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Posted by The Old One
 - Apr 08, 2019, 06:08:34 PM
@OP, instantly.
Posted by Huggs
 - Apr 07, 2019, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: SM on Feb 14, 2019, 06:15:47 AM
Quote from: CelticP on Feb 14, 2019, 05:50:57 AM
Oram's biggest mistake is that he hadn't seen the other films in the series. If he did he would know whats up.

All Bible and no horror movies makes Chris a dead boy.

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Posted by The Old One
 - Apr 07, 2019, 08:24:24 PM
Posted by SM
 - Mar 18, 2019, 09:23:32 PM
The two examples aren't comparing apples with apples though.
Posted by Kradan
 - Mar 18, 2019, 07:21:16 PM
I like your thoughts actually. I think that people have habbit to consider old movies from their childhood as flawless unbeatable masterpieces.
Posted by oduodu
 - Mar 16, 2019, 10:35:53 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 13, 2019, 07:19:56 PM
Dallas ordered the door be opened (in defiance of quarantine protocols - and balled Ripley out for not complying; supported by Lambert) and that they take off without completing repairs.

He was complicit.


I am saying whatever Dallas did Ash was supposed to listen to Ripley.  Its the second time that happened . When mother indicated that the signal was a warning he defied her when she wanted someone to go and warn Dallas and co. If he had listened they would not have had this  problem . I would assume that warning crew of a possible threat must be a priority.  just saying.

OK maybe getting face hugged was still a possibility.


Sorry the statement was actually directed not really at SM but at that post in which was the answer accepted by all on the issue of "letting people aboard" as an act of stupidity answered by SM (and quite correctly) that Dallas was implicit . My point is that should never have happened based on standard operating procedure. So Ash by and large in his capacity as a an agent of the company was responsible in two occasions for letting things happened which shouldn't have, The first setting up the second to a degree. Hence no stupidity. They were coerced by Ash who had a mandate to full fill. Alien is  a well written movie.

I don't understand the whole helmet removal issue in Prometheus. Before they removed there helmets Holloway asks David if something is generating  an atmosphere and he replies "yes" or "correct". Supposedly David follows Asimov's 3 robot laws like Bishop does. Then someone remarks "cleaner than earth's actually" and David doesn't refute it. When they get to ampule room Shaw clearly tells David not to open the ampule room as they don't know what is is on the rather side. He clearly ignores her and says"sorry" in a sort of "oops my mistake" sarcastic way. Now they are helmetless in a possibly infected room.

What's my point? In both Alien and Prometheus a compromised android sets up at least two events that leads to people being infected. Why is it stupidity in Prometheus and not Alien? Everybody expects the android to protect them. its 2093 isn't it?

as for other issues of stupidity ..............nudge nudge   wink wink
Posted by SiL
 - Mar 16, 2019, 10:30:01 AM
What's that in response to ???
Posted by oduodu
 - Mar 16, 2019, 10:15:47 AM
Remember Ripley visiting Ash telling him that while Dallas is off ship the next person in command is in command (which happened to be her ) and that was standard practice which means Dallas  (albeit the Capitan) was not in charge was allowed aboard the ship by Ash who was supposed to following standard operating manual. Dallas in the airlock does not equate back in the ship in charge. He first had to be cleared of infection . This is to ensure that the person making that decision is not emotionally compromised and to ensure the safety of the crew .

Ripley clearly stated that she couldn't authorise such an action

That's the way i understand it.

As for stupidity -----scripts---------- nudge nudge wink wink .....................  ah never mind......
Posted by The Old One
 - Mar 07, 2019, 09:05:16 AM
Poor Chris Oram. ):
Posted by SM
 - Feb 14, 2019, 06:15:47 AM
Quote from: CelticP on Feb 14, 2019, 05:50:57 AM
Oram's biggest mistake is that he hadn't seen the other films in the series. If he did he would know whats up.

All Bible and no horror movies makes Chris a dead boy.
Posted by Highland
 - Feb 14, 2019, 06:14:21 AM
It's like seeing your wife killed by a shark, then seeing more sharks as you reach safety, then meeting a guy that's been experimenting on making other sharks. Then that guy says, come for a swim, we will talk about what I been doing.....
Posted by CelticP
 - Feb 14, 2019, 05:50:57 AM
Oram's biggest mistake is that he hadn't seen the other films in the series. If he did he would know whats up.
Posted by Highland
 - Feb 14, 2019, 01:41:44 AM
The mask thing doesn't bother me, It just wouldn't be an enjoyable viewing experience watching people in space helmets and that's enough for me to bypass anything to do with that.

The Oram thing though...he walks right through the beastery with an Egg in it that shows the facehugger inside, Davids telling him he's been making things, there's things on the desk, he's seen the things. It's not Kane at all, but that's the common comparison.

Really needed David to make him do it and not Oram be a turd... OR put the scene in where David floats his head above the egg.
Posted by Huggs
 - Feb 14, 2019, 12:03:18 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 13, 2019, 10:07:34 PM
Is book smart not learnng from what's written in a book?

No.

It's knowing what's in a book before you read it.  ;D
Posted by SM
 - Feb 13, 2019, 11:08:03 PM
I kinda was.

To be honest I'm not sure what you were getting at with the book smart vs. street smart thing.
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