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Posted by Immortan Jonesy
 - Apr 22, 2020, 05:54:01 PM
Indeed. Prometheus wants to be many things without succeeding sometimes: an epic space opera, a philosophical drama that tries to amaze you with its sometimes wonderfull soundtrack (more like Superman / Strar Trek music) and existential themes, a monster movie, etc.

Still the climax and ending was epic IMO. But yes, sometimes less is more and Covenant knows what it is.

I think someone commented here on the forums some time ago (I'm paraphrasing here): it's like Ridley had a lot to say with Prometheus so he just unleashed all of his ideas in one single story.
Posted by 426Buddy
 - Apr 22, 2020, 01:22:18 PM
I have always found Prometheus to be very unsatisfying to watch. The story and how it unfolds, the dialogue, and the characters always frustrate me. The score and tone of the film always bother me too. It wants to be epic, uplifting, and hopeful but it doesn't mesh with the story playing out. I think the trailer for Prometheus conveys the visceral tone that I was expecting/hoping for.

It is a beautiful film though with some great bits and pieces.


Posted by Immortan Jonesy
 - Apr 22, 2020, 02:40:17 AM
I bet Riddles love Robot fetishism  8)

^ but aye! David may be just a psychopathic narcissist  :)
Posted by Huggs
 - Apr 22, 2020, 01:58:37 AM
Rule Britannia

*whip cracks*
Posted by Voodoo Magic
 - Apr 22, 2020, 01:57:06 AM
Posted by Huggs
 - Apr 22, 2020, 01:53:45 AM
I think it counted as self love, given the circumstances.
Posted by Immortan Jonesy
 - Apr 22, 2020, 01:48:09 AM
That was the weirdest gay robotic flirting I've ever seen in a monster movie :laugh:
Posted by Huggs
 - Apr 22, 2020, 01:26:20 AM
Well you're in luck then, because there's more than enough of it.  ;D
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - Apr 22, 2020, 01:25:22 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 21, 2020, 11:27:05 PM
I like Covenant more, right up until David says "Welcome Brother" to Walter.

And the stuff with David and Walter is my absolute favorite element of the film. :D
Posted by Huggs
 - Apr 22, 2020, 01:06:59 AM
Fassbender's acting is top notch, but I believe his character was wasted in Covenant. I preferred him as as the inquisitive trouble maker he was in Prometheus, as opposed to some crying psycho who already knows everything.
Posted by 426Buddy
 - Apr 22, 2020, 12:55:05 AM
Yeah I thought David was great in Covenant.
Posted by Immortan Jonesy
 - Apr 22, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 21, 2020, 11:27:05 PM
A large portion of the first 50-60% of covenant seems better than prometheus to me. But prometheus maintains its...particular "quality" through the 3rd act, where Covenant just takes a full on nosedive.

While I like Fassbender's performance in both movies, I actually agree with that. Prometheus's third act is superior to Covenant's one. But the worst part for me was the second Alien aboard the Covenant. A bad cover of the Alien ending without tension which pales in comparison to the absolutly epic climax and ending of Prometheus.  8)

Back to David, I liked the character's ambiguity in Prometheus. It is bad? a misunderstood sentient doll who just wanted to be a real boy? evil? The mystery makes the character interesting in my opinion.
Posted by Huggs
 - Apr 21, 2020, 11:52:23 PM
He was good in the first one but pretty crappy in covenant.


The character, not the actor.
Posted by RidleyScott99
 - Apr 21, 2020, 11:47:26 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Apr 21, 2020, 11:27:05 PM
A large portion of the first 50-60% of covenant seems better than prometheus to me. But prometheus maintains its...particular "quality" through the 3rd act, where Covenant just takes a full on nosedive.

I like Covenant more, right up until David says "Welcome Brother" to Walter. Aside from the bombing scene, everything after that first meeting is just too drawn out, boring and poorly written/executed for me. I think the film would have benefited immensely from the absence of David, or limiting his screentime to the opening flashback.

David is my favorite characters so I had to disagree 100%.
Posted by Huggs
 - Apr 21, 2020, 11:27:05 PM
A large portion of the first 50-60% of covenant seems better than prometheus to me. But prometheus maintains its...particular "quality" through the 3rd act, where Covenant just takes a full on nosedive.

I like Covenant more, right up until David says "Welcome Brother" to Walter. Aside from the bombing scene, everything after that first meeting is just too drawn out, boring and poorly written/executed for me. I think the film would have benefited immensely from the absence of David, or limiting his screentime to the opening flashback.
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