Not too sure if any of them are new, but head over and check 'em out for yourselves!
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/bdtv/search.php?tag=%20avpr%20clip
SWEEET! Thanks...yeah Clip#1, #2 and #4 are new. Havent seen those yet.
Cool!
Clip #4 kicks ass......Wolf is doin it to the Aliens. ;)
All pretty awesome. I like how brutal the Alien and Predator fights are.
Quote from: Aeus on Dec 21, 2007, 08:40:20 AM
All pretty awesome. I like how brutal the Alien and Predator fights are.
Yeah I agree. Except for the Sheriffs acting in the first clip when he's calling out to the Lt. A bit corny IMO.
hah, not much of the movie is left to see is there?
Quote from: AdamJZ on Dec 21, 2007, 08:44:40 AM
hah, not much of the movie is left to see is there?
I know..lol....WTF!
Clip one: Awesome! I could see that being pretty atmospheric on the big screen - Well done on low-quality. Not loving how familiar Tyler's score is. Would'a liked something new.
Clip two: ...It's like a connect the dots of clichés. Was this scene really from the same movie as the first? "Get to the chopper" ... oh come on, if it ain't gonna be "GET TO DA CHOPPAAAH!", don't freakin' bother. And how can Dallas be fine after shooting an Alien that's right above him, yet the hunter at the beginning gets splashed from a hugger a few feet away?
Clip four: Yeah ... Chet, the badass, whimpers like the newborn and starts backing away when he gets nicked on the gut. And more Aliens standing there like ragdolls while Wolf busies himself doing more important things, like cleaning his nails.
I think I should rescind a statement; how is the first clip from the same movie as the other two? Dear Lord.
I had to add those spoiler tags. Anyway, the first clip was very good, as SiL said. The aliens sure did own those marines. Reminded me of Aliens - the hive battle.
Watched the other two clips. The kid at the window could'a been a really nice sucker-punch ... if he could've acted.
damn, those looked awful :(
the military vs the aliens was just a choppy mess of fake looking aliens and quick cuts,
and the hive battle was just lame. ( did you see how short those aliens were?!)
everything else was "meh"
The marine attack is the only scene I've seen so far that I've genuinely liked. If the entire movie was like that I'd gladly get on my knees and start sucking the Bros off with the best of them.
Except the other four scenes show the film is anything but ...
That poor kid at the end, unlucky you had it coming lol.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 08:56:13 AM
The marine attack is the only scene I've seen so far that I've genuinely liked. If the entire movie was like that I'd gladly get on my knees and start sucking the Bros off with the best of them.
Except the other four scenes show the film is anything but ...
really? the marine attack was...well, its was nothing special. we see some aliens grab some guys. choppy editing. that alien scream that seems to be in every clip. it was average at best.
Comparatively speaking (with the rest of the movie) it was cinematic gold. The cuts were too quick in places - We aren't all high on sugar, Bros - but it was better than all the other crap.
^Pity it just sounded like someone was watching "Aliens" in the background.
"i'm not leaving you".. that was terrible. I hope the movie isnt that dark the entire time, nor am I big fan of the constant quick cutting.
Cool!
All of them are badass! :)
It did look quite dark it was hard to see at times. I thought everything looked ok didnt blow me away but I was quite happy.
i think they spent all their money on the first 5 min of he movie. thats the only footage that i have actually liked. :-\
It would seem that the more you see these creatures the worse the movie gets. For example P1 was great, and we didnt even see the Predator for about an hour.
Clip two was a bit cliche I must admit. I didn't mind any of the others scenes aside from that they were a bit dark and hard to see.
Quote from: Bronx19 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:10:24 AM
It would seem that the more you see these creatures the worse the movie gets. For example P1 was great, and we didnt even see the Predator for about an hour.
But he was a new creature back then theres no real suprsie about him any more only to the people in the film.
For such a hardcore movie that claims 'nobody is safe' ... does no-one find it the least bit incongruous that the Bros didn't have the cojones to kill the damned pizza boy?
They killed pregnant homeless chicks, and yet Ricky lives.
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:20:13 AM
But he was a new creature back then theres no real suprsie about him any more only to the people in the film.
Cameron still waited an hour before showing the adult Aliens in
Aliens.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 09:21:34 AM
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:20:13 AM
But he was a new creature back then theres no real suprsie about him any more only to the people in the film.
Cameron still waited an hour before showing the adult Aliens in Aliens.
yeah but they were the originals dont forget when people come to see AVP thats what they should get. Thats the whole point of these films not to wait ages for fights to happen like the first AVP which was pretty boring and crap.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 09:21:04 AM
For such a hardcore movie that claims 'nobody is safe' ... does no-one find it the least bit incongruous that the Bros didn't have the cojones to kill the damned pizza boy?
They killed pregnant homeless chicks, and yet Ricky lives.
Doesn't he get tail impaled later in the movie?
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:23:40 AM
yeah but they were the originals
Hate to break it to you, but
Alien and
Aliens aren't the same film. They weren't shot back to back and released separate.
Quotedont forget when people come to see AVP thats what they should get. Thats the whole point of these films not to wait ages for fights to happen like the first AVP which was pretty boring and crap.
And yet what made the Alien and Pred films better than the other monster flicks was that they were bigger than the monsters in them ... :(
Quote from: gameoverman on Dec 21, 2007, 09:24:18 AM
Doesn't he get tail impaled later in the movie?
Earlier. Hence the slight hunch.
I shit you not.
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:23:40 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 09:21:34 AM
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:20:13 AM
But he was a new creature back then theres no real suprsie about him any more only to the people in the film.
Cameron still waited an hour before showing the adult Aliens in Aliens.
yeah but they were the originals dont forget when people come to see AVP thats what they should get. Thats the whole point of these films not to wait ages for fights to happen like the first AVP which was pretty boring and crap.
AvP wasnt crap due to the wait though. It was just a terrible attempt to create a story line. Really, if a movie contains human characters, there should be a considerable effort to explore them before breaking out the CGI.
In regards to the pizza kid, he doesnt really get impaled, and live, does he?
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 09:25:59 AM
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:23:40 AM
yeah but they were the originals
Hate to break it to you, but Alien and Aliens aren't the same film. They weren't shot back to back and released separate.
What I mean by originals is that there the first couple in the series the films that made them wonna make AVP.
Thats the same mindset of grouping predator 1 with predator 2.
Quote from: Bronx19 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:28:46 AM
AvP wasnt crap due to the wait though. It was just a terrible attempt to create a story line. Really, if a movie contains human characters, there should be a considerable effort to explore them before breaking out the CGI.
In regards to the pizza kid, he doesnt really get impaled, and live, does he?
I think the bros main aim was to give us a more thrill ride than build up the suspense which is what they've done. Im not saying it look brilliant but it looks to keep you interested and not falling asleep like AVP and the fights seem pretty cool not lackluster unlike AVP.
My idea of an 'exciting' fight isn't exactly one where we know who wins before the contestants even enter the ring, followed by the one we know is gonna lose anyway not even putting up a fight :-\
Yup. I'm seeing this movie for fights, not the 'breakaway acting'.
It's a pity the action is of the 'get knocked twenty feet in a straight line, smash concrete and run away unscathed' variety. :(
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 09:39:49 AM
My idea of an 'exciting' fight isn't exactly one where we know who wins before the contestants even enter the ring, followed by the one we know is gonna lose anyway not even putting up a fight :-\
Yeah but if thats the case then we might as well have one pred and one alien to balance the fights out because having three preds in this film would turn out the same as the first film two preds die and then one survives at the end.
Um...minigun? Thats more farfetched. They super mow down a forest and the predator gets a tiny bullet in the leg.
I don't like how they keep re-using that elephant sound. It's very apparent. Everything looks a little too under-lit. Maybe it'll look better big screen.
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:43:27 AM
Yeah but if thats the case then we might as well have one pred and one alien to balance the fights out because having three preds in this film would turn out the same as the first film two preds die and then one survives at the end.
Alien fans don't want the Aliens to constantly win fights; just to actually
fight back. More Predators keeps you on your toes because there's the possibility the Predator could die. That's more exciting than one Predator who we
know can't die until the end of the movie stomping on bugs.
Quote from: wolfboy on Dec 21, 2007, 09:45:49 AM
I don't like how they keep re-using that elephant sound. It's very apparent. Everything looks a little too under-lit. Maybe it'll look better big screen.
I think the sounds may be different. They were a bit different in a cut clip on youtube than the new one of bloody disgusting.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 09:44:01 AM
Um...minigun? Thats more farfetched. They super mow down a forest and the predator gets a tiny bullet in the leg.
Well he only had into a tree 6ft off the ground and he wouldnt of gotten hit.
I'm liking the clips! Thanks for sharing them!!
Bri ;D
Quote from: Bronx19 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:48:03 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 09:44:01 AM
Um...minigun? Thats more farfetched. They super mow down a forest and the predator gets a tiny bullet in the leg.
Well he only had into a tree 6ft off the ground and he wouldnt of gotten hit.
Um...all the trees got mowed down? Firing explosive rounds? I'm pretty sure the predator just f**king ran.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 09:54:36 AM
I'm pretty sure the predator just f**king ran.
I'm also sure Mac fired off with his machine-gun first, during which time the Pred ran like a sissy,
before picking up the mini-gun.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 09:47:13 AM
Alien fans don't want the Aliens to constantly win fights; just to actually fight back. More Predators keeps you on your toes because there's the possibility the Predator could die. That's more exciting than one Predator who we know can't die until the end of the movie stomping on bugs.
Before I say this I'm an alien fan as well I just like having a predator pic .
Predator
stronger
weapons
smart
aliens
smart
headbite if there lucky to get him
tail but that wouldn't kill him just give him a hit
acid blood but his armour is acid proof
So the only way is if they surprise attack him and headbite or totally out number. If you put a predator and an alien in arm wrestle who's gonna win. I don't think an aliens gonna chuck a predator because there too heavy. So really its being out numbered and surprise attacks to really defeat him. And we saw and alien jump on his back and he chucked him off.
I still point out that the alien/predator fight in AVP1 was pretty unbalanced. The predator had wristblades which melted, and armor which melted, with a netgun which also melted. Seriously, that predator was fighting with pretty much his hands and almost killed grid, the 'smartest' of the xenomorphs.
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:58:37 AM
stronger
Depends on the movie.
Quotetail but that wouldnt kill him just give him a hit
...Like impaling through the chest?
Quoteacid blood but his armour is acid proof
His skin isn't.
QuoteI dont think an aliens gonna chuck a predator because there too heavy.
Could you go watch AvP? Please? I know it's a bad movie, but come on. With barely a flick of his tail, Grid sent Chopper flying to a skidding stop.
I would give an opinion on the clips, but the lighting made it damn near impossible to tell what the f**k was going on.
Now I'm all for dark cinematography infact I love it when it's done with style. These clips on the otherhand are just way too dark. I really hope it's not like this in the theater.
Then celtic picked grid up by the tail, swinged him around like a stuffed toy, and sent him flying.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:01:20 AM
I dont think an aliens gonna chuck a predator because there too heavy.
Could you go watch AvP? Please? I know it's a bad movie, but come on. With barely a flick of his tail, Grid sent Chopper flying to a skidding stop.
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I can understand the alien queens tail impailig a human because there much stronger but a normal size alien lifting a predator up with its overly size tail. Espaeally an overly sized predator that looked like a sumo wrestler.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:05:34 AM
Then celtic picked grid up by the tail, swinged him around like a stuffed toy, and sent him flying.
Celtic picked up the Alien by the tail by putting his entire upper body strength into it, and didn't get Grid half as far as Grid got Chopper.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:07:22 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:05:34 AM
Then celtic picked grid up by the tail, swinged him around like a stuffed toy, and sent him flying.
Celtic picked up the Alien by the tail by putting his entire upper body strength into it, and didn't get Grid half as far as Grid got Chopper.
::)
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:07:22 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:05:34 AM
Then celtic picked grid up by the tail, swinged him around like a stuffed toy, and sent him flying.
Celtic picked up the Alien by the tail by putting his entire upper body strength into it, and didn't get Grid half as far as Grid got Chopper.
Yeah, lots of a strength in his 15 foot tail.
B-b-but we all know Paul Anderson is an Alien fanboy!
Quote from: wolfboy on Dec 21, 2007, 10:09:11 AM
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Yeah, the facts are so annoying ...
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:10:26 AM
Yeah, lots of a strength in his 15 foot tail.
Like Wolf's suddenly comparatively exaggerated strength? Wha-hey!
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: wolfboy on Dec 21, 2007, 10:09:11 AM
::)
Yeah, the facts are so annoying ...
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:10:26 AM
Yeah, lots of a strength in his 15 foot tail.
Like Wolf's suddenly comparatively exaggerated strength? Wha-hey!
Where does it show a predator not being strong in any of the previous movies?
This movie is horribly shot, can't see anything ::).
Most of the scenes were just cheesy enough, but I actually liked the Sewer battle and Dallas using the hand-held Predator's shoulder cannon to blast the Aliens.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Where does it show a predator not being strong in any of the previous movies?
Sure they're strong.
But I didn't see Celtic having much luck keeping Grid pinned down with his whole body on top of it. Wolf just uses a single hand.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:07:22 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:05:34 AM
Then celtic picked grid up by the tail, swinged him around like a stuffed toy, and sent him flying.
Celtic picked up the Alien by the tail by putting his entire upper body strength into it, and didn't get Grid half as far as Grid got Chopper.
How can you be so sure of this SiL? The way in which it's edited and shot, you don't get a clear view how far Chopper was thrown. When Celtic throws Grid however it's done in a single pull-back shot, Grid flys at least a good 15+ feet before he hits the ground.
You also have to take into account that Chopper was dead weight, whereas Grid was most definitely using all his strength to resist the attack.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:20:30 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Where does it show a predator not being strong in any of the previous movies?
Sure they're strong.
But I didn't see Celtic having much luck keeping Grid pinned down with his whole body on top of it. Wolf just uses a single hand.
Novice. Football gear on. Fatties.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Where does it show a predator not being strong in any of the previous movies?
Yeah theyve always been strong in the first one the predator lifts Arnie up with one hand lol.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:14:59 AM
Quote from: wolfboy on Dec 21, 2007, 10:09:11 AM
::)
Yeah, the facts are so annoying ...
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:10:26 AM
Yeah, lots of a strength in his 15 foot tail.
Like Wolf's suddenly comparatively exaggerated strength? Wha-hey!
Where does it show a predator not being strong in any of the previous movies?
It would be more exciting to have a fight that would give both creatures the same opportunity of winning. I,m imagining the alien 3 runner alien wich was not a pushover :D fighting a very strong Predator, an equal match. A long brutal fight.
The xenomorph in alien 3 fought prisoners with no weapons.
All of the Predators have a good amount of strength if you ask me... Even the First Predator can lift Arnold Schwarzenegger up with no effort, the Second Predator lifted Danny Glover up by saying "Motherf**ker" and throws him without any effort at all.
And now, the Wolf Predator's got all of the strengths, yo!
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:21:39 AM
Novice. Football gear on. Fatties.
Uh, fatty and football gear would make it
easier to pin the Alien due to the sheer weight, and the extra muscle mass would mean Celtic should have zero problem holding the Alien down if Wolf can do it with one hand. No amount of skill would let me hold down a guy with one hand that a fat guy in footy gear couldn't keep down by
lying on top of them.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:24:06 AM
The xenomorph in alien 3 fought prisoners with no weapons.
True but it was a very vital alien and ver tough to kill.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:25:20 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:21:39 AM
Novice. Football gear on. Fatties.
Uh, fatty and football gear would make it easier to pin the Alien due to the sheer weight, and the extra muscle mass would mean Celtic should have zero problem holding the Alien down if Wolf can do it with one hand. No amount of skill would let me hold down a guy with one hand that a fat guy in footy gear couldn't keep down by lying on top of them.
Okay, you see how easier it is when your on your back with full platemail on opposed to chainmail. If anytime can lift arny with one hand (who probably weighs more than an alien) why can't wolf lift two aliens?
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 10:25:29 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:24:06 AM
The xenomorph in alien 3 fought prisoners with no weapons.
True but it was a very vital alien and ver tough to kill.
It was the first time we saw an alien that quick but apart from that it was the same.
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 10:25:16 AM
All of the Predators have a good amount of strength if you ask me... Even the First Predator can lift Arnold Schwarzenegger up with no effort, the Second Predator lifted Danny Glover up by saying "Motherf**ker" and throws him without any effort at all.
And now, the Wolf Predator's got all of the strengths, yo!
Wolf looks like an anorexic, Kevin Peter Hall always looked muscular as the predator. I'd say the original pred would f#ck Wolf up.
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 10:28:14 AM
Wolf looks like an anorexic, Kevin Peter Hall always looked muscular as the predator. I'd say the original pred would f#ck Wolf up.
I agree that the Wolf Predator needs a protein shake there, but I actually think it's a reminiscent of the First Predator and Second Predator. Slimmer and athletic and that's what the Strause Brothers want and they did succeed!
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:27:10 AM
Okay, you see how easier it is when your on your back with full platemail on opposed to chainmail.
I think you're missing the point.
If Celtic, with his whole body weight and strength, can't hold down an Alien without getting flipped off seconds later ... how can Wolf hold down Aliens with a single hand?
That's the problem. There is a gross difference in strength here.
QuoteIf anytime can lift arny with one hand (who probably weighs more than an alien) why can't wolf lift two aliens?
If Grid can flip an entire Predator off his body with a slap in the face, why can't two Aliens lay a hand on a Predator at arm's length?
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:31:18 AM
If Grid can flip an entire Predator off his body with a slap in the face, why can't two Aliens lay a hand on a Predator at arm's length?
But wasnt the predators inexsperinced hunters in AVP unlike wolf which is more battle hardened and prepared for alien attacks.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:31:18 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:27:10 AM
Okay, you see how easier it is when your on your back with full platemail on opposed to chainmail.
I think you're missing the point.
If Celtic, with his whole body weight and strength, can't hold down an Alien without getting flipped off seconds later ... how can Wolf hold down Aliens with a single hand?
That's the problem. There is a gross difference in strength here.
QuoteIf anytime can lift arny with one hand (who probably weighs more than an alien) why can't wolf lift two aliens?
If Grid can flip an entire Predator off his body with a slap in the face, why can't two Aliens lay a hand on a Predator at arm's length?
I never said the aliens couldn't have used their claws. But most creatures freak out with you deathgrip their throats. We saw grid hit him with his tail and saw him leap upon him with lots of momentum. The predators in AVP1 were novice, the first time encountering an xenomorph. Aliens have never shown to be super strong. We see a xenomorph in aliens hold upon a door, and several aliens bashing against a pressure door.
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 10:34:45 AM
But wasnt the predators inexsperinced hunters in AVP unlike wolf which is more battle hardened and prepared for alien attacks.
Okay ... so how does
experience suddenly make an opponent
you are holding at arm's length incapable of attacking you when
their arms are free and they have a freaking
eight foot tail sticking out their ass?
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:35:20 AM
But most creatures freak out with you deathgrip their throats.
Not for that long. If someone grabs your neck, and going for their arms doesn't work, you immediately go for them. The Aliens don't. They go well beyond what point any mentally retarded organism would wait before trying a different approach.
QuoteWe saw grid hit him with his tail and saw him leap upon him with lots of momentum.
We also see him bitch-slap Celtic in the face and get him off him.
Quoteand several aliens bashing against a pressure door.
Several Aliens? Newt and Ripley couldn't stand side by side in that corridor.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 10:34:45 AM
But wasnt the predators inexsperinced hunters in AVP unlike wolf which is more battle hardened and prepared for alien attacks.
Okay ... so how does experience suddenly make an opponent you are holding at arm's length incapable of attacking you when their arms are free and they have a freaking eight foot tail sticking out their ass?
But didnt the predator zap them soon after its not like he held them for ages.
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 10:40:47 AM
But didnt the predator zap them soon after its not like he held them for ages.
He didn't zap them. The Aliens stood there until Chet saved them.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 10:34:45 AM
But wasnt the predators inexsperinced hunters in AVP unlike wolf which is more battle hardened and prepared for alien attacks.
Okay ... so how does experience suddenly make an opponent you are holding at arm's length incapable of attacking you when their arms are free and they have a freaking eight foot tail sticking out their ass?
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:35:20 AM
But most creatures freak out with you deathgrip their throats.
Not for that long. If someone grabs your neck, and going for their arms doesn't work, you immediately go for them. The Aliens don't. They go well beyond what point any mentally retarded organism would wait before trying a different approach.
QuoteWe saw grid hit him with his tail and saw him leap upon him with lots of momentum.
We also see him bitch-slap Celtic in the face and get him off him.
Quoteand several aliens bashing against a pressure door.
Several Aliens? Newt and Ripley couldn't stand side by side in that corridor.
We only see aliens use their tail in around 3 instances I can think of, two being in that piece of shit AVP1. Aliens were never originally meant to use their tails as weapons. The queen in aliens used hers, the queen in AVP1 used hers, and grid used his. I never remember grid bitching slapping celtic, I remember him clawing his mask when on top of celtic. And your not even comparing their roots, your comparing AVP1 a film that shits on alien and predator. I'm using sources from predator and predator 2.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:42:25 AM
Aliens were never originally meant to use their tails as weapons.
Which is why the original sent Parker flying with its?
QuoteI never remember grid bitching slapping celtic,
Grid starts on Celtic. Celtic gets on top. Grid gets on top. Celtic kicks him off.
QuoteAnd your not even comparing their roots
I don't remember any Predators in the original Alien movies ...
Quoteyour comparing AVP1 a film that shits on alien and predator.
To AvP2, another movie that shits on alien and predator.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:41:51 AM
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 10:40:47 AM
But didnt the predator zap them soon after its not like he held them for ages.
He didn't zap them. The Aliens stood there until Chet saved them.
Im sure he zapped one and was gonna do the other one in then chet saves it. ;)
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 09:21:34 AM
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 09:20:13 AM
But he was a new creature back then theres no real suprsie about him any more only to the people in the film.
Cameron still waited an hour before showing the adult Aliens in Aliens.
I'm sure the Bros would've waited longer had Fox not force them to make the movie under 90 f**king minutes. Imagine Aliens if Fox said, kay James, nothing over 90 minutes.
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 10:45:39 AM
Im sure he zapped one and was gonna do the other one in then chet saves it. ;)
I'm sure you're wrong. He tracks on, that's it.
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 21, 2007, 10:47:25 AM
Imagine Aliens if Fox said, kay James, nothing over 90 minutes.
He would'a told them to f**k off.
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 21, 2007, 10:47:25 AM
I'm sure the Bros would've waited longer had Fox not force them to make the movie under 90 f**king minutes. Imagine Aliens if Fox said, kay James, nothing over 90 minutes.
I think it was up to the directors if it was longer because Im sure they cut allot out.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:24:06 AM
The xenomorph in alien 3 fought prisoners with no weapons.
Gimme a a shuriken and some wrist blades, I'll kill an Alien, prolly die from blood spray but i'll kill the damn thing.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:45:04 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:42:25 AM
Aliens were never originally meant to use their tails as weapons.
Which is why the original sent Parker flying with its?
QuoteI never remember grid bitching slapping celtic,
Grid starts on Celtic. Celtic gets on top. Grid gets on top. Celtic kicks him off.
QuoteAnd your not even comparing their roots
I don't remember any Predators in the original Alien movies ...
Quoteyour comparing AVP1 a film that shits on alien and predator.
To AvP2, another movie that shits on alien and predator.
The xeno in aliens didn't impale anything. I assume thats what your meaning by using their tails? I'm saying I got proof to prove that predators have lots of strength. Your using AVP1 as a definitive way to define xenomorphs in general.
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 21, 2007, 10:47:25 AM
I'm sure the Bros would've waited longer had Fox not force them to make the movie under 90 f**king minutes. Imagine Aliens if Fox said, kay James, nothing over 90 minutes.
I think it was up to the directors if it was longer because Im sure they cut allot out.
Damn right, we've all seen the clip and how they cut to the next scene way to fast and are always missing bridging scenes, thus chars just jump from one room to the next, we never actually see them traveling there.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:49:22 AM
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 10:45:39 AM
Im sure he zapped one and was gonna do the other one in then chet saves it. ;)
I'm sure you're wrong. He tracks on, that's it.
I think your find he was only holding one alien when he got hit by chet. ;)
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:53:20 AM
The xeno in aliens didn't impale anything. I assume thats what your meaning by using their tails? I'm saying I got proof to prove that predators have lots of strength. Your using AVP1 as a definitive way to define xenomorphs in general.
AvP is just as much canon as the other movies.
They don't even have to impale. They could just hit him.
Hold on a sec, I've just re-watched the Sewer battle scene and found out something. After the Wolf Predator blown both of the Aliens' heads off after a series of squirming and chokeholding, since when does Wolf Predator not being affected by the acidic blood?
It's pretty intense when Wolf is charging his gun tho... you never know if it'll charge in time of if the Alien will get to him first.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
If someone grabs your neck, and going for their arms doesn't work, you immediately go for them. The Aliens don't. They go well beyond what point any mentally retarded organism would wait before trying a different approach.
That's very true. If the Predator were trying to hold back a single mountain lion by the throat he would probably suffer more damage than what the Aliens are capable of doing to him in this movie. On the other hand, that particular shot exists for the sole purpose of making the Predator look powerful and imposing, which undercuts the Aliens by plenty, but works as a particularly impressive visual and probably one of the few memorable shots from this hybrid film series. It stretches logic, even for this kind of movie, but it's a "cool" moment. For some reason, that doesn't particularly bother me.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:55:04 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:53:20 AM
The xeno in aliens didn't impale anything. I assume thats what your meaning by using their tails? I'm saying I got proof to prove that predators have lots of strength. Your using AVP1 as a definitive way to define xenomorphs in general.
AvP is just as much canon as the other movies.
They don't even have to impale. They could just hit him.
Woah, your contradicting your values there SiL, better watch it. Plus they are in water, they could be slightly buoyant. I think that it's a bit far fetched for him to hold two aliens like that, but still, once an alien got into headbite range I'd put out my hands to keep them away.
Quote from: El Diablo on Dec 21, 2007, 10:56:52 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
If someone grabs your neck, and going for their arms doesn't work, you immediately go for them. The Aliens don't. They go well beyond what point any mentally retarded organism would wait before trying a different approach.
That's very true. If the Predator were trying to hold back a single mountain lion by the throat he would probably suffer more damage than what the Aliens are capable of doing to him in this movie. On the other hand, that particular shot exists for the sole purpose of making the Predator look powerful and imposing, which undercuts the Aliens by plenty, but works as a particularly impressive visual and probably one of the few memorable shots from this hybrid film series. It stretches logic, even for this kind of movie, but it's a "cool" moment. For some reason, that doesn't particularly bother me.
I think a Lion has no chance of hurting a Pred anymore than a house cat can hurt a human being.
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 21, 2007, 10:56:15 AM
It's pretty intense when Wolf is charging his gun tho... you never know if it'll charge in time of if the Alien will get to him first.
It doesn't matter. Wolf will kill it, because he has to live till the end.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:56:59 AM
I think that it's a bit far fetched for him to hold two aliens like that, but still, once an alien got into headbite range I'd put out my hands to keep them away.
My problem is the Aliens don't just reach out and claw him. Or slap him with their tails. They don't do
anything but snap their jaws.
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 21, 2007, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: El Diablo on Dec 21, 2007, 10:56:52 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
If someone grabs your neck, and going for their arms doesn't work, you immediately go for them. The Aliens don't. They go well beyond what point any mentally retarded organism would wait before trying a different approach.
That's very true. If the Predator were trying to hold back a single mountain lion by the throat he would probably suffer more damage than what the Aliens are capable of doing to him in this movie. On the other hand, that particular shot exists for the sole purpose of making the Predator look powerful and imposing, which undercuts the Aliens by plenty, but works as a particularly impressive visual and probably one of the few memorable shots from this hybrid film series. It stretches logic, even for this kind of movie, but it's a "cool" moment. For some reason, that doesn't particularly bother me.
I think a Lion has no chance of hurting a Pred anymore than a house cat can hurt a human being.
I don't know. I've known some pretty vicious house cats.
Wolverines have been known to take down bears.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 11:00:11 AM
Wolverines have been known to take down bears.
That's your next 'vs.' movie.
Quote from: El Diablo on Dec 21, 2007, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 21, 2007, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: El Diablo on Dec 21, 2007, 10:56:52 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
If someone grabs your neck, and going for their arms doesn't work, you immediately go for them. The Aliens don't. They go well beyond what point any mentally retarded organism would wait before trying a different approach.
That's very true. If the Predator were trying to hold back a single mountain lion by the throat he would probably suffer more damage than what the Aliens are capable of doing to him in this movie. On the other hand, that particular shot exists for the sole purpose of making the Predator look powerful and imposing, which undercuts the Aliens by plenty, but works as a particularly impressive visual and probably one of the few memorable shots from this hybrid film series. It stretches logic, even for this kind of movie, but it's a "cool" moment. For some reason, that doesn't particularly bother me.
I think a Lion has no chance of hurting a Pred anymore than a house cat can hurt a human being.
I don't know. I've known some pretty vicious house cats.
Quote from: El Diablo on Dec 21, 2007, 10:59:27 AM
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 21, 2007, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: El Diablo on Dec 21, 2007, 10:56:52 AM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:39:00 AM
If someone grabs your neck, and going for their arms doesn't work, you immediately go for them. The Aliens don't. They go well beyond what point any mentally retarded organism would wait before trying a different approach.
That's very true. If the Predator were trying to hold back a single mountain lion by the throat he would probably suffer more damage than what the Aliens are capable of doing to him in this movie. On the other hand, that particular shot exists for the sole purpose of making the Predator look powerful and imposing, which undercuts the Aliens by plenty, but works as a particularly impressive visual and probably one of the few memorable shots from this hybrid film series. It stretches logic, even for this kind of movie, but it's a "cool" moment. For some reason, that doesn't particularly bother me.
I think a Lion has no chance of hurting a Pred anymore than a house cat can hurt a human being.
I don't know. I've known some pretty vicious house cats.
Indeed, but what real damage can they cause? A few lacerations?
A house cat to a human is as a lion is to a Predator.
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:59:14 AM
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 21, 2007, 10:56:15 AM
It's pretty intense when Wolf is charging his gun tho... you never know if it'll charge in time of if the Alien will get to him first.
It doesn't matter. Wolf will kill it, because he has to live till the end.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 10:56:59 AM
I think that it's a bit far fetched for him to hold two aliens like that, but still, once an alien got into headbite range I'd put out my hands to keep them away.
My problem is the Aliens don't just reach out and claw him. Or slap him with their tails. They don't do anything but snap their jaws.
I saw it again and he does zap one quick then gets hit.
Quote from: El Diablo on Dec 21, 2007, 11:00:55 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 11:00:11 AM
Wolverines have been known to take down bears.
That's your next 'vs.' movie.
I'd see it. Go Wolverines!
Hey, Predators are also known to kill grizzly bears too in the comics. Which could also be another concrete evidence that all Predators themselves have superalien strength.
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 11:04:35 AM
Hey, Predators are also known to kill grizzly bears too in the comics. Which could also be another concrete evidence that all Predators themselves have superalien strength.
I can kill a grizzly bear with ease with Predator gear.... -_-"
QuoteA house cat to a human is as a lion is to a Predator.
Complete nonsense, although a pred has the strength of about 4 uber strong bodybuilders, i don't think it can bring down a lion that easily. If the predator is unarmed it could be possibly killed by a lion. You are really underestimating a lion here, they are way more imposing in real life. Hell, a silverback gorilla could have a good fight with an unarmed predator.
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 21, 2007, 11:08:01 AM
I can kill a grizzly bear with ease with Predator gear.... -_-"
And an average human is killed easily by a grizzly bear as compared to the Predator. I mean come on, an animal wouldn't stand a chance against a extraterrestrial humanoid.
Of course you can kill a grizzly bear with ease simply because you are a human and are using a Predator weaponry to help you out of your predicament.
Wheres sil gone.
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Daweism on Dec 21, 2007, 11:08:01 AM
I can kill a grizzly bear with ease with Predator gear.... -_-"
And an average human is killed easily by a grizzly bear as compared to the Predator. I mean come on, an animal wouldn't stand a chance against a extraterrestrial humanoid.
Of course you can kill a grizzly bear with ease simply because you are a human and are using a Predator weaponry to help you out of your predicament.
A grizzly would f@ck an unarmed predator up.
Quote from: nukem11 on Dec 21, 2007, 11:11:20 AM
Wheres sil gone.
Does it matter? SiL's opinion isn't omnipitant.
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:11:44 AM
A grizzly would f@ck an unarmed predator up.
Hell no it wouldn't, because a Predator has much more strength than a grizzly bear. Unless of course, if the grizzly bear quickly bites the Predator with it's own sharp teeth.
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 11:14:18 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:11:44 AM
A grizzly would f@ck an unarmed predator up.
Hell no it wouldn't, because a Predator has much more strength than a grizzly bear. Unless of course, if the grizzly bear quickly bites the Predator with it's own sharp teeth.
I,m positive a grizzly has more strength than a predator.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 11:14:37 AM
Well you should make it more apparent.
When we win the next debate again I will. ;)
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:15:59 AM
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 11:14:18 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:11:44 AM
A grizzly would f@ck an unarmed predator up.
Hell no it wouldn't, because a Predator has much more strength than a grizzly bear. Unless of course, if the grizzly bear quickly bites the Predator with it's own sharp teeth.
I,m positive a grizzly has more strength than a predator.
Wow, thats bullshit.
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:15:59 AM
I,m positive a grizzly has more strength than a predator.
But the grizzly had to be careful though, the Predator has a nuclear mechanism attached to itself for honorable suicide if it is badly injured by the grizzly's claws.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:15:59 AM
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 11:14:18 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:11:44 AM
A grizzly would f@ck an unarmed predator up.
Hell no it wouldn't, because a Predator has much more strength than a grizzly bear. Unless of course, if the grizzly bear quickly bites the Predator with it's own sharp teeth.
I,m positive a grizzly has more strength than a predator.
Wow, thats bullshit.
Predator are really really strong compared to humans but it's still a humanoid and thus not perfectly build for a fight against a grizzly and i think even a very strong silverback has a chance.
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:15:59 AM
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 11:14:18 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:11:44 AM
A grizzly would f@ck an unarmed predator up.
Hell no it wouldn't, because a Predator has much more strength than a grizzly bear. Unless of course, if the grizzly bear quickly bites the Predator with it's own sharp teeth.
I,m positive a grizzly has more strength than a predator.
Wow, thats bullshit.
Predator are really really strong compared to humans but it's still a humanoid and thus not perfectly build for a fight against a grizzly and i think even a very strong silverback has a chance.
Predator quickly gutting a man and taking his body into the trees isn't strength?
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 11:22:26 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:15:59 AM
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 11:14:18 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:11:44 AM
A grizzly would f@ck an unarmed predator up.
Hell no it wouldn't, because a Predator has much more strength than a grizzly bear. Unless of course, if the grizzly bear quickly bites the Predator with it's own sharp teeth.
I,m positive a grizzly has more strength than a predator.
Wow, thats bullshit.
Predator are really really strong compared to humans but it's still a humanoid and thus not perfectly build for a fight against a grizzly and i think even a very strong silverback has a chance.
Predator quickly gutting a man and taking his body into the trees isn't strength?
I already said a predator is very strong but a grizzly could easily do that, if it was more agile and a silverback can definately drag that weight up in the trees.
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:15:59 AM
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 11:14:18 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:11:44 AM
A grizzly would f@ck an unarmed predator up.
Hell no it wouldn't, because a Predator has much more strength than a grizzly bear. Unless of course, if the grizzly bear quickly bites the Predator with it's own sharp teeth.
I,m positive a grizzly has more strength than a predator.
A grizzly is pretty strong, I think it would put up a good fight.
They should just have the Predator and Alien fight in a zoo during the next movie so that we can put all these theories to rest. Oh, and throw in a skirmish with a house cat just for the hell of it.
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
Predator are really really strong compared to humans but it's still a humanoid and thus not perfectly build for a fight against a grizzly and i think even a very strong silverback has a chance.
And Predators are strong humanoid crab-faced aliens, not to mention!
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:25:12 AM
I already said a predator is very strong but a grizzly could easily do that, if it was more agile and a silverback can definately drag that weight up in the trees.
It depends on the fight itself then, if the Predator was heavily injured by the attacks being sustained, it could possibly blow itself up by activating the nuclear mechanism on it's wrist computer.
In the end the house cat will be honored by an elder predator with a ball of string from the 17th century.
We already know that the real battle is Cat Vs Aliens. Cats just have that hateful instinct.
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:27:52 AM
In the end the house cat will be honored by an elder predator with a ball of string from the 17th century.
That so needs to happen. :o
Quote from: El Diablo on Dec 21, 2007, 11:28:56 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:27:52 AM
In the end the house cat will be honored by an elder predator with a ball of string from the 17th century.
That so needs to happen. :o
I know, i hear they might use it for AVP3.
Quote from: Weasel on Dec 21, 2007, 11:28:40 AM
We already know that the real battle is Cat Vs Aliens. Cats just have that hateful instinct.
hmm, an alien-cat hybrid would probably only eat and sleep all day wouldn't it.
And the twist at the end will be the stunning revelation that the cat is Jonesy and his owner is Ms. Yutani who is actually an android that happens to be Skynet's second cousin, twice removed! Makes perfect sense if you think about it.
Oh my god, these clips are terrible... :D
The only clip that had potential was the National Guard vs. Aliens one, but that potential quickly diminishes as soon as we start getting ridiculously jumpy cuts...Colin, should I purchase and snort cocaine for your film, so I can keep track of what is going on?
Not to mention that apparently, aliens materialize out of thin air, one millisecond there's nothing there, the next millisecond it is there...how I ask? Also it's important to note that the aliens coincidentally materialize after one has been killed by Wolf in some fancy way...and the one time they attack two at a time, Wolf grabs them both by the neck!
I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing... :D
Quote from: Gates on Dec 21, 2007, 11:53:02 AM
Oh my god, these clips are terrible... :D
The only clip that had potential was the National Guard vs. Aliens one, but that potential quickly diminishes as soon as we start getting ridiculously jumpy cuts...Colin, should I purchase and snort cocaine for your film, so I can keep track of what is going on?
Not to mention that apparently, aliens materialize out of thin air, one millisecond there's nothing there, the next millisecond it is there...how I ask? Also it's important to note that the aliens coincidentally materialize after one has been killed by Wolf in some fancy way...and the one time they attack two at a time, Wolf grabs them both by the neck!
I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing... :D
Lets put a smile on that Face!
(I did it for you gates ;) )
Thank you... :P
Although you didn't have too...these clips have got me laughing like a four year old and everyone in the office is looking my way... ;D
************SPOILERS************
Save your money for
The Dark Knight... :D
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I actually find most of the clips ludicrously funny. And there are some elements that I liked though, such as Dallas blasting Aliens with the Predator's hand-held shoulder cannon and when it charges, it also have cool symbols of the Predators too!
I liked the Sewer battle but what I actually find preposterous is that the Wolf Predator doesn't seem to be affected by the acid blood at all.
Hey, I'm a big TDK fan. I'll see it midnight showing for sure. The office? Lol, I'm sitting here on my comp and it's 5am. I need to go to bed.
Ahhh, a Mountain Time Zone guy...I'm on the east coast myself, it's a quarter after 7 here, and I've been at work since 5AM...talk about no life... :-\
Quote from: SiL on Dec 21, 2007, 10:59:14 AM
My problem is the Aliens don't just reach out and claw him. Or slap him with their tails. They don't do anything but snap their jaws.
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Forget that the brothers want this, not the "real" creatures^^]
Maybe its some kind of reflex, when an alien see or locates a head directly in front of him :-\, then it has to headbite, but that would be make no sense for other scenes, srry^^
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 11:26:57 AM
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
Predator are really really strong compared to humans but it's still a humanoid and thus not perfectly build for a fight against a grizzly and i think even a very strong silverback has a chance.
And Predators are strong humanoid crab-faced aliens, not to mention!
Quote from: mightydreadlock on Dec 21, 2007, 11:25:12 AM
I already said a predator is very strong but a grizzly could easily do that, if it was more agile and a silverback can definately drag that weight up in the trees.
It depends on the fight itself then, if the Predator was heavily injured by the attacks being sustained, it could possibly blow itself up by activating the nuclear mechanism on it's wrist computer.
Bears have that animalistic way of fighting, light without remorse....humaniods arent designed like that....we are designed to use our brains not our bronze....
I've seen them now. They're really too dark but okay. I quite liked the clips overall.
Only thing I didn't like was Dallas using that Predator gun. I cringe everytime I see that.
Quote from: Optimus Prime on Dec 21, 2007, 12:22:32 PM
Bears have that animalistic way of fighting, light without remorse....humaniods arent designed like that....we are designed to use our brains not our bronze....
And the Predators may use cunning methods to take down the grizzly bear, either through the use of booby traps or by superalien force itself.
Quote from: Optimus Prime on Dec 21, 2007, 12:22:32 PM
we are designed to use our brains not our bronze....
Or evidently in some cases, neither.
Its so funny how the fanboys bitching always about the sewer scene, where wolf is holding the two aliens.
Watch ALIENS! Vasquez was in hand to hand combat with one bastard and she didnt get injured! The Alien was just roaring and moving like a freak ... and then Vasquez even could pull it back with her leg (And still .. Alien did nothing ... though it could clearly reach her with claws) ....
::)
greetz
Quote from: $cHm0cK on Dec 21, 2007, 01:46:25 PM
Vasquez was in hand to hand combat with one bastard and she didnt get injured! The Alien was just roaring and moving like a freak ... and then Vasquez even could pull it back with her leg (And still .. Alien did nothing ... though it could clearly reach her with claws) ....
::)
greetz
Do you know what hand-to-hand combat actually is? Because that's not what happens between Vasquez and the Alien. Maybe
you should be the one who watches Aliens again.
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 21, 2007, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: Optimus Prime on Dec 21, 2007, 12:22:32 PM
Bears have that animalistic way of fighting, light without remorse....humaniods arent designed like that....we are designed to use our brains not our bronze....
And the Predators may use cunning methods to take down the grizzly bear, either through the use of booby traps or by superalien force itself.
There actually is a comic where a Pred goes hand-to-hand with a mother Alaskan brown bear without any weapon other than his wristblades.
The Pred holds his own on his feet. Momma eventually knocks him off a cliff, but he is strong enough to stand her up without being ripped apart or overpowered.
The only things that really bothered me in the clips are
- "I'm not leaving you." ... *bleugh*
- Chet/Aliens rising from seemingly nowhere.
- How dark the lighting is.
- So much Alien pawnage!
Seems like it could be entertaining...if I shut down the Alien fan part of my brain. I'm too used to logic and talent.
Only watched the marine attack, and it looks brillant. Very atmospheric and brutal and the quivering lips are back! 8)
Quote from: War Wager on Dec 21, 2007, 02:11:13 PM
Only watched the marine attack, and it looks brillant. Very atmospheric and brutal and the quivering lips are back! 8)
Back? When did they leave?
The only ever quivered in AvP did they not?
I honestly don't know...but I do know I hated it.
Up, down, up, down, faster, faster...what the hell?
QuoteThere actually is a comic where a Pred goes hand-to-hand with a mother Alaskan brown bear without any weapon other than his wristblades.
The Pred holds his own on his feet. Momma eventually knocks him off a cliff, but he is strong enough to stand her up without being ripped apart or overpowered.
See, that strikes me as absolutely ridiculous. A bear's claws can hit with the force of several TONS if I'm not mistaken, Predators are tough but at the end of the day they're fleshy beings and that amount of force should rend huge chunks out of them. The only way I could see a Predator winning that kind of fight is if it avoided being hit at all.
ONTO THE CLIPS:
Well first things first they're all ridiculously dark and I couldn't tell what the hell was going on in most of them. I hope to god the lightning is better and the cuts arn't as dramatic because otherwise I'll be extremely disappointed. The first clip is really the only one that struck me as having any atmosphere, everything else was extremely cliched. The fight clips are really pushing my suspension of disbelief. Maybe it's because I'm watching them individually and over-analysing them as oposed to part of the whole movie but I feel that the Strause Brothers completely fail at making the Predator's badassness believable at all. Seems to me that Wolf's survival is based on luck rather than skill. I mean the predalien just knocked him through a f**king wall, he's dazed and confused, the predalien is advancing, he gives it a fleshwound with his wristblades... and it retreats and whines in pain? Sorry I don't buy it. If you're going to constantly get your hero painted into a corner (which is bad writing in the first place) then at least make the deus ex machina dramatic or exciting. This is the sort of thing I was affraid of seeing. Wolf up shit creek without a paddle, saved time and time again by seemingly divine intervention.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 21, 2007, 02:17:21 PM
This is the sort of thing I was affraid of seeing. Wolf up shit creek without a paddle, saved time and time again by seemingly divine intervention.
But he's an elite predator (whatever the fu<k that is)...didn't you know?
Oh sorry for my ignorance, I didn't realise that what I thought was luck was actually Wolf manipulating midi-chlorians and weilding The Force. He must have a higher count thank master Yoda!
Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Dec 21, 2007, 02:16:50 PM
I honestly don't know...but I do know I hated it.
Up, down, up, down, faster, faster...what the hell?
I think it's a great touch, like they can't wait to kill them.
The clip is really dark but I think thats great too. It's what makes it so atmospheric and the Aliens creepy.
Ok I'll make my comments brief...
Overall, I liked them a lot!
But...
- The Ricky-Dallas drama ...lame..
- Dallas using the Plasma canon...lame
- National Guard scene awesome!! but the cuts indoors-outdoors terrible editing...
- Pool scene, OK, I like the mood and lighting, characters lame.
- Hive Scene, awesome!! but aliens are useless...
- Sewer scene, brilliant!! Chet kicks ass but aliens are useless again...
I like the action scenes a lot, the fights look a lot nicer than AVP,
but it sucks that the Aliens are watered down versions...but we already
knew that from the pics...
I still can't wait to see it though...!! ;D
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 21, 2007, 02:25:10 PM
Oh sorry for my ignorance, I didn't realise that what I thought was luck was actually Wolf manipulating midi-chlorians and weilding The Force. He must have a higher count thank master Yoda!
I feel your pain, I've made the same error countless times...
This movie will probably be a good movie...now a perfect alien movie no but a good movie
No one is asking for a perfect Alien movie... but something that doesn't resemble Predator 3 would be a good start.
atually alot of people want a perfect alien movie...
but, so far its not that bad in my oppion, its border line for me. the aliens at least get to kill alot of people
Quote from: Major Alan Schaefer on Dec 21, 2007, 02:51:33 PM
This movie will probably be a good movie...now a perfect alien movie no but a good movie
Seriously doubt it. Alien fans can bitch but i as a predator fan think that the predators are also portrayed pretty uncreative, Wolf is ok but the homeworld and the ship...sigh
Not to mention the bad filmmaking and i don't like overtly sick scenes either. Hardcore bloody scenes are fine but killing pregnant women, no sorry >:(.
Those were old clips and all shown at giga a couple of days ago.... the fight scenes are so great done, really great.
Finally an interesting avp movie, i will so love this movie.
To be honest the action scenes remind me a lof of Terminator 3, which isn't a good thing. I wonder how many times we're going to see the Predator or an Alien thrown through a wall?
i couldn't SEE anything
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 21, 2007, 03:17:46 PM
To be honest the action scenes remind me a lof of Terminator 3, which isn't a good thing. I wonder how many times we're going to see the Predator or an Alien thrown through a wall?
I have my money on 6 times total... :)
First clip reminded me so much of ALIENS :)
Well done.
Third clip was cool as hell, But once again. Whats up with the PREDATOR ROARING WITH HIS MASK ON? a la Celtic >:(
I can hardly see anything. Whoever released those vids whether it be FOX or the Brothers, are trying to keep a bit of it secret, I guess. Soo dark.
What's with the temp music from Predator and Aliens on all the clips? In the German ones they have the actual movie's music in the clips.
Ahh...only 4 more days left ;). Gotta come up with an excuse to leave the in-laws on Christmas for a few hours so I can go check it out.
The clips don't look that dark in the Giga.de special in the other thread.
Dallas Plasmacaster usage made my toes curl. That scene sux shit! The skip button will be pressed everytime. Everything else is straight though. But the A2 homage in the National Gaurd scene should've been saved for AVP 3 imo.
Quote from: Demonio Cazador on Dec 21, 2007, 02:27:03 PM
Ok I'll make my comments brief...
Overall, I liked them a lot!
But...
- The Ricky-Dallas drama ...lame..
- Dallas using the Plasma canon...lame
- National Guard scene awesome!! but the cuts indoors-outdoors terrible editing...
- Pool scene, OK, I like the mood and lighting, characters lame.
- Hive Scene, awesome!! but aliens are useless...
- Sewer scene, brilliant!! Chet kicks ass but aliens are useless again...
I like the action scenes a lot, the fights look a lot nicer than AVP,
but it sucks that the Aliens are watered down versions...but we already
knew that from the pics...
I still can't wait to see it though...!! ;D
whats wrong with Dallas using the plasma canon, in p2 glover used the smart disc and the spear.
A monkey could use a spear...
And the cannon has a trigger...not rocket science. I don't mind him using it. I like it.
Quotein p2 glover used the smart disc and the spear.
Not quite the same since Harrigan only used the disc as a melee weapon.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 21, 2007, 06:47:31 PM
And the cannon has a trigger...not rocket science. I don't mind him using it. I like it.
I thought you cock it like a shotgun, and the symbols light up until it shoots, no trigger.
Well he definitely cocks it but there's gotta be a trigger mechanism. There was on the Sideshow prop.
Woot!!!! 5000
I don't remember seeing a trigger.
Pic?
Just saw all the clips. The Sewer, Hive and National Gaurd Attacks are pretty impressive, dark, fast and brutal. 10/10 8)
Quote from: War Wager on Dec 21, 2007, 06:57:54 PM
Just saw all the clips. The Sewer, Hive and National Gaurd Attacks are pretty impressive, dark, fast and brutal. 10/10 8)
I couldn't see shit......
It was like looking a black moving wall :(
when you see the hive-battle, you could see wolf shooting with one hand, if there is no trigger, then would must use two hands... so there must be something like a trigger...
^^but i didnt see it, too
Wolf would just cock it and wait until it goes off.
Wait, that didn't sound right...
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 21, 2007, 06:55:59 PM
I don't remember seeing a trigger.
Pic?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sideshowtoy.com%2Fmas_assets%2Fjpg%2F2951_press02-001.jpg&hash=9be2c0e68a8976fff34d3763f8c0ae05c475e6a1)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sideshowtoy.com%2Fmas_assets%2Fjpg%2F2951_press06-001.jpg&hash=6f04d399bab88c1384f3f42b9ef3aef0fd940cd3)
See it? The brown thing.
That would have to be the most impractical way to fire a gun ever. What happens if you cocked it but your target moves at the last minute or takes cover? The gun fires and you have to cock it again and wait for it to charge? I hope to God there was more thought put into it than that.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 21, 2007, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 21, 2007, 06:55:59 PM
I don't remember seeing a trigger.
Pic?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sideshowtoy.com%2Fmas_assets%2Fjpg%2F2951_press02-001.jpg&hash=9be2c0e68a8976fff34d3763f8c0ae05c475e6a1)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sideshowtoy.com%2Fmas_assets%2Fjpg%2F2951_press06-001.jpg&hash=6f04d399bab88c1384f3f42b9ef3aef0fd940cd3)
See it? The brown thing.
what exactly? ???
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2FCorpral_Hicks%2Ftrigger.jpg&hash=14e9ce37af72d2acb8e25b77d0afe4e58b89b993)
Just took this from the 360 degrees thing.
Gotcha.
We all see it now?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 21, 2007, 07:05:07 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v130/Corpral_Hicks/trigger.jpg
Just took this from the 360 degrees thing.
ahh yeah... i just loked at the lower side^^
thx
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 21, 2007, 07:01:39 PM
Wolf would just cock it and wait until it goes off.
I'm the same way.
I thought the cannon would just fire automatically at an enemy, all Dallas would need to do is aim it.
These clips arent doing much for me- the acting is sub par in all of them, and the Aliens have never looked like men in suits as much as they do here. Whilst my opinion has shifted from negative to positive, it's definitely now negative and will remain that way.
This isn't looking like much of a step up from AvP at all. A better looking Predator, slightly better action, a slighty more appropriate tone, some unconvincing gore, awful Aliens on earth concept and I've yet to hear ONE decent exchange of dialogue between two characters.
The Alien and The Predator, whilst they have appeared in movies which were simply okay (A:R and Predator 2) both series were always treated with some respect. However, it has been only with the AVP movies that they have appeared in a BAD movie, and it's a trend which seems to continue with AVP2.It's time for Fox to abandon the gravy train before these once great Hollywood monsters are tarnished forever.
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 21, 2007, 07:22:42 PM
These clips arent doing much for me- the acting is sub par in all of them, and the Aliens have never looked like men in suits as much as they do here. Whilst my opinion has shifted from negative to positive, it's definitely now negative and will remain that way.
This isn't looking like much of a step up from AvP at all. A better looking Predator, slightly better action, a slighty more appropriate tone, some unconvincing gore, awful Aliens on earth concept and I've yet to hear ONE decent exchange of dialogue between two characters. It's time for Fox to abandon the gravy train before these once great Hollywood monsters are tarnished forever.
took the words right out of my mouth. colin had reasurred me that the aliens get portrayed correctly and i was pretty happy with what i had been seeing until i saw the clips . :( they look absolutly terrible.
like uwe bole terrible.
If it were Uwe Boll terrible, I wouldn't be able to watch it.
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 21, 2007, 07:29:19 PM
If it were Uwe Boll terrible, I wouldn't be able to watch it.
how can you watch it then? they are exactly the kind of crap that was in blood rayne.
Alone is the Dark was much worse than this, MUCH worse.
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 21, 2007, 07:31:42 PM
Alone is the Dark was much worse than this, MUCH worse.
well watch blood ranye and tell you dont get the same
exact vibe as these clips give off.
I still fail to understand how anyone can form a good or negative opinion on these clips when they're so insanely dark. Seriously Fox might as well just released audio clips instead. Those poor quality bootleg clips that were shown couple days back were even clearer.
Glad to see that everyone isn't in complete denial - this movie looks cheap and horrible. It shouldn't have been made.
It's an indicator of where were headed when they're trying to tie this dross in as a "prequel" to a sci-fi classic.
I dont know whats the problem with the aliens looking "Cheap".
Besides that, anything looks better then the alien in the original hanging outside the space ship.
That was one split second in a movie made some 28 years ago. Hardly fair.
The Alien in that movie is infinitely more convincing than anything seen in AvP2- virtually every scene of the Alien in the new clips is shot in such a way that it looks like a man in a suit. The movement is incredibly clunky and obviously human.
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 21, 2007, 07:37:45 PM
Glad to see that everyone isn't in complete denial - this movie looks cheap and horrible. It shouldn't have been made.
It's an indicator of where were headed when they're trying to tie this dross in as a "prequel" to a sci-fi classic.
That maybe true, but I'm not gonna judge until i see it on the big screen in details.
Quote from: Procurator on Dec 21, 2007, 07:44:21 PM
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 21, 2007, 07:37:45 PM
Glad to see that everyone isn't in complete denial - this movie looks cheap and horrible. It shouldn't have been made.
It's an indicator of where were headed when they're trying to tie this dross in as a "prequel" to a sci-fi classic.
That maybe true, but I'm not gonna judge until i see it on the big screen in details.
Right, and not the overly dark and blurry clips with temp sound effects and music.
Well I'm going by the age old rule....
if it looks like shit and it smells like shit, theres no need to taste it to realise that it most likely IS shit.
but I agree- if you're masochistic, it will obviously be a little more enjoyable in the cinema.
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 21, 2007, 07:46:41 PM
Well I'm going by the age old rule....
if it looks like shit and it smells like shit, theres no need to taste it to realise that its most likely IS shit.
Have fun sitting here, and i´m gonna have fun in the theater. 8) ;)
Quote from: jimmylace on Dec 21, 2007, 07:46:41 PM
Well I'm going by the age old rule....
if it looks like shit and it smells like shit, theres no need to taste it to realise that its most likely IS shit.
Alright to you it's shit, we get it already. So why go to see shit, right? Just don't go than. You just don't get how much details can change a movie. I'm not saying i have high hopes, but I'm willing to give it a shot.
I do. The movie will naturally be a more enjoyable experience in the cinema- I agree with that.
But I've gone through the ups and downs like every other fan, and at this point I feel the AvP movies have burned me enough. I'm not overly keen on giving Fox more money- I'll download the torrent.
If on the off-chance it turns out to be the movie I've wanted to see all these years (which I doubt) Ill go see it in the cinema too.
is it possible 2 mak thos clips lighter?, hopefully the movie isnt that dark in theaters
It won't let me see the videos, I need flash v4, and when I try to install it, it says an error, and says please try again.
The clips are VERY edited. It is easy to tell.
For one thing, no F- You then Blam. Just blam.
Back on topic, those clips are mean as, and yes, the acting is as bad as a bunch of indermediate students doing a play, and just reading the lines off. And god, please when I see the film, make the lighting be better than those clips. Its just to damn dark to see much.
those clips were horrible.
-every scene with an alien looks more and more like a man in a suit. goddamn ADI sucks...
-"get to the chopper!" horribly delivered. did they actually think this was a good idea? corny.
- gotta love how the aliens are completely useless and have to have that ugly-ass predalien to save them ;D
- why doesn't dallas get acid all over him when the hunter loses an arm? and why is the alien staring at him like an idiot?
- and i thought alien vs hunter looked bad, this doesn't look much better..jesus :(
Quote- gotta love how the aliens are completely useless and have to have that ugly-ass predalien to save them
Aliens: Wahh! We need help!
PredAlien: Don't worry, kids! I'm here to save-
Aliens: OMIGOD! IT'S A HIDEOUS MONSTER!
Quote from: Spaghetti on Dec 21, 2007, 10:49:50 PM
those clips were horrible.
-every scene with an alien looks more and more like a man in a suit. goddamn ADI sucks...
-"get to the chopper!" horribly delivered. did they actually think this was a good idea? corny.
- gotta love how the aliens are completely useless and have to have that ugly-ass predalien to save them ;D
- why doesn't dallas get acid all over him when the hunter loses an arm? and why is the alien staring at him like an idiot?
- and i thought alien vs hunter looked bad, this doesn't look much better..jesus :(
I agree. horrible.
Quote from: Spaghetti on Dec 21, 2007, 10:49:50 PM
-every scene with an alien looks more and more like a man in a suit. goddamn ADI sucks...
Uh-uh! The shot of a flying torso didn't look like a man in a suit ;D
Quote from: RabidBadger on Dec 21, 2007, 01:50:29 PM
There actually is a comic where a Pred goes hand-to-hand with a mother Alaskan brown bear without any weapon other than his wristblades.
The Pred holds his own on his feet. Momma eventually knocks him off a cliff, but he is strong enough to stand her up without being ripped apart or overpowered.
I would really want to see the comic for myself, but sadly... I don't have it on me.
Anyways, I think the Predator will win against grizzly bears due to the fact that it is stronger and faster than the Earth's beings.
Quote from: Clyde Wyman on Dec 22, 2007, 12:50:50 PM
Quote from: RabidBadger on Dec 21, 2007, 01:50:29 PM
There actually is a comic where a Pred goes hand-to-hand with a mother Alaskan brown bear without any weapon other than his wristblades.
The Pred holds his own on his feet. Momma eventually knocks him off a cliff, but he is strong enough to stand her up without being ripped apart or overpowered.
I would really want to see the comic for myself, but sadly... I don't have it on me.
Anyways, I think the Predator will win against grizzly bears due to the fact that it is stronger and faster than the Earth's beings.
Bears are pure slod muscle, but preds are unbelievebly strong too, hard to say who would win.....
Quote from: Optimus Prime on Dec 22, 2007, 12:53:56 PM
Bears are pure slod muscle, but preds are unbelievebly strong too, hard to say who would win.....
Or both would die, I guess... The bears use their sharp jaws to munch of the Predator and green florescent blood pours out from the strong bite marks while the Predator uses it's wristblades to stab through the bear's chin just like what Wolf Predator did to Chet.
Dallas should've missed almost every shot. Yea, all he has to do is aim and pull the trigger, but actually hitting the target takes alot of skill. Anyone who's been target practicing knows that. It's alot harder than it looks.
Damn, they deleted my awesome quote...
Yes...inquiring minds want to know... :P
Quote from: Gates on Dec 22, 2007, 06:38:14 PM
Yes...inquiring minds want to know... :P
Well duh! :D :P
No...I mean I want to know as well... :D
I owned a bunch of Predator fanboys. Gates should remember.
OMG! preadator is so cool and alien is so boruing. I luv watcing things blow up, predator is awesomness and alien sucks. LOL!!!1
And then some fanboy says, "Ridley Scott is a hack!"
My response:
At least Scott isn't 1) in jail and 2) didn't direct Rollerball.
Oh sh!t...you know what? I do...now that you mentioned it I had a post here too... ;D
Quote from: Yellow Alien on Dec 22, 2007, 06:42:56 PM
I owned a bunch of Predator fanboys. Gates should remember.
OMG! preadator is so cool and alien is so boruing. I luv watcing things blow up, predator is awesomness and alien sucks. LOL!!!1
Multi headshot! WOOO!!!
after watching those clips. im pretty hyped for the movie, though dissappointed with said run time.
Those clips were great, very atmospheric, thanks to the aliens music.
That music gives me the creeps and works very well in the dark "lets shit our pants its the aliens" setting
i love the lighting.
i dont get why everyones complaining, those clips looked really kick ass, and i didnt think the aliens looked like guys in suits.
if you want an alien scene where it looks like a guy in a suit.
go watch alien 1, when its "hanging" in space by the wire.
Problem is that music isn't going to be in the full movie.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Dec 22, 2007, 07:00:05 PM
Problem is that music isn't going to be in the full movie.
no f**king way?
that sucks major balls because that music works so well.
Brian's music sounds the same anyway. Why would you want recycled tracks from Aliens and Predator? I personally hated hearing James Horner's score playing while whiny teenagers run away.
A lot of these released clips are edited down, ergo they can't use their proper score. It would make the cuts even more jerky if the music was jumping around all over the place so I guess they copy/pasted previous scores in their place. The scene with the national guard has it's own theme that's around 5 minutes long, it's mostly inspired by Aliens but has hints of Alien Ressurection in there.