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Posted by whiterabbit
 - Apr 24, 2018, 02:27:10 AM
Honestly I would have assumed that the aliens would be carrying eggs all over the state by the time the nuke drop... oh right, the predalien was an egg barfer. Well a whole lot of no where that got the species.

I think AVP was set on Earth because it sounded interesting. Plus to make a sequel there wasn't any where else for current day humans to go. All of our space tech dosen't exist yet. Though with the predators canon left behind... that could change quick.
Posted by Huggs
 - Apr 03, 2018, 04:25:19 PM
Quote from: SM on Apr 03, 2018, 05:34:37 AM
The Aliens were either at the hospital or attacking the people at Gilliam Circle and both locations were vapourised.

I hear what you're sayin. I was merely putting forward a fan theory.
Posted by SM
 - Apr 03, 2018, 05:34:37 AM
The Aliens were either at the hospital or attacking the people at Gilliam Circle and both locations were vapourised.
Posted by Huggs
 - Apr 03, 2018, 04:05:59 AM
I'd wager the nuke didn't get them all. Wolf got a lot of the ones in the sewer system, but there was a lot of time between that fight and the end of the movie. Basements, sewers, personal storm shelters, schools and other buildings that may have been equipped to act as shelters during attacks or natural disasters. The only way to guarantee a successful nuclear clean up, is to take that big ol' firecracker and shove it straight in Alien #1's pie hole.

As for why the movies are set on earth, I'd wager it's for both budget and narrative reason. Its easy to feel detached when stuff is happening on spaceships hundreds of years in the future. To see it happening in a modern town is unsettling, not to mention cheaper.
Posted by Scorpio
 - Apr 03, 2018, 02:40:07 AM
Nuke a foreign country = their fault
Nuke your own country = accident

(not including the thousands of test nukes)
Posted by SM
 - Apr 02, 2018, 08:29:34 PM
Nagasaki.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Apr 02, 2018, 04:52:31 PM
It should make sense but certain characters is already thinking it is an infestation (which it is but they shouldn't know that). They should be thinking invasion or an attack, neither which requires the use of a clean up nuke on domestic ground, at least not until there is no friendlies or civvies left. At least that is my opinion anyway. Nukes are mostly deterrents against another nuke armed country, they are rarely used as far as I know, the only one I can think of at the top of my head is the Hiroshima bomb. I'm sure there is more but can't think right now.

I just know its not something to use lightly and not without proper intel on the enemy and the situation.
Posted by OpenMaw
 - Apr 02, 2018, 04:27:32 PM
Well, not knowing what the ALIEN is makes sense, of course. OWLF is fully aware of the Predators.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Apr 02, 2018, 04:23:59 PM
Things escalated fast that's for sure, also as SM pointed out, the nuke response should be last and not first or second if you count the Natguard as the first response. The only way the instanuke response would make sense, is if Col. Stevens knew what they were dealing with or had some idea of it anyway but he says to the screen "What the hell are you?" or something like that, meaning he has no clue.
Posted by OpenMaw
 - Mar 31, 2018, 06:40:02 PM
Things are a bit muddled with the way "Colonel" Stevens fits into things if he's attached to OWLF. Where does his authority come from, etc.

I always interpreted, even though it's not really ever stated in the film, that Stevens was basically operating on his own without anyone above him knowing what was going on. Especially since things went to shit so fast there was no time to get presidential authority or anything of that sort. That's strictly speaking, my B.S.
Posted by SM
 - Mar 19, 2018, 07:30:54 PM
It's not just a hard choice morally...

The main problem in AvP:R is that it's almost a first resort rather than a last resort. 
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Mar 19, 2018, 10:55:46 AM
It is if one believes in the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, the whole "greater good" thing is at play. Nuclear (and sometimes non nuclear) explosions have been fairly effective at ending Xenomorph infestations, the only cost is the potential collateral damage and even then its x population vs potentially the world's population.

Might be hard choice morally but easy choice logically which is probably what any high ranking military officer would think about.
Posted by SM
 - Mar 19, 2018, 03:45:57 AM
They were contained - mostly - by nuclear explosions; one launched by a government on it's own populace (based on some grainy video footage).  Not sure if I call that easy.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Mar 18, 2018, 01:14:11 PM
I think the problem with setting it on earth is that it undermines the threat posed by the Xenomorph and of course, Ripley's actions in later films. I mean we got two AVP films set on earth and both had infestations out of the Predator's control, yet earth was not overrun because the infestations were easily contained. It kind of makes Ripley come off as paranoid and overzealous. Though to be fair, paranoia would be a realistic state of mind after encountering such creatures, mental trauma can be far worse than what caused it in the first place.

Still, I would prefer the avp films to be set on another planet. I mean the first film for instance wasn't that bad, it was not a great film but it had the chance to be one if properly executed. If that film was set on an ice planet (or even a desert one since it would be more in line of how predators hunt ) and had better character development, R-rating and less artistic license on Mayans etc. then it could have been a fairly good movie.

To answer the question, I think budget was a factor, I think I remember it being said that "space was too expensive".. :P
Posted by OpenMaw
 - Jan 25, 2018, 02:28:19 PM
Quote from: Wweyland on Jan 24, 2018, 12:37:23 PM

Didn't he add a new opening in space with a zero-g fight between Predators and Aliens? Doesn't sound like cost reduction.

It's hard to say because the opening sequence featured a dozen Predators going into a cliff-side cave and hunting dozens of aliens in an orgy of death. Neither opening would be cheap.

And honestly i'm not big on having the film opening big like that anyway. That's like, your money shot, hold onto it!
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