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Posted by Kimarhi
 - Jan 04, 2021, 05:50:14 AM
I think Anderson did well in researching the history of Alien and knowing about the temples and all that shiz in the early Alien works, he just can't pull his idea over into any semblance of a decent script.

He's like an idea guy who needs to hand off his story ideas to actual screenwriters.

I actually think he meant to do well and wasn't just trying to mail in a cheap cash in he just doesn't have the talent to do anything more than cheezy popcorn flicks. 
Posted by SpreadEagleBeagle
 - Jan 04, 2021, 04:36:28 AM
I actually don't mind AVP as much as I used too. It is campy and have some effects that feel quite out of place, but the premise kind of works. I also appreciate that the Aliens aren't there just to serve as cannon fodder for the humans and punching bags for the Predators.

It easily ranks AVP higher than AVP:R and THE PRED while deferentially ranking below PREDS, A:R, P2 and PROM.

When it comes to the fleshy look of the Aliens I always attributed it to the fact that the way Predators have access to Aliens is through some kind of cloning. The bulky Predator look can be explained by cultural/ethnic or clan-specific differences and preferences.
Posted by StrangeShape
 - Jan 02, 2021, 01:55:39 AM
Actually I never minded Newborn. He was a gross, grotesque genetic mutation so he works as that
Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Dec 29, 2020, 09:39:50 AM
Honestly, just something more like Big Chap without the cowl, perhaps still retaining the white colouration, would have been spot on for me.
Posted by BigDaddyJohn
 - Dec 28, 2020, 10:25:27 AM
All that goo, all over them, in every shots, that's the french touch for ya !  ;D
Posted by Voodoo Magic
 - Dec 27, 2020, 11:24:51 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Dec 27, 2020, 10:34:20 PM
The concept of the Newborn was fine. I just wish that the regular adult creatures looked more like Aliens and less like generic space monsters, and I wish the Newborn had retained more of it's nightmarish qualities from the various concepts. There was one where it would have been the size of a human child, very thin built. That would have been really cool.

Me too!!
Posted by OpenMaw
 - Dec 27, 2020, 10:34:20 PM
After having watched the "Alienate" fanedit it is my own head canon that Ripley becomes the Newborn. (seriously, some of the cleverest editing I have ever seen, makes the movie a lot better.)

The concept of the Newborn was fine. I just wish that the regular adult creatures looked more like Aliens and less like generic space monsters, and I wish the Newborn had retained more of its nightmarish qualities from the various concepts. There was one where it would have been the size of a human child, very thin built. That would have been really cool.
Posted by Kradan
 - Dec 21, 2020, 05:59:43 AM
 ;D
Posted by BigDaddyJohn
 - Dec 21, 2020, 12:49:52 AM
Quote from: Master on Dec 21, 2020, 12:21:58 AM
this innocent little monster

Gediman and DiStephano strongly disagrees  :laugh:
Posted by Master
 - Dec 21, 2020, 12:21:58 AM
I full truly and always will love and defend the Newborn. In fourth film of the franchise we thought we've seen it all and knew it all too well and then BAM! Newborn appears!  Disfigured,  grotesque yet sentient and, idk if it's good phrase,  relatable to. His mimics and eyes made him sad and lots on one hand and attacks of aggression, scary as f**k on the other. For me the live and fate of Newborn is tragedy also for Ripley because finally the only thing like her, related to her in whole universe is this innocent little monster she has to reject for good of corrupted mankind. God damn it, THAT was one hell of an ending!

On the technical side I'm with SiL. Newborn is animatronic marvel and should be acknowledged as such.
Posted by Kradan
 - Dec 20, 2020, 10:37:31 PM
Does somebody wanna hear a joke ?

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 20, 2020, 10:16:40 PM
agree to disagree.

Posted by Voodoo Magic
 - Dec 20, 2020, 10:16:40 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 20, 2020, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 20, 2020, 09:23:04 PM
Sure compared to AvP Requiem it's well lit, but compared to most scenes in ET it's not.
That's very disingenuous. Not being full daylight doesn't mean low light.

(And for the record I dislike the design and the concept. I just love the actual effect.)

SiL. We both know Alien Resurrection. There's no room for, nor am I being "disingenuous" i.e. insincere or false. So please keep it respectful my man. We'll just end it here and agree to disagree.
Posted by SiL
 - Dec 20, 2020, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 20, 2020, 09:23:04 PM
Sure compared to AvP Requiem it's well lit, but compared to most scenes in ET it's not.
That's very disingenuous. Not being full daylight doesn't mean low light.

(And for the record I dislike the design and the concept. I just love the actual effect.)
Posted by Voodoo Magic
 - Dec 20, 2020, 09:25:27 PM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Dec 20, 2020, 09:24:01 PM
The newborn looked like a pale booger.

I'm never going to u̶n̶s̶e̶e̶ unread this comparison now.  :laugh:
Posted by Kimarhi
 - Dec 20, 2020, 09:24:01 PM
The newborn looked like a pale booger. 
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