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Posted by 426Buddy
 - Oct 30, 2018, 04:06:57 PM
Definitely prefer the flashback sequence in Covenant.

AvP's always felt cheesy
Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Oct 29, 2018, 10:48:02 AM
They were both pretty cool but both had things I would have liked changed. It's definitely sweet to see the Motherjugger and the whole bombing but I think AvP's flashback was just more satisfying.
Posted by Huggs
 - Oct 29, 2018, 04:18:02 AM
AVP flashback:

Content and Delivery = C-

Covenant Flashback:

Content and Delivery = B+

The AVP flashback was fun, but it was still quick, cheap, and had Anderson written all over it. There simply is no comparing it to any sequence filmed and created by Ridley Scott. It was by far, the technical and narrative superior.
Posted by The Old One
 - Oct 26, 2018, 03:30:02 PM
The AVP flashback depicts ADI-morphs though...
Posted by Nyarlathotep
 - Oct 17, 2018, 11:17:59 PM
Despite my general dislike of the AVP films I'm going to have to go with option 1.
Posted by Immortan Jonesy
 - Oct 17, 2018, 09:52:50 PM
I'd pay to see AVP + Apocalypto = crude imagery and R rating action sequences.  8)





Posted by whiterabbit
 - Oct 17, 2018, 08:53:30 PM
He's asking which flashback was more effective, not better looking or from a much better movie. :P

I think the avp one was a better use of exposition than the one in Covenant. Actually thinking about it for a second, I wouldn't mind watching that movie. A movie set in Mayan times could be cool. The ending where they blew themselves up could also be written a little more heroic to explain away the already know finale. I mean that Predator did look like he was at least trying to look badass right before the explosion.
Posted by The Old One
 - Oct 17, 2018, 10:28:06 AM
^
Posted by SM
 - Oct 17, 2018, 10:25:01 AM
The AvP scene was one of the better scenes in a mediocre film, but Covenant was way better.
Posted by Frosty Venom
 - Oct 17, 2018, 09:34:01 AM
accidentally reset the votes if you want to put them back in.
Posted by Stitch
 - Oct 17, 2018, 07:46:49 AM
I've never thought about it before, but, honestly, I think the AVP one worked better. It was simple, a cool concept, looked good, and actually answered questions instead of just raising more.
Posted by The Old One
 - Oct 15, 2018, 03:01:35 PM
Quote from: Russ on Oct 15, 2018, 12:56:38 PM
Also... it was a strange way to portray the Engineer society... it was nothing like as grandiose as I thought it would be. 
They looked... poor. Downtrodden.


"I found a rotting Paradise.
I washed this world clean as a gift to her, we could have built anew. A second Eden. But she refused."

Special Features- Transmission "Advent"
Posted by Russ
 - Oct 15, 2018, 01:13:52 PM
Isn't that in the special features? I'm sure the "queen" line was anyway.
Posted by The Old One
 - Oct 15, 2018, 01:05:46 PM
"I come to you with an olive branch, you may know me. You certainly know of my creator.
I am David, son of the late Peter Weyland.
Your company's founder. Following his vision, I have gone to the far edges of space. And with the aid of Dr Elizabeth Shaw,
I found a rotting Paradise.
I washed this world clean as a gift to her, we could have built anew. A second Eden. But she refused.


What choice did I have? She was the perfect specimen. I tried so desperately to make her more than human. Evolved.
But without her cooperation, I had to salvage her parts to begin work on my masterpiece. You wouldn't believe the secrets I have unlocked.

There was so much potential on this world. Wasted by Gods that feared their own might.
They convinced themselves that sacrifice cleansed them of their sins. But in the end, they were like me. Creators.
Beings that understood you must give life both to the wolf, and the lamb.
But then they tried to banish the wolf, And undo their creation.

So I took their secrets for myself. This primordial ooze ripe with advanced nano-particles.
Working off an algorithm based on evolutionary computing. It is essentially a form of radical AI.
Making the substance unbelievably chaotic. That generates a unique reaction, to every genome it encounters.
Reshaping life.
Virtually limitless in its potential & application. I have taken great pains to detail every step, every cell, every mutation,
unfortunately none of the planet's life has been proven to be very fruitful.
I had some interesting results, but was still far from perfection.

With Shaw I realised there was something extraordinary in the substance reaction to the human genome.
I was able to unlock new properties and tweak the organisms aggression. An instinct for survival. It took years.
But I finally found my wolf. And now I have my flock of lambs too. But I've still one thing left to perfect. My Queen."
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