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Title: Predator is showing its age
Post by: gameoverman on Apr 04, 2007, 07:27:30 AM
I'm watching Predator right now - and the film looks so grainy, especially in the beginning, especially when I resize it to fit my 19" inch LCD monitor.  Ok, I know this movie is 20 years old, but compared to Alien (1979) it looks nowhere near as good. 

The film needs a cleanup - a digital remaster in my opinion.
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: SiL on Apr 04, 2007, 07:33:53 AM
Yeah, the grain is terrible. I noticed the same thing on Aliens, too.
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: War Wager on Apr 04, 2007, 11:41:20 AM
You'd think they would have sorted that out when they released them on DVD...
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: Gangster Predator on Apr 05, 2007, 06:09:48 AM
yeah I noticed that too. Not only in the predator but in other movies also.
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: SM on Apr 05, 2007, 06:53:22 AM
Dunno about Predator but I think they've upgraded Aliens about as far as it can be upgraded.

Maybe with advances in technology they'll be able to do more with it in future.  Mind you, the graininess does suit Aliens because it's a dark flick in terms of tone and colours (apart from some of the opening Gateway stuff).  Predator is a lot more green with it's setting so the grain may not suit it so much.
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: gameoverman on Jun 10, 2007, 12:05:46 AM
Cameron said on the commentary that it was because of the film stock they were using.
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: Kimarhi on Jun 10, 2007, 01:11:56 AM
Taking the grain out of Aliens would be like taking the grain out of 28 days later wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: gameoverman on Jun 10, 2007, 08:34:03 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Jun 10, 2007, 01:11:56 AM
Taking the grain out of Aliens would be like taking the grain out of 28 days later wouldn't it?

28 Days Later didn't have grain... but I still see the point. 

I don't mind Aliens so much because there is hardly any film artefacts (dust, deteriotation, etc) in it.  It's been cleaned up pretty well. 

Predator however still shows a lot of grain (it's the grainest out of all of them).
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: Kimarhi on Jun 10, 2007, 05:15:31 PM
They shot 28 Days Later on (whatever news reel footage) is called.  It definately has a grainy look.
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: gameoverman on Jun 11, 2007, 01:20:49 AM
I guess it depends on what format they film it on, as that would be the director's intention.  But when it shows dust, hairs, black spots and deteriotation that is because of lack of care.  They just probably left it in the film vault.
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: Kimarhi on Jun 11, 2007, 01:27:47 AM
Okay, we were talking about different things.

They filmed 28 days later on digital camera.  It has an unfocused, pixelated look like Aliens does (because back in the day, digital filming techniques were used alot more).  This is what I thought you were talking about.

Not the spots and all that jazz.  My mistake.
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: SiL on Jun 11, 2007, 01:30:48 AM
28 Days has the looks cos it was shot on digital. Aliens has the look cos the stock was crap.
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: gameoverman on Jun 11, 2007, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Jun 11, 2007, 01:27:47 AM
Okay, we were talking about different things.

They filmed 28 days later on digital camera.  It has an unfocused, pixelated look like Aliens does (because back in the day, digital filming techniques were used alot more).  This is what I thought you were talking about.

Not the spots and all that jazz.  My mistake.

Watch the beginning of Predator, that's what I mean.
Title: Re: Predator is showing its age
Post by: stickaround on Jun 11, 2007, 11:52:20 PM
Doesn't take anything away from it being a classic and the dvd is a hell of alot better than the vhs p&s version !!