Quote from: SM on Mar 15, 2019, 11:05:17 AMBurke was likely the only Company suit at the inquest.
Quote from: SM on Mar 15, 2019, 11:05:17 AMQuote from: Kimarhi on Mar 15, 2019, 10:57:35 AMQuote from: oduodu on Mar 15, 2019, 04:30:31 AMQuote from: Kimarhi on Mar 15, 2019, 02:56:54 AM
All these have been discussed before.
Cameron has said that he wanted the Marines to be like drafted infantry for the Vietnam war. Wielding technically superior gear but in a battle they wanted no part of against an enemy with more drive than they had.
The Gorman being influenced by Burke because he's young and green has been theorized as well.
I actually think Apone as the senior NCO should've been in his ear more to help him make better decisions.
so it was just a cultural reference at the current time ? nothing more? was it not supposed to indicate some kind "on purpose" sending the people an asshole so that they may die a possible cop out way to say well the guy in charge messed up not our fault. like in alien where they on pupose sent innocent people to investigate an organism that was supposed to be secured no matter the cost to the crew or they themselves be lost. ? Did alien the movie have anything to do with Cameron's decision to add this to the story?
There was no overall conspiracy that went past Burke. The company knew about the Alien back when Ripley was at her inquest. Burke was the only one of the suits that took a chance she might've been telling the truth.
He had enough sway, supposedly, to influence Gorman's involvement.
But most LTs are the privates of the officer corps. With that rank he wouldn't be swimming in experience anyways. That's why even though senior NCOs are outranked by an LT, those same NCOs help plan and guide and oversee the mission.
Burke was likely the only Company suit at the inquest.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 15, 2019, 10:57:35 AMQuote from: oduodu on Mar 15, 2019, 04:30:31 AMQuote from: Kimarhi on Mar 15, 2019, 02:56:54 AM
All these have been discussed before.
Cameron has said that he wanted the Marines to be like drafted infantry for the Vietnam war. Wielding technically superior gear but in a battle they wanted no part of against an enemy with more drive than they had.
The Gorman being influenced by Burke because he's young and green has been theorized as well.
I actually think Apone as the senior NCO should've been in his ear more to help him make better decisions.
so it was just a cultural reference at the current time ? nothing more? was it not supposed to indicate some kind "on purpose" sending the people an asshole so that they may die a possible cop out way to say well the guy in charge messed up not our fault. like in alien where they on pupose sent innocent people to investigate an organism that was supposed to be secured no matter the cost to the crew or they themselves be lost. ? Did alien the movie have anything to do with Cameron's decision to add this to the story?
There was no overall conspiracy that went past Burke. The company knew about the Alien back when Ripley was at her inquest. Burke was the only one of the suits that took a chance she might've been telling the truth.
He had enough sway, supposedly, to influence Gorman's involvement.
But most LTs are the privates of the officer corps. With that rank he wouldn't be swimming in experience anyways. That's why even though senior NCOs are outranked by an LT, those same NCOs help plan and guide and oversee the mission.
Quote from: oduodu on Mar 15, 2019, 04:30:31 AMQuote from: Kimarhi on Mar 15, 2019, 02:56:54 AM
All these have been discussed before.
Cameron has said that he wanted the Marines to be like drafted infantry for the Vietnam war. Wielding technically superior gear but in a battle they wanted no part of against an enemy with more drive than they had.
The Gorman being influenced by Burke because he's young and green has been theorized as well.
I actually think Apone as the senior NCO should've been in his ear more to help him make better decisions.
so it was just a cultural reference at the current time ? nothing more? was it not supposed to indicate some kind "on purpose" sending the people an asshole so that they may die a possible cop out way to say well the guy in charge messed up not our fault. like in alien where they on pupose sent innocent people to investigate an organism that was supposed to be secured no matter the cost to the crew or they themselves be lost. ? Did alien the movie have anything to do with Cameron's decision to add this to the story?
Quote from: Kimarhi on Mar 15, 2019, 02:56:54 AM
All these have been discussed before.
Cameron has said that he wanted the Marines to be like drafted infantry for the Vietnam war. Wielding technically superior gear but in a battle they wanted no part of against an enemy with more drive than they had.
The Gorman being influenced by Burke because he's young and green has been theorized as well.
I actually think Apone as the senior NCO should've been in his ear more to help him make better decisions.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Feb 15, 2018, 11:50:03 AM
It's not about believing Ripley, it's about Gorman's bad judgment on everything. He then sent his marines into the hive without their pulse rifles even after they had PROOF that Ripley was telling the truth.