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Posted by PsyKore
 - Dec 11, 2017, 02:08:20 AM
Quote from: Alionic on Dec 10, 2017, 07:14:12 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 10, 2017, 09:04:59 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 10, 2017, 06:23:21 AM
Quote from: Alionic on Dec 10, 2017, 01:20:20 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 09, 2017, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 09, 2017, 05:16:00 PM
QuoteThe guy is a shit director, this is objective fact.

Lets see, District 9... 4 Academy Award nominations including best picture and best screenplay for "Blomhack". Made back more than x7 it's production budget at the box office. Yep, shit director and that's an "objective fact".

Blomkamp admitted Elysium and Chappie were bad (publicly saying this is so stupid if you want studios to take you seriously for work). I don't think he has the competence to make an Alien movie. He might if somebody else writes it.

He said Elysium wasn't executed as well as the idea he had in his head.

Which is usually the mark of a perfectionist, not someone who hates all his work.

A perfectionist would have gotten it right the first time.

That's not how it works.
Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Dec 10, 2017, 07:50:58 PM
Quote from: Alionic on Dec 10, 2017, 01:20:20 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 09, 2017, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 09, 2017, 05:16:00 PM
QuoteThe guy is a shit director, this is objective fact.

Lets see, District 9... 4 Academy Award nominations including best picture and best screenplay for "Blomhack". Made back more than x7 it's production budget at the box office. Yep, shit director and that's an "objective fact".

Blomkamp admitted Elysium and Chappie were bad (publicly saying this is so stupid if you want studios to take you seriously for work). I don't think he has the competence to make an Alien movie. He might if somebody else writes it.

Personally, I find someone having the ability to acknowledge his own flaws and want to work on them is reassuring.
Posted by SM
 - Dec 10, 2017, 07:35:18 PM
So when did he say both films were "bad"?
Posted by Alionic
 - Dec 10, 2017, 07:14:12 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Dec 10, 2017, 09:04:59 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 10, 2017, 06:23:21 AM
Quote from: Alionic on Dec 10, 2017, 01:20:20 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 09, 2017, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 09, 2017, 05:16:00 PM
QuoteThe guy is a shit director, this is objective fact.

Lets see, District 9... 4 Academy Award nominations including best picture and best screenplay for "Blomhack". Made back more than x7 it's production budget at the box office. Yep, shit director and that's an "objective fact".

Blomkamp admitted Elysium and Chappie were bad (publicly saying this is so stupid if you want studios to take you seriously for work). I don't think he has the competence to make an Alien movie. He might if somebody else writes it.

He said Elysium wasn't executed as well as the idea he had in his head.

Which is usually the mark of a perfectionist, not someone who hates all his work.

A perfectionist would have gotten it right the first time.
Posted by Scorpio
 - Dec 10, 2017, 09:32:31 AM
Quote from: reecebomb on Dec 10, 2017, 04:01:46 AM
Blomkamp - let him do some AvP films.

He should only do AVP films.
Posted by PsyKore
 - Dec 10, 2017, 09:04:59 AM
Quote from: SM on Dec 10, 2017, 06:23:21 AM
Quote from: Alionic on Dec 10, 2017, 01:20:20 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 09, 2017, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 09, 2017, 05:16:00 PM
QuoteThe guy is a shit director, this is objective fact.

Lets see, District 9... 4 Academy Award nominations including best picture and best screenplay for "Blomhack". Made back more than x7 it's production budget at the box office. Yep, shit director and that's an "objective fact".

Blomkamp admitted Elysium and Chappie were bad (publicly saying this is so stupid if you want studios to take you seriously for work). I don't think he has the competence to make an Alien movie. He might if somebody else writes it.

He said Elysium wasn't executed as well as the idea he had in his head.

Which is usually the mark of a perfectionist, not someone who hates all his work.
Posted by SM
 - Dec 10, 2017, 06:23:21 AM
Quote from: Alionic on Dec 10, 2017, 01:20:20 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 09, 2017, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 09, 2017, 05:16:00 PM
QuoteThe guy is a shit director, this is objective fact.

Lets see, District 9... 4 Academy Award nominations including best picture and best screenplay for "Blomhack". Made back more than x7 it's production budget at the box office. Yep, shit director and that's an "objective fact".

Blomkamp admitted Elysium and Chappie were bad (publicly saying this is so stupid if you want studios to take you seriously for work). I don't think he has the competence to make an Alien movie. He might if somebody else writes it.

He said Elysium wasn't executed as well as the idea he had in his head.  Saying both films were bad sounds like an exaggeration.
Posted by reecebomb
 - Dec 10, 2017, 04:01:46 AM
Blomkamp - let him do some AvP films. If the result turns out to be awesome beyond the visuals, he can try to do that with a proper Alien film and then some. He obviously has talent and I loved District 9 but he needs to prove himself with another strong feature film, i'm not convinced by the Oats Studio shorts.
Posted by Alionic
 - Dec 10, 2017, 01:20:20 AM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 09, 2017, 05:49:27 PM
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 09, 2017, 05:16:00 PM
QuoteThe guy is a shit director, this is objective fact.

Lets see, District 9... 4 Academy Award nominations including best picture and best screenplay for "Blomhack". Made back more than x7 it's production budget at the box office. Yep, shit director and that's an "objective fact".

Blomkamp admitted Elysium and Chappie were bad (publicly saying this is so stupid if you want studios to take you seriously for work). I don't think he has the competence to make an Alien movie. He might if somebody else writes it.
Posted by SiL
 - Dec 10, 2017, 01:19:35 AM
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 10, 2017, 12:24:07 AM
They aren't AUTOMATIC indicators. Obviously, this gets quite subjective, but I think most people with a decent taste, i. e. people who are not absolute plebeians, can agree that most superhero movies suck, even though those movies rack in quite a lot of money and probably awards too.
People with taste and who understand what makes good films -- rather than plebians trying to chest-thump online -- don't think that most super hero movies suck (at least, not these days). Their issue is usually that they're cookie-cutter, generic, risk-free fair that ticks all the boxes of basic filmmaking competence, but are ultimately disposable and offer nothing substantial to viewers after the first viewing.

From there the issue isn't even that this is a bad thing in itself; it's just that it pervades an entire genre, and we're getting inundated with these things. The occasional $200+ superhero beat-em-up would be fine, but we're getting close on two a year from Marvel and one a year from DC, and they're sucking the attention and money from other movies.
Posted by SM
 - Dec 10, 2017, 01:03:58 AM
Sorry, I didn't mean to be passive.
Posted by tleilaxu
 - Dec 10, 2017, 12:24:07 AM
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 09, 2017, 11:51:18 PM
Lol if awards and gross aren't indicators of quality then what are. Obviously you won't like every film that does well but come on.
They aren't AUTOMATIC indicators. Obviously, this gets quite subjective, but I think most people with a decent taste, i. e. people who are not absolute plebeians, can agree that most superhero movies suck, even though those movies rack in quite a lot of money and probably awards too.

Quote from: SM on Dec 09, 2017, 11:57:50 PM
QuoteMaybe you're the one who needs to grow up if you can't address other people's opinions without resorting to "dumbf**k schoolyard" and telling people to "grow up".

Nah, it's not him.
Nice passive aggressive one-liner you got there. I guess it's not a "dumbf**k schoolyard" without a few people ganging up on one poster. I wasn't sure whether to reply but you're practically baiting me.
Posted by SM
 - Dec 09, 2017, 11:57:50 PM
QuoteMaybe you're the one who needs to grow up if you can't address other people's opinions without resorting to "dumbf**k schoolyard" and telling people to "grow up".

Nah, it's not him.
Posted by BishopShouldGo
 - Dec 09, 2017, 11:51:18 PM
Lol if awards and gross aren't indicators of quality then what are. Obviously you won't like every film that does well but come on.
Posted by tleilaxu
 - Dec 09, 2017, 11:22:48 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 09, 2017, 09:35:23 PM
Quite.

Quote from: PierreVW on Dec 09, 2017, 06:25:17 PM
Not shit. But NB is mediocre. Ridley Scott is a way better director than him. It's weird that you and lot of people in this forum don't accept that fact.

I'm not debating about who's the better director.  It's about these incessant dumbf*ck schoolyard style "Batman is better than Superman" style arguments on these boards. And hyperbolic statements like "Neel Bloomhack is teh shitty directer cause he wants to retconz mah alienz 3". Or "Riply Scot is senile cause he doesn't want to make teh kind of alienz movie I wants". Or the "fact" that anyone who doesn't like the direction Scott is taking the franchise is automatically an Aliens fanboy who just wants pulse rifles and Queens.

Grow up for f*ck's sake!
Maybe you're the one who needs to grow up if you can't address other people's opinions without resorting to "dumbf**k schoolyard" and telling people to "grow up".

Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Dec 09, 2017, 05:49:27 PM
Lets see, District 9... 4 Academy Award nominations including best picture and best screenplay for "Blomhack". Made back more than x7 it's production budget at the box office. Yep, shit director and that's an "objective fact".
As if awards and gross are an automatic indicator of quality.

Quote from: Kurai on Dec 09, 2017, 07:06:47 PM
Quote from: PierreVW on Dec 09, 2017, 06:25:17 PM
Not shit. But NB is mediocre. Ridley Scott is a way better director than him. It's weird that you and lot of people in this forum don't accept that fact.

I'd say NB is a mediocre writer, but his visual directing skills are far above average.
Aight I might have to contradict myself here. His visuals are actually pretty good.
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