll be just fine (my friend hated it, but admitted besides the PredAlien biology, the monster scenes were all fine). Its just a side effect of the CW producing most teen actors these days lol. On its own though its is funny bad (the non-teen stuff is fine and adequate though).
It was ok, i care more about the story and the action then the drama.
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 26, 2007, 05:28:22 AM
I'd find it weirder seeing an Alien on a street than a Predator.
What's the pool scene like? Have we pretty much seen it all online already?
you've seen it. just not on the big screen.
It was still pretty much a mindf**k seeing the Alien come in the kitchen door.
Surely don't belong in a city environment.
Thank God we'll never see that again.
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 26, 2007, 05:35:06 AM
It was still pretty much a mindf**k seeing the Alien come in the kitchen door.
Surely don't belong in a city environment.
Thank God we'll never see that again.
That was WEIRD! The alien was in a bright room too, might as well be in daylight. The predalien looked kinda awkward in the hospital, since it's not really dark. Bright as hell.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 26, 2007, 05:37:07 AM
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 26, 2007, 05:35:06 AM
It was still pretty much a mindf**k seeing the Alien come in the kitchen door.
Surely don't belong in a city environment.
Thank God we'll never see that again.
That was WEIRD! The alien was in a bright room too, might as well be in daylight. The predalien looked kinda awkward in the hospital, since it's not really dark. Bright as hell.
When was it on the kitchen floor?
Hicks you talking about the power plant scene with the alien?
I saw it tonight and I have to say I really enjoyed it. I would say the teen drama is done pretty well, thats how it was at my High School. It was there to give the movie a feeling of it actually being in a town and people really living there. Teens live in towns just as much as adults. It wasn't to dumb it down. And of course the fact of Aliens on Earth is a little different but to me it's quite a horrifying idea. They'd have so many people to cacoon and impregnate, they'd multiply quicker than roaches.
There would be nooo escape.
P.S. One of my favorite scenes was when the doctor noticed all the monitors flat-lining. It made me laugh. XD
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 26, 2007, 05:28:22 AM
I'd find it weirder seeing an Alien on a street than a Predator.
What's the pool scene like? Have we pretty much seen it all online already?
You've seen pretty much the whole pool scene, but there is some more that is associated with the pool scene that is not in the clip but in the final film.
Quote from: gameoverman on Dec 26, 2007, 05:14:38 AM
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 26, 2007, 05:12:43 AM
Any of the teen stuff was 10 times better than:
LOL THESE ARE SERPENTS
WE HAS TO CHOOSE A SIDE, GIVE THE GUARD BACK HIS GUN
I'd have that over crappy, cliched teen drama in an alien and predator movie anyday.
i agree with GOM
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:39:04 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 26, 2007, 05:37:07 AM
Quote from: CELTICPRED on Dec 26, 2007, 05:35:06 AM
It was still pretty much a mindf**k seeing the Alien come in the kitchen door.
Surely don't belong in a city environment.
Thank God we'll never see that again.
That was WEIRD! The alien was in a bright room too, might as well be in daylight. The predalien looked kinda awkward in the hospital, since it's not really dark. Bright as hell.
When was it on the kitchen floor?
Hicks you talking about the power plant scene with the alien?
After it killed the guy chef, and it came in to kill CArrie.
Oh yeah. Did it eat that guy?
Quote from: echobbase79 on Dec 26, 2007, 05:45:51 AM
Oh yeah. Did it eat that guy?
It looked like he was mauled and ripped to shred by the alien.
Yeah I think it mauled him.