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Posted by Huggs
 - Aug 29, 2019, 04:17:37 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Aug 29, 2019, 03:38:13 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 29, 2019, 02:13:24 AM
It needed to fail with critics and fans and not make much money.

:laugh:

Zing!  Well said.

Retcon it.

Just because they make another movie doesn't mean it ain't still the true and holy gospel.



That's revisionist cinematography.



Alien 3 still loves you.

;D
Posted by Perfect-Organism
 - Aug 29, 2019, 03:38:13 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 29, 2019, 02:13:24 AM
It needed to fail with critics and fans and not make much money.

:laugh:

Zing!  Well said.

Retcon it.
Posted by Samhain13
 - Aug 29, 2019, 02:55:34 AM
It needed ACM to fix it.
Posted by Huggs
 - Aug 29, 2019, 02:46:30 AM
See? There was a plan all along.
Posted by Local Trouble
 - Aug 29, 2019, 02:16:33 AM
And then it needed an extended cut.
Posted by SM
 - Aug 29, 2019, 02:13:24 AM
It needed to fail with critics and fans and not make much money.
Posted by Huggs
 - Aug 29, 2019, 12:21:28 AM
It might not be what people wanted. But it's what Alien needed.
Posted by PsyKore
 - Aug 24, 2019, 10:15:47 AM
Life isn't nice and neither is Alien 3. F**king love that movie. ;D
Posted by Huggs
 - Aug 21, 2019, 12:15:44 AM
Oh I was just throwing that out there for the heck of it.
Posted by Kimarhi
 - Aug 21, 2019, 12:14:30 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Aug 20, 2019, 11:34:44 PM
The place was about to go nuclear.

There'd be no evidence left.

Not what I'm saying.  Not arguing he could've got away with it.  Arguing that he wasn't as clean cut good guy as he's often remembered as.
Posted by Perfect-Organism
 - Aug 20, 2019, 11:46:37 PM
Quote from: TC on Aug 20, 2019, 03:59:02 AM
Perfect-Organism says Hicks was quiet and reserved, but that in no way says he was a pacifist. I would also say quiet and reserved (at the start) , but also reluctant, as in, reluctant for leadership or responsibility. That bit where Ripley points out to Burke that Hicks is the successor in the chain of command, and Hicks's shoulders slump and he sighs so heavily - priceless!

I've always imagined him as coasting through his time, lack of ambition holding him back from further promotion. Ricco Ross says after 2weeks of James Remar he could barely recognise Hicks in what Biehn was doing with the character. Remar was forthright and dominant; Biehn was low key  and softly spoken, and it took Ross a while to understand Biehn's acting choices and overall interpretation. I think we lucked out there.

TC

You got it.  Hicks was played brilliantly by Biehn.  Literally one of the best action characters I've seen.  He has no patience for BS.  Is so at ease with himself he can fall asleep during a space drop, yet that doesn't mean he is incompetent.  He always rises to the occasion without any Mach bravado.  Just all serious.  All business.  There are so many layers to the character and to Biehn's performance.  You see it furthered in Coffey in the Abyss, but after that, he never really gets a chance to shine in a big role.  It really was a terrible loss all around that Biehn didn't get a chance to reprise his role.  Hopefully that chance will come soon.
Posted by Huggs
 - Aug 20, 2019, 11:34:44 PM
The place was about to go nuclear.

There'd be no evidence left.
Posted by Kimarhi
 - Aug 20, 2019, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: razeak on Aug 20, 2019, 06:47:12 PM
There are  the Geneva Conventions, and then there are situations where your squad got decimated light years away from support, and you have dozens of nightmare creatures wanting to snack on you and then you have a saboteur to boot. Survival will trump the rules when you are in extenuating circumstances. From Hicks POV, Burke might as well have been pointing a gun at him and the others.

I don't disagree, but it's not Captain America approved.
Posted by razeak
 - Aug 20, 2019, 06:47:12 PM
There are  the Geneva Conventions, and then there are situations where your squad got decimated light years away from support, and you have dozens of nightmare creatures wanting to snack on you and then you have a saboteur to boot. Survival will trump the rules when you are in extenuating circumstances. From Hicks POV, Burke might as well have been pointing a gun at him and the others.
Posted by SM
 - Aug 20, 2019, 04:24:10 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Aug 20, 2019, 03:21:04 AM
Quote from: SM on Aug 20, 2019, 02:28:55 AM
His what now?

His most base instinct was to waste Burke.  Which he would've done had Ripley not been around. 


Not exactly Geneva convention approved.

Oh, right.

Yeah probably.
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