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Posted by The happy alien
 - Dec 29, 2017, 11:17:53 AM
All the films has only one (two in Covenant) androids, so what about a crew where the falf part of even more are androids? Like 6 androids 3 humans. The humans are like, we can't risk our lives, if the xeno capture us there will be another one and we will absoloutly die. So they start sacrifacing the androids to survive but finally the androids face the humans because they are intelligent and obviously they don't want to die.  So at the half part of the film que have 3 teams: humans, xeno, androids.
Posted by Xenomrph
 - Dec 28, 2017, 01:19:45 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Dec 28, 2017, 12:06:27 AM
Not to mention, as nasty and unsettling as the Shaw surgery was, I think Church's self-surgery was far more horrific and grotesque.
Side-topic, but that was one of the things I didn't like in the latter half of the 'Aliens: Defiance' comic series. Hollis removes an Alien Queen from herself and it feels like it was just a common procedure; with Church (or as you mentioned, Shaw) it felt like there was emotion, tension, and risk behind it. Shit, even Ripley8's largely "clinical" procedure at the start of 'Alien Resurrection' carried more emotional weight behind it.
Posted by SM
 - Dec 28, 2017, 12:16:32 AM
HERE IT COMES!!!




Nah... carry on.  ;D
Posted by OpenMaw
 - Dec 28, 2017, 12:06:27 AM
Every time I say that, SM has to squash my dreams with his big boot of reality...

That would be such a freaky-ass and cool Alien movie though. I love the ideas explored with the Alien behavior in that, too. They must be free or they will ultimately die. That fits the personality of the beast so well.

Not to mention, as nasty and unsettling as the Shaw surgery was, I think Church's self-surgery was far more horrific and grotesque.
Posted by Xenomrph
 - Dec 27, 2017, 04:14:46 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 27, 2017, 11:50:38 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 27, 2017, 05:31:59 AM
Here's my sequel pitch:

Adapt the 'Aliens: Labyrinth' comic series, unaltered.

There is something about the idea of seeing Aliens farming their hosts on the big screen...
The whole Church flashback, if done right, would be f**king crazy and scary as shit. Ridley Scott says the Alien isn't scary anymore? Sounds like he hasn't read Labyrinth... ;)
Posted by Corporal Hicks
 - Dec 27, 2017, 11:50:38 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 27, 2017, 05:31:59 AM
Here's my sequel pitch:

Adapt the 'Aliens: Labyrinth' comic series, unaltered.

There is something about the idea of seeing Aliens farming their hosts on the big screen...
Posted by Xenomrph
 - Dec 27, 2017, 05:31:59 AM
Here's my sequel pitch:

Adapt the 'Aliens: Labyrinth' comic series, unaltered.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Dec 26, 2017, 10:13:04 PM
When he first tries to touch it, it hisses I believe and then it opens its flaps, a cobra will open its hood when its being hostile so such activity from this thing should have ringed alarm bells for anyone with common sense. Around the 1.03:06 mark,
Posted by Gash
 - Dec 26, 2017, 09:43:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 26, 2017, 05:16:58 PM
..we got Milburn, who thinks touching an unknown Alien lifeform is good idea....especially when you got a bunch of Engineer corpses which signals something bad has happened in that cavern, and said Alien lifeform is hissing and behaving aggressively.


Where did this happen? Some edit I've not seen?
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Dec 26, 2017, 05:16:58 PM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Dec 26, 2017, 07:31:56 AM
Indeed, though at least it's made pretty apparent by that point in the film (When that factoid is revealed) that the character in question is sorta cocky and arrogant and thought it would be sure-fire. So it was at least consistent stupidity on their part.

I'd love to see a film in that vein, though. An alien in an alien environment and a team being stalked through it. There's so many potential scenarios that could be played out there.

True, it fit the character which is what is important, characters need to act realistically and true to what they are presented as. That character was cocky and her behavior fits it.
Which is where the Alien prequels screw up, a scientist is supposed to be someone who is logical and got a good head on them, instead we got Milburn, who thinks touching an unknown Alien lifeform is good idea....especially when you got a bunch of Engineer corpses which signals something bad has happened in that cavern, and said Alien lifeform is hissing and behaving aggressively.

Oram is probably the worst for stupidity though, while not a scientist, he did have foreknowledge of the threats and suspicion of David before sticking his head above an egg, I don't know how Ridley can compare him to Kane, when its not even the same. Kane was stupid but at least he didn't have as much knowledge as Oram.

I too would like to see a film in that vein, good characters and at least common sense behavior is a must. They need to avoid using terrible horror/slasher tropes.
Posted by Scorpio
 - Dec 26, 2017, 08:03:44 AM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Dec 25, 2017, 07:11:16 PM
I suppose, the Descent was good horror film but that film also required some stupidity.
Spoiler
Juno picked a cave that hasn't been surveryed, at least by anyone who survived the cave.
[close]

Somebody in other thread compared Milburn to Steve Irwin, well read up on John Jones who died exploring Nutty Putty Cave.
Posted by OpenMaw
 - Dec 26, 2017, 07:31:56 AM
Indeed, though at least it's made pretty apparent by that point in the film (When that factoid is revealed) that the character in question is sorta cocky and arrogant and thought it would be sure-fire. So it was at least consistent stupidity on their part.

I'd love to see a film in that vein, though. An alien in an alien environment and a team being stalked through it. There's so many potential scenarios that could be played out there.
Posted by The Cruentus
 - Dec 25, 2017, 07:11:16 PM
I suppose, the Descent was good horror film but that film also required some stupidity.
Spoiler
Juno picked a cave that hasn't been surveryed, at least by anyone who survived the cave.
[close]
Posted by OpenMaw
 - Dec 25, 2017, 06:28:55 PM
So you want something more along the lines of The Descent?

Posted by The Cruentus
 - Dec 25, 2017, 01:36:10 PM
Alien: Resurrectiion, Prometheus and Alien: Covenant veered too far from Alien in my opinion, they were more supernatural than sci fi and too over the top. Not to mention the scientists in those films were supremely stupid. While I enjoyed Covenant, it was too heavy in slasher tropes and requied supreme stupidity of the crew to progress the plot.

I would take franchise back to its roots, a straight horror/sci fi independant from the prequels with no focus on human or alien origins and the other big questions. The focus will be on human characters and proper development and of course, the Alien. The human characters will behave realistically in the given situation they are in....unlike certain characters from the other films  :P Suspense, terror and claustrophobia will be the feelings it will bring back. However, it will need to have some originality to prevent it from being a rehash of Alien, but without becoming an emulation of Aliens.
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